Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
No I am not. Just have a good memory unclouded by bullshit! O'Leary built a team from nothing. We touched glory were truly glorious. He loves the place and has unfinished business with himself and us. He went off the tracks when he was given money to spend that was daft money he got that twerp

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Alec McQueen
On 8 February 2012 18:57, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you mad? Yes ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Ahh That solves it all then. Seriously why not O'Leary? Got anyone better? Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Alec McQueen
Simon Grayson On 8 February 2012 19:59, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: Ahh That solves it all then. Seriously why not O'Leary? Got anyone better? Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Kneale, Andy
My overriding memory of O'Deary is him sitting on the bench, chin in hands, looking out at his team of expensive misfits (being played out of position), and watching it all go wrong, but doing nothing about it - despite a bench full of players. Added to that, his horribly arrogant attitude -

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
LOL Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality Control

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Kitching, Mark
Let's not get too misty eyed about O'Leary. Yes, he did really well but don't forget that he had a lot of money to spend and the youngsters that were coming out of the youth team at the time were a one off compared to the talent we have available now, none of the current youngsters (Howson

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Eric B
My memory of DOL was my feeling when he got the job, I thought: WTF!!! hes never coached anyone and hes X arsenal. This is NOT GOOD. I then remember that the lesson I learnt is: never judge a change until its occurred and been given time. You might get surprised. I rate DOL very high as he gave

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread SinisterPicturesDB
As Dr Mike knows, madness is a matter of opinion as to whoever decides what the norm is! Whoever comes in will have to be able to work under the constrains of master bates, so effectively with one hand tied behind their back with their jaw wired to prevent anything being said that may upset

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Misty eyed - I thought it was widespread knowledge that O'Leary didn't have a clue. He had a good set of youngsters who picked themselves and then when he had to delve into the transfer market he didn't have a clue. He never knew how to use substitutions and in general showed he was really

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Heath
On 8 February 2012 11:18, Dr Michael Benjamin m...@myray.com wrote: No I am not. Yes you are! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread einar
Again - Richard is spot on :) I've never been as frustrated as watching O'Leary cluless when things were not going our way. I honestly don't think we have had a more cluless manager in the post-Wilkinson era. And there are a few bad ones there mind! I always felt that when DO stood up and

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Richard W is spot on x 2. My reasons: - He sanctioned Seth Johnson, Robbie Keane AND Robbie Fowler, neither of which were required at the time. - whether it was the book or his babies = their fault transition it seems players don't take to him. - Plus, in the now near 12 years since he left,

[LU] Grayson's record

2012-02-08 Thread Kitching, Mark
Wikipedia, the all knowing oracle says that Grayson is officially the 2rd most successful Leeds Manager behind Revie on win/draw/loss ratio! Actually he's 3rd as Redfearn has a 100% record. You can prove anything with stats though, O'Leary is 3rd :) Mark K Information in this email including

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Ciarán Diver
Agreed Richard, O'Leary would be a bad move. I still think McCarthy is the man for us but given the Wolves win at the weekend (they were getting tonked until the sending off) we may need to wait until the end of the season for him, so the choices are to stick with Redfearn until the end of the

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread John Lee
My God, are you lot suffering from Altzheimers? The ONLY reason O'Weary was successful is that he inherited a youth team who carried him. He had not a clue tactically, had no idea in the transfer market and had a very inflated view of his own worth. Clearly not many other clubs buy/bought into

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Eric B
No I suffer from seeing things in more than black or white. I think its too simplistic to say DOL was lucky cause he inherited it a good squad and squads run themselves.. If that was the case why would anybody hire a manager? Also, the fact that he had good raw material means nothing. I can go

Re: [LU] O'Leary

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that DOL's cv is on Bates's desk. He's making noises ever since he left that there's unfinished business.   The only good thing I could say about DOL is that he did go with the youngsters whereas someone like George Graham might not have done that. Having said

[LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Naef
HA, gotta laugh at everyone claiming DOL was Lucky and clueless, doubt a single one of you has ever managed to get toilet trained let alone managed a football team ;) how could someone who was merely lucky and had no clue, last 4 years as manager, 50% win ratio, champs league SF etc etc. He

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Tim Leslie
He inherited a solid platform from GG at the back, his ONE stroke of genius (and luck, they don't come along in their numbers very often) was to give the youngsters a chance and had a great plan, attack attack attack. Use your youthful, carefree attitudes to frighten other teams and have a go,

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Brilliant. Same old folk that haven't got a clue.   Where's Humphries.  Surely he must be a DOL fan. From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 12:38 Subject: [LU] managers HA, gotta laugh at everyone claiming DOL was Lucky and

[LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Andy Clayton
*Leeds United chairman Ken Bates says the club are in no rush to appoint a new manager and caretaker boss Neil Redfearn will be in charge for the next three games. * Bates says Redfearn since taking over from Simon Grayson last week has impressed him and he will be given his opportunity to show

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Eric B
Is that really ALL you can do? state that others that have different views on things than you are clueless? Isnt it so that those who start debating others attending the debate rather than the subject at matter have lost the debate? Stick to discussing the subject. Or if you feel you ve got

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Clueless as always.   When did Bates come into the argument. It was all about DOL as a manager and he just wasn't up to it. From: Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk To: 'Richard Walker' richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Richard Naef' rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread John Boocock IFA
On 08/02/2012 13:56, Andy Clayton wrote: *Leeds United chairman Ken Bates says the club are in no rush to appoint a new manager and caretaker boss Neil Redfearn will be in charge for the next three games. * Excellent, and with the money he's saving he can build some more hotels or whatever on

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Yep pretty much.   and by the way ... you are clueless. From: Eric B barl...@gmail.com To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 13:56 Subject: Re: [LU] managers Is

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Bates is a complete joke.     and anyone who can't see it is clueless :) From: John Boocock IFA john.booc...@internetfootball.org.uk To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 14:05 Subject: Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then On 08/02/2012 13:56, Andy Clayton wrote: *Leeds

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Jeremy Adams
Anyone who thought Bates wasn't going to give Redfearn a stab at the job definitely is clueless. One thing does seem to come through is he appears to be popular with the players, remains to be seen if he can manage. He's got three winnable games with Brighton being the hardest. Date: Wed, 8

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Given the unrest in the dressing room and the players rallying around Redfearn MSs decision for three games is wise. ( I hated saying that). Let's see. Gardiola came through the ranks. Michael Sent from my iPhone. Dr Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 8 Feb 2012, at 16:57, Eric

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Mark Smith
Redfern favourite now http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/leeds-specials/next-pe rmanent-manager -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:53 AM To:

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
can't argue with that - very predicatable From: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com To: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk; john.booc...@internetfootball.org.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 14:52 Subject: RE: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then Anyone who thought Bates

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
Eric don't do that mate - just think all those beautiful match reports slagging off Becchio From: Eric B barl...@gmail.com To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012,

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Nicholas Armit
Certainly not a clueless observation. From: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk To: Jeremy Adams jeremyadam...@hotmail.com; john.booc...@internetfootball.org.uk john.booc...@internetfootball.org.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent:

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Exactly! I actively look forward to the descriptions of Becchio every week! (and that's not just because I share the opinion that there are more able donkeys on Blackpool beach than Lucky Lucciano). -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Eric B
its just a small email rule/filter. no biggie. Its ON but I reckon this gmail subject threading might breaks it.. dam it! Eric On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) brendan.mcwilli...@vodafone.com wrote: Exactly! I actively look forward to the descriptions of

[LU] Sorry to break the bad news to Richard Walker

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Naef
Sorry Richard, looks like Ken has snubbed you as well; Speaking on Yorkshire Radio, the Leeds United chairman said the club has been inundated with applications but won't be rushed into making a decision. Applicants ranging from the cheeky to outlandish was how Bates described some of the

Re: [LU] Sorry to break the bad news to Richard Walker

2012-02-08 Thread Richard Walker
fantastic that Rich - are you here all week ? From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 16:59 Subject: [LU] Sorry to break the bad news to Richard Walker Sorry Richard, looks like Ken has snubbed you as well; Speaking on

Re: [LU] Sorry to break the bad news to Richard Walker

2012-02-08 Thread Mark Humphries
I honestly had the same thought when I read that. Aren't I CLUELESS. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Walker Sent: 08 February 2012 17:11 To: Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Sorry to

Re: [LU] LU: Redfearn it is then....

2012-02-08 Thread Jeremy Adams
I honestly think he'll come undone against Brighton. From what I've heard and read he didn't really do anything interesting tactically last Saturday. Same bunch of cloggers with Pugh in at left back and White on the wing, dunno about Pugh at left back but I do prefer White in midfield. No room

Re: [LU] managers

2012-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
Ha ha - classic!! Sent from my iPhone On 8 Feb 2012, at 14:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yep pretty much. and by the way ... you are clueless. From: Eric B barl...@gmail.com To: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Richard Naef

Re: [LU] Sorry to break the bad news to Richard Walker

2012-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
YES! :-) Sent from my iPhone On 8 Feb 2012, at 18:20, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I honestly had the same thought when I read that. Aren't I CLUELESS. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On

[LU] OPen letter ~~ To the MS

2012-02-08 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Sir Could we please trade in our war chest for a casket in Monaco? From one of your many adoring morons. MOTITWD MOT -- In the wrong direction ( for the last seven years) Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT