Re: ENB: building Leo into emacs org mode

2019-08-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
her and allow scripting emacs with python ;-) But I don't have a magic wand, and it doesn't seem likely that emacs will ever be scriptable with python. Unless some hero steps up Leo in emacs will remain a tantalizing possibility, just out of reach. Edward -- You received this message because

Re: ENB: building Leo into emacs org mode

2019-08-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:58:19 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: Org babel is great for code snippets. It does not scale up to entire > source files. > One could consider allowing @others and section references within part of code blocks

ENB: building Leo into emacs org mode

2019-08-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
o write the required elisp code*. Indeed, it would be a big distraction for me and Leo's other devs. However, I am willing to support such efforts with design suggestions. #1026: Embed Leo in Emacs <https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/1026> has been closed and marked "won't

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-07-09 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 12:20 AM Matt Wilkie wrote: > Btw, even if Leo's body pane *were* vim, IPC would still be needed >> between Leo and vim. >> > > This sentence made me wonder: how is IPC or it's analog different from > what's used within Leo: from outline to body, from Altix (Alt-x) to >

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-07-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
> > Btw, even if Leo's body pane *were* vim, IPC would still be needed > between Leo and vim. > This sentence made me wonder: how is IPC or it's analog different from what's used within Leo: from outline to body, from Altix (Alt-x) to outline, from body to Render, etc.? Every 'dock' a module

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 9:41:57 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:18 AM jkn wrote: > > To my mind it would be nicer to have the body pane of Leo visible, but >> actually *be* the vim, emacs or whatever buffer. >> > > Sure. Alas, I know of no way of doing it.

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:18 AM jkn wrote: Aren't there some ... systems where you can provide (terminology showing > the vintage here) a handle to an outside program, of 'the window under > consideration'? > Sure. nvim supports servername. See also nvr

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-06-25 Thread jkn
Aren't there some ... systems where you can provide (terminology showing the vintage here) a handle to an outside program, of 'the window under consideration'? To my mind it would be nicer to have the body pane of Leo visible, but actually *be* the vim, emacs or whatever buffer. In your

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:08 AM gar wrote: Edward, but does Leo need these hard to implement features? > No. Leo could be said to be "perfect", just the way it is :-) > What would Leo achieve when it get them? > vim and emacs users who want Leonine features while retaining features of vim and

Re: IPC between Leo & vim, emacs, etc

2019-06-25 Thread gar
with the cursor in the proper place. > > *In Vim*: `:leo` transfers control to Leo, updating c.p.b and putting > focus in the outline. > > Similarly, in emacs, leo. > > This would let Leonistas to use the *real* vim (or neovim, or emacs) for > text editing. > > *Discus

Re: leo in emacs?

2019-06-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 10:29:28 PM UTC-5, Jeff R. wrote: I have moved off of Leo and now use Emacs, mostly for org-mode but also for > whatever else is useful. Emacs itself has features that I can't give up, or > at least am not willing to right now. > What are those features? Adding

Re: leo in emacs?

2019-06-19 Thread Edward K. Ream
macs.html>. There is also an xemacs.py plugin that allows communication between Leo and emacs. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

leo in emacs?

2019-06-19 Thread Jeff Filipovits
I tried Leo a few times and really liked it. Not a programmer, but have to sort a lot of information and academic writing. I read this list because I enjoy seeing the project development and enjoy Edward's leadership. I have moved off of Leo and now use Emacs, mostly for org-mode but also for

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, gatesphere gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: To help with this process, I've renamed the current github leo-editor repo to leo-editor-mirror, so that the true repo can now occupy leo-editor, when it is created. I've also updated all the scripting and ReadTheDocs

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-10 Thread Jack Kuan
Is the git repo up in github? I can't see it under https://github.com/leo-editor Is it open to public? Thanks Jack On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:55:56 PM UTC-5, Terry wrote: gf's post made me realize my reposting of Ville's reposting failed, here it is - question for you Jacob / Matt...

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-10 Thread Jacob Peck
On 1/10/2014 9:35 AM, Jack Kuan wrote: Is the git repo up in github? I can't see it under https://github.com/leo-editor Is it open to public? It's just for testing at the moment. Any changes pushed to the repo will be blown away when the final migration happens. It's also already several

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-06 Thread Matt Wilkie
I've read so much on rebase vs merge vs grafting vs subtrees vs stitching and so on that I'm more confused now than when I started. :) I give up on conjoining the historical repos, let alone current. The idea of being able to seamlessly follow a feature's changes from now back to the earliest

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: this is a more informative starting point http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19930832/converting-big-bzr-repository-to-git-what-to-expect. Initial experiments look like it won't be too bad. I'll have more to report later.

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Yes, bzr trunk will be enough for main git repo, and it's not like we would be deleting the old repos in the process. On Jan 5, 2014 1:50 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: this is a more informative starting point

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread gatesphere
To help with this process, I've renamed the current github leo-editor repo to leo-editor-mirror, so that the true repo can now occupy leo-editor, when it is created. I've also updated all the scripting and ReadTheDocs settings to reflect this. Once the migration to git is complete, I'll

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:05 AM, gatesphere gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, I saw the leo-cvs-2002-2006 repo -- are you going to do different repos for different points in Leo's history? If so, we could probably get the leo-editor repo with just bzr's history up and running fairly quickly,

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread gatesphere
On 1/5/2014 1:47 PM, Matt Wilkie wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:05 AM, gatesphere gatesph...@gmail.com mailto:gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, I saw the leo-cvs-2002-2006 repo -- are you going to do different repos for different points in Leo's history? If so, we could

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Terry Brown
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:47:00 -0800 Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at Pushing to https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-cvs-2002-2006.git; for 2 hours now. (not frozen, cpu and ram % for git is bouncing slowly up and down). Are you using DSL? I get 1.1 Mb / sec. downloand

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
Well, at the moment, I'm trying to convince bzr that it does indeed know how to do 'fast-export'... :) make sure you have gobs of free space, the raw bzr export file for 2002-2006 is 3.2GB. -matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.comwrote: I get 1.1 Mb / sec. downloand :-) but 87 Kb / sec. upload good point. I was thinking of standard dnld speeds. Unfortunately I've no idea what the upload payload size is. I think Jake's idea of breaking things into

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Well, I don't think we want a 3 gig repository for daily work. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.comwrote: I get 1.1 Mb / sec. downloand :-) but 87 Kb / sec. upload good point. I was

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread gatesphere
On 1/5/2014 2:42 PM, Matt Wilkie wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com mailto:terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: I get 1.1 Mb / sec. downloand :-) but 87 Kb / sec. upload good point. I was thinking of standard dnld speeds. Unfortunately I've no

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread gatesphere
On 1/5/2014 2:42 PM, Matt Wilkie wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com mailto:terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: I get 1.1 Mb / sec. downloand :-) but 87 Kb / sec. upload good point. I was thinking of standard dnld speeds. Unfortunately I've no

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:59 PM, gatesphere gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: I just pushed ~9000 commits (commits in branches on launchpad are apparently visible in the mainline repo when importing to git) to the leo-bzr-test repo (https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-bzr-test), and it took me a

Re: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-05 Thread gatesphere
On 1/5/2014 4:56 PM, Matt Wilkie wrote: Thank you very much Jake. Clearly something was wrong on my end! I followed your example and had a successful push within 20 minutes (including repacking and pruning; on-disk size of the repo shrank from 750mb to 63mb.). Glad to see it worked! After

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, January 3, 2014 10:55:56 PM UTC-6, Terry wrote: bzr is more than enough DVCS for Leo, the only drawback is Ohh, you're not using git Longer term bzr may atrophy, I guess, although I imagine it will be usable for many years to come. I agree. Leo should move to git

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-04 Thread Matt Wilkie
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: Matt and Jacob - it seemed that between you you'd kind of done most of the leg-work for getting Leo's VCS history in one place and moving it to git Jake has done all of the git and github work on Leo itself. I've just

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-04 Thread Matt Wilkie
this is a more informative starting point http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19930832/converting-big-bzr-repository-to-git-what-to-expect. Initial experiments look like it won't be too bad. I'll have more to report later. -matt On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Matt Wilkie map...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-04 Thread gatesphere
On 1/3/2014 11:55 PM, Terry Brown wrote: Matt and Jacob - it seemed that between you you'd kind of done most of the leg-work for getting Leo's VCS history in one place and moving it to git - I'm not saying we should move right now, but just wondering how high the barrier is, not very, perhaps?

Re: Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-04 Thread Matt Wilkie
Pulling the years 2002-2006 into git went smoothly enough, following the guide linked previously, but 2006-2008 is giving some trouble. The Launchpad auto-import version of this repo drops all the tags (e.g. v4.4.1) which is important history IMO, and has a different parent directory than the

Fw: [Leo Editor] Emacs needs to move to git (from bzr)

2014-01-03 Thread Terry Brown
gf's post made me realize my reposting of Ville's reposting failed, here it is - question for you Jacob / Matt... Begin forwarded message: On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 07:45:25 -0800 (PST) Ville Vainio (Google+) noreply-7dc29...@plus.google.com wrote:

Re: Leo or Emacs for editing body text?

2011-05-16 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa g...@atmarama.net wrote: Now, since I regularly use Emacs as my preferred editor, I wonder what would be some of pro/cons in using only Leo for editing body text or editing body text with Emacs? You can use Emacs to edit Leo sources using

Leo or Emacs for editing body text?

2011-05-13 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
Hello! Soon I plan to start writing on PyQT application and considering that, so far, I'm the only one working on it, it's a nice opportunity to use Leo with @file not caring much about sentinels and later collaboration. Now, since I regularly use Emacs as my preferred editor, I wonder what

Re: Leo or Emacs for editing body text?

2011-05-13 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa g...@atmarama.net wrote: Soon I plan to start writing on PyQT application and considering that, so far, I'm the only one working on it, it's a nice opportunity to use Leo with @file not caring much about sentinels and later collaboration.

Re: Leo or Emacs for editing body text?

2011-05-13 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
in Leo for e.g. PHP? OTOH, editors like komodo edit have a more sophisticated autocompletion than Leo has (so far, at least until my summer holiday starts ;-). I considered Eric (due to PyQt), but was told that it does not bring much over Emacs. What do you think about it? Leo with(out