Aaarrgh! I think I have just discovered something I didn't previously
realise about the source clipboard. I know there has been a lot of
discussion in the past about the removal of the option to add more than one
source to the clipboard - and I have been among those who are glad you can't
do
On 26/07/2011 09:14, Jan Roberts wrote:
What now bothers me is that by accident I have just discovered that all
fields with information includes any additional events, not just the vital
events of birth, death, baptism etc. So let's say I had added numerous
events to a person, including name,
It doesn't sound like it's the position of the bar icons that bothers
Jan. She used the triple bar intentionally. It was not knowing that
all used fields meant other than vital statistic fields such as
events. Now she is looking for a way to determine where she may have
applied these sources to
I think the extent to which one goes paperless is (or should be) a function
of how your brain works, the extent to which you have published your work, and
the extent to which you have arranged for (and trust) your potential survivors
to save your work. (IMO, most people will have to think
Please - let's stick to the List purposes of discussing Legacy and
Legacy add-ons.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think the extent to which one goes paperless is..
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Legacy User Group
Larry,
It seemed to me that Jenny understood the problem quite clearly, but since
there is no known way of identifying misapplied sources was suggesting a way
of drawing attention to the potential problem. Another way is to read the
Help Files where it is spelt out.
Ron Ferguson
The way I file my hard copies of documents is that I have a binder for each
TYPE of document and then I file them alphabetically. For example, I have a
binder of death certificates. He death certificate is is in one of those
see through sleeves. On the outside of the sleeve and put a large
So chastise Kristen, who originated this thread, and Michele, who responded
first, and all the others who have commented on this issue recently in threads
with other subjects, not just me, please. You could have easily responded
without quoting me by name.
IMO, my post WAS relevant to the use
I agree with you, Connie. I think it is relevant and sometimes people go
overboard on what is on topic and what isn't. The point is to talk about
things that will allow us to use Legacy to it's fullest potential.
michele
-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets
Sent: Tuesday, July 26,
My comments were not to any one person in particular but to the
pending thread in general.
And I have just recently broken into another thread stating that it
was off topic - and numerous persons continued to post anyway.
Starting a new thread about the same thing doesn't change the fact
that the
THANK YOU, Jan, for bringing this to the users attention. I obviously missed
the first discussion regarding this issue and had no idea this was happening.
I cannot for the life of me understand why this is now working as it is. To me
it is illogical that it should apply to the events. I would
On 26/07/2011 14:00, Larry McCumber wrote:
It doesn't sound like it's the position of the bar icons that bothers
Jan. She used the triple bar intentionally. It was not knowing that
all used fields meant other than vital statistic fields such as
events. Now she is looking for a way to
I would think it would depends on how one stores their images. I scan using
TIFF and PNG, and have a few downloads using PDF and GIF. This makes my
computers files rather heavy, so to speak. JPG is made light for
portability, but isn't very good for archiving. a largw collection of TIFF
images
The Tool-tip for that icon states very clearly:
Add Clipboard Source to All Used Fields and Events
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
On 26/07/2011 14:00, Larry McCumber wrote:
It doesn't
Which some would take to mean Vital events. The others are often added
later, one at a time, with perhaps more thought given as to how best to
source them. And the symbols are to the immediate left of the primary
events.
Randy
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Sherry/Support
Marc said I'm not sure how much space Legacy has to store large files.
This is like the line from Men In Black, Size does not matter. Legacy does
not care how big the files are or how many you have. The only limit is the size
of your hard drive, whether that be an internal hard drive on your
The Help file states:
Or, you can click 3-bar icon pictured here to have Legacy
automatically assign the source to every field on the Information form
that is not blank. (This also includes all events in the event
list.)
Dave works hard at writing the Help files. It would be awesome if
people
Storage [i.e. memory space] is a function of the computer disk or flash drives
used. Not Legacy itself. Legacy only stores a pathway link in the database to
the appropriate TIFF, JPG, PDF, etc., telling the program where it is to be
found and then allowing display of the document.
Gene A
I feel your pain and frustration, as I brought this up at least once
in the past. I had to open the source list for all the folks I though
I might have done this to. I may still have some hanging around, but
I think I got most of them cleaned up.
I don't know about you, but being told 'Tsk,
Jan, Mary, Randy and Jenny, and anyone else who may have corrupted
your Legacy file by use of this button,
Have you considered asking Dennis for a custom ltool. I would think it
doable and sharing the fee would probably be quite reasonable.
--
Richard Van Wasshnova
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:28:07 -0700, Richard Van Wasshnova
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you considered asking Dennis for a custom ltool. I would think it
doable and sharing the fee would probably be quite reasonable.
I have no idea how you would determine that an Event/Fact citation was
I fully realised that - hence my statement that I would normally use the single
bar icon when I have already put information in the vital event fields and was
using a source to update only some of the fields. What I didn't realise was
that ALL, included all events AS WELL. In a way I agree
I'm sorry, but having that button apply to ALL events still makes no sense to
me, and it didn't the last time this subject came up. I just decided to never
use that 3-bar icon as it can completely mess up how sources are assigned. M
-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support
If *all* events have the same source citation there might be an error?
Evert
2011/7/26 Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:28:07 -0700, Richard Van Wasshnova
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you considered asking Dennis for a custom ltool. I would think it
I think the problem is the words every field on the Information form - what
you can 'see' on that form are the primary, or vital, event fields of name,
birth date and location, baptism date and location, death date and location and
burial date and location (unless one has customised this view).
The only time I use the 3 bar thing is when I am adding a new person. For
example, let's say I am adding a new child found on a census records. I hit
the 3 bar to source the name, and date of birth. The event will already be
sourced because I set up the event on the head of household's page and
Well, then, double shame on me :-) Goes to show the truth of what my husband
used to tell me, you know what happens when you assume.
I've gone back and checked some of my entries and find events that do not carry
the same source citation as the vital events so I must have used it correctly
at
Note the information in the parentheses.(This also includes all
events in the event list.)
That's not something I added to clarify the Help topic. This what's
written *in* the Help topic.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jan Roberts
When I scan a document or picture, I do so using the highest possible
resolution. I then place the actual document in an album dedicated to
that person.
In Legacy, when I link to either a JPG or PDF copy of the scan, I
document the strorage location of the actual document. This is usually
the
A while back I noticed that Brookhaven was offering a course in Legacy.
Lu Vaccaro Bailey
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
Archived messages from old
Since that 3-bar icon is not liked and not intuitive, why wouldn't the
programmers consider changing it for a future update? Sounds like other people
will continue to have the same issue, whether new to Legacy or not. Jerry
/http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org
Sherry/Support
I find it *very* useful. Let's say you're adding a new individual
from a census record. You have not only birth info, but can also add
a census event, residence event, occupation event, maybe property
event (to show the value of personal and/or real property), schooling
(yes, the person went to
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:10:01 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
wrote:
Since that 3-bar icon is not liked and not intuitive
I like it just the way it is.
--
Dennis Kowallek (LTools)
http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools
NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use
Because, like the old multiple source clipboard and the dancing icons, as
soon as they changed it, 3 times as many users would complain about the change.
John S. AdamsHermosa Beach, CA
From: jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Source
Jerry,
Please do not assume that because some users have misunderstood the workings
of the three bar icon that others do not use daily - I know that I do.
Removing it would certainly make my work take a heck of a lot longer. Please
leave it alone.
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
I believe that we've only heard from a handful of users who don't like this
feature. It clearly states in the pop-up Tool Tip which items the source will
be added to. Likewise, the Help topic also says all events in the event list.
Let's not make changes to a feature just because a few people
I for one like the triple bar and use it exactly the way Sherry does when I add
a new person to the Legacy file. Saves a lot of clicks on an individual's
vitals and events. And I have been using Legacy since version 3.5
Gene A
From: Jerry
I would like to add my voice to those that DO like the three bar icon, and I
use it regularly. When I was learning Legacy, I made the mistake of using the
three bar icon when I shouldn't have and added sources that I didn't want to my
events. After cleaning up my mess, I learned when to use and
Don't get me wrong, I'm not *complaining* about the three bar capability - I
also find it very useful - at least I did until I realised that it adds the
source in places I didn't expect it to. I still say the Help file is not
really clear - certainly I misunderstood it. By 'all events' I
I think a cautionary note in the Help file would assist.
If there is a common problem in using Legacy that this list has
highlighted (e.g. that has difficult to retrieve consequences)then that
would be a good source for taking this step. Perhaps those who have
fallen into this trap could suggest
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:55:04 +1000, Jan Roberts
poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
And I do think it would be a good idea, and therefore even more useful, if it
only applied the source to the VISIBLE fields of VISIBLE events that happen to
contain information
I find it more useful the way it is. I
I would be one of the first to complain if they remove the 3 bar capability.
It's very handy.
bgj
-Original Message-
From: M. Brenzel [mailto:brenze...@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using Source
I read with interest today's long thread on the source clipboard and the
'three bar icon' copying the source to all used fields/events. It does
emphasize the duplication of data inherent in the current Legacy database
design. If the data is identical from one source citation to another, an
I like and use the three bar button as well, but I would make one small
suggestion: Move it down about a 1/4 on an inch so that we do not accidently
fat finger it. Or in other words click it by mistake.
Rick Merrill
Legacy User Group guidelines:
When I enter a Census record, I use the 2 icons, Copy Event to Clipboard
and Paste Event from Clipboard. I think that is a wonderful tool so much
better than copy and paste because you do not need to type the event titles
or add the source or any media attached. It copies and pastes everything.
I like it just as it is. I read the help file and used it correctly.
La Nell Shores
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:10:01 -0400, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com
wrote:
Since that 3-bar icon is not liked
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