Re: [lace] Ghost pillow, voodoo pillow, pins

[b...@historichousehunter.com]

I make a good amount of Binche, and I originally used a "voodoo board". Now I 
prefer circling the pinhole marks on the diagram with a small pencil circle, 
and sometimes I lightly draw a swirly circle or an asterisk at a special 
stitch, like the next stitch to-do when I'm putting it all away (instead of a 
sticky arrow), so when I take it out agai, I know where to start. 

This way if I have to un-lace because of a mistake, I just erase the light 
pencil marks, and there isn't anything permanent on the diagram like actual pin 
holes. When I used the pins and voodoo board, the pinholes would confuse me if 
the pins fell out of the board, etc. 

Maybe someone will find this helpful--

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow, voodoo pillow, pins

[Bev Walker]

Totally yes, can always make another diagram.
...and arrows! Vive la difference! I prefer them for Binche, as it takes me
as long to fumble around with pins and a board as it does to do same at the
lace pillow. For me the arrows are faster! I make a copy on heavy card-type
computer paper of the diagram, prop it anywhere convenient, use different
colour arrows, one for each point I need to keep track of - how it is with
Binche, lots going on in all directions. Sometimes I jot a note on the
arrow. Just in case the arrow flies off when away from my lace place, I put
the arrows copy inside a sheet protector. Even if it doesn't take long
to find place on the diagram vs. work in progress.
Great to have choices and to be able to do whatever it takes to enjoy
making the lace!


On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Anita Hansen 
wrote:

> In my initial Binche class it was suggested to use the sticky arrows.
> Hated them! It is so much easier to pull a pin out of the foam and quickly
> move it than it is to get an arrow off of paper and repositioned.



-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Ghost Pillow

[Noelene van Iperen]

I started lacemaking in 1969 although I have only mainly done very simple
patterns over the years as I worked fulltime but I love the Arachne emails and
I find the Ghost Pillow correspondence totally fascinating - you are never too
old to learn something new. Noelene

> On 14 September 2017 at 23:59 Ilske Thomsen 
wrote:
>
>
> I agree with Lyn
> > Using a ghost pillow does slow you down,
> I do it in another way. I work along as usual but when I had to stop why
ever I put one or more, it depends, glass head pins on the point I stop on the
working scheme. So it’s easier for me to find later where I was. And I lay
the last bobbins together but away from the flock.
>
> Ilske
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Re: [lace] Ghost Pillow

[Ilske Thomsen]

I agree with Lyn
> Using a ghost pillow does slow you down,
I do it in another way. I work along as usual but when I had to stop why ever I 
put one or more, it depends,  glass head pins on the point I stop on the 
working scheme. So it’s easier for me to find later where I was. And I lay the 
last bobbins together but away from the flock.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Tregellas Family]

Hi,

Here in Adelaide, South Australia we call these boards our 'voodoo' 
boards  -  when the going gets tough, stick in a pin. :-)


Cheers,
Shirley T.  -  winter is still raging here and won't let Spring come 
visit us just yet.  :-(
Our thoughts and prayers are with those suffering the effects from 
'Irma' and 'Harvey'




On 14-Sep-17 2:14 AM, J-D Hammett wrote:

Hi Lyn and fellow Arachnids,

Thank you very much for sharing, Lyn. There are some really useful ideas here.
I have used an “idiot’s board”


Joepie in a wet East Sussex.




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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Adele Shaak]

I call mine a voodoo board, too!

The first time I used one, I was doing what I now think was a fairly simple
Old Flanders pattern. I couldn’t follow the pattern just by looking at it.
In fact, even once I had the board I still had problems, because I was so
confused that I would get lost during the second or so that it took to move my
gaze from the voodoo board to the lace!

Happily it does get easier with practice, and now I don’t need the voodoo
board nearly so often.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:04 PM, N.A. Neff  wrote:
>
> I agree with Holly Van Sciver that the ultimate goal is to be able to look
> at the lace and see what to do next. I'm getting better at doing that with
> Bucks but I find that old-style Binche/Val/Mechlin is still really
> difficult to do without such a pillow. However, the main thing I wanted to
> add is that I like calling it a voodoo board--you stick pins in it, huh?
> get it? oh well, _I_ think it's funny...

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[lynrbailey]

Nancy, I agree that it is always good to work without a crutch, and some
laces simply don't need such a device, but when one is stretching one's
ability, sometimes to the limit, a voodoo pillow might also add magic to
the effort.  Some Val, certainly, I don't know about Mechlin, but Binche,
with its quirky changes is a definite.  If one were making it as a job,
with repeats more than the 4 found in a handkerchief edging, eventually
there would be no need for a voodoo pillow, but since we're not doing
this to make money, I'll take the crutch.  And sometimes, if the diagram
doesn't work, just doing the pricking can be the answer.  But for that
one must be acquainted with all the unwritten rules about how this lace
is made.  lrb

  Nancy wrote:
  I agree with Holly Van Sciver that the ultimate goal is to be able to
  look at the lace and see what to do next. I'm getting better at doing
  that with Bucks but I find that old-style Binche/Val/Mechlin is still
  really difficult to do without such a pillow. However, the main thing
  I wanted to add is that I like calling it a voodoo board--you stick
  pins in it, huh? get it? oh well, _I_ think it's funny...

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Kathleen Harris]

Hi Joepie,  I have used this method on both Flanders and Binche, which often 
have such excellent enlarged working diagrams. I imagine it could be used for 
other laces which have detailed diagrams, which could perhaps be enlarged if 
necessary. It certainly helps a great deal!

Kathleen
In an unseasonably cold Berkshire, UK

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> On 13 Sep 2017, at 17:44, J-D Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lyn and fellow Arachnids,
> 
> Thank you very much for sharing, Lyn. There are some really useful ideas here.
> I have used an “idiot’s board” before (a piece of polystyrene or soft board
> with the diagram/enlarged pricking on it to put pins in as you progress) if a
> lace had an extremely difficult section, but put it away once I‘d conquered
> the problem area. I will probably use it more now.
> 
> Happy lace making,
> 
> Joepie in a wet East Sussex.
> 
> 
> From: Lyn Bailey
> Sent: 13 September 2017 16:30
> To: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: [lace] Ghost pillow
> 
> I don’t know all the names a ghost pillow is called, but it is a very useful
> device, used especially in more complicated laces where repeats don’t really
> happen.  You have your pricking on your pillow.  Then usually you have a
> diagram or at least another, enlarged pricking on a piece of cork, or other
> board which will take pins.
> <.
> ..>In other cases, either with or
> without a ghost
> pillow, I put 2 pins on either side of the pair that needs to be worked next
> when I think that might not be readily apparent.
> 
> Lyn in Lancaster,
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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Jocelyn Froese]

Hi Nancy, and everyone. 
Things have slowed down at work, a nice break to look at Arachne mail. That is 
interesting about the pillow. I still can't stick pins in my hedgehog. One try 
was all I managed.

Jocelyn in central Canada where the sky is dark with smoke from northern fires. 
Such a stressful time for so many people. 
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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Susan Vossier]

Thanks Lyn.  I also use a spare bit of polystyrene, which will now be
elevated to the status of ghost pillow or voodoo pillow!

But I like your idea of using different pins for different things, and will
definitely incorporate that idea!

Sue from Montelimar, France, where autumn has definitely taken over from
summer

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[N.A. Neff]

I agree with Holly Van Sciver that the ultimate goal is to be able to look
at the lace and see what to do next. I'm getting better at doing that with
Bucks but I find that old-style Binche/Val/Mechlin is still really
difficult to do without such a pillow. However, the main thing I wanted to
add is that I like calling it a voodoo board--you stick pins in it, huh?
get it? oh well, _I_ think it's funny...

Nancy
normally from Connecticut USA, but wandering somewhere in Italy right now,
marveling at Etruscans

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Lyn Bailey 
wrote:

> I don’t know all the names a ghost pillow is called, but it is a very
> useful
> device, used especially in more complicated laces where repeats don’t
> really
> happen...

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Re: [lace] Ghost pillow

[Sue Harvey]

After my classes finished just as I was getting to grip with Bucks Point I 
didn't want to give it up, so I bought a polystyrene block and put an exact 
copy pricking on it as I worked it I put the pins in the corresponding  place I 
learnt a great deal doing it that way as I progressed I slowly stretched it to 
every row then after a while I was confident enough to do without.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK 

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RE: [lace] Ghost pillow

[J-D Hammett]

Hi Lyn and fellow Arachnids,

Thank you very much for sharing, Lyn. There are some really useful ideas here.
I have used an “idiot’s board” before (a piece of polystyrene or soft board
with the diagram/enlarged pricking on it to put pins in as you progress) if a
lace had an extremely difficult section, but put it away once I‘d conquered
the problem area. I will probably use it more now.

Happy lace making,

Joepie in a wet East Sussex.


From: Lyn Bailey
Sent: 13 September 2017 16:30
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] Ghost pillow

I don’t know all the names a ghost pillow is called, but it is a very useful
device, used especially in more complicated laces where repeats don’t really
happen.  You have your pricking on your pillow.  Then usually you have a
diagram or at least another, enlarged pricking on a piece of cork, or other
board which will take pins.
<.
..>In other cases, either with or
without a ghost
pillow, I put 2 pins on either side of the pair that needs to be worked next
when I think that might not be readily apparent.

Lyn in Lancaster,

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