Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/12/20 09:39, cr brassfield wrote: I wish to pick up from message below 'it was a reasonable assumption that the birth date was a month or so earlier'(than baptism). Not necessarily. Families often liked to have children baptised at the church where their family may have

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-20 Thread cr brassfield
eventually baptised with some of their half siblings from the 2nd marriage when the family moved out of London and back to the father's ancestral village. This is just one example. Carol From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-20 Thread M. Brenzel
It is interesting that you said that christening is considered to be one of those strange Catholic things. I am Roman Catholic and have never used the word. Catholics are baptized. Sent from my iPad Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-20 Thread Margaret Ullman
Folks, Look up Chrism on Wikiedia. MEU From: Kramer [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net] Sent: 19 December, 2011 8:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening In the Catholic and Lutheran denominations, it is baptism, usually done in infancy

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/12/19 09:12, cr brassfield wrote: The term 'christening' refers generally to child baptims in the Anglican/Episcopalian and Catholic churches in U.K. . So any old records would show that most ancestors would carry that term if they were from those denominations or U.K origin.

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 19/12/2011 08:09, Mike Fry wrote: Why then, do English PR records almost exclusively use the term 'baptised' or 'baptizat' in pre-17th century records? Christening is the giving of a Christian name and is generally part of the Baptismal service, at which the child is received into the

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Alan Pereira
that in the Christening notes. Alan Pereira -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 19 December 2011 10:49 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening On 19/12/2011 08:09, Mike Fry wrote: Why then, do English PR records

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Bob
On 2011-12-18 23:33, Colin Liddell wrote: I don't think Sherry meant that, what she was saying (in my view) is that there is an option to change burial to cremation if you want and this can be applied to anyone, it is not overall. Yes, I understand that. The problem is that changing an event

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/12/19 15:40, Bob wrote: Yes, I understand that. The problem is that changing an event to a totally different thing does not eliminate the need for the original unrelated event. Simply changing the word Buried to Cremated does not mean that you no longer need a Buried event.

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
-Original Message- From: Bob Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening On 2011-12-18 23:33, Colin Liddell wrote: I don't think Sherry meant that, what she was saying (in my view) is that there is an option

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread David C Abernathy
is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:56 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening -Original Message- From: Bob Sent: Monday

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread cr brassfield
From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:09:40 +0200 On 2011/12/19 09:12, cr brassfield wrote: The term 'christening' refers generally to child baptims in the Anglican/Episcopalian and Catholic

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening The correct term has always been baptised. The official church records are baptismal records. 'Christening' is purely a colloquial/slang term. Non-conformist denominations never had child baptisms so the term

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Bernhard Scholz
, December 19, 2011 6:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening The correct term has always been baptised. The official church records are baptismal records. 'Christening' is purely a colloquial/slang term. Non-conformist denominations never had child

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Jerry
. Carol From: mike...@iafrica.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:09:40 +0200 On 2011/12/19 09:12, cr brassfield wrote: The term 'christening' refers generally to child baptims in the Anglican/Episcopalian

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Bernhard Scholz
Mieswinkel [mailto:tinysea...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:45 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening I have a question that I hope can be answered by the LUG. Is there a way to put the word Baptized that is apparently defaulted to Chr

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread David C Abernathy
...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 6:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening The correct term has always been baptised. The official church records are baptismal records. 'Christening' is purely a colloquial/slang term. Non-conformist

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Kay Fordham
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening It really becomes a matter of one's religious beliefs as to whether the terms are the same. Most of the evangelical Christian churches do not use the term christening because

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Charles Apple
in the Septuagint Translation. Charles -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening It really becomes a matter of one's religious beliefs

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Here are a few sites to have a read at http://religion.adherents.com/Christianity/20-christening.html http://www.dfwx.com/baptism.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism You will find the these words do mean differently in most cultures and religions. So none

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Colin Liddell
- Original Message - From: Bob byoabm8a4h...@wowway.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening On 2011-12-18 23:33, Colin Liddell wrote: I don't think Sherry meant that, what she was saying (in my

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread M Couch
I try to think about 'why' I want to add something to help me decide where it goes. Church records (Baptisms/Christenings) are historically included in genealogy records as records of birth. Before civil registration, of births, marriages and deaths, church records were often the most

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Kramer
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:12 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening I work on following The term 'christening' refers generally to child baptims in the Anglican/Episcopalian and Catholic churches in U.K. . So any old records would show

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread Bob Vary
@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Thanks, David, for that chuckle... and the links. We Methodists are baptized as infants and confirmed as youths... never (did I use that word??) christened. And I am chuckling over the bold non-conformist and evangelical definitive

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-19 Thread cr brassfield
...@wave.co.nz To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com CC: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:52:47 +1300 I try to think about 'why' I want to add something to help me decide where it goes. Church records (Baptisms/Christenings

[LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Al Mieswinkel
I have a question that I hope can be answered by the LUG. Is there a way to put the word Baptized that is apparently defaulted to Chr and displayed in the Family View screen? Most of the hundreds of members of my family and adjunct families were Christians and baptized in the Christian Church

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Sherry/Support
It's a global change under Options Customize Data Format Term for Christening You can always keep the most frequently used term showing in the Individual's Information window and add an event for the other term - i.e., if most of your people were baptized and a few Christened, add a

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Robert E. Carneal
*I believe you are wanting to say Chr for some, Bap for some, but I didn't see a way to do that. I don't know of a way to do that. I think it is one or the other. What I would do is pick one. Then whenever you use the other one, indicate so in Notes somewhere. That's what I am doing. Would

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Erin Bradshaw
Al, Personally, I do not distinguish between chr and bap. I had a Catholic raised father that told my mother that we could be baptized as long as it was not Catholic. So to me I see it the same. I was bap. Baptist and my father and his ancestors were bap. as christened. I chose to enter the

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Bob
On 2011-12-18 21:53, Sherry/Support wrote: Or submit a suggestion to allow an either/or situation like the buried/cremate Unfortunately the Buried/Cremate situation was not implemented correctly. It is not an either/or situation since the terms refer to totally different things. Burial refers to

Re: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread Colin Liddell
] Baptism and Christening On 2011-12-18 21:53, Sherry/Support wrote: Or submit a suggestion to allow an either/or situation like the buried/cremate Unfortunately the Buried/Cremate situation was not implemented correctly. It is not an either/or situation since the terms refer to totally

RE: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening

2011-12-18 Thread cr brassfield
for other faiths or cultural practices. I am open to correction on that. Carol Brassfield From: tinysea...@cfl.rr.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Baptism and Christening Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:45:18 -0500 I have a question that I hope can be answered by the LUG