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Reprinted from the Jan. 25, 2001
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LUXEMBURG LIEBKNECHT:
100,000 IN BERLIN HONOR MEMORY OF COMMUNIST HEROES
By John Catalinotto
Berlin
Some 100,000 people walked
For Rad-Greens: Any movement built on anti capitalist environmentalist issues that
leaves this behind *again* will be useless and bound to fail. Make the links and make
the alliance.
-Macdonald
INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND THE FREE TRADE AREA OF THE AMERICAS: AN ALTERNATIVE
SUMMIT, CALL FOR PAPERS,
I would also like to point out that what I posted here (from another list) is also
from a subscriber to this list. In other words, if Alexander (or anyone else) would
like to take it upon him/herself to translate, you can direct your questions about
the KPRF directly to them. They have been
En relacin a [L-I] 100 000 in Berlin honor Communist heroes,
el 20 Jan 01, a las 2:55, Macdonald Stainsby dijo:
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issue of Workers World newspaper
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LUXEMBURG
I am sure we'd all want to welcome Svetlana to this list. It is very good
to
establish cordial relations with Russian leftist and working class
organisations. I
hope that she will play an active part in our discussions. When comrades
honestly
and sincerely strive to understand each other's
I and my comrades in Russia want to read Vladimir Bilenkin`s point of view
on problems disturbing us in living discussion with all other participants
of your list.
I hope, you will heed our request and correct the situation.
Comradely,
Svetlana Baiborodova
I think Vladimir was thrown off not
Nestor, I don't know that there is a scientific/ 'leninist' definition
of Social Democracy. You have pegged it with two aspects; trade
unionism and 'cooptation of the workers by the bourgeois state in an
imperialist formation'.
But can't workers be coopted by the bourgeois state outside the
Svetlana:
May be I am mistaken because of my imperfect English but, in my opinion, the
fraze from that letter "They bused illiterate blacks to the polls ", means
not that the author considers that all Negro race is illiterate, but the
indication to the fact that the operatives from the
I am sure we'd all want to welcome Svetlana to this list. It is very good
to
establish cordial relations with Russian leftist and working class
organisations. I
hope that she will play an active part in our discussions. When comrades
honestly
and sincerely strive to understand each other's
En relacin a [L-I] : [L-I] To moderators from Russia - to,
el 20 Jan 01, a las 19:36, Svetlana Baiborodova dijo:
... you have not seen, that the indicated phrase belongs not to Vladimir but to
his friend, whose letter was published on the Leninist-International list.
[...]
I agree with the
I absolutely agree with you, Svetlana. Vladimir and I have both been
deprived of our right to discuss these issues. And most importantly
still, other participants on this list have been deprived of the right
to see the issues debated.
This trigger happy attitude towards expelling people
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From: Svetlana Baiborodova [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Svetlana, neither Louis or Mark are moderators here.
I hope you stay, but Bilenkin is not- EVER- welcome here. I hope that can be clear.
No Myers, no Bilenkin. Only one Jones.
Macdonald Stainsby,
I once again call upon the moderators to cancel their expulsion off
list, of Vladimir, Owen, and Steve. It would be an act of characer
to admit the mistake, rather than compounding it. It is no sin to do
something mistakenly, and then to rectify it.
I like you Tony. But it ain't
Svetlana, neither Louis or Mark are moderators here.
I hope you stay, but Bilenkin is not- EVER- welcome here. I hope that can
be clear.
No Myers, no Bilenkin. Only one Jones.
Macdonald Stainsby,
Co-Moderator
Oh, I am sorry for my mistake. It was found that you are the boss of this
list.
Revolutions of the 20th century have been made by illiterate people.
Louis Proyect
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Far more often than by the literate, I would almost guarantee. If the revolution was
socialist, the illiteracy wasn't going to last for long.
Macdonald
Ugh. I hate the word "boss". It's sufficient grounds for suicide.
I am a co-moderator. Two women- Yoshie Furuhashi and Mine Aysen Doyran- are my
co-moderators. I speak clearly because I already know they agree to these points and
I merely received your message first. Bilenkin was dumped
strana.ru
January 19, 2001
Russian officials boycott George W. Bush's inauguration celebration in Moscow
It has become known to Strana.Ru that there is a maturing opinion among the
invited leading Russian representatives of the presidential administration
and the government to boycott the
I have many friends who are supporters of the PRD. Many Californians and
trade unionists support them. But the PRD was criticized for not supporting
the Zapatistas clearly enough. Some Mexican friends of mine state that the
leadership of the PRD were former PRI folks. Yes, I would say that
Let me see if I have all this right? Johannes wanted Vladimir off
list, with Steve and Owen off? Nestor wants Vladimir on, but Steve
and Owen off.Mark is not a list moderator, yet assures us that
certain folk shall not return.And Lou is against having people use
the word
I like you Tony. But it ain't gonna happen.
The mistake was waiting so long that all of these characters got
comfortable. Beyond
that, as far as Bilenkin goes, he was only partially removed because of his
endorsement of racist filth against US Blacks.
I am a co-moderator. Two women- Yoshie
Yeah, but it might be a pseudonym too - in the best traditions
of Lenin-Trotsky-Stalin...
Have a nice weekend,
Alexander
At 12:36 PM 1/20/2001 -0300, you wrote:
En relacin a Re: [L-I] Any translators? This from another list,
el 20 Jan 01, a las 5:46, Macdonald Stainsby dijo:
Sincerely,
There is a tendency on this list to give a highly sophisticated
explanation to often ordinary events.
The question is NOT about problems of education in the U.S.
The question is did "they" REALLY provide free transportation to
poorly educated voters to get their votes? Or did "they" NOT?
Is it
Svetlana Baiborodova wrote:
I go away, be happy!
Svyetichka, this already your 5th or 6th curtain call, are you going or staying?
Privyet,
Mark
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Mark Jones wrote:
Tony:
what about the general question of 'free speech'?Should
it be limited in a 'free society'?
This is a very interesting question. What did Lenin and/or Marx have to say about
it?
Freedom of speech refers only to the use abuse of
state power. it is irrelevant
Carrol Cox wrote:
Freedom of speech refers only to the use abuse of
state power. it is irrelevant in the present context.
Damn, and here was I hoping to drag Lenin into it somehow. You're right of course.
As ever.
Mark
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Racist Bilenkin secterian Myers had no positive business here. The decision
was made in the interest off all. There is no reason to occupy ourselves with
dead horse topics. Let's move on, comrades!!!
co-moderator
Mine
Alexander Domrin wrote:
I wonder why Svetlana is so upset because of
I wonder why Svetlana is so upset because of Bilenkin's expulsion only
and not about expulsion of Myers.
A very interesting question. Ho-hum, I suppose we shall never know, know that Svyeta
has *gone*.
Mark
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