Re: [LegacyUG] CUSTOMIZE

2013-12-10 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Pierre,

It's not a BUG but a change.

Some Customise options are now Family File specific.

Do you therefore have to reset them all when you open/convert a different file?

NO.

Once you have set the options as you like, use the button at the
bottom of the Customise screen Options for Default Settings to save
your settings.
Note you can save the global and user settings separately or together.

When you open or convert another file go to this same button and this
time use the Reset to User-Defaults - and you're done.

New files will be created with these Family File specific defaults.

Some people want different defaults for different files, others
don't.  Some would like more options family file specific, others less.

Cathy

At 07:56 AM 6/12/2013, you wrote:
CUSTOMIZE
I'm testing Legacy v.8. I keep Legacy v.7.5 and I copy my rene.fdb in v.8.
I customize v.8. The conversion seems good except for CUSTOMIZE below.
Options  Customize
  3. Data Format 3.3, I check UPPERCASE ; 3.4, I check Show
 SURNAMES in uppercase letters
  8. View 8.9, I check Show the picture on each main person on the
 family and the pedigree view
and I uncheck If the is no picture...
8.11, I uncheck
When I do some changes in v.7.5, I copy my rene.fdb in v.8.
Customization I mentioned above are no longer in force.
I don't like these changes averytime I copy my rene.fdb
Is it a bug ?
Pierre Simoneau




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[LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Anne
Every time I exit Legacy I do a back up to an external hard drive. When I was 
using Legacy 7.5 it remembered my settings and automatically backed up to where 
I wanted it on the external drive.

However when I exit v8 it automatically defaults to the C/ drive for back ups 
and I have to change it to the E/ hard drive every time. I have checked the 
user manual and the help in the programme but cannot find how to set the 
default backup to the E/ hard drive.

Any suggestions please?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Susie Zada
Hi Anne,

FILE / BACKUP FILE / select name and location for Data Backup and/or Select 
Name and Location for Media Backup.

Regards ... Susie Z

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From: Anne [mailto:agdy...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 7:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

Every time I exit Legacy I do a back up to an external hard drive. When I was 
using Legacy 7.5 it remembered my settings and automatically backed up to where 
I wanted it on the external drive.

However when I exit v8 it automatically defaults to the C/ drive for back ups 
and I have to change it to the E/ hard drive every time. I have checked the 
user manual and the help in the programme but cannot find how to set the 
default backup to the E/ hard drive.

Any suggestions please?





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[LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Kim Jones
Hi,
I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
the update.

When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
version 7.5?
And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

Hope that makes sense!
Kim



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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
This feature is sadly removed.

Bert


Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
 Hi,
 I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
 the update.

 When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
 could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
 pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
 something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
 version 7.5?
 And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
 will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
 helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

 Hope that makes sense!
 Kim



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[LegacyUG] Missing media - how can I get a list of them?

2013-12-10 Thread Kathy Thompson
I noticed when I closed and backed up at the end of today's session that I
apparently have some missing media files.

I went to Options  Customise  6.2 Test all Media Folders to try and get a
list of the missing media
It tested the folders but didn't give me a list of what it couldn't find.

Now either I don't have any missing media, or something else is happening,
or I'm not in the right place to get a list of missing media.

Can someone please advise where and how to get this listing please?


And before someone suggests them, No, I do not want to use Media Relinker
or Gather Media.
I have a very specific folder structure on my computer and over 500MB of
image files, and from what I've seen of other people's comments about these
tools, while they may be handy for some, I do not have the time (or
patience) to sit and wait for Legacy to find every family history
irrelevant media file on my computer just so it can find the ones it should
have, and I don't want or need Legacy to move or copy my family history
media files to yet another folder.
All I need right now, is for Legacy to make a list of the media files it
can't find. I will then go find them and relink them manually.
Thanks



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Re: [LegacyUG] Colours (Colors)

2013-12-10 Thread Kathy Thompson
The ability to adapt colours to suit the many different types of colour
blindness was obviously a wonderful solution to an otherwise awkward
problem.
With the many different types, there was no way that one or two or even
three colour scheme was Ever going to suit everyone.
Making the colours of different parts of the different screens adaptable
and changeable is brilliant and I love it!!


On 10 December 2013 07:58, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

 FS was warned about that back while the current offering was
 still in Concept.  Clearly, there was no color-deficient
 person on the test team or the concept team or the QC team.

 Cheryl

 Bryan Pratt wrote:
  I’ve copied this to both groups - Legacy and FS.
 
  I do believe in the colour-blind problem quite seriously. In
  a universal piece of software like Legacy and Family Search,
  programmers need to give cognizance to this issue.
 
  For you non-colourblind it’s straightforward. For us it’s
  more difficult. We need bold colour differentiations, not
  wishy-washy fawns, creams, greys, pinks. I’ve changed my
  colour configurations already on both softwares. Some will
  scream at my colour mixes but at least I can see the
  differences.
  And I believe close to 10% of men (especially) are colour
  blind. It’s a sex-linked gene if any one is interested, e.g.
  my maternal grandfather was colour-blind.
 
  This just a thought. No criticism on two wonderful programs
  - now in pretty blues, reds, yellows and blacks!!
  Happy red Christmas to all.
 
  Bryan
  NZ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Anne
Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?


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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Is your external drive connected before you start Legacy?


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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From: Anne [mailto:agdy...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: December 10, 2013 05:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?





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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Susie Zada
Hi Anne,

Sorry I don't have an answer to this - I also changed the location for backup 
of both data and media and they have definitely stuck for me.  I do not backup 
to external / removable drives - I wonder if that makes a difference.  It 
sounds like it's not finding the default settings - did you move the location 
of these files?  Others might be able to make suggestions.

Regards  Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: Anne [mailto:agdy...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 9:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?





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[LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Alan Pereira
I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children that
appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of the
data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

Alan Pereira





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Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children that
 appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of the
 data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. Then
the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of the
Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread David Newton
Hi Anne

The backup locations are stored in the file Backup.usr in the folder
[YourUserDocuments]\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\Usr. It is a text file
so you can open it with Notepad.

I suggest that you examine the file before backing up, when the default
C:\ is being offered,  and then again after backing up to your external
location and see if the locations have been changed.

David


On 10/12/2013 10:52, Susie Zada wrote:
 Hi Anne,

 Sorry I don't have an answer to this - I also changed the location for backup 
 of both data and media and they have definitely stuck for me.  I do not 
 backup to external / removable drives - I wonder if that makes a difference.  
 It sounds like it's not finding the default settings - did you move the 
 location of these files?  Others might be able to make suggestions.

 Regards  Susie Z

 -Original Message-
 From: Anne [mailto:agdy...@yahoo.co.uk]
 Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 9:15 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

 Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
 back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?





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[LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Yes . A senior moment .



Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?





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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Cathy Pinner
I also used this a lot and very sad at its loss.

The best replacement I can find is to use Descendant View and set it
to only show 2 or 3 generations.
I customise the columns to show birth or baptism; death or burial;
preferred spouse

I don't find the Child Grid (if you haven't found it, right click on
a child then View - Scrolling List (grid)) a suitable replacement as,
if there are a lot of children, you can't see them all at once - and
I don't like scrolling but try it out and see if it suits you. Again,
the columns can be customised.

Cathy

  At 05:56 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
This feature is sadly removed.

Bert


Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
  Hi,
  I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
  the update.
 
  When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
  could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
  pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
  something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
  version 7.5?
  And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
  will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
  helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.
 
  Hope that makes sense!
  Kim




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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Randy Clark
Clicking options doesn't produce any action.


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also used this a lot and very sad at its loss.

 The best replacement I can find is to use Descendant View and set it
 to only show 2 or 3 generations.
 I customise the columns to show birth or baptism; death or burial;
 preferred spouse

 I don't find the Child Grid (if you haven't found it, right click on
 a child then View - Scrolling List (grid)) a suitable replacement as,
 if there are a lot of children, you can't see them all at once - and
 I don't like scrolling but try it out and see if it suits you. Again,
 the columns can be customised.

 Cathy

   At 05:56 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
 This feature is sadly removed.
 
 Bert
 
 
 Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
   Hi,
   I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
   the update.
  
   When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
   could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
   pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
   something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
   version 7.5?
   And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
   will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
   helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.
  
   Hope that makes sense!
   Kim




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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Cathy Pinner
Randy,

You'll have to be more specific.

Which option?

Cathy

At 08:59 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
Clicking options doesn't produce any action.


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Cathy Pinner
mailto:genea...@gmail.comgenea...@gmail.com wrote:
I also used this a lot and very sad at its loss.

The best replacement I can find is to use Descendant View and set it
to only show 2 or 3 generations.
I customise the columns to show birth or baptism; death or burial;
preferred spouse

I don't find the Child Grid (if you haven't found it, right click on
a child then View - Scrolling List (grid)) a suitable replacement as,
if there are a lot of children, you can't see them all at once - and
I don't like scrolling but try it out and see if it suits you. Again,
the columns can be customised.

Cathy

  At 05:56 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
 This feature is sadly removed.
 
 Bert
 
 
 Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
   Hi,
   I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
   the update.
  
   When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
   could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
   pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
   something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
   version 7.5?
   And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
   will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
   helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.
  
   Hope that makes sense!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread JV Leavitt
I notice the same thing.  the V8 program does not remember the path I
last used for my backup -- the V7 program did.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/10/2013 12:42 AM, Anne wrote:
 Every time I exit Legacy I do a back up to an external hard drive. When I was 
 using Legacy 7.5 it remembered my settings and automatically backed up to 
 where I wanted it on the external drive.

 However when I exit v8 it automatically defaults to the C/ drive for back ups 
 and I have to change it to the E/ hard drive every time. I have checked the 
 user manual and the help in the programme but cannot find how to set the 
 default backup to the E/ hard drive.

 Any suggestions please?

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Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread Gene Young
On 12/10/2013 1:20 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing 
 shortcuts?  What is supplied in the Help is very short.

 Wendy

Help  index tab  enter keyboard. This brings up 66 lines of keyboard 
shortcuts already provided to you.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Alan Pereira
Maybe legacy 8 checks to see whether the backup path is valid when Legacy is 
opened.  If not, then revert to C:\
A possibility that maybe the programmers can shed some light on.
I would have thought the path check would have been done when the backup was 
invoked.

Alan Pereira

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From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net]
Sent: 10 December 2013 13:08
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

I notice the same thing.  the V8 program does not remember the path I last used 
for my backup -- the V7 program did.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/10/2013 12:42 AM, Anne wrote:
 Every time I exit Legacy I do a back up to an external hard drive. When I was 
 using Legacy 7.5 it remembered my settings and automatically backed up to 
 where I wanted it on the external drive.

 However when I exit v8 it automatically defaults to the C/ drive for back ups 
 and I have to change it to the E/ hard drive every time. I have checked the 
 user manual and the help in the programme but cannot find how to set the 
 default backup to the E/ hard drive.

 Any suggestions please?

 Sent from my iPod


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Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread JV Leavitt
The list is short because that's all there is.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/9/2013 10:20 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these
 existing shortcuts?  What is supplied in the Help is very short.

 Wendy

 Sherry/Support said the following on 10/12/2013 6:40 p.m.:
 Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone.  The programmer told us  We had
 to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't
 trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are
 now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Dee Whitingdeema...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard
 shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart,
 along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and
 experienced this loss.  I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would
 encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a
 genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I
 can’t count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version.

 We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard
 shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern
 if it has the look but not the features.

 Hoping for an update,

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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Alan Pereira
Thanks Mike, I have submitted a suggestion for a general Option called 
Compressed Family View where
1) the Parents label can either be turned of or place on the LHS of the data 
fields
2) the Integration Feature arrows are returned to the same place as Leg7.5 and 
remove the line under {your idea}
3) the Childrens label is placed to LHS of children data fields and othe 
childrens features similarly placed on RHS of said data fields
4) remove the line under the children's data fields.

This will result in saving 4 lines and nearly bring the font size back to that 
of a similarly sized window of Legacy7.5 Family View. The Toolbars still take 
up more space that 7.5 unless you want to put up with them minimised and have 
extra mouse control (not something I enjoy with a Laptop).

Alan Pereira

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Sent: 10 December 2013 11:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children
 that appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of
 the data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. 
Then the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of 
the Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing media - how can I get a list of them?

2013-12-10 Thread David Newton
Kathy

I followed the exact same steps of Testing all media folders and checked
the Make a list of all missing media files box and the Proceed button.
L8 then gave me a list, in text form, of 27 missing media files. Each
item consisting of a one line description of where the media was
attached followed by the existing link:  full path and filename of the
media.
{Missing because I renamed a subfolder without thinking!!}

As you say, if this is empty and you have missing media then there is a
problem. Perhaps you should then try the Media Relinker as suggested by
Cathy

David

On 10/12/2013 12:59, Cathy Pinner wrote:
 Kathy,

 I think you have been misinformed.

 The Media Relinker is the easiest way to get things relinked. It is
 also the tool that will give you the list of missing media and if you
 insist, you can get the list without using it to relink them.

 The Media Relinker can be restricted to search just one drive.  It
 doesn't take that long - go and fetch a coffee while it makes the
 list. I've got a lot of meia on hte drive - many gigabytes - and it's
 finished before I get back.

 The Media Relinker does not move your media anywhere. It just helps
 you find the right file and fix the links.

 If your Media has been attached to Legacy for many many versions, you
 may have to use it to get all the media properly linked as the way of
 recording the link has changed over time and Legacy 8 is making sure
 things are properly linked the current way.

 You can, if it works for you , try checking the Media Folders at
 either Option 6.2 or View  Master Lists  Media Folders

 You can, if necessary use either the Change button there OR for many
 folders that need adjusting in the same way use Search and Replace on
 the  Lists -Media folders.

 The Gather tool doesn't open unless you open it - and it can be
 controlled in a number of ways so you don't have to lose your folder 
 structure.

 I keep my attached media in Dropbox and have for some time. However I
 found I had a handful of photos connected from elsewhere. The Gather
 tool left my Dropbox Legacy Pictures folder alone with all its
 subfolders and just gathered that handful of photos into my Dropbox
 Legacy Pictures folder and changed the links to that folder.

 To repeat: It's the Media Relinker Tool that will tell you what media
 isn't properly linked and give you  the list you want.

 Cathy

 At 05:58 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
 I noticed when I closed and backed up at the end of today's session
 that I apparently have some missing media files.

 I went to Options  Customise  6.2 Test all Media Folders to try
 and get a list of the missing media
 It tested the folders but didn't give me a list of what it couldn't find.

 Now either I don't have any missing media, or something else is
 happening, or I'm not in the right place to get a list of missing media.

 Can someone please advise where and how to get this listing please?


 And before someone suggests them, No, I do not want to use Media
 Relinker or Gather Media.
 I have a very specific folder structure on my computer and over
 500MB of image files, and from what I've seen of other people's
 comments about these tools, while they may be handy for some, I do
 not have the time (or patience) to sit and wait for Legacy to find
 every family history irrelevant media file on my computer just so it
 can find the ones it should have, and I don't want or need Legacy to
 move or copy my family history media files to yet another folder.
 All I need right now, is for Legacy to make a list of the media
 files it can't find. I will then go find them and relink them manually.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer

2013-12-10 Thread T. A.
Hi Cathy,



Thank you so much for your help!  The procedure you described is what I needed. 
 Just one question about your message; in the last sentence, what does Option 
6.2 refer to?



Todd


 From: genea...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer
 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 13:51:14 +0800

 Hi Todd,

 Legacy 8 makes it much easier to transfer from one computer to
 another but you're doing it with 7.5

 If you want to keep the data for the Picture Centre you have to
 preserve the piclist.dbm files in each of your media folders.

 The data's not a problem. Put it where you want (or restore the
 backups) and then open with Legacy.

 The media requires more handling to adjust the links.

 When you have the media where you want it, you'll find that it isn't
 showing because of the different path.

 Take a look at View  Master Lists  Media Folders and see where
 Legacy expects to find the media

 Then use Search and Replace on Lists - Media Folders to change the
 beginning of the path from the old location to the new one.

 Then in Options - Customise - Locations tab - Test all multimedia
 paths - just to make sure it's found everything.

 This can be done in Legacy 8 as well but it's best to use it to
 change the beginning of the path to [Default Media Folder]\

 Then when you change computer you just go to Option 6.2 and set the
 Default Media Folder and you're done.

 Hope that's clear,
 Cathy


 At 12:37 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote:

 I want to transfer my Legacy family file from my old computer
 (running XP) to my new computer (running Windows 7.) Legacy 7.5
 Deluxe (build 7.5.0.278) is installed on the XP computer and I have
 now installed Legacy Deluxe (same version and build) on the Win 7
 computer. I have some questions about the effect of differing
 directory paths on these two computers and about how to include the
 Picture Center information in the transfer of the multimedia files
 (e.g., picture captions and dates in the entered in the Picture List
 Tab.)?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
 urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /
 
 
 
 The two computers are networked together on a LAN with file sharing
 enabled, so file transfers between the two is easy and
 straightforward. The directory structure for the Legacy data files
 and multimedia files will be identical for the two computers, but
 the absolute paths to them will be different at the front end. For
 the data files, the paths are:
 
 
 
 XP computer:
 
 C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My Documents\Legacy-7\Data\,
 
 
 
 Win 7 Computer:
 
 C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Data\,
 
 
 
 where Username-on-XP and Username-on-Win7 are different.
 
 
 
 For multimedia files, an example for photos of people is
 
 
 
 XP computer:
 
 C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My
 Documents\Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\,
 
 
 
 Win 7 computer:
 
 C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\.
 
 
 
 I think I understand how to transfer the data files from old to new
 computer (backup the data files on the XP computer, copy the
 resultant zipped file to the Data directory on the Win 7 computer,
 and then restore it from there on that computer.) However, I am
 uncertain about how to transfer the associated multimedia files in
 such a way as to preserve/include the information (e.g., captions
 and dates) that appears in the Picture List Tab of the Picture
 Center (i.e., the PicList.dbm files that are located in each of the
 multimedia folders - in my case, there are a total of 98 PicList.dbm
 files corresponding to different groups/directories of multimedia files.)
 
 
 
 So my questions, restated here, are:
 
 
 
 -- Are the differing path front ends a complication in the transfer
 of the data and multimedia files?
 
 
 
 -- How can I ensure that the Picture Center (Picture List Tab)
 information gets included in the transfer?
 
 
 
 Any help will be appreciated!
 
 
 
 Todd
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RE: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer

2013-12-10 Thread Cathy Pinner
Hi Todd,

The Options Ribbon - Customise - all the options now have a number.
Sorry I now tend to refer to them by shorthand
Option 6.2 means Options Ribbon - Customise - Choose 6.Locations in
the side panel then look for 6.2.

I'm sure we'll all develop a shorthand - maybe just the number or is
Customise 6.2 clearer?

One of the great innovations in Legacy 8 in my opinion. So much
easier than referring to a tab and then describing where on the tab
to find the particular option that needs to be set.

Cathy

At 09:57 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
Hi Cathy,

Thank you so much for your help!  The procedure you described is
what I needed.  Just one question about your message; in the last
sentence, what does Option 6.2 refer to?

Todd

  From: genea...@gmail.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer
  Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 13:51:14 +0800
 
  Hi Todd,
 
  Legacy 8 makes it much easier to transfer from one computer to
  another but you're doing it with 7.5
 
  If you want to keep the data for the Picture Centre you have to
  preserve the piclist.dbm files in each of your media folders.
 
  The data's not a problem. Put it where you want (or restore the
  backups) and then open with Legacy.
 
  The media requires more handling to adjust the links.
 
  When you have the media where you want it, you'll find that it isn't
  showing because of the different path.
 
  Take a look at View  Master Lists  Media Folders and see where
  Legacy expects to find the media
 
  Then use Search and Replace on Lists - Media Folders to change the
  beginning of the path from the old location to the new one.
 
  Then in Options - Customise - Locations tab - Test all multimedia
  paths - just to make sure it's found everything.
 
  This can be done in Legacy 8 as well but it's best to use it to
  change the beginning of the path to [Default Media Folder]\
 
  Then when you change computer you just go to Option 6.2 and set the
  Default Media Folder and you're done.
 
  Hope that's clear,
  Cathy
 
 
  At 12:37 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote:
 
  I want to transfer my Legacy family file from my old computer
  (running XP) to my new computer (running Windows 7.) Legacy 7.5
  Deluxe (build 7.5.0.278) is installed on the XP computer and I have
  now installed Legacy Deluxe (same version and build) on the Win 7
  computer. I have some questions about the effect of differing
  directory paths on these two computers and about how to include the
  Picture Center information in the transfer of the multimedia files
  (e.g., picture captions and dates in the entered in the Picture List
  Tab.)?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
  urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /
  
  
  
  The two computers are networked together on a LAN with file sharing
  enabled, so file transfers between the two is easy and
  straightforward. The directory structure for the Legacy data files
  and multimedia files will be identical for the two computers, but
  the absolute paths to them will be different at the front end. For
  the data files, the paths are:
  
  
  
  XP computer:
  
  C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My Documents\Legacy-7\Data\,
  
  
  
  Win 7 Computer:
  
  C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Data\,
  
  
  
  where Username-on-XP and Username-on-Win7 are different.
  
  
  
  For multimedia files, an example for photos of people is
  
  
  
  XP computer:
  
  C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My
  Documents\Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\,
  
  
  
  Win 7 computer:
  
  C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\.
  
  
  
  I think I understand how to transfer the data files from old to new
  computer (backup the data files on the XP computer, copy the
  resultant zipped file to the Data directory on the Win 7 computer,
  and then restore it from there on that computer.) However, I am
  uncertain about how to transfer the associated multimedia files in
  such a way as to preserve/include the information (e.g., captions
  and dates) that appears in the Picture List Tab of the Picture
  Center (i.e., the PicList.dbm files that are located in each of the
  multimedia folders - in my case, there are a total of 98 PicList.dbm
  files corresponding to different groups/directories of multimedia files.)
  
  
  
  So my questions, restated here, are:
  
  
  
  -- Are the differing path front ends a complication in the transfer
  of the data and multimedia files?
  
  
  
  -- How can I ensure that the Picture Center (Picture List Tab)
  information gets included in the transfer?
  
  
  
  Any help will be appreciated!
  
  
  
  Todd
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Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Brian/Support
They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living
people. In the child list the number beside the child's name will be red
for living children.

Brian
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On 10/12/2013 6:57 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 Yes . A senior moment .

 Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



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[LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Dee Whiting
From Sherry: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone.  The programmer told us
We had

to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't

trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are

now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys.


I have seen the list in the Help, but here is one I didn't notice. Can you
please tell me how to add a new, unlinked female, for example, using
keyboard shortcuts?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Brian/Support
I just ran a test with an external flash drive. I set my backup to the
flash drive. made a backup. Closed Legacy and restarted with the flash
drive still connected. My backup folder remained the external drive.

I then closed Legacy, ejected the external drive and restarted Legacy.
Now the backup reverted to C:\path.

In a third test I plugged in the external drive, set Legacy to use that
drive again then closed Legacy. I ejected the drive, started Legacy then
plugged in the external drive before telling Legacy to make a backup.
The backup location had reset to C: and was not set to the external
drive when that became available.

If you want Legacy to remember your backups to an external drive that
drive has to be connected every time you start Legacy.

Brian
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On 10/12/2013 5:14 AM, Anne wrote:
 Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
 back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?



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Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Gene Young
On 12/10/2013 10:05 AM, Dee Whiting wrote:
  From Sherry: Not all keyboard shortcuts are gone.  The programmer told us  
 We had

 to abandon all the one- and two-letter commands because we couldn't

 trap those keys anymore due to the ribbon control. All shortcuts are

 now either F-keys or Ctrl- or Alt-keys.


 I have seen the list in the Help, but here is one I didn’t notice. Can you 
 please tell me how to add a new, unlinked female, for example, using keyboard 
 shortcuts?


 From the help file:
CTRL + N Add a New, Unlinked Person. (On the Legacy Home tab, this shortcut key 
opens the Home contents in a separate browser window.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
The pop-up info on Family View was removed because you now have the
Scrolling List (grid) view for children, which can provide a *lot*
more information than the pop-up did.

Right click on the children and select View . Scrolling List (grid).
To customize fields, right click on an existing header.

The ability to show more fields of information for the children was
something that a lot of users requested.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Kim Jones transportby...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
 the update.

 When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
 could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information would
 pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed checking
 something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as it did in
 version 7.5?
 And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
 will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
 helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

 Hope that makes sense!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread singhals
Anne wrote:
 Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
 back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?

Do you unplug your external between uses?  That may matter.
  May not, too, but I've found it sometimes /does./

Cheryl



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RE: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer

2013-12-10 Thread T. A.
Thanks, Cathy.  Again, your help is much appreciated!



Todd


 From: genea...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer
 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:18:27 +0800

 Hi Todd,

 The Options Ribbon - Customise - all the options now have a number.
 Sorry I now tend to refer to them by shorthand
 Option 6.2 means Options Ribbon - Customise - Choose 6.Locations in
 the side panel then look for 6.2.

 I'm sure we'll all develop a shorthand - maybe just the number or is
 Customise 6.2 clearer?

 One of the great innovations in Legacy 8 in my opinion. So much
 easier than referring to a tab and then describing where on the tab
 to find the particular option that needs to be set.

 Cathy

 At 09:57 PM 10/12/2013, you wrote:
 Hi Cathy,
 
 Thank you so much for your help! The procedure you described is
 what I needed. Just one question about your message; in the last
 sentence, what does Option 6.2 refer to?
 
 Todd
 
   From: genea...@gmail.com
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Transfer of Legacy Data/Multimedia to New Computer
   Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 13:51:14 +0800
  
   Hi Todd,
  
   Legacy 8 makes it much easier to transfer from one computer to
   another but you're doing it with 7.5
  
   If you want to keep the data for the Picture Centre you have to
   preserve the piclist.dbm files in each of your media folders.
  
   The data's not a problem. Put it where you want (or restore the
   backups) and then open with Legacy.
  
   The media requires more handling to adjust the links.
  
   When you have the media where you want it, you'll find that it isn't
   showing because of the different path.
  
   Take a look at View  Master Lists  Media Folders and see where
   Legacy expects to find the media
  
   Then use Search and Replace on Lists - Media Folders to change the
   beginning of the path from the old location to the new one.
  
   Then in Options - Customise - Locations tab - Test all multimedia
   paths - just to make sure it's found everything.
  
   This can be done in Legacy 8 as well but it's best to use it to
   change the beginning of the path to [Default Media Folder]\
  
   Then when you change computer you just go to Option 6.2 and set the
   Default Media Folder and you're done.
  
   Hope that's clear,
   Cathy
  
  
   At 12:37 PM 9/12/2013, you wrote:
  
   I want to transfer my Legacy family file from my old computer
   (running XP) to my new computer (running Windows 7.) Legacy 7.5
   Deluxe (build 7.5.0.278) is installed on the XP computer and I have
   now installed Legacy Deluxe (same version and build) on the Win 7
   computer. I have some questions about the effect of differing
   directory paths on these two computers and about how to include the
   Picture Center information in the transfer of the multimedia files
   (e.g., picture captions and dates in the entered in the Picture List
   Tab.)?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
   urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /
   
   
   
   The two computers are networked together on a LAN with file sharing
   enabled, so file transfers between the two is easy and
   straightforward. The directory structure for the Legacy data files
   and multimedia files will be identical for the two computers, but
   the absolute paths to them will be different at the front end. For
   the data files, the paths are:
   
   
   
   XP computer:
   
   C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My Documents\Legacy-7\Data\,
   
   
   
   Win 7 Computer:
   
   C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Data\,
   
   
   
   where Username-on-XP and Username-on-Win7 are different.
   
   
   
   For multimedia files, an example for photos of people is
   
   
   
   XP computer:
   
   C:\Documents and Settings\(username-on-XP)\My
   Documents\Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\,
   
   
   
   Win 7 computer:
   
   C:\Users\(username-on-Win7)\Documents\ Legacy-7\Media\Photos\People\.
   
   
   
   I think I understand how to transfer the data files from old to new
   computer (backup the data files on the XP computer, copy the
   resultant zipped file to the Data directory on the Win 7 computer,
   and then restore it from there on that computer.) However, I am
   uncertain about how to transfer the associated multimedia files in
   such a way as to preserve/include the information (e.g., captions
   and dates) that appears in the Picture List Tab of the Picture
   Center (i.e., the PicList.dbm files that are located in each of the
   multimedia folders - in my case, there are a total of 98 PicList.dbm
   files corresponding to different groups/directories of multimedia files.)
   
   
   
   So my questions, restated here, are:
   
   
   
   -- Are the differing path front ends a complication in the transfer
   of the data and multimedia files?
   
   
   
   -- How can I ensure that the Picture Center (Picture List Tab)
   information gets 

RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Ah ... Thanks Brian ...

Apparently, I died ... I better document that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living people. In 
the child list the number beside the child's name will be red for living 
children.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 10/12/2013 6:57 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 Yes . A senior moment .

 Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?

 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Graham Love
Mine aren't, even tho I have the colour set to red.
G

-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 15:28
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Ah ... Thanks Brian ...

Apparently, I died ... I better document that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: December 10, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living people. In 
the child list the number beside the child's name will be red for living 
children.

Brian
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[LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread John Roose
I appreciate the new problems icons, and what is found. I have one family
line that had numerous children with gaps of more than 36 months. On the
icon I right click, go to gaps tab, check exclude Warn if a child was born
more than 36 months after previous child, click save. Sometimes the icon
disappears immediately, sometimes I have to navigate elsewhere and come
back and it is gone - no problem. However, many times it either does not go
away or it returns when I again go to the screen.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any thoughts?

I do not want to globally remove this warning.

Thanx.  John
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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll using the 
mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need to check or is that 
a delux feature?

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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

The pop-up info on Family View was removed because you now have the Scrolling 
List (grid) view for children, which can provide a *lot* more information than 
the pop-up did.

Right click on the children and select View . Scrolling List (grid).
To customize fields, right click on an existing header.

The ability to show more fields of information for the children was something 
that a lot of users requested.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree








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Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Dan Toshack
Yes; I have the same problem when setting the children on order

Dan

From: John Roose
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

I appreciate the new problems icons, and what is found. I have one family line 
that had numerous children with gaps of more than 36 months. On the icon I 
right click, go to gaps tab, check exclude Warn if a child was born more than 
36 months after previous child, click save. Sometimes the icon disappears 
immediately, sometimes I have to navigate elsewhere and come back and it is 
gone - no problem. However, many times it either does not go away or it returns 
when I again go to the screen.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any thoughts?

I do not want to globally remove this warning.

Thanx.  John
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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Cheryl Rothwell
Very neat!


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 The pop-up info on Family View was removed because you now have the
 Scrolling List (grid) view for children, which can provide a *lot*
 more information than the pop-up did.

 Right click on the children and select View . Scrolling List (grid).
 To customize fields, right click on an existing header.

 The ability to show more fields of information for the children was
 something that a lot of users requested.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree




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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Anne
Thanks Brian and everyone who replied. At least I do a backup every time I use 
Legacy!

Sent from my iPod

On 10 Dec 2013, at 15:15, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 I just ran a test with an external flash drive. I set my backup to the
 flash drive. made a backup. Closed Legacy and restarted with the flash
 drive still connected. My backup folder remained the external drive.

 I then closed Legacy, ejected the external drive and restarted Legacy.
 Now the backup reverted to C:\path.

 In a third test I plugged in the external drive, set Legacy to use that
 drive again then closed Legacy. I ejected the drive, started Legacy then
 plugged in the external drive before telling Legacy to make a backup.
 The backup location had reset to C: and was not set to the external
 drive when that became available.

 If you want Legacy to remember your backups to an external drive that
 drive has to be connected every time you start Legacy.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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 On 10/12/2013 5:14 AM, Anne wrote:
 Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
Yes - did you click on the list?  Legacy doesn't start scrolling just
by hovering over a list - you need to click on it.

You can also scroll with the scroll bars on the right and bottom.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote:
 After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll using 
 the mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need to check or 
 is that a delux feature?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Alan Pereira
Brian,
That must be wrong behaviour as you would only insert the backup drive when you 
wanted to use it.
You may want to use the USB connections for other devices when legacy is 
connected.

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 15:16
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

I just ran a test with an external flash drive. I set my backup to the flash 
drive. made a backup. Closed Legacy and restarted with the flash drive still 
connected. My backup folder remained the external drive.

I then closed Legacy, ejected the external drive and restarted Legacy.
Now the backup reverted to C:\path.

In a third test I plugged in the external drive, set Legacy to use that drive 
again then closed Legacy. I ejected the drive, started Legacy then plugged in 
the external drive before telling Legacy to make a backup.
The backup location had reset to C: and was not set to the external drive when 
that became available.

If you want Legacy to remember your backups to an external drive that drive has 
to be connected every time you start Legacy.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 10/12/2013 5:14 AM, Anne wrote:
 Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
 back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual
Information window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
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Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/12/10 18:27, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

 After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll using
 the mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need to check or
 is that a delux feature?

No. Legacy doesn't know about mouse wheels :-)

--
Regards,
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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread William Boswell
I agree with you, Don.  I have several email sources that I have to rely on the 
person who transcribed documents and hope they didn't add typos to it.  I 
prefer to have a real source so I can transcribe it myself, but sometimes 
they're just not available.  It's better to try to find a document you can read 
and transcribe yourself.  I also transcribe all census records I find because 
many times whoever did the transcription didn't do a very good job.



If you have any ancestors from the Washington, DC area, they have a great 
resource called the DC Archives, operated by the DC government, where you can 
get all kinds of documents and they'll even send them via email for free.  If 
the quality is bad, they'll send them to you in the mail (also free).  Their 
vital records office used to be terrible.  They would charge you for documents 
then tell you they couldn't find it.



Bill Boswell



From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Kirsty,

I source what I, myself, know. In this case, the source of your evidence is the 
person who supplied the info. I would note where you might find the original, 
so that you or another researcher could more easily view it first-hand. But you 
did not personally view the source document. You aren’t even sure that the 
person supplying it did. For me, a source documents the source of the 
information that I used to reach a conclusion. Everything else goes into 
determining the quality of that source. For some facts, I may not want to have 
better sources. I may not be able to justify the expense, or maybe a better 
quality source doesn’t exist. So, for my purposes, the source is what I used, 
not what I could have used. The ‘coulda, shoulda, woulda goes into notes.

Don






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Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
My backup drive is always connected.  I have automatic backups of my
computer and I don't want to forget about plugging it in.  It doesn't
cause any problems to always be there.

We did have problems when Legacy was remembering an external drive
that wasn't connected.  I'm glad it's change!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Brian,
 That must be wrong behaviour as you would only insert the backup drive when 
 you wanted to use it.
 You may want to use the USB connections for other devices when legacy is 
 connected.

 Alan Pereira

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: 10 December 2013 15:16
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

 I just ran a test with an external flash drive. I set my backup to the flash 
 drive. made a backup. Closed Legacy and restarted with the flash drive still 
 connected. My backup folder remained the external drive.

 I then closed Legacy, ejected the external drive and restarted Legacy.
 Now the backup reverted to C:\path.

 In a third test I plugged in the external drive, set Legacy to use that drive 
 again then closed Legacy. I ejected the drive, started Legacy then plugged in 
 the external drive before telling Legacy to make a backup.
 The backup location had reset to C: and was not set to the external drive 
 when that became available.

 If you want Legacy to remember your backups to an external drive that drive 
 has to be connected every time you start Legacy.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
I agree that changes should be made to make more efficient use of the screen 
real estate in family view, but quite frankly I think the solution is to more 
or less revert to the way it was in 7.5. I don't think this would really 
compromise the new look and feel.

I think Husband and Wife need to stay on top, because that line is also used 
for tags. It's the same as 7.5 with the enhancement of showing more tags, it 
works just fine.

It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put them on 
the right of the name like they used to be.

2) Why have that blue underline to highlight the active person? Just highlight 
the name like it used to be.

Those two simple changes will free up two lines which is significant space to 
expand the font size on the five vital events below.

Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 6:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

Thanks Mike, I have submitted a suggestion for a general Option called 
Compressed Family View where
1) the Parents label can either be turned of or place on the LHS of the data 
fields
2) the Integration Feature arrows are returned to the same place as Leg7.5 and 
remove the line under {your idea}
3) the Childrens label is placed to LHS of children data fields and othe 
childrens features similarly placed on RHS of said data fields
4) remove the line under the children's data fields.

This will result in saving 4 lines and nearly bring the font size back to that 
of a similarly sized window of Legacy7.5 Family View. The Toolbars still take 
up more space that 7.5 unless you want to put up with them minimised and have 
extra mouse control (not something I enjoy with a Laptop).

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 11:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children
 that appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of
 the data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. 
Then the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of 
the Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)






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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
It does scroll ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 11:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

On 2013/12/10 18:27, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

 After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll
 using the mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need
 to check or is that a delux feature?

No. Legacy doesn't know about mouse wheels :-)

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
Something about your messages, Mike, that gmail is flagging them as
possibly phishing!

I use the scroll wheel on my mouse all the time in Legacy - you just
have to click on the list first.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2013/12/10 18:27, Rita Lynn McKale wrote:

 After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll using
 the mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need to check or
 is that a delux feature?

 No. Legacy doesn't know about mouse wheels :-)

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Sherry/Support
I was responding to Paul, pointing out that for others who may be
living but not flagged as such...

If you enter any data in a death field accidentally and back out of it
you have to make sure you change the Living indicator back to Living.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:54 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:
 I know ... My response was in jest ... I was showing up as dead ... Bringing 
 myself back to life was easier than dialing 911 ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON


 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: December 10, 2013 11:50 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

 Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
 window next to the Title Suff field.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread porter
If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have complained 
to support. Bring the feature back.

Porter Rockwell

-Original Message-
From: Bert van Kootwijk [mailto:vank...@hetnet.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

This feature is sadly removed.

Bert


Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
 Hi,
 I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
 the update.

 When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
 could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information
 would pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed
 checking something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as
 it did in version 7.5?
 And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
 will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
 helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

 Hope that makes sense!
 Kim



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread porter
We want it back.

Porter Rockwell

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

The pop-up info on Family View was removed because you now have the Scrolling 
List (grid) view for children, which can
provide a *lot* more information than the pop-up did.

Right click on the children and select View . Scrolling List (grid).
To customize fields, right click on an existing header.

The ability to show more fields of information for the children was something 
that a lot of users requested.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Kim Jones transportby...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
 the update.

 When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
 could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information
 would pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed
 checking something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as
 it did in version 7.5?
 And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
 will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
 helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

 Hope that makes sense!
 Kim



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Have a look at the scrolling list ... It's actually quite good ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: porter [mailto:porterrockw...@q.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 12:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have complained 
to support. Bring the feature back.

Porter Rockwell

-Original Message-
From: Bert van Kootwijk [mailto:vank...@hetnet.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

This feature is sadly removed.

Bert


Kim Jones schreef op 10-12-2013 10:47:
 Hi,
 I'm just wondering if this is bug on Legacy 8 or if it was stopped in
 the update.

 When on 7.5 if I was checking a certain person and they had children I
 could hover with the mouse and birth, death and other information
 would pop up, now with version 8 this does not happen, have I missed
 checking something in options or is this not happening in version 8 as
 it did in version 7.5?
 And if this is not happening with the update will it be something that
 will be happeing since it used to as I used to find that extreemly
 helpfull as I did'nt need to bring up the actuall detail on that child.

 Hope that makes sense!
 Kim



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Re: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK

2013-12-10 Thread Jo Poi
H No responses, so looks like nobody in the Uk has either received
and/or purchased one. Have to draw my own conclusions from that then.

Jo Poi

On 07 December 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jo Poi  wrote:  Has anyone received
a copy of the printed manual for v8 in the UK yet, and is it worth the
extra £18.00+ ?
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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Sebastian Masch
porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
 If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have 
 complained to support. Bring the feature back.

 Porter Rockwell


But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would
rather see they spend their man-years in fixing the new list ...
double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse
wheel etc.


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Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again--adding unlinked female

2013-12-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/12/2013 15:05, Dee Whiting wrote:
 I have seen the list in the Help, but here is one I didn’t notice. Can
 you please tell me how to add a new, unlinked female, for example, using
 keyboard shortcuts?

Ctrl+N - it's on the list in Help.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK

2013-12-10 Thread John Roose
I ordered one for delivery in the US and received an email that it was
shipped on December 3rd via 1-3 day delivery. It has not arrived yet.
Perhaps the same thing is happening to shipments to the UK???

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 H No responses, so looks like nobody in the Uk has either received
 and/or purchased one.
 Have to draw my own conclusions from that then.

 Jo Poi


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 Has anyone received a copy of the printed manual for v8 in the UK yet, and
 is it worth the extra £18.00+ ?

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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
Where on the list can you click?  If you click on a child you go to that 
child's family, if click in the blank area on the top you get the add menu, if 
click next to full name you get to the list columns menu.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

Yes - did you click on the list?  Legacy doesn't start scrolling just by 
hovering over a list - you need to click on it.

You can also scroll with the scroll bars on the right and bottom.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote:
 After checking Scrolling List..is the list suppost to scroll using 
 the mouse wheel?  Mine doesn't.  Is there something else I need to check or 
 is that a delux feature?











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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread John B. Lisle
Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

john.


At 11:15 AM 12/10/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are
all black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting.
Option 9.2 --- Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on
panel) is set to red. Is there somewhere else I should be looking,
or something that is overriding this selection?

Paul Gray



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Sent: December-10-13 8:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Ah ... Thanks Brian ...

Apparently, I died ... I better document that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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Sent: December 10, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living
people. In the child list the number beside the child's name will be
red for living children.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 10/12/2013 6:57 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Yes . A senior moment .
 
  Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON




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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread porter
I loved the hover feature, brief info and EDIT

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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:16 AM
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upgrade to version 8

porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
 If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have 
 complained to support. Bring the feature back.

 Porter Rockwell


But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would rather see 
they spend their man-years in fixing the
new list ...
double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse wheel 
etc.


Sebastian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone
with a rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS
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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Brian
I wish they'd bring back the double-click option,
instead of single-click on children also.
I sent a suggestion, hopefully others will also.
 Brian




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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/12/2013 16:57, Sherry/Support wrote:
 I use the scroll wheel on my mouse all the time in Legacy - you just
 have to click on the list first.

It's behaving very oddly for me.

For starters, I can only get the child list to scroll at all if I have
the Mother, rather than the father, selected.

If I then click on one of the children to open their Individual Screen,
then click the Mother to return to Family View the Child list won't
scroll again unless I click on the Father and then on the Mother again.

On one occasion, scrolling the mouse caused the list to scroll from side
to side rather than up and down but I haven't found out what caused that!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Brian
I have the same problem.
Can't seem to get rid of the potential problems,
Tried all the options mentioned, still they remain.
May be a glitch?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread John Roose
Perhaps - but I've not found this in any instruction yet: if I try to
resolve the problem from the Children screen it sometimes takes,
sometimes not. But, when I open each of the children's screens (ie,
individual screen) and make the change there - it seems to be working.

Does anyone know if this is correct? If so, can you point us to an
instruction? Or is it one of those intuitive thingys?

Genealogy - - - - - it's in my blood!


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 I have the same problem.
 Can't seem to get rid of the potential problems,
 Tried all the options mentioned, still they remain.
 May be a glitch?
 Brian



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
No problem here.

As for the scrolling ... I've noticed that if you have more children than 
shown, it scrolls up and down to view the other children; otherwise it scrolls 
left and right to see more columns.


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


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From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: December 10, 2013 12:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8

On 10/12/2013 16:57, Sherry/Support wrote:
 I use the scroll wheel on my mouse all the time in Legacy - you just
 have to click on the list first.

It's behaving very oddly for me.

For starters, I can only get the child list to scroll at all if I have the 
Mother, rather than the father, selected.

If I then click on one of the children to open their Individual Screen, then 
click the Mother to return to Family View the Child list won't scroll again 
unless I click on the Father and then on the Mother again.

On one occasion, scrolling the mouse caused the list to scroll from side to 
side rather than up and down but I haven't found out what caused that!

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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/12/10 18:57, Sherry/Support wrote:

 I use the scroll wheel on my mouse all the time in Legacy - you just
 have to click on the list first.

It doesn't seem to work when panning an image around

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Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Brian
One problem I have is, on an individuals screen, at the right is the red
PP marker.
When I click it to see the problem a window opens that says, no
problems found.
Still the red marker refuses to leave.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
Thanks, John. That did it. I am alive again!

Paul Gray

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From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December-10-13 10:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

john.


At 11:15 AM 12/10/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all
black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting.
Option 9.2 --- Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on
panel) is set to red. Is there somewhere else I should be looking, or
something that is overriding this selection?

Paul Gray



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From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: December-10-13 8:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Ah ... Thanks Brian ...

Apparently, I died ... I better document that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living
people. In the child list the number beside the child's name will be
red for living children.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 10/12/2013 6:57 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Yes . A senior moment .
 
  Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON




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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Bobby Johnson
I am seeing errors in the Living Color throughout my database.  Example: I am 
dead and my twin sister who died in Dec 2012 is still living.  The radio 
buttons on the Individual info screen are properly set in both cases.  There 
are many other examples like this in my database that was moved to Legacy 8 
from Legacy 7 via the copy method (not gedcom).  What do I do to fix this?  
Option 3.9 is properly set.

By the way, Senior Moment does not describe this thread.

Bobby

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From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
You can change the subject line when you respond ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
Sent: December 10, 2013 01:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

I am seeing errors in the Living Color throughout my database.  Example: I am 
dead and my twin sister who died in Dec 2012 is still living.  The radio 
buttons on the Individual info screen are properly set in both cases.  There 
are many other examples like this in my database that was moved to Legacy 8 
from Legacy 7 via the copy method (not gedcom).  What do I do to fix this?  
Option 3.9 is properly set.

By the way, Senior Moment does not describe this thread.

Bobby

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread unique64 Riley
I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a 
quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the parents 
too.
Monique

 From: landw...@wilsen.de
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
 upgrade to version 8
 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:16:01 +0100

 porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
  If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have 
  complained to support. Bring the feature back.
 
  Porter Rockwell
 

 But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would
 rather see they spend their man-years in fixing the new list ...
 double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse
 wheel etc.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK

2013-12-10 Thread William Boswell
The bad weather in the U.S. is probably delaying shipments.



From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK



I ordered one for delivery in the US and received an email that it was shipped 
on December 3rd via 1-3 day delivery. It has not arrived yet. Perhaps the same 
thing is happening to shipments to the UK???




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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jo Poi jo...@hush.com wrote:

H No responses, so looks like nobody in the Uk has either received and/or 
purchased one.

Have to draw my own conclusions from that then.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
Oops. I spoke to soon, Jenny. Not enough testing. 7.5 does not make the font 
size any larger when the name fits on one line vs. two lines. What is different 
is that 7.5 vertically centers the name and the FS arrows in the box. Version 
8.0 aligns the name to the top of the box, and the FS arrows to the bottom of 
the box hence the different appearance.

I think centering the text leaving equal white space above and below the name 
looks a bit better, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the new 
presentation.

Paul Gray



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Sent: December-10-13 11:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK

2013-12-10 Thread Ron Bernier
I contacted sales yesterday because I had also received notification that
my order shipped on December 3.  Bryan in sales apologized for the
confusion, but told me that they had actually just started shipping orders
yesterday.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPad

On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:14 PM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

The bad weather in the U.S. is probably delaying shipments.



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*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:19 PM
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Printed manual in UK



I ordered one for delivery in the US and received an email that it was
shipped on December 3rd via 1-3 day delivery. It has not arrived yet.
Perhaps the same thing is happening to shipments to the UK???


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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Jack Earnshaw
I find that when a person is highlighted as the main person of interest, (or as 
one of the parents of a person), then the colours work OK - e.g. Husband/Wife 
is in red when they are alive and black if they are dead. But if you move them 
to the children's list, by clicking on a parent then the colour shown is 
somewhat random.
e.g. My grandmother had 10 siblings and all show correctly when they are the 
highlighted person. But as children of my gt grandparents 4 are showing as dead 
and the other 7 are shown as living - despite there being a death date for all 
11 of them in the database. Equally, I and my 3 children show on the children 
list as dead, but all very much alive on the database.


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:50
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual
Information window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Elizabeth Hatchell
I don't find it scrolls the list of children at all - I have the same
problem as Rita.  The only way to scroll is using the bar on the right-hand
end, not my mouse scroller.  I found the hover feature useful.


On 10 December 2013 19:04, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

 I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a
 quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
 parents too.
 Monique

  From: landw...@wilsen.de
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children
 in upgrade to version 8
  Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:16:01 +0100
 
  porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
   If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have
 complained to support. Bring the feature back.
  
   Porter Rockwell
  
 
  But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would
  rather see they spend their man-years in fixing the new list ...
  double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse
  wheel etc.
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Jack Earnshaw
I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
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 Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Paul Gray
The living/dead colour is reflected in the child number. The color for the sex 
of the children (default blue for male/red for female) is a separate setting.


Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 1:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Virginia Dunham
I am also in total agreement that the hovering box should be brought back.
There are many families who have more than 6 children...and on my family
view, six is the optimum amount displayed. This means I must scroll to see
the complete list of children. The convenience of the hovering box was you
could see the particulars of any child without the need to scroll...and
with the children's area set on best fit columns, the complete family
is viewable from one screen.
Please bring the hovering boxes back.
Virginia



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

 I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a
 quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
 parents too.
 Monique

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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children
 in upgrade to version 8
  Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:16:01 +0100
 
  porter schrieb am 10.12.2013 18:02:
   If enough folks voice their displeasure, we can get it back. I have
 complained to support. Bring the feature back.
  
   Porter Rockwell
  
 
  But why? With the new scrolling list it's rather redundant. I would
  rather see they spend their man-years in fixing the new list ...
  double-click instead of single-click on children, scrolling with mouse
  wheel etc.
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Living Indicator [was: Senior Moment]

2013-12-10 Thread John B. Lisle
Bobby, Paul, et al,

In my testing, I never saw a case where the Living Indicator - as
demonstrated by, in Family View, the color or the NUMBER in a child
list or the label of husband or wife - differed from the setting of
the Living radio button. I would like to see evidence of this to see
what might be triggering this.

Please be aware that, although I believe that any contents in the
death or burial fields should trigger living = no, some conditions do not.

Further, you can enter a death date which will trigger Living = no,
but removing it will not change the person back to Living = Yes.

john.

At 01:04 PM 12/10/2013, Bobby Johnson wrote:
I am seeing errors in the Living Color throughout my
database.  Example: I am dead and my twin sister who died in Dec
2012 is still living.  The radio buttons on the Individual info
screen are properly set in both cases.  There are many other
examples like this in my database that was moved to Legacy 8 from
Legacy 7 via the copy method (not gedcom).  What do I do to fix
this?  Option 3.9 is properly set.

By the way, Senior Moment does not describe this thread.

Bobby

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

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RE: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again

2013-12-10 Thread Lee Bruch
Robert: excellent idea … Legacy: could such be added?



Dee: Keyboard shortcuts in newer MS products, incl. Office, are now limited to 
those w/ Alt-, Ctrl-, and F- Keys.  Legacy has the choice of not following MS 
standards and having unintended consequences / conflicts, or following them.



From: Robert57P_gmail [mailto:robert...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] keyboard shortcuts again



Even better, a list that shows OLD SHORTCUTÂ  and NEW SHORTCUT (with n/a in 
the NEW SHORTCUT column for ones that no longer work) and what they do.Â

This should actually also be included in the HELP so it is available for us 
long-term.  I'm sure there will be some old non-working shortcuts that I will 
stumble upon weeks or months from now that I wonder why isn't this working.  
Having the old and new (and gone) all included in the list would allow me to 
explain the non-functioning shortcut (and would avoid me thinking I was going 
crazy!)

Thanks,
Bob

snip

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Dee Whiting  mailto:deema...@gmail.com 
deema...@gmail.com wrote:

I have read the thread and must add that the removal of the keyboard
shortcuts has killed my desire to buy the new version. I had it in my cart,
along with all the new CDs, but backed off when I tried the free version and
experienced this loss.  I use keyboard shortcuts all the time and would
encourage Legacy to add them back, whether the same or different. I am a
genealogy teacher and have always encouraged my students to buy Legacy. I
can’t count how many have done so. I cannot endorse the new version.

We all know that the Office ribbon has two- and three-letter keyboard
shortcuts. Please do the same for Legacy power users! A ribbon is not modern
if it has the look but not the features.

Hoping for an update,

Dee









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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Mary Moyer
The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.

Mary


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Elizabeth Hatchell 
elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:

 I don't find it scrolls the list of children at all - I have the same
 problem as Rita.  The only way to scroll is using the bar on the right-hand
 end, not my mouse scroller.  I found the hover feature useful.


 On 10 December 2013 19:04, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

 I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take
 a quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
 parents too.
 Monique





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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread Kirsty M. Haining
Don, I’m confused a bit.  If you’re looking at an image file of a document, are 
you saying that this image could be bogus because it’s not the actual paper 
document? Maybe I didn’t go to the courthouse, but I have a digital photocopy 
of the document that I am looking at.  Why is this not sufficient for “what I, 
myself, know”?



Thanks,

Kirsty

J



From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Kirsty,

I source what I, myself, know. In this case, the source of your evidence is the 
person who supplied the info. I would note where you might find the original, 
so that you or another researcher could more easily view it first-hand. But you 
did not personally view the source document. You aren’t even sure that the 
person supplying it did. For me, a source documents the source of the 
information that I used to reach a conclusion. Everything else goes into 
determining the quality of that source. For some facts, I may not want to have 
better sources. I may not be able to justify the expense, or maybe a better 
quality source doesn’t exist. So, for my purposes, the source is what I used, 
not what I could have used. The ‘coulda, shoulda, woulda goes into notes.

Don



From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 5:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Don —


Thank you for this thoughtful response. It helps clarify some issues in my mind.



It sounds like, in my specific situation, you would advocate sourcing the 
person who supplied the vital certificate rather than the entity that created 
or holds those certificates. This is opposite what Jenny was saying she does — 
in the example you used, Jenny would (if I understand her correctly) source the 
birth certificate’s issuing agency and then comment that she received the image 
of the birth certificate from Sarah Rubenstein by email who said she got it 
from her professional genealogist who visited xyz County Courthouse in the 
Summer of 2010).



The actual style of sourcing, then, seems like one of those stylistic choices 
that a genealogist will choose and then hopefully stick with consistently (like 
burial notes versus cemetery event). Your comments on “form” versus “substance” 
and the purpose being to help another person find that same information are 
also helpful.  I think I can sometimes get bogged down worrying over the 
“right” way to do something, when what’s most important is that the information 
is communicated. It seems like every year or two I’m updating the way I handle 
sources; they become more and more precise.  (And I always vow that one of 
these days I’m going to have to go back and fix the incomplete sourcing I did 
back when I was first getting started.) I felt confused about what to do 
earlier today, but now I feel more confident in the choices I’ll end up making 
for my particular sourcing situations.



Thank you for your response.



cheers,

Kirsty Haining

Seattle, WA

J




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RE: [LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy

2013-12-10 Thread Kirsty M. Haining
Thanks for your input, Cathy! Helpful considerations.



From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 9:36 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media management within Legacy



A couple of tips (or more ;-))

Decide where you want to keep the media you attach to Legacy and set this as 
your Default Media Folder - Options 6.2.
If you decide to use a number of sub-folders, set the parent folder to the 
Default Media Folder

If you use the Picture Centre, you need to move or copy your media to your 
Default folder(s) before you start attaching.

If you use the Media Gallery for each person, you'll be asked when attaching if 
you want to copy the media to the Default folder (or on the Advanced tab - to 
another folder of your choice - eg one of the sub-folders).

The Picture Centre remembers, at least in the short term, the caption etc you 
add to the photo.

If you want to attach the same photo to a number of different people with the 
Media Gallery you can copy and then paste. This also copys and pastes the 
caption etc.

The Media Galleries are easier to use. The Picture Centre is quicker if you are 
organised and have a lot of pics you want to attach in the one session. Note 
that it only handles Pictures and not other media types.

Re attaching a picture more than once to the same person - I wouldn't. And I'd 
hesitate to add it more than once to a nuclear family if it's the only pic for 
an event and therefore the preferred pic which will be included in reports - 
awfully repetitive.

Last tip - Legacy doesn't need large archive sized pics - I started off with 
screen-sized copies of my archived pics so they'd look good in a slider show 
- see View - Scrapbook if you don't know this feature of Legacy. The problem is 
that the screen now has a lot more pixels than it used to so I'm now adding 
pics a little larger but I haven't yet gone beyond 1024 pixels wide and 
probably won't. The file size gets too large for them all to be saved/backed up 
easily. I keep my attached media in Dropbox along with my Legacy backup files. 
I don't backup the media through the Legacy backup as its already backed up in 
Dropbox (and ontp external drives when I backup my computer).

Have Fun,
Cathy

At 09:27 AM 10/12/2013, you wrote:



For those of you who have scads of media files attached within Legacy and have 
created wonderful reports and charts and websites, I have a few questions about 
how you manage your media files.  Not so much on your hard disk, but more 
within Legacy itself.  (Since moving to Legacy 8 I've been taking some time to 
get re-acquainted with some of the features. Picture Center wasn't something I 
paid much attention to previously, but now I thought I'd make a more concerted 
effort to attach my thousands of media files to their appropriate persons.)  So 
here are my questions:

(1) When you have an image that relates to more than one event, do you place 
the image in multiple places?  I.e., for a birth that also discusses the 
baptism... both places?  Or only one?  Or one in birth, and others in the 
sourcing details for both events? If you have the same photo in more than one 
event, and then have photos turned on in your report option, do you like the 
results you get?

(2) Do you ever have multiple copies of an image attached to a person for any 
reason, and if so, why?  Also, does it affect the way your reports and websites 
get generated?

(3) Are there any pros and cons to attaching group photos to more than one 
individual?

(4) Is there anything about the way you've attached media files in Legacy that 
you'd wish you'd done differently?

and, finally, (5) Is there any advice you would give to someone who's just 
starting out with attaching media?

Thanks, all!

Kirsty Haining
Seattle, Washington
:-)



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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread Kirsty M. Haining
Bill —



My question isn’t about sourcing information that was given to me that is 
TRANSCRIBED information; it’s about sourcing a digital image of an actual 
document (especially since the SourceWriter prompts assume YOU are the one who 
visited the repository of the paper documents).



cheers,

Kirsty

J



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



I agree with you, Don.  I have several email sources that I have to rely on the 
person who transcribed documents and hope they didn't add typos to it.  I 
prefer to have a real source so I can transcribe it myself, but sometimes 
they're just not available.  It's better to try to find a document you can read 
and transcribe yourself.  I also transcribe all census records I find because 
many times whoever did the transcription didn't do a very good job.



If you have any ancestors from the Washington, DC area, they have a great 
resource called the DC Archives, operated by the DC government, where you can 
get all kinds of documents and they'll even send them via email for free.  If 
the quality is bad, they'll send them to you in the mail (also free).  Their 
vital records office used to be terrible.  They would charge you for documents 
then tell you they couldn't find it.



Bill Boswell




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RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Kirsty M. Haining
Brian — Have you upgraded to the latest version of Legacy?  As I mentioned to 
the list previously, HOW you clear the potential problem alert can make a 
difference. Right-click to clear didn't work, but click did. I submitted a bug 
report a while ago, but I believe this has been fixed in the latest version of 
Legacy.

cheers,
Kirsty
:-)

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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

I have the same problem.
Can't seem to get rid of the potential problems, Tried all the options 
mentioned, still they remain.
May be a glitch?
Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread William Boswell
In that case, I found original birth and death certificates in my great uncle's 
basement in DC.  Since I couldn't ask where my relatives got them because they 
were all dead, I used the same repository where I had gotten most of my birth 
and death certificates from for DC since they have all these certificates.



If you received it digitally, like from Ancestry.com, then I would use them as 
the repository.  A second repository could be wherever they got it from which 
is usually listed on Ancestry.  If it was sent to you electronically by someone 
else then I would put that person down unless you know of an official place 
where you can get the same document.  Putting down an individual isn't going to 
do much good years later when they're dead.  If it's something from a private 
collection like a scan of a bible, I would put the person down since it's 
likely this isn't something that anyone can get.



Bill Boswell



From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Bill —



My question isn’t about sourcing information that was given to me that is 
TRANSCRIBED information; it’s about sourcing a digital image of an actual 
document (especially since the SourceWriter prompts assume YOU are the one who 
visited the repository of the paper documents).



cheers,

Kirsty

J



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



I agree with you, Don.  I have several email sources that I have to rely on the 
person who transcribed documents and hope they didn't add typos to it.  I 
prefer to have a real source so I can transcribe it myself, but sometimes 
they're just not available.  It's better to try to find a document you can read 
and transcribe yourself.  I also transcribe all census records I find because 
many times whoever did the transcription didn't do a very good job.



If you have any ancestors from the Washington, DC area, they have a great 
resource called the DC Archives, operated by the DC government, where you can 
get all kinds of documents and they'll even send them via email for free.  If 
the quality is bad, they'll send them to you in the mail (also free).  Their 
vital records office used to be terrible.  They would charge you for documents 
then tell you they couldn't find it.



Bill Boswell



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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Children names in blue (male), red (female) or black (unsure).

Children numbers in red (living) or black (dead).


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk]
Sent: December 10, 2013 03:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
For those whose mouse scrollers do not work on the children list …



1.   Can you scroll in other apps like Internet Explorer?

2.   Are there more children than can be displayed at once? (Nothing to 
scroll if not)





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 04:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.



Mary



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Elizabeth Hatchell 
elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:

I don't find it scrolls the list of children at all - I have the same problem 
as Rita.  The only way to scroll is using the bar on the right-hand end, not my 
mouse scroller.  I found the hover feature useful.



On 10 December 2013 19:04, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a 
quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the parents 
too.
Monique



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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread Don Hanson
It depends upon who you want to convince. If you are doing the tree for 
yourself, you are the judge of what proof (source) you want to accept. If you 
are creating the tree for a book publisher, they will have their standards of 
proof needed. Remember, sources are like a bibliography that supports 
conclusions made in a research paper. The intended audience dictates how 
thorough you need to be. Facts can be remembered incorrectly, transcripts may 
contain typos, documents can (and are) faked. I enjoy watching shows about 
antiques and art and how they are valued. I marvel at how often things are 
faked. A photocopy of a faked document doesn’t prove that the original wasn’t 
faked. There is no way to validate it. But, for your own personal use, a 
photocopy may be perfectly acceptable. But, I have a short memory, so my source 
would be the person who supplied me with the photocopy, I would link an image 
of the photocopy and I would include a note with as many specifics as I could. 
Things that would help stimulate my memory. Unless you are researching for 
another, don’t worry about getting the sourcing to conform to anyone’s 
standards. It’s all changeable if you decide to change your methods later.

Don



From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Don, I’m confused a bit.  If you’re looking at an image file of a document, are 
you saying that this image could be bogus because it’s not the actual paper 
document? Maybe I didn’t go to the courthouse, but I have a digital photocopy 
of the document that I am looking at.  Why is this not sufficient for “what I, 
myself, know”?



Thanks,

Kirsty

J




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RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Brian
Hi Kirsty.
I'm running Legacy 8, Full Version 8.0.0.358.
I've tried, working with the potential problems feature,
the red icon in family and individual view, marking as not a problem.
When I click the red icon the screen opens to the problem,
and I mark as not a problem, the problem disappears but the red icon remains.
Some instances, after clicking the red icon, the PP list opens and says no 
problem found.
   Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

2013-12-10 Thread Jack Earnshaw
I have V8 deluxe on 2 machines and on both of them the child number is the same 
colour as the sex of the child - ie all fields are blue for boys and red for 
girls. So the living indicator isn't being applied to the child list. On one 
machine option 3.9 was switched off, but even when I turned it on it only 
applied to the main couple, not their children.

When I changed the child list view to best fit columns (option 8.5) or 3 
columns then the child number colour was set according to the living 
indicator. I changed back to a grid list and the colour of the child number 
reverted to being the child's sex.


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 20:37
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

The living/dead colour is reflected in the child number. The color for the sex 
of the children (default blue for male/red for female) is a separate setting.


Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 1:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] New Keyboard shortcuts added

2013-12-10 Thread JV Leavitt
I found it interesting to discover that there are valuable keyboard
shortcuts available, which are not yet described in the Help File. These
are mostly the very ones I've been crabbing about that I thought were
missing in version 8. They are there, but done in a different way.

I was getting ready to make a suggestion in this regard, but discovered
that my suggestion had been anticipated, and was already implemented!
When I saw in the list of Keyboard Shortcuts that the Alt + shortcuts
didn't include any with letters W, H, S, or D, I thought -- why not use
the Alt key as a replacement for the A key we had been using in version
7 for AH = Add Husband, AW = Add Wife, etc., etc., These shortcuts would
then look like this:

Alt + H   Add Husband
Alt + W  Add Wife
Alt + S   Add Son
Alt + D   Add Daughter

I'm happy again! These work fine already in version 8. They are most
valuable when entering data, as it often eliminates the need to go back
and forth between the keyboard and mouse; making it a more efficient way
to do the work.

Thank you developer folks for your keen sense of logic, and ability to
anticipate our needs. You might want to have a talk with your Help File
Editor person, however. :-) The Help File looks quite well done, really
-- I'm only speaking in jest.  It would be nice, though, if the
information about these other shortcut key combinations could be added
to the Help File for future updates.

Thanks again!

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/10/2013 5:18 AM, Gene Young wrote:
 On 12/10/2013 1:20 AM, Wendy Howard wrote:
 Perhaps a list or table could be supplied showing all of these existing 
 shortcuts?  What is supplied in the Help is very short.

 Wendy
 Help  index tab  enter keyboard. This brings up 66 lines of keyboard 
 shortcuts already provided to you.





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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Elizabeth Hatchell
In answer to C.G.O. and Mary, yes, it scrolls perfectly well with browsers,
Word, Excel etc. and I was testing it out on a family with 12 children.



On 10 December 2013 21:24, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 For those whose mouse scrollers do not work on the children list …



 1.   Can you scroll in other apps like Internet Explorer?

 2.   Are there more children than can be displayed at once? (Nothing
 to scroll if not)





 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



 *From:* Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* December 10, 2013 04:00 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over
 children in upgrade to version 8



 The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.



 Mary



 On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Elizabeth Hatchell 
 elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:

 I don't find it scrolls the list of children at all - I have the same
 problem as Rita.  The only way to scroll is using the bar on the right-hand
 end, not my mouse scroller.  I found the hover feature useful.



 On 10 December 2013 19:04, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

 I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a
 quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
 parents too.
 Monique



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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Rita Lynn McKale
The same here………..my mouse works everywhere else and the family I was working 
in has 11 children.



Rita in South Carolina



From: Elizabeth Hatchell [mailto:elizab...@hatchells.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



In answer to C.G.O. and Mary, yes, it scrolls perfectly well with browsers, 
Word, Excel etc. and I was testing it out on a family with 12 children.



On 10 December 2013 21:24, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com 
mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com  wrote:

For those whose mouse scrollers do not work on the children list …



1.   Can you scroll in other apps like Internet Explorer?

2.   Are there more children than can be displayed at once? (Nothing to 
scroll if not)





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com ]

Sent: December 10, 2013 04:00 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.



Mary






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RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

2013-12-10 Thread Kirsty M. Haining
Unfortunately, I'm out of suggestions — although it sounded quite similar, 
obviously the problem you're having isn't the same as the one I had.

-Original Message-
From: Brian [mailto:blr...@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Exclude Problems not sticking

Hi Kirsty.
I'm running Legacy 8, Full Version 8.0.0.358.
I've tried, working with the potential problems feature, the red icon in family 
and individual view, marking as not a problem.
When I click the red icon the screen opens to the problem, and I mark as not a 
problem, the problem disappears but the red icon remains.
Some instances, after clicking the red icon, the PP list opens and says no 
problem found.
   Brian





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RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Support and the programmers will need to look at this – Scrolling in List mode 
works for some but not others …





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net]
Sent: December 10, 2013 06:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



The same here………..my mouse works everywhere else and the family I was working 
in has 11 children.



Rita in South Carolina



From: Elizabeth Hatchell [mailto:elizab...@hatchells.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



In answer to C.G.O. and Mary, yes, it scrolls perfectly well with browsers, 
Word, Excel etc. and I was testing it out on a family with 12 children.



On 10 December 2013 21:24, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

For those whose mouse scrollers do not work on the children list …



1.   Can you scroll in other apps like Internet Explorer?

2.   Are there more children than can be displayed at once? (Nothing to 
scroll if not)





C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



From: Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com]

Sent: December 10, 2013 04:00 PM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in 
upgrade to version 8



The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.



Mary





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RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions

2013-12-10 Thread Lee Bruch
Don: Good rigorous protocol.

What you are recommending is much like establishing the provenance for artwork. 
You always source the last known source. Then you trace it back each step of 
the way to its origin. Tedious? Yes. But much more accurate than the sloppiness 
found in some genealogy.  And one of the delights of genealogy is being a 
careful and accurate sleuth.



From: Don Hanson [mailto:terra...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



It depends upon who you want to convince. If you are doing the tree for 
yourself, you are the judge of what proof (source) you want to accept. If you 
are creating the tree for a book publisher, they will have their standards of 
proof needed. Remember, sources are like a bibliography that supports 
conclusions made in a research paper. The intended audience dictates how 
thorough you need to be. Facts can be remembered incorrectly, transcripts may 
contain typos, documents can (and are) faked. I enjoy watching shows about 
antiques and art and how they are valued. I marvel at how often things are 
faked. A photocopy of a faked document doesn’t prove that the original wasn’t 
faked. There is no way to validate it. But, for your own personal use, a 
photocopy may be perfectly acceptable. But, I have a short memory, so my source 
would be the person who supplied me with the photocopy, I would link an image 
of the photocopy and I would include a note with as many specifics as I could. 
Things that would help stimulate my memory Unless you are researching for 
another, don’t worry about getting the sourcing to conform to anyone’s 
standards. It’s all changeable if you decide to change your methods later.

Don



From: Kirsty M. Haining [mailto:khain...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing questions



Don, I’m confused a bit.  If you’re looking at an image file of a document, are 
you saying that this image could be bogus because it’s not the actual paper 
document? Maybe I didn’t go to the courthouse, but I have a digital photocopy 
of the document that I am looking at.  Why is this not sufficient for “what I, 
myself, know”?



Thanks,

Kirsty

J









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Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over children in upgrade to version 8

2013-12-10 Thread Mary Moyer
1. Yes, I can scroll in other apps.
2. I was looking specifically at cases with more children than show on the
screen.

I originally had it set to show 2 columns and have now decided I like the 3
columns, so that takes care of most of the families with a lot of children.

Mary


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 For those whose mouse scrollers do not work on the children list …



 1.   Can you scroll in other apps like Internet Explorer?

 2.   Are there more children than can be displayed at once? (Nothing
 to scroll if not)





 C.G. Ouimet

 Kingston ON



 *From:* Mary Moyer [mailto:mgmo...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* December 10, 2013 04:00 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] no pop up information when mousing over
 children in upgrade to version 8



 The mouse scroller doesn't work for me either.



 Mary



 On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Elizabeth Hatchell 
 elizab...@hatchells.co.uk wrote:

 I don't find it scrolls the list of children at all - I have the same
 problem as Rita.  The only way to scroll is using the bar on the right-hand
 end, not my mouse scroller.  I found the hover feature useful.



 On 10 December 2013 19:04, unique64 Riley uniqu...@msn.com wrote:

 I agree to bring it back, then you can see all childen at once, and take a
 quick peek when you hover if you need to see more. It was also on the
 parents too.
 Monique



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