On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Steve Allen wrote:
> Finally we begin to see folks stand up and identify their systems
> as having abysmally failed to implement the UTC standard.
>
> http://www.acrelectronics.com/alerts/leap.htm
>
> In particular, see their technical bulletin
> http://www.acrelectronics.com/a
Francois Meyer wrote:
I hardly understand how it is reasonably possible to use a
GPS-derived UTC without taking into account the leap second
information from the GPS navigation message.
Unless the unit gets the UTC-GPS offset from the receiver
just once at hardboot time and then forget abou
On Dec 6, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Steve Allen wrote:Finally we begin to see folks stand up and identify their systems as having abysmally failed to implement the UTC standard. http://www.acrelectronics.com/alerts/leap.htmEven more remarkably, they proudly proclaim: "The quality systems of this fa
Rob Seaman wrote:
I don't know whether to be more embarrassed for the company or for
the international standards process. How many companies claim ISO
9000 conformance? If they don't comprehend the requirements of
international standards pertaining to their products, how likely is
it that they
Rob Seaman wrote on 2005-12-07 13:59 UTC:
> > http://www.acrelectronics.com/alerts/leap.htm
>
> Even more remarkably, they proudly proclaim:
>
> "The quality systems of this facility have been registered by UL to
> the ISO 9000 Series Standards."
>
> So we have a company that manufact
On Wed 2005-12-07T06:59:39 -0700, Rob Seaman hath writ:
> it seems that one of two things must be true. Either the fact that
> the letter is dated December 5, 2005 indicates that they just now got
> around to acting on the July, 2005 announcement of the upcoming leap
> second - or, they acted upon
Upon rereading my message, I'd like to backpedal a bit. I did not
intend to assert any knowledge or comprehension (or even opinion)
about the company's internal operations and decision-making process.
We would likely all be interested, however, if Mr. Bell were to
comment on the delay between the
Steve Allen wrote:
On Wed 2005-12-07T06:59:39 -0700, Rob Seaman hath writ:
it seems that one of two things must be true. Either the fact that
the letter is dated December 5, 2005 indicates that they just now got
around to acting on the July, 2005 announcement of the upcoming leap
second - or,
On Wed 2005-12-07T14:56:35 +, Markus Kuhn hath writ:
> As a general-purpose management standard, ISO 9001 obviously says
> nothing about how you have to handle leap seconds. ISO 9001 does not
> even specify any particular level of quality. All it does is tell you
> how you must document what le
Rob,
ISO9000 certification only means that you have documented your
quality assurance process.
There is no requirement that your documentation pertains to
or results in a quality product.
One of the Danish ISO9K consultants used to bring a ISO9000
certification case along to explain this to comp
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From: "Steve Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] a system that fails spectacularly
> On Wed 2005-12-07T06:59:39 -0700, Rob Seaman hath writ:
> > it seems that one of two things must be true. Either the fa
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Garrett writes:
>And you've gotta love the interpretation of UTC as "Universal Time Code" in
>the Canadian report. If they don't understand what UTC is, or at the very
>least understand that their users are going to be confused by their
>misleading use of the
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: ISO9000 certification only means that you have documented your
: quality assurance process.
:
: There is no requirement that your documentation pertains to
: or results in a quality product.
:
: One of the
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:35:04 +, "David Harper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Rob Seaman wrote:
> > I don't know whether to be more embarrassed for the company or for
> > the international standards process. How many companies claim ISO
> > 9000 conformance? If they don't comprehend the requireme
On Dec 7, 2005, at 2:17 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
Some of us have been trying to drive this point though for some time:
99.99% of all programmers have no idea what a leap-second is.
100.00% of everybody live on a planet whose rotation is slowing by a
couple of milliseconds per day per ce
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