[LU] Pontus plays!

[Rob Heath]

How much is that Pontus in the window?
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Re: [LU] Curry

[Rob Heath]

I'm about 70% convinced it will be a total disaster..and 30%
excited as hell!

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Matt Anderson 
wrote:

> I can't wait! True global interest, high profile people who love him.
> Actual pedigree!! Famous football man.
>
> It might go tits up and we are relegated but thank f@ck we haven
> appointed McCarthy or Bruce for the same old tedious no plan b shite.
>
> The fact it's taken ages to sort means he has a plan I presume.
>
> Next season will be more interesting than ever if it happens
>
> > On 14 Jun 2018, at 20:21, Richard Naef 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Has he signed yet?! :)
> >
> >
> > Maybe the delay shows that all sides are serious, but want to get things
> right.  It seems that his renumeration package is not an issue, but more
> the contractual terms around what he's in control of.
> >
> > I'm still not 100% convinced he is the "one".  I think his lack of
> English is going to be an issue.  People point to Pottetchino as an example
> of successful non English speakers.  Correct but there are loads more
> examples (Puel a very recent one) when it may have been a factor in their
> failure.  Plus Bielsa is a very different kettle of fish, he old at 62 as
> well.   His last 2 jobs have blown up and that was with better squads in
> the countries top leagues.
> >
> > How are many of our players going to learn a new system in a foreign
> language in a few weeks?  Even if we buy 5 or 6 new first teamers, that's
> even more issues of integration.
> >
> > I've read lots of admiring articles about his tactic's but hey all also
> mention a very fiery temperament and I'm not sure that is what's needed.
> >
> > Is there anyone 100% convinced of this appointment who can calm me down?
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[LU] Birthday honours

[Rob Heath]

I note that Dalglish got a knighthood.

They are saying it was for services to football and charity work, but you
and I both know it was really for services to Leeds United, ie telling
Radrizzani that LUFC would be a great club to buy.
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Re: [LU] What a difference an Ayling makes / QPR report

[Rob Heath]

Once again Dave...on behalf I'm sure of all expats, I thank you
from the bottom of my heart for your reasoned and entertaining match
reports.

When I was scandalously thrown off this list a few months ago despite being
the totally innocent party, I thought meh, WTF, that list is nought but a
feeble pathetic creature these days, so I didn't bother to try to
resubscribe. But I found after a while that I could not live without your
match reports, so I signed up again.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:10 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> I have got to agree- Ayling made a massive difference and showed just how
> much we missed him. He was very good today and really drove the team on, he
> always wanted the ball and always tried to do something positive with it.
> We also commented on how good he was with the young lad (Edmunson) when he
> came on, we had a corner and as he stood in the box Ayling went right to
> him and patted him on the shoulder and had a word in his ear - real
> captaincy / old hand stuff
> Forshaw also impressed again and brought the best out of Vieira who
> continued his recent return to form - these two at the heart of midfield
> next season could be the solid base we need
> QPR were already on their holidays and made it easy for us today and so it
> is hard to read much into the result or performance - we did go out on a
> bit of a high though so that was good. Like QPR though many fans were there
> in body only. We got to the ground right on kick off (so missed the
> applause and the reason for it) and noticed lots of fans stayed in the
> Fanzone finishing their drinks rather than going to watch the game and
> then, of the 5 of us 3 were in the bar / food area so missed the second goal
> Nothing much happened in the first 20 or so minutes, Matt Smith caused us
> a few problems but did not hit the target, then a great run and cross by
> Pearce led to an almighty goal mouth scramble that led to 2 or 3 players
> failing to score when they perhaps should have done. Then from the corner
> taken by Forshaw, Phillips won the first ball and headed towards goal where
> Roofe was stood with his back to goal and pulled off a brilliant overhead
> kick that gave the keeper no chance - a brilliant finish and his 11 th of
> the season making him our top scorer (not the 20+ that Wood got last year)
> That almost finished it as a contest as they had nothing to offer and we
> took total control without being particualry good. Pearce had a rasping
> shot and we had a few half chances
> Second half started in a bizzare fashion - we should have had a corner but
> the ref gave them the goal kick which the keeper hit straight to Phillips
> who shrugged off the nearest defender and did a clever little turn before
> scuffing his shot into the net 2 -0
> We continued to dominate with little real attempts on goal - Edmundson
> came on and nearly scored but his shot was deflected - cannot believe he is
> only 16 looking at the size of him and he gave it plenty of effort. Alioski
> nearly scored direct from a corner but the keeper tipped it over the bar
> and he had one other shot - a great move and cross found him unmarked in
> the six yard box but his strike was right at the keeper who blocked it
> A very decent sized crowd enjoyed the day in the sun and a decent victory
>
> We did not stay for the post match "lap of appreciation" and the game was
> too little too late really and often had the feel of a pre season friendly
> but it was nice to finish on a bit of a high and to see BPF get his first
> clean sheet
> No idea how many of this lot will still be with us next season - the
> introduction of o'Kane was met with more than a few boos - and no one will
> be that unhappy to see the end of a season that, once again, promised much
> (remember when we were top of the league and Saiz and Alioski looked like
> tearing this Division apart) and delivered nothing
> Some big decisions to be made - starting with do we keep Heck (whose old
> Barnsley side were relegated today)
> I am glad that this season is done with but will, no doubt, be itching to
> get back to ER and LUFC in a few weeks time
> All the best to you all over the closed season
> Dave
>
>   From: David W 
>  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2018, 13:26
>  Subject: [LU] What a difference an Ayling makes
>
> We’re not suddenly world beaters, and QPR are insipid, but Ayling makes a
> massive difference to the team.
>
> Forward drive and urgency which is lacking almost everywhere else.
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[LU] You see?

[Rob Heath]

Radz knew what he was doing! Football Diplomacy works!

>From The (sorry, Richard Walker) Guardian:
Aung San Suu Kyi seeks new relationship with UN over Rohingya crisis

Myanmar leader is allowing UN organisations into country to prepare for
return of refugees
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[LU] The view from the rattan chair

[Rob Heath]

Villa are the most horrible bunch of ridiculous beards and stupid haircuts
I have seen since I last had the misfortune to watch Derby play (although,
disappointingly, WE actually had the worst hairstyle on the pitch!)

The ref was a twatgave everything to Villa and nothing to us.
Only surprise was that he didn't give them a penalty when he had 2 vague
chances to do so.

Sad to see that Snodgrass has turned into a diving, cheating little pillock
who, luckily, can't take a freekick anymore.

Thought Vieira played well.
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[LU] Could be.......

[Rob Heath]

...a long second half, I fear.
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[LU] Amid the doom & gloom......

[Rob Heath]

..I do think that we have been bloody unlucky this season.

I know we've played badly for a lot of the time, but with a bit of luck,
several poor results could have gone the other way, and with better results
would have come more confidence and hence better play.

I have been thinking that we have been hitting the woodwork at crucial
times this year much more than the law of averages would
dictate.and I've just seen that some statto has said that Saiz &
Leslogger have each hit the woodwork 4 times. and they are joint top in the
league. Two players from the same club have hit the post more than any one
player from another club? That is incredible.

Plus, a lot of those incidents were pivotal.

Apparently, Alioski's header on sat wouldn't have counted anyway, b/c the
flag was up, but Saiz's freekickthat would have been 2 extra
points right there. I recall Roofe hitting the bar in the 0-0 with Forest.
2 more points. And leslogger hitting the bar at 1-1 in one of those games
where we collapsed in the last 15 mins, but if we'd gone 2-1 up...?

And then there are the penalties, or rather the lack of them. How many have
we had all season? I think I remember Pablo scoring one or maybe two, and
there was that dreadful one he missed in the last minute of one match, but
apart from that?

Clutching at straws? Maybe.
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[LU] Another precious point!

[Rob Heath]

We're one point closer to arriving at our traditional final position home
of 11-14th.
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Re: [LU] Monaco

[Rob Heath]

Who?

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:06 AM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Being a bit devil's advocate but Farrell did not come out for one cross
> and stayed on his line for every corner. If Wiedwald did that
> Nick
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 12:01:22 PM EDT, Richard Naef <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  Berardi had been sent off and he needed to shore up the Defence.  We had
> plenty of attacking players.
>
> On the plus side Peacock-Farrell looks like a proper keeper and O'Connor
> didn't do anything wrong.
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: 07 April 2018 16:55
> To: {broken-address} Richard Walker  broken.gn.apc.org>
> Cc: leedslist 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Monaco
>
> Fucking disgrace - Hecky playing for a draw in injury time - saiz off
> Anita on - get this cunt out
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 7 Apr 2018, at 15:51, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Gash
> >
> > Philips  gash
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 7 Apr 2018, at 14:45, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Scrap that Lasogga starts instead of Ekuban.
> >>
> >> Debut for young lad at the back ...
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 7 Apr 2018, at 10:30, Matt Anderson  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From companies house
> >>>
> >>> Correspondence address
> >>> B-74 La Reserve, 5 Ave Princess Grace, Monaco, 98000 Mc, FOREIGN
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On 7 Apr 2018, at 09:05, Einar S.  wrote:
> 
>  I´m in Monaco.  Anyone know where I can find Bates?  Sure he needs a
> pal to watch Leeds with today…. If not - any pubs/hotels that might be
> showing?
> 
>  Einar
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Re: [LU] Oh great

[Rob Heath]

It's a massive game this one.The Battle To Not Be Bottom of the
Form Table!

Any player who isn't fired up for a game like this should be ashamed of
theirsen.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 4:46 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> What a great start to the day - look outside and it is trying to snow (as
> the saying goes) then to make it worse I find that there is a huge problem
> on trains between Stalybridge and Huddersfield which has led to some trains
> being cancelled and others very late
> So it is going to be a real hassle getting to ER
> Thankfully it is all worth it to watch a Yorkshire derby and to see a play
> off challenging team
> Whatever I should be able to get there and get there in time for a few
> beers, it is what Saturdays are made for !
> Love it
> Dave
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[LU] This division is a joke

[Rob Heath]

Leeds 0 Wolves 3
Aston Villa 4 Wolves 1
Aston Villa 1 QPR 3

Explain.

Logically, does that mean if we played QPR now we would lose 78-0?
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[LU] Fortress Elland Road?

[Rob Heath]

Next 4 home games: Wendies, Scumderland, Bolton, Bransley.
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[LU] Saiz

[Rob Heath]

Big game for Saiz, tonight, I reckon.

I read on one of those moronic clickbait sites today an article: 5 reasons
why Leeds should sell Saiz in the summer. I started out reading it
scoffingly, but ended up thinking that actually they've got a point.

Obviously, us losing all 6 games of his suspension made him look
indispensable, but is he really that valuable?

As our resident sage RW pointed out quite correctly last week, he is
obviously a pretty repulsive twat personally. He is also extremely
volatile. It would be great tonight if we had a ref who recognised that
every team in this league has figured out that the way to stop him is to do
Mourinho-style take-it-in-turns fouling. But we will probably have another
bonehead who won't even notice. So will Saiz end up with yet another yellow
card received after he himself was fouled..or worse, a red?

Another thing is that I have a feeling the other players all become a bit
jittery (as if they weren't bloody jittery enough already after our recent
results) due to Saiz's intensity and obvious frustration. I was over for
the Forest match, when Saiz was very impressive, but I felt the rest of the
team was slightly intimidated by him. Roofe's chance, set up by Saiz after
a brilliant run, and smacked against the bar when he should have scored,
was a case in point.

TBH, SS was about as rubbish as everybody else up at Boro.

I hope he is brilliant and scores and leads us to victory
tonightbut if he isn't...???!!!
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Re: [LU] 3 nil defeat

[Rob Heath]

Richard WalkerI've been reading your analyses on here for
40 years, so I like to think I've got the measure of your methods.You are
unquestionably right in your judgements of players 99% of the
timeor I should say right-ish. The problem is, everything is
completely black-or-white. You make the point
yourself..midfielders are either as good as Batty, or they're
"shite". You don't seem to notice that we are now playing in the Second
Division. The magnificent and peerless David Batty was playing for teams at
the top of Division One, and for England in the World Cup. If a clone of
David Batty appeared now, is there any chance he would play for us at the
moment? Second Division midfielders are really good footballers, but they
tend to have flaws, such as inconsistency, one-footedness, a lack of
composure at times, or whatever.

You claim to give players 4-5 games before judging themI'm not
sure that's true. If they are young, white and local, you'll give 'em that.
If they are foreign (or worst of all have a slightly exotic name) you'll
give them 1-2 games before deliberately mis-spelling their name, calling
them a Kraut or suchlike, and telling us that they are "shite."

Rick Duniecyour analysis of the Cantona Debacle is superb. I
have been agonising over it for all these years, but I never thought of it
like that before. Thank you.  "*Stories of magic are a right bastard when
it’s your porridge that somebody else is eating - with obvious relish." *
That is brilliant!

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:17 AM, Rick Duniec  wrote:

> From: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> Sent: 03 March 2018 20:37
> To: Richard Walker; Scott1cairns1; {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
> Cc: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] 3 nil defeat
>
> Lasogga - 1. He's not nearly quick enough or fit enough to play in a team
> chasing the game. Yes I believe he knows where the goal is and given
> Chapman like service he will score a shed load in this division but at the
> moment we don't have the luxury
>
> (Above) Exactly what I was thinking and saying, but hadn’t put nearly so
> well --
>
> 1) The decision to remove Green and bring in Wieldwald goes down as one of
> the worst pieces of football management ever witnessed. Up there with
> selling Cantona.
>
> Selling Cantona may have been a good footballing decision (a) for us (b)
> at the time  -Wilko’s philosophy and all that, which had after all won us
> the title.
> Selling him to Man U, though,  was a monumental disaster from our point of
> view.
> We fixed their engine and gave them the state of the art satnav that their
> machine needed to find its way. If we had sold him abroad all of that would
> never have happened. At the same time we would probably have deprived
> football of one of its magical stories.
> Cantona would never have done for Leeds what he did for them unless we
> changed 100%
> from where we were at the time to suit Eric alone.  We were never going to
> do that so it would have been a dog in the manger move.  Let’s face it –
> every single one of us knew that from the first moment that you heard of
> his transfer to Old Trafford. Stories of magic are a right bastard when
> it’s your porridge that somebody else is eating - with obvious relish.
>
> Green was a pillock for demanding a guaranteed first team place. Maybe he
> has been hurt in the past but in football you have to believe that you are
> good enough to win your place week in week out and not by means of simply a
> contract. With a guaranteed place Green might also have turned into a
> disaster. when things are this bad everything else looks like a better
> alternative.
>
> Forgive me. Not in a good place right now but I’m sure things are still
> better than they were a few years ago. We have something like a football
> club again – even when that club is getting it wrong at the moment.
>
>
>
>
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[LU] 50 years!

[Rob Heath]

50 years!
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Re: [LU] Wiedwald

[Rob Heath]

How bad must Bailey-Parsnip be? I thought he was supposed to be the Next
Big Thing.and he's not that young...chuck him in.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 6:18 PM, {broken-address} John Lee <
bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> No argument with that - he has to be out. If he's the best of our 3
> goalies, we need a new player recruiterer! Hmm, that reminds me:-)
>
>   From: Tim Leslie 
>  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>  Sent: Monday, 19 February 2018, 9:07
>  Subject: [LU] Wiedwald
>
> Sunday, August 6th 2017. Macron Stadium @ 30 minutes in to the game, I
> turned to my son and said "That keeper looks dodgy" ... About 9 minutes
> later he confirmed my fears on this by hopelessly flapping at a cross
> and gifting a poor team a route back in to a game we were dominating.
>
> Now, two managers later, COUNTLESS f' ups of a quite monumental scale
> ... some of which were Non League (And lower non league at that ... QPR
> anyone?) in their incompetency and we're still here, wondering why he's
> in goal. January has gone, we've a big pudding on the bench and an
> allegedly "promising" yoof with a posh name behind him. So what on earth
> can we do now? He simply CANNOT stay in goals if we expect to do
> anything other than bumble along to the end of the season and finish
> 12th. Since 6th August 2017 he has been a, if not THE, fundamental
> reason we ship goals, cheap goals, silly goals, poor goals in games we
> could be winning. I'm sorry, but yesterday's complete f' up HAS to be
> the last straw surely?
>
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Re: [LU] Line-up

[Rob Heath]

If we were playing for a point, then Plan A didn't last long.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:32 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Very uninspiring to me looks like playing gor a point:
>
> Leeds: Wiedwald, De Bock, Jansson, Pennington, Dallas, Forshaw, O'Kane,
> Phillips, Alioski, Roofe, Lasogga. Subs: Lonergan, Anita, Hernandez,
> Cibicki, Sacko, Vieira, Ekuban.
>
> Read more at: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-
> united/sheffield-united-v-leeds-united-billy-sharp-mark-
> duffy-and-jamal-blackman-all-return-for-blades-for-big-
> yorkshire-derby-1-9011164
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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[LU] Meet the new boss...........same as the old boss?

[Rob Heath]

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Rob Heath]

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> You will not have the last word.
> You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I
> was flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may
> be. The age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish
> Betty would permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile
> posts. But I will not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for
> you to be expelled; I believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However,
> when your distinct disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner
> concerning me, I hit out.
> I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how
> absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither
> remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more
> than creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
> You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody
> immature and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But
> when it comes to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and
> not going away—unless you stop.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
> *Sent:* 26 October 2017 02:16
> *To:* Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> *Cc:* Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
>
>
> Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...
>
>
>
> He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not
> exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap
> and a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.
>
>
>
> It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am
> just a layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone
> like, oh, I don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?
>
>
>
> What? Oh.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> wrote:
>
> Who me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> > On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> >
> > You amazingly weird twat.
> > Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in
> them. Do you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as
> you read them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag
> over your face too.
> > I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy
> stuff. However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up
> there.
> > BTW, although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit
> interested in our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the
> height of your orgasm?
> > Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous
> insults.
> >
> > Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist.
> >
> > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> > PHONE: +972-505-317772
> > BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> > AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> > myRay: Online CBT
> >
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> > |Anderson
> > |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> > |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> > |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
> > |
> > |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel
> > |
> > |Sent from my iPhone
> > |
> > |> On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:57, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> > |>
> > |> Boys & Girls..
> > |>
> > |> A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my first
> > |> novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC
> > |> connection in there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be
> > |> enough to persuade you all to buy it.
> > |>
> > |> However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive a
> > |> grand total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating etc
> > |> the novel is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the
> bloody thing!
> > |>
> > |> Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought
> > |> my novel.
> > |>
> > |> H..just as I thought

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Rob Heath]

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap
and a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just
a layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like,
oh, I don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
wrote:

> Who me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> >
> > You amazingly weird twat.
> > Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in
> them. Do you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as
> you read them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag
> over your face too.
> > I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy
> stuff. However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up
> there.
> > BTW, although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit
> interested in our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the
> height of your orgasm?
> > Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous
> insults.
> >
> > Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist.
> >
> > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> > PHONE: +972-505-317772
> > BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> > AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> > myRay: Online CBT
> >
> > |-Original Message-----
> > |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> > |Anderson
> > |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> > |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> > |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
> > |
> > |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel
> > |
> > |Sent from my iPhone
> > |
> > |> On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:57, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> > |>
> > |> Boys & Girls..
> > |>
> > |> A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my first
> > |> novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC
> > |> connection in there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be
> > |> enough to persuade you all to buy it.
> > |>
> > |> However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive a
> > |> grand total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating etc
> > |> the novel is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the
> bloody thing!
> > |>
> > |> Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought
> > |> my novel.
> > |>
> > |> H..just as I thought.
> > |>
> > |> So I'm going to try again:
> > |>
> > |> It is actually *incredibly *LUish! There's a whole chapter (or part of
> > |> one) concerning the League Cup semifinal away leg against Forest.
> > |> Every single character who had to have their name changed to prevent
> > |> me being sued (ie everyone in the book) has been given the name of a
> Leeds
> > |player!
> > |>
> > |> Plus, it is super-footbally all the way through.
> > |>
> > |> Basically, this book will appeal to anybody who...supports
> > |> LUFC, likes football, is a teacher (esp. an overseas one), is an
> > |> expat, has been to Morocco. How many of those boxes do you tick?
> > |>
> > |> The book as been described by one critic as "James Herriot meets
> Hunter S.
> > |> Thompson." How appealing is that?!
> > |>
> > |> So come on! Buy a copy now.better still, buy 5 and give
> > |> the others as xmas presents to anybody you know who also ticks any or
> > |> all of those boxes.
> > |>
> > |> (Why this desperate plea? Well, I'm working on the next novel, and I
> > |> need good sales to persuade the publisher to give me a decent deal!)
> > |>
> > |> Details: *"A Tangerine Dream" by Rob Heath. *Supposedly available at
> > |> all major bookshops (although I couldn't find a single copy in any
> > |> shop I looked in during the summer) and deffo on Amazon.
> > |>
> > |> Apologies to anybody annoyed by this message cluttering up your inbox.
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[LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Rob Heath]

Boys & Girls..

A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my first
novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC connection in
there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be enough to persuade you
all to buy it.

However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive a
grand total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating etc the
novel is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the bloody thing!

Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought my
novel.

H..just as I thought.

So I'm going to try again:

It is actually *incredibly *LUish! There's a whole chapter (or part of one)
concerning the League Cup semifinal away leg against Forest. Every single
character who had to have their name changed to prevent me being sued (ie
everyone in the book) has been given the name of a Leeds player!

Plus, it is super-footbally all the way through.

Basically, this book will appeal to anybody who...supports LUFC,
likes football, is a teacher (esp. an overseas one), is an expat, has been
to Morocco. How many of those boxes do you tick?

The book as been described by one critic as "James Herriot meets Hunter S.
Thompson." How appealing is that?!

So come on! Buy a copy now.better still, buy 5 and give the
others as xmas presents to anybody you know who also ticks any or all of
those boxes.

(Why this desperate plea? Well, I'm working on the next novel, and I need
good sales to persuade the publisher to give me a decent deal!)

Details: *"A Tangerine Dream" by Rob Heath. *Supposedly available at all
major bookshops (although I couldn't find a single copy in any shop I
looked in during the summer) and deffo on Amazon.

Apologies to anybody annoyed by this message cluttering up your inbox.
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[LU] Team v Leicester

[Rob Heath]

Fullbacks bit of an issue, with Ayling having played every game so far, I
think, Berardi now suspended, and Blowjob lightweight and crap. He could
play Ayling RB/Anita LB...Anita RB/BJ LB...or A. Youngster
RB/Anita LB.

Otherwise, with the massive game v Sheff U very soon, I would expect
Jansson & Shaughnessy CBs, Klitch & maybe Vieira in CM, Hernandez at 10,
Grot up front and Dallas & Roofe wide. Or Cibicki in any of those forward
slots.  Felix the Cat, obvs, will be between the sticks.
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Re: [LU] Another big call

[Rob Heath]

2-0 up.saiz (2)

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:47 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> TC has made another big call (after dropping Felix last time) and has left
> out Pontus . Alioski has also been recalled and so has Viera in a 3 man
> midfield
> Team- Lonergan, Ayling, Pennington, Cooper, Berardi, Phillips, O'Kane,
> Vieira, Saiz, Lasogga, Alioski.Wiedwald, Anita, Jansson, Roofe, Sacko,
> Hernandez, Grot.
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Re: [LU] Reading

[Rob Heath]

Yeah but he was brilliant while he was on loan...that's my point
On 15 Oct 2017 21:07, "Simon McNally" <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:

> O'Brien was dreadful
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 15 Oct 2017, at 13:51, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
>
> (O'Brien.that was the other one I was talking about.)
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't say Jansson was crap but he looks out of sorts.
>> I think a better partner would help
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 15 Oct 2017, at 09:40, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
>>
>> Jansson...a CB who was superb on loan...then signed a permanent
>> deal and became crap..how many is that now?
>>
>> Bamba.Valiukis or something..that lad from
>> Harrogate.??
>> On 15 Oct 2017 16:33, "Simon McNally" <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fair point. I normally stay and clap them regardless of the result but I
>>> was so annoyed with their limp performance yesterday I just walked off too.
>>> There's definitely something up with Jansson though. He doesn't look the
>>> same player as last year. Hopefully it's just because he's having to play
>>> alongside Cooper instead of Bartley. We desperately need another centre
>>> back.
>>> To me the team looks short of leaders - too much whinging at the referee
>>> and not enough getting stuck in and fighting.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On 15 Oct 2017, at 09:09, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Good summary Simon and agree with most of what you have written.
>>> >
>>> > In terms of Jansson being the first down the tunnel after a defeat but
>>> the last off the pitch when we win I don't hold that against him. As a fan
>>> yesterday I was straight out of the stand on the final whistle and the last
>>> thing I want to see is Cooper and Philips dragging themselves around the
>>> four stands clapping the fans and almost asking for an apology. Fuck off !
>>> Get yourself back in that dressing room and have a word with yourself.
>>> >
>>> > Jansson went down the tunnel cos he was pissed off and I don't blame
>>> him for that, afterall he'd just spent the afternoon playing alongside
>>> carcrash Cooper.
>>> >
>>> > On Saturday, 14 October 2017, 22:37:44 BST, Simon McNally <
>>> simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Very disappointed today. We didn't turn up first half at all and gave
>>> away a bad goal.
>>> > I agree with Noel Whelan on radio Leeds - we might feel hard done by
>>> to not get a foul in the build up to their goal but the ball had to travel
>>> a long way to end up in the net. Too many of them switched off, Ayling,
>>> who has been excellent this season, switched off and Barrow ran in behind
>>> him... I knew he'd score as soon as he came on - another twat that was shit
>>> for us comes back and scores.
>>> > I'm worried that we've got a squad with no real leaders - I hate to
>>> see us arguing the toss with the officials when the ball is in play. I
>>> think Hernandez is good, especially at this level, but he's not strong
>>> enough and falls over appealing for a free kick whenever he's challenged.
>>> He needs to grow a pair.
>>> > As Rich has said, Lassogga gets muscled off the ball too easily for
>>> such a big bloke and Grot looks useless.
>>> > A couple of other things that Radio Leeds picked up on that I noticed
>>> too. Jansson (and Hernandez) were quick to get down the tunnel. Jansson is
>>> always fist pumping the crowd when they've won but couldn't wait to get
>>> down the tunnel today. I don't like that and maybe that's why he hasn't
>>> made it big anywhere else - brilliant when things are going well, fucks off
>>> when they're not..
>>> > Also, no players came to speak to the press after the game - they're
>>> happy to do it after a win but again I think that's poor.
>>> > There's talk that there'll be money to spend in January so I've been
>>> thinking which positions need strengthening.
>>> > Assuming he sticks with 4231 (I'd rather we played 442 at home).
>>> >
>>> > GK : a definite yes! Wiedwald looked ok when he didn't have to make
>>> any sa

Re: [LU] Reading

[Rob Heath]

(O'Brien.that was the other one I was talking about.)

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Simon McNally <simon_mcna...@sky.com>
wrote:

> I wouldn't say Jansson was crap but he looks out of sorts.
> I think a better partner would help
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 15 Oct 2017, at 09:40, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
>
> Jansson...a CB who was superb on loan...then signed a permanent
> deal and became crap..how many is that now?
>
> Bamba.Valiukis or something..that lad from Harrogate??
> On 15 Oct 2017 16:33, "Simon McNally" <simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>
>> Fair point. I normally stay and clap them regardless of the result but I
>> was so annoyed with their limp performance yesterday I just walked off too.
>> There's definitely something up with Jansson though. He doesn't look the
>> same player as last year. Hopefully it's just because he's having to play
>> alongside Cooper instead of Bartley. We desperately need another centre
>> back.
>> To me the team looks short of leaders - too much whinging at the referee
>> and not enough getting stuck in and fighting.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 15 Oct 2017, at 09:09, Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Good summary Simon and agree with most of what you have written.
>> >
>> > In terms of Jansson being the first down the tunnel after a defeat but
>> the last off the pitch when we win I don't hold that against him. As a fan
>> yesterday I was straight out of the stand on the final whistle and the last
>> thing I want to see is Cooper and Philips dragging themselves around the
>> four stands clapping the fans and almost asking for an apology. Fuck off !
>> Get yourself back in that dressing room and have a word with yourself.
>> >
>> > Jansson went down the tunnel cos he was pissed off and I don't blame
>> him for that, afterall he'd just spent the afternoon playing alongside
>> carcrash Cooper.
>> >
>> > On Saturday, 14 October 2017, 22:37:44 BST, Simon McNally <
>> simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Very disappointed today. We didn't turn up first half at all and gave
>> away a bad goal.
>> > I agree with Noel Whelan on radio Leeds - we might feel hard done by to
>> not get a foul in the build up to their goal but the ball had to travel a
>> long way to end up in the net. Too many of them switched off, Ayling,  who
>> has been excellent this season, switched off and Barrow ran in behind him..
>> I knew he'd score as soon as he came on - another twat that was shit for us
>> comes back and scores.
>> > I'm worried that we've got a squad with no real leaders - I hate to see
>> us arguing the toss with the officials when the ball is in play. I think
>> Hernandez is good, especially at this level, but he's not strong enough and
>> falls over appealing for a free kick whenever he's challenged. He needs to
>> grow a pair.
>> > As Rich has said, Lassogga gets muscled off the ball too easily for
>> such a big bloke and Grot looks useless.
>> > A couple of other things that Radio Leeds picked up on that I noticed
>> too. Jansson (and Hernandez) were quick to get down the tunnel. Jansson is
>> always fist pumping the crowd when they've won but couldn't wait to get
>> down the tunnel today. I don't like that and maybe that's why he hasn't
>> made it big anywhere else - brilliant when things are going well, fucks off
>> when they're not..
>> > Also, no players came to speak to the press after the game - they're
>> happy to do it after a win but again I think that's poor.
>> > There's talk that there'll be money to spend in January so I've been
>> thinking which positions need strengthening.
>> > Assuming he sticks with 4231 (I'd rather we played 442 at home).
>> >
>> > GK : a definite yes! Wiedwald looked ok when he didn't have to make any
>> saves but has looked shite since. Lonergan played well today but can't be
>> the long term solution.
>> >
>> > RB : happy with Ayling
>> >
>> > LB : a definite yes. Not replaced Taylor. I like Berardi but he's not a
>> left back.
>> >
>> > RCB : Jansson ok but I've not been impressed this season, especially
>> his attitude.
>> >
>> > LCB : definite yes. I saw Cooper has blocked someone on twitter for
>> calling him league one Liam but he's spot on. A few good games doesn't make
>> up for his obvious failings, Card

Re: [LU] Reading

[Rob Heath]

Jansson...a CB who was superb on loan...then signed a permanent
deal and became crap..how many is that now?

Bamba.Valiukis or something..that lad from Harrogate...??
On 15 Oct 2017 16:33, "Simon McNally"  wrote:

> Fair point. I normally stay and clap them regardless of the result but I
> was so annoyed with their limp performance yesterday I just walked off too.
> There's definitely something up with Jansson though. He doesn't look the
> same player as last year. Hopefully it's just because he's having to play
> alongside Cooper instead of Bartley. We desperately need another centre
> back.
> To me the team looks short of leaders - too much whinging at the referee
> and not enough getting stuck in and fighting.
>
> Simon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 15 Oct 2017, at 09:09, Richard Walker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Good summary Simon and agree with most of what you have written.
> >
> > In terms of Jansson being the first down the tunnel after a defeat but
> the last off the pitch when we win I don't hold that against him. As a fan
> yesterday I was straight out of the stand on the final whistle and the last
> thing I want to see is Cooper and Philips dragging themselves around the
> four stands clapping the fans and almost asking for an apology. Fuck off !
> Get yourself back in that dressing room and have a word with yourself.
> >
> > Jansson went down the tunnel cos he was pissed off and I don't blame him
> for that, afterall he'd just spent the afternoon playing alongside carcrash
> Cooper.
> >
> > On Saturday, 14 October 2017, 22:37:44 BST, Simon McNally <
> simon_mcna...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Very disappointed today. We didn't turn up first half at all and gave
> away a bad goal.
> > I agree with Noel Whelan on radio Leeds - we might feel hard done by to
> not get a foul in the build up to their goal but the ball had to travel a
> long way to end up in the net. Too many of them switched off, Ayling,  who
> has been excellent this season, switched off and Barrow ran in behind him.
> I knew he'd score as soon as he came on - another twat that was shit for us
> comes back and scores.
> > I'm worried that we've got a squad with no real leaders - I hate to see
> us arguing the toss with the officials when the ball is in play. I think
> Hernandez is good, especially at this level, but he's not strong enough and
> falls over appealing for a free kick whenever he's challenged. He needs to
> grow a pair.
> > As Rich has said, Lassogga gets muscled off the ball too easily for such
> a big bloke and Grot looks useless.
> > A couple of other things that Radio Leeds picked up on that I noticed
> too. Jansson (and Hernandez) were quick to get down the tunnel. Jansson is
> always fist pumping the crowd when they've won but couldn't wait to get
> down the tunnel today. I don't like that and maybe that's why he hasn't
> made it big anywhere else - brilliant when things are going well, fucks off
> when they're not..
> > Also, no players came to speak to the press after the game - they're
> happy to do it after a win but again I think that's poor.
> > There's talk that there'll be money to spend in January so I've been
> thinking which positions need strengthening.
> > Assuming he sticks with 4231 (I'd rather we played 442 at home).
> >
> > GK : a definite yes! Wiedwald looked ok when he didn't have to make any
> saves but has looked shite since. Lonergan played well today but can't be
> the long term solution.
> >
> > RB : happy with Ayling
> >
> > LB : a definite yes. Not replaced Taylor. I like Berardi but he's not a
> left back.
> >
> > RCB : Jansson ok but I've not been impressed this season, especially his
> attitude.
> >
> > LCB : definite yes. I saw Cooper has blocked someone on twitter for
> calling him league one Liam but he's spot on. A few good games doesn't make
> up for his obvious failings, Cardiff in particular would have me looking to
> get rid. Agree totally with Rich's point - he won the ball but tried to
> bring the ball out instead of putting his foot through it and they nearly
> scored. He's not a player in a promotion team for me.
> >
> > RDM : I'm reasonably happy with O'Kane - he's good on the ball and
> brings it forward. Needs someone with more physicality along side him.
> >
> > LDM : I like Philipps, I like that he's local and came through the ranks
> and looks like he cares but hand on heart, is he a first team player for a
> promotion team? I'd have to say no. Maybe one day but not today. This
> position is crucial - linking O'Kane to the players further forward,
> winning tackles, scoring goals, almost the complete midfielder. I'd like us
> to throw whatever money we've got at an experienced player to do that -
> trouble is, I can't think of too many. Any thoughts?
> >
> > CAM : Saiz is class, needs to see more of the ball in advanced positions.
> >
> > RW : I was happy with Alioski but starting to think the 

Re: [LU] Terrible

[Rob Heath]

Wow!

Every cloud has a silver lining,eh?

That's great news! Fuck off over to the Abu Dhabi City list
thenyou won't be missed.

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> I gave up, blessed SKY I could not watch.
> Instead, I saw two great games: L'Pool vs Man U & Man City vs Stoke. No
> way we can think of competing. I do not know if we lost or draw, frankly, I
> do not care.
> We have tried everything apart from doing what we should. Invest in the
> team and bring a normal manager.
> There have been too many hopes and even more disappointments. I am 73,
> been here since the age of 4. Moreover, I know, in my lifetime I will not
> see nowt.
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jim
> Moran
> |Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:53 PM
> |To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} Richard Walker
> |
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Terrible
> |
> |And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
> |relegation form.
> |
> |On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> |richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> |
> |> Fucking terrible this
> |>
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Re: [LU] Terrible

[Rob Heath]

It wasn't that bad.

Reading are obviously way better than their league position would suggest,
yet even so we all but won thiswe ground out the first 70
mins, then we were just turning the screw (chances starting to come, SS
getting on the ball around the box and starting to produce some magic), and
then the ref gifted them a goal. And even then, we would have got a point
but for the missed pen.

BTWhave to say though, what a beautiful pass that was that put
Barrow in for their goal.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Jim Moran  wrote:

> And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
> relegation form.
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > Fucking terrible this
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?

[Rob Heath]

Doesn't really help much actually Ian.

Are you saying that nobody watched it?

I don't think that can be right bc I saw that TC was there.
On 14 Oct 2017 19:03, "Ian Murray" <ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> No. Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
> -------- Original message 
> From: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Date: 14/10/2017 19:02 (GMT+08:00)
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?
>
> Report?
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[LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?

[Rob Heath]

Report?
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[LU] Shit

[Rob Heath]

We've got 2 more (suddenly) tough games coming up...Brizzle
away and Sheff U at home.
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Re: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)

[Rob Heath]

We were comfortably on top until the defence went to sleep and gave them a
goal..since then it's been like playing bloody Brazil!

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Midfield too really poor doing a defensive job. Sorry Phillips is crap.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jim Moran  wrote:
> >
> > Keeper and defence all over the place. Jansson permanently out of
> position
> > or ball watching and the keeper is useless. We won't win this one.
> >
> >> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 at 13:00, Matt Anderson 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We could have been 2 up and now we should be 4 down.
> >>
> >> Defence is a complete shambles
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:59, Simon McNally  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Should've smashed him.
> >>> Put lonergan on second half
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On 1 Oct 2017, at 12:54, {broken-address} <
> >> seanscr...@aol.com-is-broken.gn..apc.org> wrote:
> 
>  Anyone else think that Wiedwald was completely at fault in that goal?
> >> He hesitated instead of challenging for the ball. I think he is turning
> out
> >> to be a massive weak link in our defence.
> 
> 
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Boocock 
>  To: leedslist 
>  Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 7:53 am
>  Subject: [LU] Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
>  Wednesday 1 Leeds 0 (Hooper 25)
> 
>  According to my spies we should be three down
> 
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[LU] Saiz!

[Rob Heath]

I was quite surprised to see Saiz fail to finish a brilliant move b/c he
didn't want to shoot with his left foot...I would have expected a
Spanish player of his age, and having come through Real Madrid youth, to be
completely two footed.

On the other hand, or foot, or head actually, his cushioned headed pass to
Philips for the 2nd goal was utterly brilliant...the vision,
imagination and execution..all superb.
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Re: [LU] Burnley win?

[Rob Heath]

I am almost 100% in agreement with Rich. I too did not see the M/wall
match, but last night...well, yeah we didn't have the ball much,
but remember it was our reserves vs 7th in the Prem (mostly reserves) so I
thought we competed well.

One thing I disagree with almost everybody is on Sacko's goal.I'm
sure all Leeds fans like me were thinking "oh gawd where's this going?"
when he was bearing down on goal, but I thought it was a deliberate and
superb finish through the keeper's legs.

One other thing..I was hugely impressed with Shaughnessy. Not only
does he look superbly calm and solid, and seem to read the play very well,
but I think he's shown great character after his disastrous first minute in
a Leeds shirt. He's probably saved us the 9 million quid I think Swansea
were asking for Bartleby.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:51 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  Didn't see the Millwall match but listened on RL and it sounded like we
> pretty much second to the ball and second best all over the park and they
> had wave after wave of attack.
> This was not the case last night and whilst Burnley had the better of it I
> thought we competed well and never looked that troubled at the back. We
> didn't create much with Grot on his own and isolated, Roofe hugging the
> touchline and Cibicki poncing around like he owned the place but not
> actually doing anything. It definitely needed the introduction of Hernandes
> and Sacko to trouble them. Hernandes first touch was to bystep his man and
> play Sacko through. Yes he was lucky with his goal but his pace caused them
> all sorts of trouble and he skinned Charlie Taylor twice - I always thought
> Taylor was suspect when put on the back foot.
> I'd say overally, given the team selection / debuts etc it was a good
> performance.
> On Wednesday, 20 September 2017, 09:41:34 BST, David Smail <
> dsm...@dsmail.plus.com> wrote:
>
>  Watching only the highlights it appears to me that this wasn't much
> different from the Milwall game. Looks like we had to suffer wave after
> wave
> of Burnley attacks and were pretty much out everythinged most of the time
> in
> most areas. Burnley's finishing was poor which let us off to a large
> degree.
> Sacko's goal. if I'm not mistaken, went through the keeper's legs - goal's
> a
> goal, but perhaps some luck involved - great ball to him mind. Our penalty
> in normal time looked something between a very soft decision and no penalty
> at all. The shootout saw us shine but we should have been well buried long
> before that.
>
> We got through and I'm pleased about that, but it doesn't bode well that we
> can be pinned back and outplayed  / outmuscled so easily. Our great start
> to
> the season saw us doing that to our opponents. All teams seem to play a
> weakened line up in this competition so there's nothing in it there.
>
> Let's hope we can return to stamping our mark on games. Milwall and Burnley
> both had us chasing to try and adapt to what they were doing.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
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[LU] Greater love hath no man.........

[Rob Heath]

I knew if I watched the pens we'd lose.so, after having got up
at 2.45 in the morning and seen the whole 120 mins, I selflessly switched
off. So you can thank me for that win!

(I was also convinced that a) we'd lose, and b) Planka would score the
winning penand I didn't want to see that!)
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[LU] Good article

[Rob Heath]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/leeds-united-marching-world-club-reinflated/
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[LU] Improvement

[Rob Heath]

Although there's no doubt that last season was much better in many ways
than many years before it, there were still a number of infuriating things
about it; and one of those things was our performances after international
breaks.

As ever, the break would drag on and on, but all the time I would be
thinking "OK, so we've got this shit-hot coach now in Garry
Monk..everything was a bit rushed in pre-season, but now he's got 2
whole weeks to work his magic on these lads..we've only actually
got 3 or 4 players awayhe's always banging on about the group
and the project and it taking time.well now he's got time."

Result? 4 international breaks..4 post i-b games..points
zero...goals scored zero.

And this season? Well..
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[LU] What a weekend!

[Rob Heath]

Not only were the current players scoring for fun on
satdy...ex-players were banging 'em in all over t'country!

I haven't seen all the scorers by any means, but I did notice Wood,
Antonsson, Poleon, even Kilgallon all scoring. Bradley Johnson I believe
notched a brace on Friday night.

If you're smart, I'd put a bob on Sam Byram to score tonight!
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Re: [LU] Burton

[Rob Heath]

Bloody hell!

The results have been amazing so far, and (unlike often last season) the
performances have been as good if not better, as far as I can glean from
10,000 miles away.

And if even the professional miserabilist is throwing around 10s like
confetti, something must really be happening at Elland Road!

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 4:49 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
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>  Agree with Dave, yesterday was magnificent.
> Life changes and times change and yesterday I was sat in the rain and sun
> in the family stand with my 80 year old dad and my daughter (her first game
> !) and I don't think I've enjoyed myself as much as at Elland Road for a
> very long time. If I think back to that amazing 1989 promotion season I
> don't think that will ever be repeated - I went to every home and away game
> that season culminating in an historic weekend in Bournemouth. There was
> some great performances and games that season but none as good as what I
> saw yesterday and that's some statement. My old man likes to come to games
> but in recent years he's seen us thumped at home to Huddersfield amongst
> other terrible performances. Yesterday he reckoned that's the best he's
> seen Leeds play for 10 years.Every player looked comfortable on the ball
> and some of the pass and move football had everyone around me just stood on
> their feet applauding. Burton were chasing shadows and just couldn't live
> with us and we could have been 5 up in the first 20 minutes. A scoreline of
> 8 or 9 nil at halftime would have reflected the game more than 3-0. A guy
> behind me said it was mainly down to Burton who offered nothing. Yes ok,
> Murphy couldn't play for them and apparently Warnock was playing with a
> knock but they nearly beat Sheff Wed last week and how many times have we
> seen journeymen teams like this come to Elland Road and make it very
> difficult for us. We made them look rubbish and I don't think they had a
> shot on target in 93 minutes.
> The remarkable thing for me is that TC plays with a team who are capable
> of doing unexpected attacking football. To have a team with Siaz, Hernandes
> and Roofe would not have been contemplated by Garry Monk. They're all
> slightly unpredictable (in the case of Hernandes very unpredictable) and
> are all considered to be the same sort of player. To have them all in the
> team and all playing at the top of their game and working together is
> almost genius from the manager. then you throw in Luke Ayling as an
> attacking right back who gives Mel Sterland (the Flying Pig) a run for his
> money, and Lassoga who is a big unit who can move fast and get into good
> position. His performance first half was better than Wood offered in any of
> his 30 goal season games last season, and Lasogga ain't match fit. This guy
> looks the business.
> At the back, Vurn played well at left back and even he was turning into a
> left winger at times. The back two were untroubled and Pontus even treated
> us in the family stand to some tricks which really took the piss out of the
> Burton player. What a star that bloke is.
> The goals were all good but I loved Lasogga first - powerfully bursting on
> to the ball and smashing it in with his left foot. Hernandes took his
> penalty well and Philips got his 3rd this season with a nice curling left
> foot effort.
> 2nd effort we continued to dominate but the 3 subs (Lasogga, Anita and
> O'Kane) did disrupt our game and although we were never troubled we didn't
> have the same slick style although Siaz treated us to some skills late on.
> More of this please, I can't imagine anyone in that crowd not returning on
> Tuesday night unless like me you'll be working in Glasgow so I'm in the
> process of testing out this VPN carry on so I can get the live stream. Just
> can't miss seeing it.
> Scores:
> Wiedwald - ? How do you rate a player who did nothing ? I still couldn't
> tell you whether this keeper is any good ? Is literally had nothing to do
> since the Bolton game .
> Anita - 9. Solid, good link up play. Good player.
> Ayling - 10. Playing most of the first half like a right winger bursting
> forward. Great stuff.
> Cooper - 9. Didn't have much to do but what he did was confident.
> Jansson - 10. Taking the piss, defending with style, bringing the ball
> forward - complete defender.
> O'Kane - 9. This was the best I've seen from him. He's limited but in this
> team his steadiness is required. Busy player with some good turns to start
> off moves.
> Philips - 10. Ditto O'kane however he bagged another goal. Also towards
> the end as we took the foot off the gas, Philips was still chasing and
> harrying. I would have had Vierra and Bridcutt in all day over Philips but
> credit to TC and to Philips at the moment they are proving me and others
> wrong.
> Roofe - 10. When I heard the team news walking to the ground that Allioski
> had been dropped and Roofe will play on the wing I thought it would 

Re: [LU] Good interview with Orta - some insight etc

[Rob Heath]

I love that guy!

Hard to understand though.

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[LU] WATCCOE?

[Rob Heath]

I've noticed this a couple of times over the last year or
sothere seems to be an office somewhere at the club (or at
Thorp Arch)..wherever they get new signings to sit down and sign
for the press...and there is a graphic behind them which looks like
it is commemorating the very moment our club's history changed forever, ie
Lorimer's goal in Paris and its disallowment.

(See here, eg:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-fan-power-is-key-to-promotion-says-stuart-dallas-1-8734765
)

If this is true..I LOVE IT! The club should never forget that we
had the greatest glory stolen from us, and we must always strive to right
that wrong, however long it takes and however far away that goal may seem.

Has anybody seen this wall, or office, and can confirm where it is and what
it shows?
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[LU] So..........

[Rob Heath]

did anybody watch that u/23 game that was free on LUTV?

I;m sure Dave Nattan did.

What's the verdict on all these fledgling superstars we've snapped up?
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[LU] Bridcutt

[Rob Heath]

Ha ha ha.
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[LU] 10s all round!

[Rob Heath]

What a performance!

Superb from back to front, and you can tell there's a fantastic team spirit.

My only concern is that Saiz is way too good for this league and I cannot
believe we'll keep him after January. (...or even after this
week!.if Barcelona are smart they'd offer 25 million of their
Neymar money and there's their replacement!)

The only one who would not get a 10 from me would be
Christiansen.and he'd get a 12!
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Re: [LU] FW: Philips

[Rob Heath]

It *was *a thoroughly excellent performance and a massive victory, but
let's face it.Sunderland were abject rubbish. Are they just
crap, or did we make them look bad? Given their previous results, you have
to think it was the latter.

That was the first time I've seen us play this seasonwow, what
a player Saiz is!

But my hero from that match was Liam Cooper...apart from his
astonishing, match-changing goalline save, he was superb throughout. I
think he is showing excellent character to be playing so well after the
toll last season's events must have taken on his confidence.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 2:40 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> He was very good and we know he has the capability to put in performances
> like this. If he did this every week I would eat my words although I do
> want him to do really well.
> I thought we played pretty well today although I don't think Sunderland
> are up to much. They played like their crowd - shite.
> I loved the way we played in the second part of the first half with Saiz
> and Alloiski looking very dangerous especially on the counter.
> here's my scores:
> new keeper - 7. Had knack all to do but the one or two bits he did well. A
> couple of dodgy kicks.
> Ayling - 8. Battled hard but had a few dodgy moments against their best
> player. I think someone with pace who has Ayling on the back foot has a
> chance, I think that's when he struggles a bit.
> Anita - 8. I thought he was very solid in fact that's what he is a very
> solid, dependable player, exactly what you need in this league because most
> of the players are not.
> Cooper - 9. Very solid defending.
> Jansson - 10. In complete control all day. Together they looked very solid
> against a toothless Sunderland attack. Kyle who ?
> O'Kane - 7. I thought he was busy but his play had little quality.
> Philips - 8. Very good performance, battled hard, controlled the ball well
> and used it well. He's got consistent pace and when he gets the pace of the
> game he looks confident. Sunderland played with a slow pace which really
> suited him.
> Siaz - 9. Livewire. I thought he had chances and made runs that we could
> have made even more of. Great little player.
> Allioski - 9. First half he was superb , looked very dangerous and I think
> the absence of Wood allowed him and Siaz to get forward from midfield.
> Hernandez - 7. Not on long before he got injured by a ridiculous mix up
> with O'Kane but him and Siaz can definitely play together. Monk would never
> have entertained two players like that.
> Ekuban - 6. I was fairly impressed in that he ran hard and when he had the
> ball he showed good control. Shame he got injured.
> Subs:
> Roofe - 7. I was really disappointed (again) - he's lightweight, no pace
> and just can't stamp his authority on the game. Had a chance to play in his
> preferred role as a striker but he is no lone striker.
> Dallas - great header
> Klisch - did ok
> Overall, this was a perfect performance. The injuries are mounting up now.
>
>
>
>
>   From: Richard Naef 
>  To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
>  Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2017, 19:19
>  Subject: [LU] FW: Philips
>
>
> Is it just me or has Philips had a very good game?
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
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Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?

[Rob Heath]

Missed the match as it EXACTLY (Infuriatingly) coincided with my journey to
Heathrow.

Heartened by 3 away goals and 3 away points though.

Best thing for me was an entry on the BBC "live" (but actually virtually
dead) update page...10 mins from the end, it said something
like: " Leeds are controlling the game well, keeping the ball and pinning
Bolton in their own half." With a 3-2 lead with 15 to go in just about
every recent season (and especially under Monk), we would have sat back and
allowed them to pour balls into our box. In fact that was about the only
real improvement last yearwhen that happened, Bartley & Jansson
usually dealt with it all, but not without alarums.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jim Moran  wrote:

> I agree. OKane was decent. Manager does sound like he's going to know a
> song that will get on your nerves though.
>
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 at 20:26, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
> > Wow...i thought O'Kane was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
> Thought
> > Alioski did well too after a nervy start and set up the second. And Anita
> > was safety personified.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2017, at 1:54 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good result against a poor team.
> > > I think the subs really affected us and we made heavy weather against a
> > bunch of journeymen.
> > > here's my scores from armchair (and a few Saltaire Blondes):
> > > Wieldwald - 5. Didn't look like a keeper that's going to command his
> > area which is so important in this league. I understand the new manager
> > wanting to bring in his keeper especially when Green ain't going to go on
> > for much longer.
> > > Ayling - 9. For me he was our best player. Solid and consistent.
> > > Beradi - 6. Unfortunate with injury.
> > > Pennington - 7. Thought he looked really good. Hope his injury isn't a
> > bad one because together with Jansson would be good.
> > > Cooper - 7. Didn't do anything wrong and I think it was a decent
> > captain's performance.
> > > O'Kane - 6. He did ok but I didn't see anything new from last season.
> Is
> > he a better midfielder than Vierra ? I don't think so.
> > > Philips - 7. Two good goals however I actually think his general play
> at
> > times was poor however he was busy and he was always there so in this
> games
> > that was crucial. Is he a better player than Vierra ? I don't think so.
> > > Roofe - 6. Again, he did nothing to suggest he's going anything to add
> > from last season. Once decent cross for the goal but he generally looks
> > lightweight to me , falling over at every opportunity.
> > > Hernandez- 7 . First half was a typical away performance from him -
> > shite but he improved second half and was unlucky with his shot.
> > > Alioski - 5. Is he a left winger ? Didn't look like it from me. Not
> sure
> > about him.
> > > Wood - 7. Good goal and excellent for our second.I still find him slow
> > and ponderous at times. 20 million - you've got to be kidding.
> > > subs:
> > > shaugnessy - what was he playing at ?
> > > Sacko - sack of shito
> > > good start but nothing much to make me think we're better than last
> > season.
> > >
> > >  From: wayne callaghan 
> > > To: "richleed...@yahoo.co.uk" 
> > > Cc: "j...@jimmoran.co.uk" ; "davidwool...@gmail.com
> "
> > ; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" ;
> "
> > nat...@sky.com" ; "
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org" <
> > richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:47
> > > Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
> > >
> > > Our keeper reminds me of silvestri ... Clueless with crosses.
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >
> > > Sent from BlueMailOn 6 Aug 2017, at 17:31, {broken-address} Richard
> > Walker  wrote:
> > > well it's better than QPR last season but I suspect we're playing the
> > worst team in the league.
> > > Maybe one too many luxury players in there for me. Hernandez, Roofe and
> > Allioski all pretty poor.
> > > their goal - that's how we used to defend for corners pre-Pontus.
> > > like the look of pennington though - together with pontus will be good.
> > > worried about Anita playing a left back - he hasn't got a left foot.
> > Beradi hasn't either but he doesn't look to have the bollocks that Beradi
> > does.
> > > Can't complain.
> > >
> > > From: Jim Moran 
> > > To: David W ; Leeds List  >;
> > Richard Walker ; "nat...@sky.com" <
> nat...@sky.com
> > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017, 17:09
> > > Subject: Re: [LU] Bye bye Bridcutt ?
> > >
> > > If we're 2 up after 30 minutes every game I would ditch white 

Re: [LU] What do you expect from the new season ? long and rambling ( had lots of morphine this week)

[Rob Heath]

I don't think Chris Wood will be a Leeds United player on Sep 1st.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:33 AM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> I always like to be optimistic - last season there were lots of unknowns,
> the manager (who let's not forget came very close to an early sacking) and
> a whole team of new players - Green Ayling Barltey, Grimes, O'Kane,
> Jansson, Roofe, Hernandez, were all players I knew next to nothing about,
> so any optimism was 'blind optimsim'
> This year we know that Wood and Jansson are as good as anybody in this
> division and that the rest of the squad is good enough on their day to win
> most games. Big question is TC - can he cut it at this level, and can we
> replace Bartley with someone who will keep the defence just as solid - is
> Pennington that man ? We know Cooper is good for 89 minutes but will then
> cost a goal week in, week out.
>
> It is unclear how much game time the other new players will get but
> hopefully any that do play will make us better - Anita has a good pedigree
> and Alioski looes special
> So I am fairly confident that we will be better than last season and
> therefore , logically, we will make the play offs. I cannot really see us
> getting automatic unless Saiz and Klitch really come to the party and / or
> Roofe shows his talent every game and Vieira the same
> So I reckon we will end up 5th or 6th - or we will sack the manager at
> Christmas and end up 10th -12th
> DavePS I am never 'morphine free' it all depends on how much extra
> oramorph I take as to how 'with it ' I am
>
>   From: Richard Naef 
>  To: Leeds List 
>  Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2017, 21:58
>  Subject: Re: [LU] What do you expect from the new season ? long and
> rambling ( had lots of morphine this week)
>
> So big question Dave, are you more or less optimistic than last year?  -
> you can give 2 answers, 1 b4 the morphine & 1 after 
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
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Re: [LU] Harrogate highlights are on LUTV

[Rob Heath]

I was at Lord's...glorious day..glorious innings.
On 6 Jul 2017 19:55, "Scott1cairns1"  wrote:

> Any comments from the list on roots debut today.
>
> Best regards,Scott.
>
> > On 6 Jul 2017, at 14:03, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > On official siteErwin looks a big unit - don't recall him being that big
> when he last played for us.
> > Hard to see who did well / badly etc with 4mins of highlights
> >
> > Dave
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Re: [LU] Thomas Christiansen - no me neither

[Rob Heath]

Harumph!

When did anyone with the initials TC ever do any good for Leeds?

What?! Oh.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Simon Hart  wrote:

> Feels like another Hock.
>
> On 15 June 2017 at 12:05, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>
> > Phil Hay says TC from Cypriot team Apoel has been confirmed as new
> manager
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Re: [LU] None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Rob Heath]

Ha!

The only thing I know about Deal is I knew a lad on my Geography course at
Leeds University back in the 70s who was from Deal (but was a massive Leeds
fan.)

He liked to sing , before going out of an evening, a nice little hometown
ditty: "We come from Deal town, so get yer knickers down."



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:03 PM, {broken-address} Graham White <
gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> If you're going to Kent, then visit Deal  - a surprisingly attractive and
> charming little seaside town with a very nice coast walk to Dover (get the
> train back).
>
> Agree about Whitby being the best tho'.
>
> Graham White
> 
>
>
> On Tuesday, 13 June 2017, 8:51, {broken-address} Forsake ends <
> forzale...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
>
>  It's a lovely spot, a nuclear power station one side and an army shooting
> range on the other.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 8 Jun 2017, at 23:15, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > Over the past year or so I've spent a little time in Hythe. It has a
> faded
> > charm and although there are a lot of charity shops there are no obvious
> > boarded up ones.
> >
> > So Hythe gets my vote!
> >
> > Damian
> >
> > PS Labour seats currently declaring first - proving socialist efficacity
> > over tory ineptitude :)
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:26 PM, David Brennan 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> .
> >>
> >> Thought that might start a close season 'best seaside town' type debate
> >> (have we had one before?), but apparently there's a new manager to
> discuss
> >> instead.
> >>
> >> Whitby gets my vote btw - as seaside town, not manager.
> >>
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Re: [LU] Biting satire

[Rob Heath]

The Tories are in even more of a mess than I thought: I was watching some
news yesterday with the subtitles on (for some reason)..somebody
was outlining potential replacements for May, and said "David Davies, Amber
Rudd"...the subtitles read "David Davies and a rug."

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:38 PM, {broken-address} John Lee <
bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Been compulsive viewing for sure, and Channel 4 news on Friday night was
> without doubt the funniest serious news programme ever - ever so slightly
> sarcastic :-) I'm just waiting for Sinn Fein to turn up for a critical vote
> now. Agree about Bufoon Johnson - laughable oaf as leader is slowly being
> accepted as not a good thing. Mind you, the grey one appointed nodding dog
> Gove back into her fold. She should just cut to the credits and resign
> now.Shame Amber Duff held on, but the day of reckoning is coming for that
> talentless fool! She'll probably have a stab at being leader, with her
> massive 346 majority!
> I do have one concern - now the DUP will be in Parliament, who's going to
> play Hagrid in Harry Potter :-)
> Good to see Ingerland winning a cup. The seniors arn't going to win much
> with Joe Hart around - what do you mean he'll swerve it into the corner,
> goal, what do you mean he'll swerve it into the corner, goal! Bloody
> groundhog day!
>
>
>
>   From: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
>  To: {broken-address} Forsake ends <forzale...@aol.com-is-broken.
> gn.apc.org>
> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, 10 June 2017, 20:51
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Biting satire
>
> I love this election result. Tories wings clipped labour claiming victory
> despite losing and having no chance of forming a Govt SNP destroyed.
>
> Keep getting petitions to object to conservative unionist coalition but
> thats democracy it's over. Just like Brexit.
>
> Nowadays DUP and Sinn Fein are legitimate parties and it's perfectly
> acceptable for these parties to form a govt. unlike corbyn and his youthful
> activities where he had no mandate or influence
>
> I know a DUP MP through work and he is a capable decent bloke busienss
> wise. Never revealed my political view or religion to him.
>
> I love a bit of chaos
>
>
> > On 10 Jun 2017, at 20:27, {broken-address} Forsake ends <
> forzale...@aol.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Well unlike Corbyn they're not allied themselves with supporters of
> terrorism and religious intolerance. Oops !
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 10 Jun 2017, at 13:08, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I haven't stopped laughing since 10:01PM Thursday evening.  My greatest
> hope is that they'll elect Johnson the PM, who will undoubtedly make the
> Tory Scum unelectable for a generation.
> >>
> >> I can just visualise Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre's faces as they
> realised that the British electorate aren't as stupid as they thought.
> >>
> >> ttfn
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Rob
> Heath
> >> Sent: 10 June 2017 05:58
> >> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> >> Subject: [LU] Biting satire
> >>
> >> Who is this: they took a position of total impregnability and managed
> to fritter it all away within the space of 6 weeks?
> >>
> >> Yep...Theresa May is the Garry Monk of football. No hang
> on..Garry Monk is the Garry Monk of football...Theresa May = the
> Garry Monk of politics..that's it.
> >>
> >> And proposing a dementia tax is the losing at home to Wolves of,
> er..OK I give up.
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[LU] Biting satire

[Rob Heath]

Who is this: they took a position of total impregnability and managed to
fritter it all away within the space of 6 weeks?

Yep...Theresa May is the Garry Monk of football. No hang on..Garry
Monk is the Garry Monk of football...Theresa May = the Garry Monk of
politics..that's it.

And proposing a dementia tax is the losing at home to Wolves of, er..OK
I give up.
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Re: [LU] Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Rob Heath]

Unfortunately, Murray's match was on too late for me, so I missed it.

I'll be staying up for the SFs though...should be 2 great
tennis matches.

If Muzzah can win this thing from here, I'll tip my hat to him. If I were a
betting man, I'd have my money on the winner of the Nadal v Thiem match to
take the title. Personally, my order of preference is
Stan.Thiem.Nadal.the Scottish Curmudgeon.

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Graham Thirkill <
graham.thirki...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Well, well, well you Murray haters and moaners. Hope this latest result
> spoils your day and ruins your
> week. My favourite “living" sportsman is through to the semi's. It took
> Andy a set to warm up but when
> he did he was in control, really, throughout the remainder of the match
> IMHHO, what a player we have
> here in the UK(;-)) Most of the UK, Except a lot of the Leeds United
> email list will be overjoyed
> that we have such a fantastic wonderful sportsman and the world's number
> one tennis player….
>
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers\098/
>
> PS Have one of those days??You know what I mean
>
>
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Re: [LU] Fwd: None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Rob Heath]

I did indeed love good old "Come on" Tim. Winning is not everything in
sport, although it's amazing how many people watch or play sport yet don't
know that.

P.s. No.
On 5 Jun 2017 21:57, "Graham Thirkill" <graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Maybe because he’s a winner and world number one…….each to their own
> Rob….Maybe, then, you drooled over, never-one-owt, Tim Henman….. he had
> charisma but little else IMHHO……..
>
> Cheers and Beers
> Thirkers
>
> PS….Did you visit me in Whitby at my business, about 15 years ago, with
> your son If so,
> I hope he still has the John Charles signed programme I have gave
> him…. Sorry if I’m wrong,
> but it was a long time ago, but a few people used to come to see me in
> Whitby…..
>
>
> Rob Heath Posted;_
>
> You're going to think I'm being deliberately contrary, but I have to say
> that I cannot warm to Murray.
>
> I used to despise him with a passionafter he single handedly won
> us the Davis Cup I tried hard to like him, but I just can't.
>
> For some reason, style is SO important in tennis. Murray is undoubtedly a
> impressively effective player who yes does play some great shots, and yes
> he's a fantastic competitor but he's got none of the style or charisma of,
> as a perfect example, these two fabulous players who are on court
> nowMonfils and Wawrinka.
> On 5 Jun 2017 20:52, "Graham Thirkill" <graham.thirki...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just watched World "Number One" Andy Murray cruise through to the last
>> eight in the French open, three sets to nil. I remember a few years ago I
>> seemed to be the only Andy Murray fan on this list. I mentioned his name
>> and got blasted by a few on here.
>> Not one other lister had a good word to say about him, I distinctly
>> remember that……although that didn’t really surprise me. Seeing as he has
>> won just about everything and being knighted as well, I suppose some of you
>> will dislike him even more……It is because he’s a winner or a Scot or that
>> he’s both…Just wondered???
>> Have a good Monday gents…..
>> Cheers and Beers
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Re: [LU] None LU: Andy Murray World Number one (;-))

[Rob Heath]

You're going to think I'm being deliberately contrary, but I have to say
that I cannot warm to Murray.

I used to despise him with a passionafter he single handedly won us
the Davis Cup I tried hard to like him, but I just can't.

For some reason, style is SO important in tennis. Murray is undoubtedly a
impressively effective player who yes does play some great shots, and yes
he's a fantastic competitor but he's got none of the style or charisma of,
as a perfect example, these two fabulous players who are on court
nowMonfils and Wawrinka.
On 5 Jun 2017 20:52, "Graham Thirkill" 
wrote:

> Just watched World "Number One" Andy Murray cruise through to the last
> eight in the French open, three sets to nil. I remember a few years ago I
> seemed to be the only Andy Murray fan on this list. I mentioned his name
> and got blasted by a few on here.
> Not one other lister had a good word to say about him, I distinctly
> remember that……although that didn’t really surprise me. Seeing as he has
> won just about everything and being knighted as well, I suppose some of you
> will dislike him even more……It is because he’s a winner or a Scot or that
> he’s both…Just wondered???
> Have a good Monday gents…..
> Cheers and Beers
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[LU] Anyone watching the French Open?

[Rob Heath]

Hope I won't offend Mr. Thurkill if I ask: Kyle Edmond...he's from
Beverley...anyone know if he's a Leeds fan? You'd think so according to
his kit, although by that reckoning it seems like half the players in the
competition are Leeds fans bc blue yellow and white seem to be very
fashionable this year
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Re: [LU] At Hk 7s (football obvs not rugger)

[Rob Heath]

Dear Mr. Holier-than-thou,

Thanks so much for pointing out the terrible intolerance and inhumanity of
my behaviour towards another person which I displayed at the weekend.

It is to saintly people like you that we weak and thoughtless folk owe a
massive debt of gratitude.

P.S. I notice that your name is Graham Thirkill. Are you by any chance
related to the Graham Thirkill on whose "circulation list" I was
inadvertently added a few years ago? I don't think you can be, because this
person was sending out a series of sexist, nationalist, intolerant "jokes"
which were surely gleaned from the Daily Mail or the UKIP newsletter.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Graham Thirkill <
graham.thirki...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> rheath: for some unknown reason told us:-
> Fat bloke in front of me wearing a Wendies shirt..
>
> Me: Hey mate.good luck in the playoff final!
> Twat (surly): Errr we're not in it.
> Me: Oh sorry..what happened?
> T(surlier): We lost on pens to bloody Huddersfield.
> Me: Oh no! Did Jordan Rhodes take one?
> T: Fuck off.
> ———
> Did the guy wearing the Wednesday Shirt ask who your team was??
> Or did you tell him your team wasn’t good enough to qualify for the
> play-offs
> Did you mention that you called his shirt a Wendies shirt???
> Are you one of the clowns who call Manchester United Scum???
> You sound so pathetic, with this little childish story, grow up, I thought
> you was a
> school-teacher. Tell me again who the twat was…….??
> Have a good day
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Re: [LU] Don't care about Monkfish

[Rob Heath]

100 % in agreement Damianas you say, something connected with our club
we can be proud of at last.

One great response to the Manc bombing is to chip away at the edifices of
religion.
On 27 May 2017 05:20, "Damian Walsh"  wrote:

> And why should we when Eunan O'Kane is going to court to establish his
> right to a humanist wedding.
>
> This is one we can all get behind - we can put all the years of hurt since
> Woodgate & Bowyer behind us and we can proudly say
> "We are Leeds, give us justice!"
>
> Win this one and we can smell the Champions League (no apostrophe for
> obvious reasons ;))
>
> Damian
>
> Ranieri IN!
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Re: [LU] Monk resigned

[Rob Heath]

Sounds to me like Monk has been badly advised.

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Nigel Sykes  wrote:

> Sky Sports intimating that they have it on good authority that Monk wanted
> more than the 1 year extension and that's all he was initially offered.
> Leeds saying they would have been prepared to talk about a longer contract,
> but he'd spat his dummy out by then.
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: 25 May 2017 19:08
> To: Matt Anderson; Michael Benjamin
> Cc: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)
> Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
>
> Possibly, however let's wait and hear Monk's side of things. I was however
> pointing out that if Cellino has been in charge he would have taken all the
> stick for this however it appears that Monk is getting most now rather than
> the new owner. What about the rumour that Radrizzani had been trying to get
> that Italian Watford cunt to come and manage us before triggering Monk's
> one year extension. That sounds more plausible to me. Get the coffin ready.
>
>   From: Matt Anderson 
>  To: Michael Benjamin 
> Cc: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" 
>  Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 18:51
>  Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
>
> Spot on! Nothing to do with owners. He has a better job to go to.
>
> > On 25 May 2017, at 17:33, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry he's gone.
> > But, if you don’t want to be here -- adios.
> > No one is bigger than the club.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist.
> >
> > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> > PHONE: +972-505-317772
> > BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> > myRay: Online CBT
> >
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> > |Richard Naef
> > |Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 7:27 PM
> > |To: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> > |
> > |I hear Steven Evans is still available….
> > |
> > |ttfn
> > |
> > |Richard
> > |
> > |From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk]
> > |Sent: 25 May 2017 17:22
> > |To: Richard Naef ; Jeremy Adams
> > |
> > |Cc: 'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)' 
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> > |
> > |Terry Venables ?
> > |
> > |
> > |From: Richard Naef  > |computers.co.uk>
> > |To: Jeremy Adams
> > |>
> > |Cc: "'leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)'"
> > |>
> > |Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2017, 17:10
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> > |
> > |OK If not him then who?
> > |He did get Boro up and that's what we want, and what other options are
> there?
> > |
> > |ttfn
> > |
> > |Richard
> > |
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: Leedslist
> > |[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org > |boun...@gn.apc.org>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams
> > |Sent: 25 May 2017 16:22
> > |To: John Boocock >; N If
> > |>; Leeds List
> > |>; {broken-address}
> > |Richard Walker  > |broken.gn.apc.org > |>>
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] Monk resigned
> > |
> > |Hard to imagine it's anyone other than Karanka, which is depressing.
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |Jeremy
> > |
> > |
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Re: [LU] : Manchester

[Rob Heath]

We do not want to be lectured about "terrorism" and "security" from an
Israeli, thank you very much.

It is so easy to light some candles, give some blood and mutter about evil
deranged muslims.doesn't anybody ever ask themselves what
islamic terrorism is REALLY about?

It all stems from something that was written in a letter on 2 November 1917
(no, I'm not that fanaticalI just looked it up!) The Balfour
Declarationthat, compounded by the unspeakable evil of the
nazis, has led us to where we are today.

And btw..what an outrageous piece of cynicism for May to now
declare a nationwide state of emergency. Blatantly using those dead kids to
further her message about the need for "Strong & Stable" leadership.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and
> guards. It means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on
> my El Al flights I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make
> things worse. Sure, it's a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll
> kill a lot more than e terrorist.
> How does it stop? By having guards who intercept the terrorist. A lot die
> for their efforts. But the 'kill rate' falls dramatically. So low it is no
> longer is effective.
> Civil liberties are curtailed. You have no alternative. Profiling is
> unpleasant.
> Right now the UK is in a worse position than we were.  We can identify the
> problem areas and if need be close them down. It's cruel It is collective
> punishment. It works. The same goes for profiling.
> Sorry, it is not business as usual. If it is, expect a lot more deaths.
> Michael
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> |nat...@sky.com
> |Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:10 PM
> |To: Leeds List 
> |Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester
> |
> |I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get
> upset -
> |anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went
> to the
> |Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they
> never usually
> |do any sort bag checking but last night they did have 2 old dears (it is
> mainly
> |staffed by volunteers) looking in handbags. It was a sell out crowd and
> every seat
> |was full so no-one appeared to be 'scared off' - it was odd on the way out
> |afterwards to see 2 police cars - one from Wales with Heddu written on it
> - with
> |3 coppers stood with them, 2 with machine guns and one with a hand gun -
> they
> |were getting pizza from a local pizzeria. I hate to see armed police and
> hope this
> |does not become the normI know friends who are going, as normal, to the
> town
> |centre tonight to watch their game and I am off into Piccadilly on
> Saturday for a
> |few beers.
> |I do know a lad with 2 young daughters who had tickets for the MEN but
> could
> |not go and gave the tickets away, thankfully to people who stayed safe
> (that
> |would not be a good thing to have on your conscience if they had died)
> and he is
> |worried about taking them into town over the weekend for the marathon or
> |whatever it is. He does not want the terrorists to 'win' but fears for
> their safety
> |and thinks that they will be too worried to enjoy themselves - difficult
> decisions
> |The saving grace of it all is the fact that it is one (or maybe a few)
> nutters who
> |did this atrocious act but the number of people who did great things
> during and
> |afterwards is in the hundreds if not more - rescuing people, giving free
> taxis,
> |giving so much blood they have stopped taking it , people taking food to
> the
> |hospitals, and the various collections for the victims families and for
> the two
> |homeless lads who helped are going through the roof.
> |We will have the flag at half mast tonight at cubs to show our respect I
> am not
> |however having a bee tattooed on myself at weekend despite the Manchester
> |tattoo association saying they will do them for a £50 donation to the
> victims fund
> |dave
> |
> |
> |  From: Graham Thirkill 
> | To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> | Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017, 19:32
> | Subject: [LU] : Manchester
> |
> |Richard Naeff said: Quote
> |> Hope Dave and anyone else with connections to Manchester is OK -  can't
> all
> |sides just stop killing Children?
> |> ttfn Richard Quote”
> |
> |May I second Rich’s, post…Iv’e crie…...but not ashamed, I’m a father and
> grand-
> |father and uncle. It’s heartbreaking, thinking, any of these unfortunate,
> lovely
> |kids could have been one of my lovely kids…To Manchester people... I take
> my
> |hat off to you all, you have been amazing, 

Re: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous

[Rob Heath]

Posting of the year!
On 20 May 2017 22:35, "Nigel Sykes"  wrote:

> Gotta agree with Dave.  I have no problem with the final being at Wembley,
> but all the other shite is ridiculous.  The team that finishes 1st gets a
> trophy, the one that finishes 2nd gets nothing but the reward of promotion.
> So why should the team that eventually finishes '3rd' get a trophy?  Can
> you
> imagine them presenting a trophy for the winner of the 3rd-4th place
> play-off in the World Cup?
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> nat...@sky.com
> Sent: 20 May 2017 15:11
> To: Leeds List
> Subject: [LU] Play off final is ridiculous
>
> Is there a more stupid game in football than a play off final ?
> Whilst I accept the inherent unfairness of the play off system, whereby a
> team coming 6th can get promoted over a team coming 3rd, it does have some
> good points.It really helps keep a season alive for so many teams and means
> that unless you are in a relegation fight you almost always think 'if we
> win
> these next few games we can get in the play offs'
> I really like the play off semi finals and the atmosphere and tension that
> they create with full houses at both games but the final is total nonsense
> I
> have just had the misfortune whilst flicking through the channels to turn
> on
> Sky sports just as the two teams (millwall and bradford) came out to
> fireworks, the red carpet, the presentation line for dignitaries and then
> the national anthemn - totally over the top and ridiculous This is NOT a
> cup
> final ffs, or even a celebration of winning stuff, as per Community Shield
> or Super Cup, this is two teams who were not good enough to win their
> league
> or even come second - these are two teams who are basically, losers. Yet
> here they are in a game that has all the hall marks of a real final, even
> to
> the presenting of a trophy at the end of it This is not sour grapes on my
> part - I felt it at Cardiff and even more so at Wembley when we were there-
> it really bugs me.
> IF this game has to be played at a neutral ground, then play it at one of
> the old semi final grounds (Villa, Scum, Hillsboro etc) and play it with no
> razzmatazz and no trophy (as i have said before it should be played at 3 in
> the morning behind closed doors with the player being sneaked in and out in
> disguise !) Yes promotion is great for the club involved but this actual
> game does not deserve the accoutrements that surround it and I would say
> this even if it end up being us involved next season So keep the play off
> system but please change the format of the final Dave
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[LU] Wendies

[Rob Heath]

Despise both, but I just about wanted the Wendies to win last night just to
shut that arrogant prig Wagtail the fuck up.

But still..v happy that Forsetieri missed the last pen. Still
haven't forgiven him for his remarks about Leeds when he signed for
them.or for his role in that non-given goal down there 2 yrs
ago..karma!

But what about the famous super-striker Jordan Rhodes? how much did they
pay for him..and he didn't even step up to take a pen in their
most important game ever?
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Re: [LU] IFollow

[Rob Heath]

Apparament Leeds Derby & Villa are opting out of this.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 5:46 AM, Nigel Sykes  wrote:

> I expect that they will attempt to limit access according to IP address.
> I have a French address, so notionally could subscribe from there, but
> access from the UK and Ireland will probably be difficult, even with that.
> We will probably be able to use a VPN to get around that, but it will
> result in low bandwidth and a poor quality picture.  Time will tell, I
> guess.  We just need a guinea pig to try it out!
>
>
>
> Nigel
> (the Dublin (and Brittany) one)
>
>
>
> From: Nicholas Armit [mailto:arm...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 03 May 2017 20:29
> To: Nigel Sykes; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow
>
>
>
> I will sign up and charge a nominal fee to use my credentials.
>
>
>
> If I charge a pound a month and have 20,000 people signed up.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Nigel Sykes 
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow
>
>
>
> *sigh* Ireland not included.  Like we can pop along to games easier than
> people in other European countries...
>
> Nigel
> (the disappointed Dublin one)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: 03 May 2017 19:36
> To: Nicholas Armit; arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org;
> {broken-address}; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] IFollow
>
> More info:
> The innovative new service will enable overseas EFL fans to follow their
> team’s entire 2017/18 season The EFL has today unveiled iFollow, an
> innovative digital live streaming and content platform that will
> revolutionise the way football fans overseas can follow their EFL teams.
>
> iFollow will, for the first time in English football, enable EFL fans
> based outside the UK and Ireland to watch their team during the regular EFL
> season. With an estimated 270,000 EFL fans based outside the UK, iFollow
> will allow clubs to enable their supporters to follow the action wherever
> they are in the world.
>
> Kicking off at the start of the 2017/18 EFL season, overseas subscribers
> will pay the equivalent of £110 per season for the service which will
> provide coverage of up to 46 live games per club. More than 1,500 matches
> will be available in HD quality, with iFollow showing every EFL league
> match live unless that match has been selected by the EFL’s overseas
> broadcast partners.
>
> Fans based in the UK and Ireland will still also have access to live audio
> commentary, highlights packages and exclusive content as part of the new
> offering, rebranded to replace the EFL’s existing PlayerHD platform.
>
> At launch, the vast majority of EFL clubs have opted in to utilise the
> iFollow platform and those who have not will have access to the same live
> streaming opportunity and will provide their fans with access through their
> own club digital services.
>
> Research commissioned by the EFL suggests that there is significant demand
> for a service like iFollow amongst fans based overseas. A survey of over
> 1,600 such fans showed that 73% would be very likely or quite likely to
> subscribe to a live match streaming service and almost half would be happy
> to pay an annual subscription fee to do so. The findings suggest over 55%
> of the EFL’s fans are located in the United States, Canada, Australia and
> New Zealand where the potential audience for the iFollow platform could
> reach into the hundreds of thousands.
>
> EFL Chief Executive Shaun Harvey commented: “The launch of iFollow is a
> notable development and will revolutionise the access thousands of overseas
> fans enjoy when following their EFL team.
>
> “The new iFollow platform represents a potentially significant new revenue
> stream for Clubs, while enabling enhanced engagement with existing fans now
> living abroad.
>
> “iFollow will also present the EFL with an important opportunity to
> stimulate the interest of new groups of supporters who follow our clubs
> overseas, which in turn will help support the growth of our competitions on
> the international stage.”
>
> The live streaming of matches will be available from the start of the
> 2017/18 season in conjunction with a brand new digital presence for clubs
> via official websites and apps, together creating the largest sporting
> digital network in the world. US-based company NeuLion, a market leader in
> online video delivery, whose clients include the NFL, NBA and the Premier
> League, have developed the integrated streaming service alongside UK
> company Realise who have built the club websites. The two suppliers were
> appointed by the EFL in July 2016 following a competitive procurement
> process.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 3, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Nicholas Armit  wrote:
> >
> > From the twitter link (my edits):
> >
> > Basically 148 games are presently sold 

Re: [LU] IFollow

[Rob Heath]

Brilliant!

(Thank goodness we didn't get promoted!)

A. N. Expat.

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> Not sure if this has been discussed before but it appears there is a new
> EFL sanctioned streaming service for nearly all EFL games next season for
> overseas residents. Sounds like you would subscribe to your team's service
> and have access to their games. Would be brilliant for us overseas listers.
>
> Nick
>
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Re: [LU] Fun whilst it lasted

[Rob Heath]

Yeah but my worry now is who will we lose.Bartley is my biggest
concern.

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Nick Allen  wrote:

> Whatever else happens, this will have been our most successful season and
> in the main, the most enjoyable in what...13 or 14 years. That's something
> in itself, but more importantly, something to build on.
>
> 4pts from the last 18 is a worry; that's not the sort of form you want
> going into play-offs, it's the sort of form that will pretty much ensure
> you don't get in the play offs.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 22 Apr 2017, at 19:07, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Sickening defeat and listening on Radio Leeds despite a lot of
> possession their keeper has not had to make a save in 95 minutes of
> football and that is disappointing for a team supposedly pushing for
> promotion against Burton fucking Albion.
> > Overall, I think it's been a better season but I think there has been
> more bad performances that good ones and I think some of the team are way
> short of a play off team and I think our attitude and a much improved
> defence has pulled us through. Can Monk build on this ? Not sure because he
> has been one dimensional in his play and the one up front is not a tactic
> that should be played ever week especially with a team selection like
> today. Chris Wood needs good service and with Roofe and Doukara , who for
> me are nowhere near what you would call wingers or providers we never had a
> fooking chance. It's that obvious to me. Roofe is not good enough, he
> should go back to bagging goals against Aldershot and Doukara whilst has
> more to offer cannot be asked to play as a bloody left winger.  As for
> Wood, well yes for him he's had a good season but I think his lack of pace
> and movement and ability to make things happen will always limit us going
> forward.
> > So barring a miracle it's on to next season and the season ticket
> holders get some brass back. How about that ? Any owner in history done
> that ? What a bloke ! Coupled with the freeze on season ticket sales I
> don't think any fan can complain they are not getting a good deal from the
> club. Although I expect the 'Cellino Out' brigade to find their voices
> again in the last week's of the season and pre-season. Where have they been
> ? They have been very quiet recently. Wankers.
> >
> >
> > From: "nat...@sky.com" 
> > To: Leeds List 
> > Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2017, 17:09
> > Subject: [LU] Fun whilst it lasted
> >
> > Ok that defeat means that realistically (if not yet mathematically)
> certain that we are coming 7th
> > Yes, I am gutted like everyone else but it has been looking dodgy for a
> few weeks yet.
> > Overall it has been a good season even if we were just that bit short in
> the end. It has been a season when we got a bit of pride back and fans came
> back in droves.
> > The question now is can we push on from here or will it be back to
> square one ?
> > Can we keep Monk and the big players - Wood, Bartley, Jansson, Vieira
> etc or will we lose them all to Prem clubs and be scrabbling around for
> players to replace them ?
> > Will all the fans who have returned in recent weeks, stick around and
> buy Season tickets for next year (as they would have done if we had gone
> up)?
> > Will Cellino make good on his 25% refund on this years STs or will he
> further alienate the existing loyal fans ?
> > Lots of question to be answered over the next few weeks - will this be
> the springboard for a real push next time or just remembered in years to
> come as 'so near, so far' ?
> > Whatever, it has been a season when we regained some pride and for that,
> Gary Monk and all the players I thank you.
> > dave
> >
> > Dave
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Re: [LU] 7 matches left

[Rob Heath]

If we make the playoffs, I am cautiously optimistic.

I have read comments on various fora about how, historically, once we get
into a "last 4" situation, we never end up winners. However, there are a
number of ways to look at that, not just the "we never do well" approach.

1) The "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern" scenario: if a tossed coin has come
down tails 99  times out of 99, the odds of it coming down tails the 100th
time are still even.

Or are they?

2) If the odds are that 100 tosses will yield 50 tails and 50 heads, then
if there has been no heads in 99 attempts, then the chances of the 100th
being heads are greater.

Or..if you accept that any football club will triumph
occasionally in "last 4" situations, with a probability of perhaps 3 out of
10, then the fact that Leeds have failed in their last 7 (I believe that's
the count) attempts just makes it more likely that we'll succeed this time.

Specifically, I reckon we could get past Reading in a two-legger. I didn't
think we played that badly on saturday. Their goal was a brilliant shot
from Cormorant or whatever he's called...it was way above 2nd Div
quality. I know they had a few other chances, but somehow I never felt
worried by them. If it hadn't been for that one great shot, I think we'd
have got a nice 0-0 out of it. Even with that shot, we still beat them 2-1
on aggregate. I doubt very much if Termite-ant, or whatever he is called,
can produce another shot like that. Then a final v Udders or Fulham? I
would have been very pessimistic about beating the dog botherers a few
weeks ago, but if they continue their recent wobble, they are going to be
getatable. Ditto Fulham, or even Wendiesthey've looked more
vulnerable in recent weeks.

Of course, that is all IF we can get into the bloody playoffs!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:51 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> So 7 games left and a 6 pt gap over 7th place - mathematically 15 points
> get us promoted (subject to us keeping our superior goal difference) - Even
> better Fulham have to play both Sheff Wed and Huddersfield so Wednesday and
> Fulham cannot both get 21 points
> We have 3 winnable home games - Preston, Wolves and Norwich - all teams
> with no real chance of play offs or relegation- so IF we can keep our nerve
> in front of what should be sell out home games that gives us 9 of the 15
> needed.
> So at a maximum we need to win two from Brentford, Newcastle, Burton and
> Wigan - not likely to win at Newcastle but the others are winnable -
> Brentford have nothing tangible to play for but no team is likely to just
> roll over, especially at home and especially in front of a full house. This
> makes tomorrow a massive game - 3 points and things will look very good.
> Burton and Wigan are both near the bottom for a reason , and Wigan will
> most likely be down by the time we play them ((and take over their ground)
> but how often does a relegated team suddenly start winning ? Burton will
> most likely fighting for their lives when we play them.
> Realistically I think we can win the 3 home games, lose at Newcastle and
> pick up between 2 (2 draws and a defeat) or 5 points in the other 3 games
> (win one and draw 2) - so we gain 11-14 points- this means Wednesday need
> to get at least 18 points from their last 7 games to overtake us and knock
> us out of play offs - I cannot see this happening
> All makes tomorrow night very important - us away at Brentford, Fulham
> away to Derby , and Sheff Wed away to relegated Rotherham - lets hope
> Rotherham do have that 'bounce' that relegated teams have - a win for us
> and a draw for Sheff would be a massive morale boost and put us 8 points
> above them with 6 games to go - fingers crossed ( a defeat for us and win
> for them and the gap is suddenly only 3 points with 6 to go)
> I love the fact that we have something to play for but all these 'ifs and
> buts' and maths just gets inside my head and dominates everything I do !
>
> Dave
>
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[LU] Hmmm

[Rob Heath]

I know results went brilliantly for us last weekend, but I notice that
before we take the field on Saturday, the 3 teams above us are all playing
at home vs the teams in positions 21, 22 & 23. Maybe one of 'em might be
desperate enough to manage to pull off a shock result, or at least grind
out a draw, but that's probably the most we can hope for.
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[LU] Fantastic win, but...........

[Rob Heath]

The Pontus situation sounds more than a bit iffy.

I've had a feeling all along that he was too good to be true. Why were
Torino happy to get rid? I think he himself has said that he had a bad knee
injury which they didn't think he'd come back from. But could it be some
character flaw?

I thought Cooper played OK yesterday, and I think he's had some great
moments over the years, but I think we are diminished without Jansson.

At the same time, though, I am pleased for Cooper. I think he's kept his
head down and worked hard without making a big fuss like Bamba obviously
did, and I'm glad he's getting a chance now.
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Re: [LU] The world HAS gone mad!

[Rob Heath]

No no no..I think Guardiola looks great!

No, it's the beard and the shaven sides and the ridiculous foppish mohawk
thing on top of the head which I cannot abide.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:

> You might find the shaving of head and beard like guardiola I assume you
> mean could be a necessary evil for those us us going bald
>
> You might even find some brexit voters.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 4 Mar 2017, at 15:12, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > OKthese 3 things are seemingly insane, but I suppose they could
> be
> > explained away:
> > 1. The population of Britain has been transmogrified into lemmings, and
> we
> > are all merrily tearing towards the cliff-edge of leaving the EU.
> > 2. The population of the USA has proven itself to be even more stupid
> than
> > the world thought they were.
> > 3. Men all over the world have suddenly been consumed by the
> > misapprehension that growing a ridiculous beard and then shaving the
> sides
> > and back of their head makes them look cool, whereas in fact it just
> makes
> > them look like complete tossers.
> >
> > But how do you explain this:
> > Leeds are sitting comfortably in 4th place (and the teams at # 2 and #3
> are
> > playing each other today)
> > We are on a run of 10 pts from the last 12
> > We've just won 3-1 away from home
> > That win included a (possibly) brilliant finish from our CF (who is the
> > league's top scorer)..a superbly-worked team goal...and a
> > cracking first ever LUFC goal from an exciting young Spanish winger.
> > Yet I cannot overcome a feeling of worry and dissatisfaction!
> >
> > How can everything seem so great, and yet we seem incapable of stringing
> > more than 2 passes together?
> > How can watching us win 3-1 away be such an uncomfortable and (largely)
> > joyless experience?
> > Has football suddenly been infected by Trumpism, in that, just as the
> more
> > repugnant and offensive Trump becomes, the more he seems to be popular,
> so
> > the worse Leeds seem to playe, the better become our results?
> >
> > I suppose the bottom line, as I've said on here before, is that Monk
> seems
> > to have transformed us from a team that sometimes played some really nice
> > stuff but usually lost, into a team that nearly always plays awfully but
> > usually somehow manages to win.
> >
> > And that after 50 years of watching, it looks like I know nothing about
> how
> > football works (or politics, or men's hair fashions, for that matter!)
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[LU] I love Friday night wins!

[Rob Heath]

You can contemplate the endeavours of all the other teams on Saturday with
such a gratifying sense of smugness!
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Re: [LU] Brummies 0 Leeds 1

[Rob Heath]

Bollocks!

I strongly suspect his first goal last night was unintentional, but other
than that he was excellent. Did you not see when he controlled a long ball
with his chest despite 3 defenders around him, then executed a superb
swivel and run into the box?

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:52 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> I think at the moment he is proving a lot of people wrong but I still
> think you have to look at his General game and as you say he still looks
> like a slow moving juggernaut at times and also wins very little in the air.
>  Credit to him though, he looks like his control and awareness have really
> improved and nobody can argue with his goals.
>
> > On 3 Mar 2017, at 22:25, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <
> arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >
> > Now, now Dave. I have to admit it is hard to criticize Wood. But he
> still looks like s lummox sometimes. Still, yes I may have to admit I was
> possibly wrong about him.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 3, 2017, at 3:39 PM, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Exactly - brilliant from Wood , perhaps even some on here will accept
> how good he is !Rest of the team very lax and sloppy - Janson, Berardi ,
> Hernandez all loose and error prone
> >> Get out act together and pass to a white shirt and we will be fine , if
> not .
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Simon Hart 
> >> To: John Boocock 
> >> Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" 
> >> Sent: Friday, 3 March 2017, 20:25
> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Brummies 0 Leeds 1
> >>
> >> If we could pass to our own players we'd be dangerous.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 3 March 2017 at 20:04, John Boocock  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Woodie 14
> >>>
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[LU] The world HAS gone mad!

[Rob Heath]

OKthese 3 things are seemingly insane, but I suppose they could be
explained away:
1. The population of Britain has been transmogrified into lemmings, and we
are all merrily tearing towards the cliff-edge of leaving the EU.
2. The population of the USA has proven itself to be even more stupid than
the world thought they were.
3. Men all over the world have suddenly been consumed by the
misapprehension that growing a ridiculous beard and then shaving the sides
and back of their head makes them look cool, whereas in fact it just makes
them look like complete tossers.

But how do you explain this:
Leeds are sitting comfortably in 4th place (and the teams at # 2 and #3 are
playing each other today)
We are on a run of 10 pts from the last 12
We've just won 3-1 away from home
That win included a (possibly) brilliant finish from our CF (who is the
league's top scorer)..a superbly-worked team goal...and a
cracking first ever LUFC goal from an exciting young Spanish winger.
Yet I cannot overcome a feeling of worry and dissatisfaction!

How can everything seem so great, and yet we seem incapable of stringing
more than 2 passes together?
How can watching us win 3-1 away be such an uncomfortable and (largely)
joyless experience?
Has football suddenly been infected by Trumpism, in that, just as the more
repugnant and offensive Trump becomes, the more he seems to be popular, so
the worse Leeds seem to playe, the better become our results?

I suppose the bottom line, as I've said on here before, is that Monk seems
to have transformed us from a team that sometimes played some really nice
stuff but usually lost, into a team that nearly always plays awfully but
usually somehow manages to win.

And that after 50 years of watching, it looks like I know nothing about how
football works (or politics, or men's hair fashions, for that matter!)
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Re: [LU] Authors

[Rob Heath]

Thanks Dave.

I didn't know about "Living Economics". Sounds like an oxymoron to me, but
I'm sure it's an excellent book (and I bet your sales are miles better than
I'm going to get for my little novel!)

Ex-ECA listers!

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Dave Sowden  wrote:

> Congratulations Rob!
>
> If textbooks count, there are 4 published authors on the list 2 of whom
> have Escuala Campo Alegre, Caracas, Venezuela on their CVs!
>
> Dave S
> Singapore Whites
>
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[LU] 16 years of hurt

[Rob Heath]

Good article in the YP:
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-bygones-united-furious-as-red-devils-earn-a-fortunate-point-1-8413577

I am 100% convinced that if we had not been scandalously robbed of two
points in that match, none of our subsequent disasters would have happened.
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[LU] Piss

[Rob Heath]

The offence would have carried an automatic three-match suspension, but
Robinson is now clear to play and available for selection when Blues host
his former club, promotion-chasing Leeds United, at St. Andrew's on Friday.

I can just see the scene at the Football League hearing now:

ROBINSON: I think the red card was unjustified and I would like it
rescinded please.
FL SUIT #1: But according to the referee's report, you grappled your
opponent to the floor, then pulled out a dagger that you had hidden in your
shorts, stabbed him three times, then ran over to a spot behind the goal
where you had previously secreted a hand grenade, pulled the pin and threw
it into the opposition dugout, killing 4 and seriously wounded 20 others,
including spectators.
FL SUIT #2: I think the referee was justified, in those circumstances, to
issue a red card, and I therefore uphold the 3 match -
FL SUIT #3 (whispering): Hang on. Their next match is against Leeds, and if
you've seen the table, Leeds are looking worryingly like they might
actually be getting their act together finally!
FL SUIT #2: Ahem.er, rather,em..well, I think this was just
a case of natural exuberance in the heat of a tense struggle...I
don't think there was any serious intent to er...yes, no I think we
can definitely say that the defendant is not guilty and the ban and red
card are overturned.
ALL FL SUITS: Excellentvery goodabsolutely.etc
etc.lunchtime, I thinkI hear there is a particularly
fine claret today.
FL SUIT #2 (as he waddles out of the room): Don't you think we should have
deducted a few points off Leeds for that offence?
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[LU] (Only very slightly LU) Shameless plug

[Rob Heath]

My first novel has been released today:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Rob-Heath/dp/1786292564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1488240284=8-1=a+tangerine+dream+by+rob+heath

It has a few Leeds United bits in it, but I'm sure you'll all want to buy
it anyway!

It has been described by one critic (OK, my wife) as "a rattling good read!"
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Re: [LU] Wednesday

[Rob Heath]

Not sure...the name came into my head when we first signed him, and
I've been calling him that ever since...haven't listened to The
Archers for decades, but it might have come from there?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Richard Naef <
rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:

> Bartleby? Is that a Archers reference?
>
> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Wednesday
> From: Rob Heath
> To: David Woolmer
> CC: Leeds List
>
> OK thanks.
>
> And am I right in thinking that Bartleby is on 9 (might make the cutoff and
> then might make it unscathed all the way through the putative playoffs) and
> Pontus is on 13 (probably needs to do some judicious kicking the ball away
> after the whistle or abusing refs .when we are nearly safe with
> a few games to go)?
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:53 PM, David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For 10 yellows, yes - after the QPR game (so 3 to go).
> >
> > For 15 yellows, there is no cut off, including through the play offs.
> >
> >
> > > On 26 Feb 2017, at 15:44, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> > >
> > > "We then need to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all
> their
> > > suspensions and are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games,"
> > >
> > > Isn't there some cutoff date for accumulated yellows near the end of
> the
> > > season after which they no longer = a suspension?
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:35 PM, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Exactly - just what do people expect ? We are not the Revie team that
> > beat
> > >> Southampton 7 0, or the Barcelona of 3 years ago etc , we are a SECOND
> > >> division team with SECOND division players, and they are that for a
> > >> reason,If Wood had pace, IF Sacko had an end product etc etc they
> would
> > NOT
> > >> be here - they would be at ManCity or Chelsea etc
> > >> As I said to my mates yesterday we need to look at these players by
> > >> looking at what they do well not the bits that are beyond them. Wood
> for
> > >> all his faults has got 20 goals in the league this season with 12
> games
> > to
> > >> go, Sacko scares defenders  with his pace and gives us an
> > outletJansson  &
> > >> Ayling get Leeds and seem to enjoy being here
> > >> and all of them at present are giving it 100% every single match -
> > Beradi
> > >> puts his body on the line all the time, Doukara was physically
> > shattered at
> > >> the end yesterday, Monk has a plan and they are all buying into it,
> and
> > we
> > >> keep going right to the end to hold onto points or trying to gain them
> > >> (look at the number of last minute winners). We do not crumble - look
> at
> > >> Brighton away , one down and a player short, in the past this would
> have
> > >> been 4 or 5 nil - not 2 with a penatly.For the first time in years we
> > are
> > >> capable of keeping a clean sheet and defending at corners
> > >> Yes, there are big deficiences in the team and in individual players
> BUT
> > >> we are top six and look like staying there, fans are coming back in
> > droves
> > >> and things are better than they have been for years and we have a team
> > we
> > >> can actually be proud of -so lets just ENJOY IT !!!
> > >> Dave
> > >> PS for me now we have one basic aim, staying in the top six. We then
> > need
> > >> to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all their
> suspensions
> > and
> > >> are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games, we also need
> Wood
> > to
> > >> be fit and in good form. With those 3 playing at the top of their game
> > we
> > >> can be a match for anyone in this Division and promotion can be a real
> > >> possibility - if any of those 3 are missing we may struggle
> > >>
> > >>  From: Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
> > >> To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2017, 11:09
> > >> Subject: [LU] Wednesday
> > >>
> > >> Can’t believe the people who were “down-hearted” after this one.
> Before
> > >> the match, everyone I knew “would have been happy with a point”. We
> got
> > 3.
> > >> It was a local derb

Re: [LU] Wednesday

[Rob Heath]

OK thanks.

And am I right in thinking that Bartleby is on 9 (might make the cutoff and
then might make it unscathed all the way through the putative playoffs) and
Pontus is on 13 (probably needs to do some judicious kicking the ball away
after the whistle or abusing refs .when we are nearly safe with
a few games to go)?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:53 PM, David Woolmer <davidwool...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> For 10 yellows, yes - after the QPR game (so 3 to go).
>
> For 15 yellows, there is no cut off, including through the play offs.
>
>
> > On 26 Feb 2017, at 15:44, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > "We then need to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all their
> > suspensions and are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games,"
> >
> > Isn't there some cutoff date for accumulated yellows near the end of the
> > season after which they no longer = a suspension?
> >
> >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:35 PM, nat...@sky.com <nat...@sky.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Exactly - just what do people expect ? We are not the Revie team that
> beat
> >> Southampton 7 0, or the Barcelona of 3 years ago etc , we are a SECOND
> >> division team with SECOND division players, and they are that for a
> >> reason,If Wood had pace, IF Sacko had an end product etc etc they would
> NOT
> >> be here - they would be at ManCity or Chelsea etc
> >> As I said to my mates yesterday we need to look at these players by
> >> looking at what they do well not the bits that are beyond them. Wood for
> >> all his faults has got 20 goals in the league this season with 12 games
> to
> >> go, Sacko scares defenders  with his pace and gives us an
> outletJansson  &
> >> Ayling get Leeds and seem to enjoy being here
> >> and all of them at present are giving it 100% every single match -
> Beradi
> >> puts his body on the line all the time, Doukara was physically
> shattered at
> >> the end yesterday, Monk has a plan and they are all buying into it, and
> we
> >> keep going right to the end to hold onto points or trying to gain them
> >> (look at the number of last minute winners). We do not crumble - look at
> >> Brighton away , one down and a player short, in the past this would have
> >> been 4 or 5 nil - not 2 with a penatly.For the first time in years we
> are
> >> capable of keeping a clean sheet and defending at corners
> >> Yes, there are big deficiences in the team and in individual players BUT
> >> we are top six and look like staying there, fans are coming back in
> droves
> >> and things are better than they have been for years and we have a team
> we
> >> can actually be proud of -so lets just ENJOY IT !!!
> >> Dave
> >> PS for me now we have one basic aim, staying in the top six. We then
> need
> >> to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all their suspensions
> and
> >> are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games, we also need Wood
> to
> >> be fit and in good form. With those 3 playing at the top of their game
> we
> >> can be a match for anyone in this Division and promotion can be a real
> >> possibility - if any of those 3 are missing we may struggle
> >>
> >>  From: Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>
> >> To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2017, 11:09
> >> Subject: [LU] Wednesday
> >>
> >> Can’t believe the people who were “down-hearted” after this one. Before
> >> the match, everyone I knew “would have been happy with a point”. We got
> 3.
> >> It was a local derby, they had clawed a lot of points back against us in
> >> recent weeks until they had drawn level, the weather was bad - high wind
> >> and rain - an almost full Elland Road making a hell of a noise (some of
> the
> >> young’uns with us hadn’t heard noise like it)…apart from the penalty,
> they
> >> didn’t have a shot on goal…it was tight, we maybe got lucky…it was a
> sweet
> >> pass from Breradi to Wood…if you didn’t come out of that punching the
> air
> >> shouting “get in ya bastard” then you’re dead or a SW fan.
> >>
> >> There were difficulties…Pontus really needs to stop fucking about at the
> >> back…Sacko is “fast and to the pointless”…Doukara was much the same but
> >> with less speed…Hernandez was isolated…and I lost count of our bookings…
> >>
> >> The good stuff included some inspirational last ditch defending…thank
> you
> >>

Re: [LU] Wednesday

[Rob Heath]

 "We then need to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all their
suspensions and are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games,"

Isn't there some cutoff date for accumulated yellows near the end of the
season after which they no longer = a suspension?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:35 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Exactly - just what do people expect ? We are not the Revie team that beat
> Southampton 7 0, or the Barcelona of 3 years ago etc , we are a SECOND
> division team with SECOND division players, and they are that for a
> reason,If Wood had pace, IF Sacko had an end product etc etc they would NOT
> be here - they would be at ManCity or Chelsea etc
> As I said to my mates yesterday we need to look at these players by
> looking at what they do well not the bits that are beyond them. Wood for
> all his faults has got 20 goals in the league this season with 12 games to
> go, Sacko scares defenders  with his pace and gives us an outletJansson  &
> Ayling get Leeds and seem to enjoy being here
> and all of them at present are giving it 100% every single match - Beradi
> puts his body on the line all the time, Doukara was physically shattered at
> the end yesterday, Monk has a plan and they are all buying into it, and we
> keep going right to the end to hold onto points or trying to gain them
> (look at the number of last minute winners). We do not crumble - look at
> Brighton away , one down and a player short, in the past this would have
> been 4 or 5 nil - not 2 with a penatly.For the first time in years we are
> capable of keeping a clean sheet and defending at corners
> Yes, there are big deficiences in the team and in individual players BUT
> we are top six and look like staying there, fans are coming back in droves
> and things are better than they have been for years and we have a team we
> can actually be proud of -so lets just ENJOY IT !!!
> Dave
> PS for me now we have one basic aim, staying in the top six. We then need
> to make sure that Bartley and Jansson have served all their suspensions and
> are able to play in all 3 (hopefully) play off games, we also need Wood to
> be fit and in good form. With those 3 playing at the top of their game we
> can be a match for anyone in this Division and promotion can be a real
> possibility - if any of those 3 are missing we may struggle
>
>   From: Nick 
>  To: Leeds List 
>  Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2017, 11:09
>  Subject: [LU] Wednesday
>
> Can’t believe the people who were “down-hearted” after this one. Before
> the match, everyone I knew “would have been happy with a point”. We got 3.
> It was a local derby, they had clawed a lot of points back against us in
> recent weeks until they had drawn level, the weather was bad - high wind
> and rain - an almost full Elland Road making a hell of a noise (some of the
> young’uns with us hadn’t heard noise like it)…apart from the penalty, they
> didn’t have a shot on goal…it was tight, we maybe got lucky…it was a sweet
> pass from Breradi to Wood…if you didn’t come out of that punching the air
> shouting “get in ya bastard” then you’re dead or a SW fan.
>
> There were difficulties…Pontus really needs to stop fucking about at the
> back…Sacko is “fast and to the pointless”…Doukara was much the same but
> with less speed…Hernandez was isolated…and I lost count of our bookings…
>
> The good stuff included some inspirational last ditch defending…thank you
> all the back four…great save from the penalty by Green…and Wood looking
> accomplished for 45 minutes.
>
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[LU] Thank goodness for that!

[Rob Heath]

Pontus has dispensed with that awful haircut!
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Re: [LU] Saturday

[Rob Heath]

Indeed..I'll be watching it on a livestream here in Hong Kong!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Peter Castlehouse 
wrote:

> Hey!  I can be in the pub at my 10am and not leave dusty NSW, and have 13
> hours on the piss before kick-off!   So by all means get the trolley out,
> stock it well, and toast at least one shout to ALL the ex-pats everywhere
> on the list and everywhere around the world!
> Cheers buddy!
> 2-2
> OzPete
>
> From: John Boocock [mailto:j...@boocock.net]
> Sent: Friday, 24 February 2017 8:31 PM
> To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Peter Castlehouse 
> Subject: RE: [LU] Saturday
>
> Get yersen home Pete then yer can be in the pub at 10am :-)
> Shall we get the drinks trolley out?
> Betty
> Sent from the North
> On 24 Feb 2017 09:26, Peter Castlehouse  > wrote:
> Don't forget the armchair listers from darn under, who by Satdi 11pm kick
> off our time (on the cable telly) are pissed as farts and thenceforward
> vociferously abusing the telly, the cat, the missus and the drunks walking
> down the street
>
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Re: [LU] Yikes!

[Rob Heath]

That's true!

Yeehawe've got an easy run-in!

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Doesn't that mean we have 6 games against teams in the lower half of the
> league?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > Looking at the table, I see that we have still got to play 7 of the
> current
> > top 10...that's a tough run-in.
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[LU] Yikes!

[Rob Heath]

Looking at the table, I see that we have still got to play 7 of the current
top 10...that's a tough run-in.
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[LU] Bloody hell!

[Rob Heath]

Agent McCormack falling down on the job...he's missed a pen v
Weds..twat!
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[LU] Worried about the yokels

[Rob Heath]

Good win last night, but a bit disappointing that almost all the other
results did not help us, with several late goals going in which cost us
dearly.

I must admit I am getting a bit worried about our friends from the rural
southeast. Ipswich are suddenly playing really well. Apparently it is
largely to do with Diagoraga, which is annoying. Luckily, their top scorer
is suspended for Sat. Have we included a cannot-play-against-parent-club
clause for Diagonal? No, I thought not. It is going to be a tough match.

I have often said that the cliche that "the table doesn't
lie..everybody plays everybody else by the end of the season" is
totally erroneous. There is a huge element of luck in WHEN you get to play
teams..and of course it is my belief that Leeds are always on
the wrong end of that, and always get to play teams when they are on an
upsurge. Cardiff & Briizzle were both cases in point, as I fear are Ipswich.

And then there's Norwich...looking world beaters all of a sudden.
Our penultimate game at home v them is going to be HUGE.
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[LU] Bloody hell

[Rob Heath]

I have a nasty feeling that that gunnarsson is that horrible little beardy
twat who was captain of iceland at the Euros...if so, then
today's events are even more galling.

Big test for Monk nowhe turned things round at the start of the
season, but at Swansea it seemed like once things started to go wobbly, he
had no answer.let's hope he can pick them up before tuesday.
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[LU] Monk selection dilemma

[Rob Heath]

Interesting to see the lineup this aft.

1. Left back.haven't read that Taylor is fit yet, so this may
not be an issue..but when he is, does he come straight back in?
Berardi was at fault during the buildup to Udders first goal, but
thereafter was probably our best defender. But Taylor surely provides more
going forward.

2. CM. It was hard to tell specific personnel on my blurry stream, but I
got the impression that Bridcutt had a particularly shaky game last week.
Nevertheless, i am sure he will continue there if fit (and hopefully that
was just a blip..I can't get over a lingering worry about why
successive Scumderland managers refused pointblank to pick him even though
they were shit at the time)...anyway, the question is: who should
partner him? Philips seems to have dropped down the pecking order, so it is
between Vieira & O'Kane.

3. The 3 who play across the line behind Wood. Here the possibilities are
many. Presumably, Hernandez will play, if only for his corners, even though
he had a poor game last week, but who flanks him out of The Duke, Dallas,
Roofe, Pedraza & Barrow? I have a hunch it will be Pedraza & Roofe.
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[LU] Monk charged? Outrageous.

[Rob Heath]

If you watch the footage that some Udder made from the stand, you can see
that Monk simply strolled casually into Wanger's path as the latter
galumphed back up the pitch after his outrageous pitch invasion. Monk made
exactly the same move that I make 10 times a day here in Hong Kong when I
see people walking along with their heads stuck in their
mobiles...nothing more.
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[LU] Some stats

[Rob Heath]

In a few idle moments, I looked up the points totals achieved by the 6th
place team over the last 11 seasons.

They were: 74 78 72 68 75 75 70 74 70 75 75.

That gives an average of 73.2.

We are currently on 54, with 8 home and 8 away games left.

The home games are v Cardiff, Brizzle, Weds, QPR, Brighton, PNE, Wolves &
Norwich.

If we can keep up our splendid form at Elland Roadit could be
Bring On the Wagtail time!
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Re: [LU] final signing for window ?

[Rob Heath]

Weirdly, I warched a few of Swansea"s games early in the seasonand
I really liked the look of Barrow. He reminded me somewhat of Gradel.
On 1 Feb 2017 05:31, "{broken-address} Richard Walker" <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> What a terrible signing Mowatt was for Barnsley. I think they're a decent
> team and no doubt they gave been badly weakened by thus signing.
>
>
> > On 31 Jan 2017, at 21:18, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> >
> > He seemed to have played on the right wing in Sweden (looking at youtube
> clips) but is very left footed.
> > Not sure how he and Pedraza will fit in with Monk's plans - one of them
> can replace Doukara / Dallas on the left wing but not sure where the other
> will play
> > The failure to land Fletcher or another centre forward does leave us
> light if Wood gets injured - Antonsson does not look good enough and cannot
> play on his own up front, Doukara does not score enough. That would leave
> us with Roofe who played as centre forward last season and scored a hat
> full but nothing we have seen so far leads me to think he could replace Wood
> > Having said all that i am really looking forward to seeing another two
> wingers with pace, both of proven quality, and one of whom looks like he
> really loves taking players on. Neither can play tomorrow but will be
> available for Hudds on Sunday
> > DavePS I see Mowatt has been sent off for Barnsley - looking at his
> tackle on twitter it is one of those " I got there as quick as I could" -
> Barnsley are 2 nil down as well which is good
> >
> >
> >  From: Nicholas Armit 
> > To: "nat...@sky.com" ; Leeds List 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 20:54
> > Subject: Re: [LU] final signing for window ?
> >
> > Eh looks exactly the same as the other bloke. Fast, left-footed winger.
> Do we need two of those?
> >
> >  From: "nat...@sky.com" 
> > To: Leeds List 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:47 PM
> > Subject: [LU] final signing for window ?
> >
> > Modou Barrow joins Leeds from Swansea City on loan for rest of season.
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[LU] Leeds 1 (Giles) Forest 0

[Rob Heath]

Playing Forest under the lights takes me back to one of the great nights of
my life.

1969. We had just won the league for the first time in our history with a
brilliant 0-0 draw at Anfield, and we had one game left v Forest at home. I
think the Anfield game was on the Monday and the Forest game just 2 days
later (that's how they did things in those days).although we were
already champions, 2 (yes,2!) points for a win against Forest would give us
a record number of points in a season.

And we did it, thanks to a goal by Johnny Giles, and I was there to see it.

I vaguely recall the goalI think it was an awkward cross from
the left which Giles managed to bring down in a crowded box and then hit on
the half volley into the top left hand corner.I ought to know
because I had a picture of him scoring it cut out from the YP in my
scrapbook and I must have looked at it a thousand times.
(Youngsters.that's what we did before the internet came along!)

After the game, the team paraded the trophy around a jam-packed Elland
Road.

It was a pretty crap game, but a fantastic night!

Were any other listers there that night?

P.S. I think that record still holds as the highest total until they
brought in 3 pts for a win.


P.P.S. Or perhaps it doesn'tnow I come to think of it I seem to
remember getting very cross when it was beatenpossibly by Clough's
Forest, ironically.
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Re: [LU] Barnsley

[Rob Heath]

Disappointing game, but hopefully only a blip.

The whole team were just a bit flatwe were all 5s and 6s I
would say. There weren't really any 4s or 3s, but equally no 7s or 8s.
Hernandes might have been a 4 but he went up to a 5 with his deadball
deliveries, and Bartley might just have been a 7, as I suppose Wood has to
be with 2 goals.

Anyway, the thing is...I think a top 2 finish is now out of the
question. So now the only thing that matters is to stay in the top
6.doesn't matter whether it is at 3 or at 6. So Derby beating
Reading, which I at first thought was a good thing, was actually a bad
thing. Derby, Barnsley, Fulham & NorwichI reckon those are the
4 clubs we need to keep ahead of.

We're 5 pts ahead of Derby, and 7 ahead of Barnsley.

Anybody know what is the avge number of pts needed to finish 6th over the
last 10 years or so?

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Graham Farr  wrote:

> Hard to believe this was same team that outclassed Derby.
> Bullied all night by a young team.
> No complaintsbest team won.
> Had a bad feeling about this one after the Wendies let us down big time
> last night.
> Forest Wed.and they won after just losing their best assetlike
> Barnsley.
> No easy gameshopefully this is a kick up the arse.
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Re: [LU] Lierse SK

[Rob Heath]

I could be wrong, but I think The Don tried an early version of squad
rotation and it badly misfiredI've a feeling he put some kid in
goal (John Shaw?) who never played again.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Damian Walsh 
wrote:

> I was trying to find a match report for the Sutton game in 1970 when I
> noticed a 1971 UEFA cup tie against Lierse SK.
>
> We won the first leg at their place 2 nil, but lost the return at Elland Rd
> 4 nil. One way or another, quite surprising results. I don't have any
> memories at all of this tie (there were more important things to remember
> from 71)
>
> Does anyone have any recollections, especially of how we got beaten 4 nil
> at Elland Rd?
>
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Re: [LU] question re Batty

[Rob Heath]

I think it was in a penalty shootout, for England v Argen - or perhaps not.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:22 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> For some reason my wife had a picture of David Batty appear on her phone
> and she said to me "I have seen him score, have'nt I, and he did not do
> that often"
> I said," yes you were there v Man City when he scored, and he only got 3,
> 2 against City and one v Notts County"
> However looking it up he actually got 4 goals - who was the other against
> and can anyone describe it ?
> I saw him score v City away with a long range shot before we knew he did
> not score goals, then he got the next again v City from edge of 6 yd box
> that sent the fans mental, then the Notts County one where he ran,
> unchallenged from the half way line
>
> Any takers for the other ?
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Re: [LU] Derby

[Rob Heath]

I was just thinking this after the FA Cup match..one fantastic
change Monk has effected is that we are now a team who scores from corners
whereas we used to be a team who concedes from them.

I'd love to see our stats over the last 10 yrs for goals scored from
corners and wide freekicks vs goals conceded...then compare that
stat for this season. My guess would be the 2 stats would be something like
3 - 20 and now maybe 6 - 1.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 4:43 AM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Never mind TV performance, that was one of the best for a long time. I
> confess to watching from the armchair tonight ( daughter's 10th birthday
> today).
>
> Bloody loving Vierra and Bridcutt in midfield - for me this is the new
> Giles / Bremner partnership.
>
> Up front I think Roofe, Wood and Doukara have all being exceptional and
> that's a sentence I have never written before.
>
> As for Hernandez, he's the best player we've had for a very long time.
>
> At the back, Coyle and Beradi are a match for very tricky Derby wingers
> although I expect that c*nt Ince to bag one at some point.
>
> It's just an amazing high tempo, class performance from us. Something I've
> been waiting for a very long time.
>
> And there's no doubt now that Green is still an exceptional keeper.
>
> Very, very impressed. Just a shame it's not 2 or 3 nil.
>
>
>
> > On 13 Jan 2017, at 20:09, Richard Naef 
> wrote:
> >
> > Is it just me or is this the best TV performance we've put on since fuck
> knows when?
> >
> > That's bound to jinx it!
> >
> > ttfn
> >
> > Richard
> >
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[LU] Pontus

[Rob Heath]

I know it is sacreligious to do so, but nevertheless I am going to dare to
criticise Jansson.

We know, from all the interminable gossip about his permanent transfer,
that he has now played 21 games for us. And he's picked up 10 bookings??!!
That is ridiculous!

OK, so bookings are a bit of an occupational hazard for a committed CB, and
I certainly thought that last night's booking was incredibly harsh (wasn't
even a foul in my book), but really10 in 21 games?! How many of
those were stupid, unnecessary cards? I'm pretty sure he got a yellow for
dissent over the non-penalty incident v Newcastle, and I'm sure he must
have got a yellow for launching hissen into the crowd after scoring at
Norwich.

Now he's going to miss the game v Derby who, guess what, have just signed
Nugent, who always scores against us.
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Re: [LU] 1971 FA Cup

[Rob Heath]

You've retired Dave? Well done!

We, unfortunately, have not. The kickoff time is the same here in Hong
Kong...the difference is that I will have to climb on my bike and
ride over the mountain to work right after the final whistle sounds!

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Dave Sowden <davesow...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The kick off is at 03.45 am in Singapore.
> On the other hand being newly retired means that, after the game, I shall
> simply go back to bed!
>
> I arrive in Blighty on Thursday so, all being well, I shall see the derby
> game on Friday . subject to the weather of course!
>
> Ideally we win and get a home so I get to see another game at ER. Perhaps
> a draw would be good then I get to see another game! If we lose, then I get
> to see the forest game before returning to Singapore.
>
> Did anyone watch the bin dippers game? I could only manage the first half!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 9 Jan 2017, at 12:18 PM, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> >
> > Whoa! Why did you have to drag that one up?
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if a super-motivated Div 4 team playing in front
> of
> > the tv cameras (probably for the first time in their careers some of 'em)
> > at home were to beat a pretty-much 2nd string Leeds team
> > tonight.but if they do, it will be nothing like the
> devastating
> > bombshell which that Colchester loss was.
> >
> > I hope we win tonight for many reasons, but equally it won't be too much
> of
> > a disaster if we were to lose.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:33 AM, David Smail <dsm...@dsmail.plus.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thought I'd get this off my chest to reduce the chances of a repeat.
> People
> >> of a certain vintage will recall with little prompting. 1971 FA Cup 5th
> >> Round. It was First Division  "truly" Super Leeds  up against 4th
> Division
> >> Colchester who won 3-2 on their patch. Now there's no chance of anything
> >> like that happening against high flying Cambridge - is there? Monk has
> got
> >> them up for this and the two division difference will be far too much
> for
> >> Cambridge to  take.  Of course!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I feel better for that!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [LU] 1971 FA Cup

[Rob Heath]

Whoa! Why did you have to drag that one up?

I wouldn't be surprised if a super-motivated Div 4 team playing in front of
the tv cameras (probably for the first time in their careers some of 'em)
at home were to beat a pretty-much 2nd string Leeds team
tonight.but if they do, it will be nothing like the devastating
bombshell which that Colchester loss was.

I hope we win tonight for many reasons, but equally it won't be too much of
a disaster if we were to lose.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:33 AM, David Smail  wrote:

> Thought I'd get this off my chest to reduce the chances of a repeat. People
> of a certain vintage will recall with little prompting. 1971 FA Cup 5th
> Round. It was First Division  "truly" Super Leeds  up against 4th Division
> Colchester who won 3-2 on their patch. Now there's no chance of anything
> like that happening against high flying Cambridge - is there? Monk has got
> them up for this and the two division difference will be far too much for
> Cambridge to  take.  Of course!
>
>
>
> I feel better for that!
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[LU] Charlie Taylor take note

[Rob Heath]

I see  Lewis Cook (fit again...but maybe not yet matchfit?)
couldn't even get in to B/mouth;s all-change team on sat. (He came on in
the 74th minute.)
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