[RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hi All, I wanted to open this up to the entire community for further comments (especially for those that may not watch the alfs-discuss list). A question was brought up on alfs-discuss today that I thought deserves some attention. As far as I am aware, historically, ALFS as a project was

Re: Working towards 6.1 final

2005-08-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Ken Moffat wrote: I plan to look at dhcpcd in a few minutes Well, the good news is it seems to be maintained again (a 2.0.0 version at berlios.de incorporating recent patches from debian and gentoo). The bad news is the layout of the source has been tidied up, moving the

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/09/05 12:17 CST: I am anxious to hear the entire LFS community's thoughts, so please, if you have an opinion about this, speak up. I have an automated procedure for building LFS which uses Bash scripts as well. Probably many do. And though these scripts

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread John Benes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Or should ALFS endeavor to host various build methods/implementations? +1 to that I prefer to have a choice on how my system is built, be that by XML, Makefiles, or Bash scripting. I am for the idea of having many build

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
This is what the hard part is. Keeping those things pointed out above in sync with LFS. nALFS has a team which does this already. For every other automated build method, someone must ensure that these things take place. Right. One solution to that which I am interested in pursuing a bit more

Re: FontConfig installation

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Even if you pass the --disable-docs parameter to configure, when you try to execute the 'make -C doc install' command shown in the instructions, it fails with an error message that says it cannot find pdfjadetex. This sounds similar to the module-init-tools bug which was

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew Burgess
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: The difficulty becomes how to use those raw text files to intelligently and accurately script the build. One idea that immediately springs to mind is that we have a tool that not only extracts/dumps the commands (i.e. XSL), but instead of/as well as dumping the

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Or should ALFS endeavor to host various build methods/implementations? I think it would be best. We have a few lfs book in development now, so maybe in the future the user could have a choice between normal lfs, hlfs, etc etc. Don't know if that is really feasible,

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 06:51:16PM +0100, Matthew Burgess wrote: I'd then write handlers for each of those events that would result in me having exactly the same Makefiles that I have now, but with the massive benefit of being automatically generated/maintained. This processing is inspired

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread John Kelly
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT), Jeremy Huntwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: extracting the commands from the book's XML source ... Manuel has created a XSL stylesheet that can extract all the commands and dump them into text files. diy-linux seems to be doing this too. This could be put

LFS on x86_64

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Kipper
Hi all, I have been trying for a few weeks now to build LFS on my Athlon64 to no success. The problem is, there is the main LFS book, which is designed for x86 builds, and there is the cross book, which is designed for something-to-x86_64 builds. I'm building from FC4 x86_64 to x86_64. Has

Re: LFS on x86_64

2005-08-09 Thread Peter Danenberg
Has anyone done this successfully? And maybe documented it? Just did an x86_64 using GCC 4.0.1 and the vanilla LFS 6.0 book, actually, in just under 48 hours. Works beautifully with the exception of glibc, for which I had to have GCC 3.4.4 on hand (though I hear that's been

Using bugzilla

2005-08-09 Thread Matthew Burgess
Folks, I've currently got a TODO list with some 16 items on it. Although some of these really are personal LFS-related tasks I'd like to tackle, the majority of them are reminders of/pointers to emails to do with bugs that need to be addressed in the book. In order that everyone has

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 08/09/05 16:04 CST: Groovy. BTW, just taking a quick peek at my buildscript for strace (I can't remember how long it was that I wrote it), strace is a cmmi package. Yes, I believe it is. But the point of this page is not so much to provide build instructions as it

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 04:10:22PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Yes, I believe it is. But the point of this page is not so much to provide build instructions as it is a place where you can find out what is available and where the hell to download stuff from without having to spend time

Re: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 08/09/05 16:14 CST: Understood. But since the discussion of gdb instruction came up, I thought it might be relevant to the discussion since a page for strace would require very minimal maintenance. Yeah, I kind of thought my message before this was rather blunt. I

Re: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread Nathan Coulson
On 8/8/05, DJ Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Okay..I'm not sure how (if) this affects the LSB function for pidofproc, And I did break it in a rather obvious way. Attached should be a working patch against lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2. I've tested it to the best of the amount

Re: Using bugzilla

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
Matthew Burgess wrote these words on 08/09/05 15:59 CST: In the future, can I request that before sending such emails, you consider entering them into bugzilla instead. Good plan. It *is* frustrating for folks (I've been there) to submit what you think is a good idea on the mailing list, only

Re: LFS on x86_64

2005-08-09 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:16:42PM -0400, Michael Kipper wrote: What I'm probably looking to do it to build a clean x86_64 toolset, using FC4's gcc-4.0.1 to build a clean gcc-3.4.4 toolchain, and then using the clean toolchain to build LFS. Divide and conquer. The first problem is using

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread DJ Lucas
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hi All, I wanted to open this up to the entire community for further comments (especially for those that may not watch the alfs-discuss list). A question was brought up on alfs-discuss today that I thought deserves some attention. Thank you for doing so. As far

RE: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
And I did break it in a rather obvious way. Attached should be a working patch against lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2. I've tested it to the best of the amount of time availible, but it should be correct. Alexander, Archaic, Randy and anyone else who has seen the issue, I'd appreciate if you

Re: [RFC] ALFS implementations

2005-08-09 Thread Joshua Murphy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hi All, I wanted to open this up to the entire community for further comments (especially for those that may not watch the alfs-discuss list). A question was brought up on alfs-discuss today that I thought deserves some attention. My current LFS build was through

RE: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Well, I didn't have the problem before... However, I am now experiencing the following problem after applying your patch: /etc# init.d/spamd stop Stopping spamd... [ FAIL ] It was running, and it DID stop it, but reported a failure. Then I tried starting it again: /etc#

RE: Addition to Chapter 12

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Unless you have a reason to use static libraries, I'd just move them out of the way (after confirming exactly what it installed, of course). If you do have a reason to use them, rebuild *binutils* following the chapter 6 LFS instructions. Ok great. :) Thank you ever so much, Ken. :)

RE: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Ok, without the patch, DJ, I am experiencing a problem, where I try to stop an already stopped process, and it pretends to work. :) However, it really doesn't, of course, since the process isn't actually running. And you already have seen what the patch did to me. :) Dave PS Sorry

Re: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread DJ Lucas
David Fix wrote: Well, I didn't have the problem before... However, I am now experiencing the following problem after applying your patch: /etc# init.d/spamd stop Stopping spamd... [ FAIL ] It was running, and it DID stop it, but reported a failure. Then I tried starting it again: /etc#

Re: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 08/09/05 21:12 CST: Okay, does the spamd script that you use set PIDFILE? Because I'm the one that started this thread by reporting what I felt was an error in the functions, I am curious if anyone else has seen the issue I see. I would hate the DJ is fighting

RE: LFS Bootscripts

2005-08-09 Thread David Fix
Okay, does the spamd script that you use set PIDFILE? -- DJ Lucas Nope... I just copied from some of the other bootscripts... However, I had the same problems with samba, which I'd done completely according to the book. Here is what /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd looks like: #! /bin/sh .

Re: LFS Bootscripts [SOLVED]

2005-08-09 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, I believe I've run across a bug in the LFS Bootscripts. It appears to me that if the concerned script (I've only tested BLFS scripts, but I suppose I could kill the sysklog stuff and try it) is not started, and you issue a /etc/rc.d/init.d/script status