Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-08 Thread Richard Naef
According to http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/r p99-111.pdf life expectancy for a UK male has gone from about 70 to about 75 in between 1981 2011 - say 7,5% increase, I can't find the exact figures at the moment but productivity per worker over the same

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread Dave Sowden
What was the results of voting on Thursday? Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist They tried to make us vote for AV, we said No, No, No.Yes vote at 32.1% and the No vote at 67.9%. ... unless the FA disciplinary committee believes there has been malpractice and awards the

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread Jim Moran
Or, 26% of the electorate said no, 14% said yes and 60% couldn't be bothered either way. How's about a referendum on compulsory voting next time? On 7 May 2011, at 08:25, Dave Sowden davesow...@hotmail.com wrote: What was the results of voting on Thursday? Dr Michael Benjamin,

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Were there Local Elections too? Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com Auditing || Quality

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread Mark Humphries
! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jim Moran Sent: 07 May 2011 08:29 To: Dave Sowden Cc: LEEDS List Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Or, 26% of the electorate said no, 14% said yes and 60% couldn't be bothered either way

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread matt
...@blueyonder.co.uk Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:09:29 To: 'Jim Moran'j...@jimmoran.co.uk; 'Dave Sowden'davesow...@hotmail.com Cc: 'LEEDS List'leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? I find compulsory voting an affront to freedom of speech. Or the freedom

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-07 Thread matt
...@jimmoran.co.uk; DaveSowdendavesow...@hotmail.com; LEEDS Listleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? There can never ever be a bar to voting no matter what the erstwhile 'good ' reason. The minute you permit anyone to ' define' eligibility then along come someone else with his

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-06 Thread Damian Walsh
As I said, invest[ment] into productive enterprise - if you are a baker, you probably won't be able to manually make bread anymore (in economically significant quantities) once your in your 70s - if though you invest in a bread making machine with some of your surplus during your productive years

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-06 Thread Damian Walsh
According to http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf life expectancy for a UK male has gone from about 70 to about 75 in between 1981 2011 - say 7,5% increase, I can't find the exact figures at the moment but productivity per worker over the same period has

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-05 Thread Richard Naef
Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). I have to say I couldn't agree less. Contributions make up a small part of the final pot., it is the predictions of growth,

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-05 Thread Michael Walsh
HEAR HEAR ! Damian Walsh wrote: PS my first IS job in 1985 was reprogramming pension schemes to allow premium holes and premium holidays so that the employers contributions did not have to be paid. Class Traitor.. :-) ___

[LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
Cool, so you are all for the coalition in their attempts to reduce the structural deficit asap I take it? Just curious like -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 03 May 2011 22:52 To: Joe Skinner Cc:

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
No because I don't think that the coalitions's plans are economically sound, like. They are ideologically driven, like, and have stifled the recovery to the extent that net growth in our economy over the last 6 months has been 0.0%. Deficit reduction is one thing, slash and burn quite another.

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
And Labour's plan to reduce the deficit wouldn't be called slash and burn? How different was their plan? But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. One could argue that Labours idea to delay the slash and burn by 1 year

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
But anyway, your analogy about lancing the boil fits very well with the structural deficit plans over 4, not 5 years. SNIP only difference was the timing of and depth of the initial cuts. trouble is the major cuts aren't really major - despite the real pain that will be caused to many

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Heath
Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to the original issue. I understood that the good old generous Royals footed the bill for the so-called wedding, and all the rest of us had to do was stump up the paltry 20 million quid for

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
Well the 'prancing around on horses' bit is pretty self explanatory as they are called the Household Cavalry. As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Peter Cass
; leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Since this long political thread has come round to the subject of The Cuts, perhaps I could link it back to the original issue. I understood that the good old generous Royals footed the bill for the so

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread MarkBursa
As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires, Lancaster Bombers and Typhoons then we are in the sh*t if someone attacks us ala 1941 We are still very much being defended by Typhoons! It's what the RAF calls a

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Tim Leslie
PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store and clearing out loads of rubbish. As for the RAF Jets, most of the planes were decommisioned ones. If we are still being defended by Spitfires,

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Sean Emmott
On 04/05/2011 11:50, Tim Leslie wrote: PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) I only saw the flypast on the news, having spent the day building a bin store Didn't work though did it? They still found him. ___ Leedslist

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
14:00 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Robert Heath; Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Maybe we can use the cake and pop tax revenue to fill this deficit you seem so concerned about? Or no, we have to offset that against the net loss to the economy of billions caused

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. PLANE SPOTTER ALERT. ;-) Ah, you need to get in touch with your inner anorak ;-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread matt
-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:57:34 To: 'Robert Heath'rhe...@mis-munich.de; 'Richard Naef'rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Collecting the extra tax revenue from those idiot tourists (from UK and overseas) who came into town

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
a shitter. Indeed. -Original Message- From: Ian Murray. [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] VSent: 04 May 2011 14:00 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Robert Heath; Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Maybe we can use the cake and pop tax revenue to fill

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Naef
I can see this is all upsetting you, so I will just say it doesn't matter what the tories (or libdems) thought about the deregulation of the financial services sector, Labour did the deed, no one else. I also don't remember reading any other chancellor in the developed world claiming

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
; Richard Naef; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? We would have been in a much worse position under the Tories 1997-2008 since they would have made vast improvements to healthcare, the schooling system, ema, minimum wage etc etc etc

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
for adopting your pedantry, the Tories did not get in. They had to form a coalition to form a government. From: mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com CC: rhe...@mis-munich.de; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: RE: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Date

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
cuts and to trust their economic nouse, and some people believe him. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Richard Naef Sent: 04 May 2011 17:25 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? eh? don't you

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread barbaraville
On 04/05/2011 14:23, Mark Humphries wrote: Either way you look at it, it is Blair/Brown/Darling to blame, not Cameron, not Clegg, not FPTP, not the Queen and not Ken Bates. And just how do you know it's not Ken Bates, Mark? Whio knows what shit the old beardy bastard is dreaming up with his

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Humphries
...@hotmail.com] Sent: 04 May 2011 17:40 To: mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: rhe...@mis-munich.de; rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: RE: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Whereas obviously you're seeing all this through the retrospectoscope. Hindsight makes prophets of us all

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Ian Murray
-computers.co.uk; leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: RE: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen? Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:55:47 +0100 The benefit of the retrospectoscope is that it’s based on cold hard facts, not mystical powers. Like the assumption Major wouldn’t have invested in public services with the economic boom just

Re: [LU] [Non LU] Good omen?

2011-05-04 Thread Damian Walsh
Final Salary pensions are perfectly sustainable if they are properly funded, and if the funding is invested into productive enterprise (for want of a better word). Today's problem with Final Salary Pensions is the funding. Public Service pensions are unfunded with the govt making guarantees out