Lazarus and Eclipse are compared as two IDEs, and why the most bloated
one seem to be the most successful too.
In my view, this is due to a lack of marketing effort from the
freepascal and lazarus project, and the old school image associated
with Pascal in general. This is surely not helped by
Refer to my other post. In my view the whole marketing of the project
is to be overhauled to make the technology (free pascal and lazarus)
more attractive to potential new users.
Some suggestions include:
* have a single entry point for free pascal and lazarus
* the look and feel of the free
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:09:37AM +0200, Marc Weustink wrote:
Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:20:05 +0200
You create the two forms with Owner Self (=MainForm).
This is not allowed. The components of a form must have unique names or
none.
Create with Owner 'Application'.
Hi,
this week-end, I have been browsing at my local book store:
-- hundreds of book about Java, php, html, C++, etc... Many many more
books than actual programers!
-- five books about eclipse.
-- one or two old books about Delphi,
-- NO books about lazarus.
I do not
| While I agree with most your statements, I do think you unnecessarily
| limit yourself, because:
|
| Applications *can* be based around TForm in Lazarus (or Delphi). We have a
3-tier
application with
| 600+ forms, all of them descendents from a self-written TCustomForm
descendent. And
luckily
L505 wrote:
Application repository
---
We need a Pascal repository for all the applications written in Pascal. We have
a
Contributed Unit repository, but not a program repository.
The repository needs to be self
serve, just like PHP contributed notes are, and just like
| While I agree with most your statements, I do think you unnecessarily
| limit yourself, because:
|
| Applications *can* be based around TForm in Lazarus (or Delphi). We
have a 3-tier
application with
| 600+ forms, all of them descendents from a self-written TCustomForm
descendent. And
luckily
|
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/Lazarus_Projects#Seksi_Comm
ander
Vincent.
Ahhh thanks - will bookmark it and add some incoming links to it.
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I have known fpc for quite long time now,
but I just found lazarus about a month ago
.. and I wonder why can something this big
can perfectly hidden from me (us) for all
this time.
Another vision, maybe developing components for game
development on lazarus would be a big step, yes I
There are a number of game libraries that work on FreePascal - presumably they
will work in Lazarus as well.
JEDI-SDL is fully compatible with FreePascal (Including the opengl bindings
through SDL)
as far as I know both GLScene and GLXtreem have been proven to work with
FreePascal.
For more
Yoppy Sundawa wrote:
Since, fpc is platform independent, maybe OpenGL will be
a good start, I am sure it worth to try ...
.: ysundawa :.
I don't know OpenGL, but maybe this page is interesting to you:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/GLScene
Vincent
Here are some thoughts of mine.
Marketing
-
Let's look at Python - it's not exactly marketed. Well, google founders just
happened to
fall for the language a bit in college/university while they were getting
their feet
wet. They could have fallen for PHP or ruby, and that
I would like to add a thing on how Lazarus could be more promoted throughout
the pascal community. This is something I have posed some time ago
already, but unfortunately nobody noticed.
Although the lazarus ccr site is there for good purposes, I have never
understood why components are placed on
Bram Kuijvenhoven wrote:
Uwe Grauer wrote:
There was no reply for my question. So i will ask again.
If i run my Database Application stand alone, it works OK.
If running under lazarus, it is freezing (Program doesn't respond any
more)
What could be the reason?
My first thought: Does
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Bram Kuijvenhoven wrote:
Uwe Grauer wrote:
There was no reply for my question. So i will ask again.
If i run my Database Application stand alone, it works OK.
If running under lazarus, it is freezing (Program doesn't respond any
more)
What could be the reason?
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Standalone my program runs ok, under gdb it crashes.
My program runs fine when run from gdb. So it seems your programs crashes for
another reason than the failure of the mysqltest program.
BTW what command line options does Lazarus pass to gdb?
Perhaps you can also try
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Would it help finding a solution of my debugging problem if i post some
code?
That can help, but please first reduce as much as possible the amount of code
in which the problem still occurs. Also note that we don't have your database
running...
Bram
Bram Kuijvenhoven wrote:
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Standalone my program runs ok, under gdb it crashes.
My program runs fine when run from gdb. So it seems your programs
crashes for another reason than the failure of the mysqltest program.
Yes, i'm using Firebird. It crashes when running under
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:58:47 -0300, Luiz Americo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I opened Fedora's native Eclipse I noticed my laptop became slow
and unresponsive, and the CPU usage skyrocketed to 100%. Eclipse took a
Funny, my group of eight PHP programmers have been using EclipsePHP
for a few
I think all these are good ideas. And the things Michael told are true
here too:
Marketing - Yes. But:
- by YOU.
- In a long-term engagement. Otherwise it is of no use.
Needless to say, the 'core teams' will assist in any effort in this
direction.
OK, nice to see that these
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Yes, i'm using Firebird. It crashes when running under gdb.
Even in a small Firebird app? I don't have a Firebird db running at the time,
nor do I have Lazarus compiled with the sqldblaz package. So it would take some
effort to test your program. I hope you can find the
Please don't take it personaly but I think you people should stop
talking and start working. Make that roadmap yourself, post it on the
mailing list, don't talk about it.
Ales
OK, nice to see that these initiatives are supported by the core team. But
the problem I have is that these items
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Bram Kuijvenhoven wrote:
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Yes, i'm using Firebird. It crashes when running under gdb.
Even in a small Firebird app? I don't have a Firebird db running at
the time, nor do I have Lazarus compiled with the sqldblaz package. So
it would take some effort
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Maybe this helps?
Here is my debug window:
(from Lazarus, I assume?)
-gdb-set env ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users
^done
It seems your Lazarus version does set Environmental variables correctly?
-data-evaluate-expression FPC_THREADVAR_RELOCATE_PROC
I was also going to encourage the people who find this important to
make a project of it. Crate a wiki/web page, post the ideas, a road
map with milestones, etc. Then go with the action. Managed as a side
project will bring more results than only posting in the mailling
list.
Look at the mozilla
Hi!
Sorry for send this email to the list, but I have very interest in puttting a
mirror here in venezuela.
I ask for what permisitions are needed for this?
I am interested in putting a mirror here in venezuela, that needed permissions
to do it?
I interested in to found a Venezuelan
Darius Blaszijk wrote:
I would like to add a thing on how Lazarus could be more promoted throughout
the pascal community. This is something I have posed some time ago
already, but unfortunately nobody noticed.
Although the lazarus ccr site is there for good purposes, I have never
understood why
Micha Nelissen wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:26:09 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been following the talk about Lazarus' visibility, and marketing.
Me too, of course.
There is a VERY important fact you must be aware of:
The number of Free Pascal
I had an e-mail from DSP once stating he would be happy to put up a
Lazarus category, but it would take a few weeks - he never did it and
didn't return my follow-up e-mail.
And that was when??? Perhaps the admin was very busy with some other stuff.
Would you mind contacting him again??
I
Please don't take it personaly
Not at all
but I think you people should stop
talking and start working. Make that roadmap yourself, post it on the
mailing list, don't talk about it.
I agree, but don't you believe that there should be some coordination / team
work on this?? Or should we all
I have (finally) ported my YahtzeeTrainer software to Lazarus/FreePascal
and made it available as open source:
http://svsoc1.win.tue.nl/~wstomv/misc/yahtzee/links.html#trainer
I would appreciate some feedback from people who use the Linux or
Windows platform. I have only compiled it
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Tony Maro wrote:
Micha Nelissen wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:26:09 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been following the talk about Lazarus' visibility, and marketing.
Me too, of course.
There is a
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Darius Blaszijk wrote:
Please don't take it personaly
Not at all
but I think you people should stop
talking and start working. Make that roadmap yourself, post it on the
mailing list, don't talk about it.
I agree, but don't you believe that there should be
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
There is a VERY important fact you must be aware of:
The number of Free Pascal and Lazarus developers is VERY SMALL.
What is more, this is a HOBBY, not their source of income.
(Although probably some of us would like it to be so.)
Speak for yourself!
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Tony Maro wrote:
And Borland should not try to fight us; We're a partner: we help in
keeping Object Pascal alive; Something they should consider carefully...
True, but my point being that some companies make strange decisions when their
backs are against the
I've been following the SP war since it started and learned a few facts
which are wrongly understood. FYI software patents in europe are NOT
abolished, but nether are they enforced today. The big victory we won
not so long ago was basicly just a defencive victory, they didn't get
forward in
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:35:24 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Tony Maro wrote:
Micha Nelissen wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:26:09 +0200 (CEST)
Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been following the talk
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Ales Katona wrote:
I've been following the SP war since it started and learned a few facts which
are wrongly understood. FYI software patents in europe are NOT abolished, but
nether are they enforced today. The big victory we won not so long ago was
basicly just a
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
While you are thinking about it, can you give an opinion on how to fix
lazarus bug 902: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=902
Yes, it is the same.
I would expect, that xmlwriter should raise an exception.
I have a small suggestion, or better,
Thanks, when I says mirror I says other site with identical information.
Excelent, so I can start this, I want Build a Free Pascal Venezuelan Community,
and lazarus ;-)
of course all in spanish, for this project I need translators, but no problem,
the people coming.
thanks for says yes!
best
I'm just using the default settings on a TListBox that I'm custom
drawing the text into...
On most computers it looks wonderful. I find that on some computers (on
Win32) the font is 3x normal size and doesn't fit quite right.
So how does a TListBox (or any other control for that matter)
Tony Maro wrote:
I'm just using the default settings on a TListBox that I'm custom
drawing the text into...
On most computers it looks wonderful. I find that on some computers
(on Win32) the font is 3x normal size and doesn't fit quite right.
So how does a TListBox (or any other control
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:04:35 +0200
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
While you are thinking about it, can you give an opinion on how to fix
lazarus bug 902:
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=902
Yes, it is the same.
I would
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:55:34 -0400
Tony Maro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony Maro wrote:
I'm just using the default settings on a TListBox that I'm custom
drawing the text into...
On most computers it looks wonderful. I find that on some computers
(on Win32) the font is 3x normal
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
Just one question: Why should xmlcfg allow, what xml does not?
I mean, I see the gain to allow numbers as identifiers, but OTOH a newbie
could be mislead, that his paths are the xml paths (e.g. '1' vs '_1'). When
the configs are read by other applications the paths
First off, can I just say WOW
I'm a Lazarus developer actively using it to develop both commercial and
Free programs, and just wanted to say a HUGE thankyou to the person who
wrote this :
http://lazarus-ccr.sourceforge.net/index.php?wiki=CrossCompilingForWin32UnderLinux
Amazing - my
We will begin the marketing effort by enhancing the wikipedia page on lazarus =)
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We will begin the marketing effort by enhancing the wikipedia page on lazarus
=)
I meant: I will..
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