Re: build number: what is it?

2013-11-07 Thread Matt Wilkie
So on my computer, the 1st test fails (dunno why, I'm running from bzr), Ahhh, I'm using co-located branches (attempting to lessen the cognitive load of using bzr, hg git depending on which project I'm tracking), so the last-revision file is not in the expected place. Expected:

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-11-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: @bool: always in headline. Oh! I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-11-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
@bool: always in headline. Oh! I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction. *... Matt wanders down the hall, pondering if posting a feature request for a Leo syntax checker script is a worthy endeavour * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Why is nobody on #leo?

2013-11-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: *cough*freenode runs on port 8002, which isn't blocked by my corporate firewall*cough* haha! Thanks Jake. :) Ok, this works for me (with Chatzilla): irc://chat.freenode.net:8000 ircs://chat.freenode.net:8000

Re: Leo 4.11-final released!

2013-11-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hi Edward, There's some packaging detail mismatches on pypi between the one you published[1] and the ones I have been testing[2]. What is your recipe? Are you using a different setup.py than http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~leo-editor-team/leo-editor/trunk3/view/head:/setup.py? I want to ensure I'm

build number: what is it?

2013-11-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
On startup in the log pane Leo reports the below. What does build 5020 refer to? (or supposed to refer to) It doesn't correspond to the bzr revno# (at least not on my computer). a look at bzr_version.py indicates it's built by generate_version_info, but I've no idea where/what that is. QQQ Leo

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-11-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
whups, we cross posted. :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Upgrading may help, because the setting:: @bool rst3_write_intermediate_file = True now has the default as shown. the full length rst chapter still says the default is False. -- You

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-11-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
ahh, okay, I get it now. Thanks. :) On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Brian Theado brian.the...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2013 10:55 PM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Brian Theado brian.the...@gmail.com wrote: It just displays both the css

Re: Any show-stoppers for 4.11final?

2013-11-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: If I don't hear about serious problems today, I'll release 4.11final tomorrow or Thursday. I'll wait until Friday to announce the release widely. I'll be offline thursday through monday, so the pypi package will

Re: Rev 6222 improves reformat-paragraph command

2013-11-04 Thread Matt Wilkie
Thank you for this! On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Rev 6222 contains all the old reformat-paragraph unit tests, plus 8 new ones. Please report any actual problems with this command. I probably won't be interested in complex improvements. I use

Re: I can't make Leo-Editor start in a full-screen window under openSUSU 12.1

2013-11-04 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: I **love** apps, like Leo, that install in a single tree. +1 yup, me too :) This way lies true portability. I have Leo, and all my other favourite one-tree apps, installed on Dropbox, and thereby have most of my

Re: Leo 4.11b1 released

2013-11-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM, lewis lewisn...@operamail.com wrote: C:\Python33\pythonw.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Leo-4.11-b1\launchLeo.py Try running from a command shell (note python.exe not pythonw.exe): C:\Python33\python.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Leo-4.11-b1\launchLeo.py are there

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-11-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Brian Theado brian.the...@gmail.com wrote: It just displays both the css and the html to the log pane. Out of curiosity, why to the log pane? a file would allow the result to be viewed as html in a browser, as opposed to raw text. I guess I'm not understanding

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-11-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
*“It is the obvious which is so difficult to see most of the time. People say 'It's as plain as the nose on your face.' But how much of the nose on your face can you see, unless someone holds a mirror up to you?” -- Isaac Asimov, I, Robot 1950* Ahh, The Documenting Dilemma. :) The most

Re: Bzr conflict when updating to the latest version of Leo

2013-11-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Viktor Ransmayr viktor.ransm...@gmail.comwrote: After performing a 'bzr branch lp:leo-editor' I did *not* make *any* modification beside opening the outline 'LeoDoc.leo' and clicking on the provided button 'make-sphinx' Perhaps not useful to you, but nothing

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: * Cmds-Rst_commands-rst3 (the log window said done) On my machine (Win7) if the path is invalid the log window will resemble: reading: C:\Users\Matt\Downloads\steve.leo saved: steve.leo did not create:

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: And with a good path: sorry, incomplete paste. here's the right one: saved: steve.leo wrote: d:\temp\myDocument.html.txt stylesheet not found C:\Users\Matt\Downloads\default.css @path: C:\Users\Matt\Downloads open path

Re: minibuffer command history?

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
Repeat only shows the immediately previous command (on my computer anyway), whereas I believe the request is to store and retrieve the last N commands. (at least, that's what the feature request would have been had I voiced it first :) On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Edward K. Ream

Re: Leo 4.11b1 released

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
Leo 4.11 b1 is now available at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/leo/files/Leo/ ...and a bundle has been uploaded to pypi, which can be installed with `pip install leo` Caveats: pip v1.3.1 might not find the most current pacakge, and install an older one instead. You want

Re: 13,539 downloads for Leo 4.10 final

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know what that means - if they're real end-user downloads, that's a lot, but I'm not sure what they are. I venture someone set up a scheduled mirroring task and forgot about it. More than twice an hour sounds

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-11-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
Could the rst tutorial be enhanced by providing samples of input and output? see https://github.com/leo-editor/snippets/tree/master/examples/rst-tutorial : rst-tutorial-example.leo leo-rst-tutorial-example.png myDocument.html myDocument.html.txt Probably not a permanent home for this. I'm not

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-31 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Chris George technat...@gmail.com wrote: What did you think of the other approach, of getting writers into a customized Leo with a WYSIWYG editor? I would love to have a wysiwyg mode in Leo, but think it will take someone with programming chops and the same

rich text (was Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular)

2013-10-31 Thread Matt Wilkie
QTextEdit#richTextEdit { waitaminutenow, that says richTextEdit. and the QTextEdit widget is clearly rich text in the MS-Word ooWriter sense already: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/demos-textedit.html So what exactly stops Leo from being a rich text editor already? (Technically I mean,

Re: Node types section added to cheat sheet

2013-10-31 Thread Matt Wilkie
would it be too much work to link each of the @name's to their reference page? or give an on-hover synopsis? I find myself wondering what those do (for example I've never used @chapter and don't know anything about it). On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-10-30 Thread Matt Wilkie
I'm glad it might be useful :) I did spend some time spinning my wheels trying to figure out where to place it. Cheatsheet seems like a good place. -matt On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Edward K. Ream

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-10-30 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: An expanded example from this tutorial now appears in CheatSheet.leo. The appropriate settings appear in the Startup node in CheatSheet.leo. This phrase or something like should be in the web page as well, e.g. An

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-29 Thread Matt Wilkie
Attached is my attempt to create a reference prototype .leo file and .html output from following the tutorial. I wasn't completely successful. I've not used rst in Leo before this evening. I spent an hour and change to get this far. Two things tripped me up the most: - the per-node rst settings

Re: UNL address bar?

2013-10-29 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Does anything like a UNL address bar exist for Leo? Akin to an address bar in a web browser, where you could paste UNLs into it, and it would focus on said UNL in the outline? One of my blue-sky wishes for Leo:

Re: rst3 newbies, please try the rst3 tutorial

2013-10-29 Thread Matt Wilkie
I would keep the path examples, while keeping the list trimmed to 3. @rst myDocument.html # same folder as .leo file @rst output/myDocument.html# in a subfolder @rst d:/docs/html/myDocument.html # specify absolute path On more thought, just use two examples: @rst

Tools watch: ascii cinema

2013-10-29 Thread Matt Wilkie
Of note vis a vis the recent efforts to build video demos for the next release: http://asciinema.org/ a web host and python project to record terminal screen sessions as video. Appears to be only for 'nix operating systems. found by way of reading up on the

Re: How to debug startup of myLeoSettings...

2013-10-27 Thread Matt Wilkie
oops, 2nd half of reply was clipped: To be Leonine about it, and not have to invest in building gui widget dialogs, ow about making each plugin a headline node instead of body text, and turning them on and off is simply a matter of moving them in and out of `@settings - @enabled-plugins` ? [ ]

Re: How to debug startup of myLeoSettings...

2013-10-27 Thread Matt Wilkie
now a feature request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/leo-editor/+bug/1245123 On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: oops, 2nd half of reply was clipped: To be Leonine about it, and not have to invest in building gui widget dialogs, ow about making each plugin

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Brian Theado brian.the...@gmail.comwrote: I played around with creating some html/css which could display example leo tree structure just as it would appear in leo itself. Check out the result here: http://jsfiddle.net/YFsNL/ (the result is rendered in the

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: very nice Brian! I think you're on to something. I've not tried it before, or thought of it for that matter, but css can be applied to xml - http://edutechwiki.unige.ch/en/CSS_for_XML_tutorial. Oh this is way too cool. I

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
the only thing I have to add to the other excellent comments is a wondering: why is the at-comand `@rst` and the x-command `rst3` ? Do they _have_ to be different? And: elsewhere (everywhere else?) we use `@ @c` for comments. Are there specific technical reasons this isn't used for rst or is

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
Bug: For details, see the rst3 chapterhttp://leoeditor.com/tutorial-rst3.html. -- the link at the end goes to self, the tutorial, instead of the detailed chapter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
ahhh, I think I know why: they both have the same title. - Creating Documents with the rst3 Command - http://leoeditor.com/tutorial-rst3.html - Creating Documents with the rst3 Command - http://leoeditor.com/rstplugin3.html On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Matt Wilkie map

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: And: elsewhere (everywhere else?) we use `@ @c` for comments. Nevermind! The extended chapter covers this (and yes `@ ... @c` is used). It also answers the questions Phil asked about docutils vs sphinx and Lewis's Q

Re: Recommendation for video tutorials: do post-production experiments first

2013-10-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
I remember reading that one should record at the highest possible resolution and reduce after that fact, even when going as low as 240p. That the quality of 1080p reduced to 360p is much better than a native 360p recording with no resampling at all. -- You received this message because you are

Re: Only in leo...

2013-10-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
select those two lines, Ctrl-B, and now my node contains: ...somehow, after all this time, I managed to miss that Ctrl-B works on selections! I thought it always ran the whole node and have been moving code into new nodes to reduce the scope. And, _not_ testing snippets when the overhead of

Re: bookmarks.py workflow video

2013-10-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
I hate watching 2-3 minutes of video to learn something that can be explained in 2-3 sentences I am *so *with you on this. This bookmarks video though is not that :) Seeing it in action I begin to understand it's potential, and not just for the Leonistas out there. Coming from Terry I always

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
- if u can understanded 4000 in common use Chinese character - so means u can understanded all paper in History ! even 5000 years ago papers I remember Larry Wall, creator of Perl, saying that Chinese writing was fascinating to him because it was so portable. People in neighbouring provinces

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
I haven't contributed to this thread because I still struggle with a concise view of what Leo is. me too - Stress that org mode and vimoutline mode are no substitute for Leo Maybe part of the problem is coming from the conceptual gravity point that Outlining is what Leo is good at, it's

Re: How to usage Leo as team?[was] Leo in the wild

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
I wonder, how hard would it be to create an Emacs leo-python mode (major?, minor?) that would hide (or lessen the visual impact) of Leo sentinels? I was reasonably successful in creating a Vim syntax file that mutes leo sentinels, and I'm not very vim smart.

Re: Coming soon: work flow patterns

2013-10-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
A preview: I make a clone of anything I'm working on, and move it to the *last* node of the outline. This can be a multi-step process. Thanks for this. 'till now I have tried to always go the other way and move things I'm about to work to or near the top. (because, you know, it's the number 1

Re: Leo in the wild

2013-10-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
thank you for the extended description and links :) In the wild means something like beyond the village or outside walls of protected garden. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/21 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com: One of the more interesting

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
I found a working copy! http://screenbooks.net/e/sbooks/leo/ I've sent a message to Joe Orr asking if it's okay to mirror it. -matt On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Haroldo Stenger haroldo.sten...@gmail.com wrote: hi Ed, the link to Joe Orr's tutorial page is broken. The wayback machine

Re: Old Leo descriptions now in LeoDocs.leo

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
I am not convinced that putting any of these on Leo's web site would make any substantial difference, but I am open to discussion. I think it's useful to everything in the installed files somewhere on the website, which is not the same as saying make it prominent or trivial to discover. I used

Re: OMG: clones are primarily about work flow!

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
For years I have been saying that clones can create multiple views of data. That's true, but today I realized that that story is misleading. In fact, I use clones simply as a way of accelerating my work flow! thanks for this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
One more thing: Start publicizing different ways people use Leo. How about a Planet Leo? e.g. - http://www.planetdjango.org - http://planet.scipy.org/ - http://www.planetgs.com/ Maybe this is the software that drives them, http://www.planetplanet.org/? -- You received this message because

leo on sourceforge

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
Possible things for Leo's entry on Sourceforge: Add to Categories: Topic::Text Editors Topic::Text Editors::Text Processing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Leo in the wild

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
One of the more interesting sightings of Leo in the Wild I've come across: http://zoomquiet.org/ Though reading Chinese would be useful to uncover just *how *Leo is involved! (Zoom has participated on the list before, perhaps this mention will persuade him to elaborate? ;-) -- You received

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
There is pent up demand for tools like Leo. See this decade long discussed feature request for an Outliner in Open Office Writer: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959. Leo is mentioned at least twice, not so much as an alternative to ooWriter/msWord but as a see what can be done?

Re: Including headings in @auto or @nosent files

2013-10-14 Thread Matt Wilkie
Could you speak a bit to what problem this would solve for you? Sentinals/No sentinals is something that comes up regularly, but the idea of some sentinels is new (to me). It might be useful to explore that. #@#@#@ d code and comments Personally I would aim for something more readable, e.g.

beware fake twitter email from @edreamleo

2013-10-13 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hey All, I just received a well designed but fake email purporting to be from twitter.com on behalf of @edreamleo (Edward). The bit.ly link therein led to a maze of whack-a-mole popup windows offering me wonderful cure all drugs and other snake oils proffered by sumptuous buxom blondes. On

Re: Check out Leo's new theory of operation

2013-10-13 Thread Matt Wilkie
I made a list of reasons why short explanations are better than long ones. Alas, I deleted it by mistake. Oh the irony! Can't get any shorter than [void] ! :) :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: Why Leo isn't more popular

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
What an enormously long and interesting thread! Thanks for the sub-thread on using Leo for plain ol' writing. It rings true for me. Leo doesn't leverage much of my prior muscle memory, and that leads me away from it, and once away it takes awhile to return. This is still true even though I've

Re: Why Leo isn't more popular

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: Consequently I spend a lot of in-Leo time in a state of confusion, often unsure whether I'm trying to learn programming or python or Leo or more about the actual problem I'm started out trying to solve this morning

Re: Improving reformat-paragraph

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
I would *love* a reformat paragraph command that doesn't break docstings or comments! On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: This command was a major advance when one of Leo's users created it. Don't remember who it was. However, it's limitations are

Re: LeoPIM - recurring events library?

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
might be worth seeing what Taskcoach uses. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone know of a python, preferably, light-weight, preferably, library for managing recurring events? I searched a while ago and found nothing except Chandler's, which was

Re: Proposed workaround to refresh-from-disk problems

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, there is always a workaround to problems with refresh-from-disk. Simply save the .leo file and reload. The save will be safe for never-read @file nodes, provided that you say no when asked whether you want to

Re: Programatically editing RTF

2013-10-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
pandoc understands RTF (http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/index.html), though maybe not in the way you need (?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Leo cheatsheet

2013-09-23 Thread Matt Wilkie
Here's a Leo key binding quick reference document I put together a little while ago (gasp! has it really been 4 years already??) leo-editor - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxjYoJ7VMm5VbE11NHM3Q3RIRVkusp=sharing I've not reviewed it for accuracy. cheers, -matt On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at

Re: On writing good documentation

2013-09-10 Thread Matt Wilkie
I've found the recommended reading from the essay speaks to me. 'The Science of Scientific Writinghttp://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.877,y.0,no.,content.true,page.1,css.print/issue.aspx' gives practical before and after examples and clear theory (though I did have to print out hard copy

Re: Any way to read-only a file, within Leo?

2013-09-10 Thread Matt Wilkie
A curious question, indeed. Why would you want to do that? You would run the risk of losing whatever changes you made to the outline. I've occasionally wished for this when inadvertently changing the .leo files which come with Leo, when all I'm doing is reading/studying. I'm usually running

Re: Crazy idea - LeOS?

2013-09-10 Thread Matt Wilkie
Once upon a time I began implementing ... then ... shiny! http://code.google.com/p/pyfilesystem/ ... Interesting find... damn you. that leads to running python in the browser: http://www.rfk.id.au/blog/entry/pypy-js-poc-jit/ http://www.skulpt.org/ http://www.brython.info/index.html -- You

Re: Change default text editor

2013-09-03 Thread Matt Wilkie
Leo will respect the LEO_EDITOR and EDITOR environment variable. IIRC it can be just the name, if in PATH, or fully qualified. There's also a myLeoSettings for it, that I'll try and dig up. And from quickstart.leo: Using your favorite editor to edit nodes. You can also change the external editor

Re: Change default text editor

2013-09-03 Thread Matt Wilkie
/source/browse/other/replace_notepad_with_notepad2.reg https://code.google.com/p/maphew/source/browse/other/OpenWithNotepad.reg cheers, -matt On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: Leo will respect the LEO_EDITOR and EDITOR environment variable. IIRC it can be just

Re: Crazy idea - LeOS?

2013-09-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
Basically it would be a boot-to-Leo system. I used to do something vageuly like this with Dos 6.2 and Windows 95. I discovered that simply replacing `shell=explorer.exe` in win.ini with whatever .exe I wanted would make that program the complete environment. It actually worked surprisingly

Re: Leo 4.11a2 released privately. Please test

2013-08-27 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Monday, August 19, 2013 12:32:33 PM UTC-7, Edward K. Ream wrote: Leo 4.11 a2 is now available at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/leo/files/Leo/ As with the a1 release, this is a private release so we can shake out distribution problems. The a2 release, .zip version, is the default

Re: Leo 4.11a2 released privately. Please test

2013-08-27 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.comwrote: P.S. It appears that the uninstall script works fine on windows, *except* that Leo's start-menu entries are not deleted. I see this too, curious though that the Uninstall dialog reports that the folder containing the

Re: Do something new?

2013-08-26 Thread Matt Wilkie
I am reminded of, *If I had more time I'd of written a shorter letterhttp://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/04/28/shorter-letter/ *, though after reading the linked page I like these variants best: * “Good things, when short, are twice as good”*, [Baltasar Gracián, Jospeh Jacobs] *If I am to speak

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-12 Thread Matt Wilkie
Ok, I think I've fed Ohloh a seamless history of Leo now, from 2002 to present. This brings the summary to: *In a Nutshell, The Leo Editor...* - ... has had 15,508 commitshttps://www.ohloh.net/p/leo/commits/summarymade by 47 contributors https://www.ohloh.net/p/leo/contributors/summary

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-11 Thread Matt Wilkie
Thought: if we ever move to git, it would be good to collect all the history we have to the repo. I've imported the Sourceforge CVS to Launchpad, and will do the same for tigris svn if it's still up somewhere. https://code.launchpad.net/~maphew/leo-editor/cvs-2002-2006 (my, my. butshell ?

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-11 Thread Matt Wilkie
I belatedly remembered that Launchpad has a built in facility for importing code and history from other sites, so I'll use that for the years 2006-2008 on Tigris.org instead: https://code.launchpad.net/~maphew/leo-editor/cvs-2006-2008 Edward, should you get one, please feel free to ignore a

Re: Matt, et. al.: Please review new docs for creating Windows file associations

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
Regarding http://leoeditor.com/**installing.html#creating-** windows-file-associationshttp://leoeditor.com/installing.html#creating-windows-file-associations : The fix is on the trunk and on Leo's web site. maybe I'm running afoul of caching, but I still see yesterday's version. I tried a

Re: Matt, et. al.: Please review new docs for creating Windows file associations

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: scripts.leo does seem like the best place for installation scripts. As part of the run-up to Leo 4.11a1, could you move the scripts and delete the external files from the repo? I'm not sure I follow. The two sentences

Re: Leo adoption and the Leo user community

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hello, user. This is a message from the Leo developers. We have no idea how many people use Leo. Click here to send us a ping. The exact content of your transmission will be ... +1 from me, for the wording and general approach. Not sure about the utility of having this presented on

Re: Leo adoption and the Leo user community

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
In terms of user adoption, it seems to me that Leo is nowhere near that of other main text editors. Sure, Leo is in a category of its own, being an outlining editor, as opposed to a simple editor, but should this not make it more popular, instead of more obscure? My take on this is, is that

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Wilkie
I've located the early years CVS (Concurrent Version System) repositoryhttp://leo.cvs.sourceforge.net/and added that to the Ohloh entry. which has now been processed and is providing statistics, bringing it up to 12,628 commits https://www.ohloh.net/p/leo/commits/summary made by 43

Re: Matt, et. al.: Please review new docs for creating Windows file associations

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
P.S. All these picky details illustrate just how difficult it is to write proper installation instructions. Imo, it's the most difficult documentation there is. agreed! Regarding http://leoeditor.com/installing.html#creating-windows-file-associations: Is this on Launchpad? LeoDocs.leo Users

Re: Matt, et. al.: Please review new docs for creating Windows file associations

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
(4) Strike any mention of creating a batch files here. They aren't needed for *association*. The extra info here could be folded into Running Leo Windows section. ...just discovered a bug where sometimes the new assoc ftype don't take effect if there is already an existing one. Solution is

bzr tangle

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
I'm in a bzr tangle again, sorry folks! I have a small fix to add to the trunk, just 3 lines, and another larger more tentative experiment. I've have both changes in my local working copy of trunk. I locally committed just the safe change, and left the other one out. I then went to push the safe

Re: bzr tangle

2013-08-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
cd .. bzr pull lp:leo-editor clean_trunk cd clean_trunk bzr merge ../mattsbranch bzr commit -m'merged my safe xxzzyy changes' # verify with bzr qlog that just your safe changes are committed bzr push --remember :parent Thank you Terry. This worked and wasn't even painful. :) A big

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-07 Thread Matt Wilkie
while it's not a visualisation like I was contemplating, it's still darn interesting, more so perhaps because it's interactive and inspires digging and exploration: https://www.ohloh.net/p/leo In a Nutshell, The Leo Editor... - ... has had 8,373 commits

Re: Leo History, the early years

2013-08-07 Thread Matt Wilkie
Thanks for the effort putting this together, Matt! It's an interesting look at the project. It's nice when something I've done for my own edification works for someone else too. :) I've located the early years CVS (Concurrent Version System) repositoryhttp://leo.cvs.sourceforge.net/and added

Re: Matt, is this fixed? What does the search form on Leo's home page search?

2013-08-07 Thread Matt Wilkie
works for me now. Thanks! -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: All known doc bugs fixed: please report any new problems

2013-08-07 Thread Matt Wilkie
1. Document Windows associations. This is quite a project. In progress. Super busy right now with unexpected home renos, but will help as much as I can. Just let me know which file(s) to watch. -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor

Re: Web Site is Down

2013-08-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/leoeditor.com a momentary blip it appears, at least it's working now anyway. -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Leo History, the early years

2013-08-02 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hi Folks, The open source GRASS GIS project turned 30 years old this week. Part of the birthday celebrations was the release of a time-lapse video visualisation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4_5GSID2A of the code commit history for the last fourteen years or so. Naturally the graph viz got me

Re: I now have a new stent. New hips on hold

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Wilkie
Be well and happy my friend! A close family member got stent put in ...3 years ago now I think. It's certainly done him a world of good, though he needs to stay on top of his medication and diet more closely now. I'm continually amazed at what humans can do and recover from (and, in equal

I'm back, sort of

2013-07-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hey All, I'm back, sort of. :) It'll probably take me awhile to catch up with everyone. Been experiencing some much-nicer-than-recent-years sun and fun, and a home renovation project that's gone significantly beyond original intended scope (whaddyamean there's black mold behind that radiator?

Re: adding content to body editor but not seeing text updated

2013-07-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
always used section references to split the script because I thought @others would not necessarily keep the same order of the nodes that you have in the tree also in the file. Cheers, Daniel On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:34:04 PM UTC-3, Matt Wilkie wrote: So far, I have seen this issue

Re: I'll be getting two new hips this year

2013-07-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
Thanks for all your kind words of support. I do expect to be back to walking, swimming and bicycling relatively soon. As many of you know, this kind of hip surgery is one of the most successful surgeries in the world. That was certainly the case for a close family member a few years ago. I

Re: Travelling

2013-07-01 Thread Matt Wilkie
I'm back, and catching up :-) I'll be responding to recent emails asap. ...and I'm about to go mostly offline for about 2 weeks :) cheers, -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: adding content to body editor but not seeing text updated

2013-06-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
I think the discussion I'm remembering is ***Rev 5482 adds @colorcach**e directive and completes the color caching code. Please test* in Oct 2012. From my reading of it there's nothing you can do except add organizer nodes to break things up. I'm not familiar with R scripts, but if they resemble

Re: adding content to body editor but not seeing text updated

2013-06-25 Thread Matt Wilkie
Hi Fidel, The best way I know of to see how `@auto` works is to grab a .py from the wild (e.g. hasn't been touched by Leo yet) and drag'n'drop it onto Leo's body pane. Each `def` will become it's own node transparently, and when saved the external file will not have any sentinels. ***When

Re: adding content to body editor but not seeing text updated

2013-06-24 Thread Matt Wilkie
just a thought: does it still occur with syntax highlighted turned off? (add @nocolor) I vaguely remember a thread about there being performance issues with this in certain circumstances. -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To

Re: Web leo

2013-06-21 Thread Matt Wilkie
That came up on the G+ Leo Editor community a while back :-) huh, maybe that's why that particular flutterby captured my attention long enough to read it. :) -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: Web leo

2013-06-20 Thread Matt Wilkie
Dunno if this will have any bearing at all on your work Terry, but the synchronicity of this coming to my attention unbidden is too interesting to ignore: http://www.firepad.io/ How is Firepad different than other collaborative text editors? Most collaborative text editors require special code

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