LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Baho Utot
I would like to download the LFS-6.4 version of the book but it is missing from the download section http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/ Is it still available? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On 1 April 2010 00:17, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: I would like to download the LFS-6.4 version of the book but it is missing from the download section http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/ Is it still available? You can read it at:

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Baho Utot wrote: I would like to download the LFS-6.4 version of the book but it is missing from the download section http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/ Is it still available? Just a minor permissions problem. Both 6.3 and 6.4 are accessible now. -- Bruce --

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Trent Shea
On March 31, 2010 05:31:07 pm Ken Moffat wrote: Quite why anyone would want to read it now, other than to compare what has changed, is beyond me. I agree with Ken. I see you fighting with KDE-3, but it's mainly because you're building a version that's not maintained - not officially anyways...

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Baho Utot
Ken Moffat wrote: On 1 April 2010 00:17, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: I would like to download the LFS-6.4 version of the book but it is missing from the download section http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/ Is it still available? You can read it at:

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Baho Utot
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Baho Utot wrote: I would like to download the LFS-6.4 version of the book but it is missing from the download section http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/ Is it still available? Just a minor permissions problem. Both 6.3 and 6.4 are accessible

Re: LFS-6.4 Book

2010-03-31 Thread Baho Utot
Trent Shea wrote: On March 31, 2010 05:31:07 pm Ken Moffat wrote: Quite why anyone would want to read it now, other than to compare what has changed, is beyond me. I agree with Ken. I see you fighting with KDE-3, but it's mainly because you're building a version that's not

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-09 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:59 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: A point release should go through full QA, which is why it would be a big deal, require full directory structure creation, regresion testing, etc. Someone would have to go through the full build following the book exactly. Seems to me

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-09 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 12:12 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ignoring those issues or now, the process of a release includes building the book in multiple formats, placing all support files in their proper location, ensuring the mirror master has all the correct files, updating the web site, and

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-08 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:48 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Simon Geard wrote: If we were *really* following standard practice, we'd be applying the errata changes against the 6.4 book, and putting a 6.4.1 book on the website to replace it. Can't dispute. You'd do a point release. Right,

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-08 Thread Mike McCarty
Simon Geard wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:48 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Simon Geard wrote: If we were *really* following standard practice, we'd be applying the errata changes against the 6.4 book, and putting a 6.4.1 book on the website to replace it. Can't dispute. You'd do a point

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-08 Thread Jason Erickson
Full QA? For a change in wording? Thats like saying that the book has an extra the on page X and to remove the extra the we need to re-read the whole book just to make sure that the extra the doesnt break any code. Please dont tell me that your serious. As far as new download locations...fine,

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mike McCarty wrote: A point release should go through full QA, which is why it would be a big deal, require full directory structure creation, regression testing, etc. Someone would have to go through the full build following the book exactly. I've been following this thread, but would

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-08 Thread Aaron Sterling
A point release should go through full QA, which is why it would be a big deal, require full directory structure creation, regresion testing, etc. Someone would have to go through the full build following the book exactly. Mike This might be above my head, but why does a point release

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-07 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 07:08 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: This sort of thing is standard practice with all major projects, and has nothing to do with the medium in which the components get realized. It has everything to do with quality assurance and version control. Actually, I disagree - most

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-07 Thread Mike McCarty
Simon Geard wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 07:08 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: This sort of thing is standard practice with all major projects, and has nothing to do with the medium in which the components get realized. It has everything to do with quality assurance and version control.

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread Mike McCarty
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: You don't need to change the book number just make the changes in the book. On the page where the people will download the book just warn them to check there for the newest version. This is what other major open source developers do. Why do you want to

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread Mike McCarty
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Why do so many computer geeks want to make things complicated? I am not a member of the LFS support, development, or maintenance teams and efforts, and do not speak for any of them. I speak only for myself. I will allow that I am what you probably refer to

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread genericmaillists
On Monday 06 April 2009 08:57:28 Mike McCarty wrote: You are displaying complete ignorance of what the terms Quality Control and Version Control mean. I suggest that you study a little bit. Why do you want to be insulting? That is rude and abrasive. When I used the word geek I was not being

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread genericmaillists
For 30 years I have been involved in different parts of manufacturing, assemblyline production, machine design and eventually I became a training instructor of CAD software in an engineering department or as an independent contractor/consultant. Production drawings have revisions all the time

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread Mike McCarty
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 06 April 2009 08:57:28 Mike McCarty wrote: You are displaying complete ignorance of what the terms Quality Control and Version Control mean. I suggest that you study a little bit. Why do you want to be insulting? That is rude and abrasive. When

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-06 Thread Mike McCarty
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: For 30 years I have been involved in different parts of Could we please take this off the list? I'm not going to respond further here. Mike -- p=p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);};main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-05 Thread Simon Geard
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 14:32 -0700, Jason Erickson wrote: For the book, it could be 6.4.X where X is the latest version of the 6.4 book. Only changes made would be spelling, grammar, and FTP locations. Makes sense to me... any time you have something that would require an errata page, just

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Simon Geard wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 14:32 -0700, Jason Erickson wrote: For the book, it could be 6.4.X where X is the latest version of the 6.4 book. Only changes made would be spelling, grammar, and FTP locations. Makes sense to me... any time you have something that would require an

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-05 Thread genericmaillists
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:44:54 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Simon Geard wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 14:32 -0700, Jason Erickson wrote: For the book, it could be 6.4.X where X is the latest version of the 6.4 book. Only changes made would be spelling, grammar, and FTP locations. Makes sense

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: You don't need to change the book number just make the changes in the book. On the page where the people will download the book just warn them to check there for the newest version. This is what other major open source developers do. Why do you want to

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-05 Thread genericmaillists
On Sunday 05 April 2009 12:02:21 Bruce Dubbs wrote: genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: You don't need to change the book number just make the changes in the book. On the page where the people will download the book just warn them to check there for the newest version. This is what other

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-04 Thread Tomas Klacko
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009 23:13:19 Chris Staub wrote: Jason Erickson wrote: I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has been a great tool.  I want to first thank you for offering

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-04 Thread genericmaillists
On Saturday 04 April 2009 14:28:53 Tomas Klacko wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:02 AM, genericmailli...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 April 2009 23:13:19 Chris Staub wrote: Jason Erickson wrote: I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-04 Thread Jason Erickson
There are always sub-revisions of source code. Minor things get fixed and promoted as the newest. Like the kernel for instance. There is 2.6.x.y Major version is 2.6 and then there is a minor release of x. Bug fixes for x get a number put into y. For the book, it could be 6.4.X where X is the

LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-03 Thread Jason Erickson
I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has been a great tool. I want to first thank you for offering this book and helping others learn how to build linux from scratch to make our own custom installs. I did notice a few things going through it that I

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-03 Thread genericmaillists
On Friday 03 April 2009 14:03:28 Jason Erickson wrote: For section 5.21 Gawk-3.1.6 There seems to be a formatting issuehere is what the book says: Compilation is now complete. As discussed earlier, running the test suite is not mandatory for the temporary tools here in this chapter. To

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Staub
Jason Erickson wrote: I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has been a great tool. I want to first thank you for offering this book and helping others learn how to build linux from scratch to make our own custom installs. I did notice a few

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-03 Thread Jason Erickson
Yep...didnt see that page. Thanks Jason On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Chris Staub ch...@beaker67.com wrote: Jason Erickson wrote: I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has been a great tool.  I want to first thank you for offering this book and

Re: LFS 6.4 Book HTML

2009-04-03 Thread genericmaillists
On Friday 03 April 2009 23:13:19 Chris Staub wrote: Jason Erickson wrote: I've been using this for the past week learning about linux and the installs and it has been a great tool. I want to first thank you for offering this book and helping others learn how to build linux from scratch

LFS 6.4 Book Errata Errata

2009-03-18 Thread Mike McCarty
I see that a couple of files wouldn't retrieve, and found the errata. I note that the errata section contains, well not exactly an erratum, but perhaps an omission. The replacement URL ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/lfs-packages/development/glibc-2.8-20080929.tar.bz2 is actually a symbolic

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Staub
which book you're reading but it isn't the LFS 6.4 book. In that book the command is: ln -vs libgcc.a `gcc -print-libgcc-file-name | \ sed 's/libgcc/_eh/'` I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK-6.4.pdf.bz2 - and that it mentioned $LFS_TGT in that command. I tried checking the pdf myself to be certain, but I'm having

RE: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Bob Kimmel
I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK- 6.4.pdf.bz2 - and that it mentioned $LFS_TGT in that command. I tried checking the pdf myself to be certain, but I'm having some odd font

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Thomas Pegg
? I don't know which book you're reading but it isn't the LFS 6.4 book. In that book the command is: ln -vs libgcc.a `gcc -print-libgcc-file-name | \ sed 's/libgcc/_eh/'` I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Chris Staub wrote: I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK-6.4.pdf.bz2 - and that it mentioned $LFS_TGT in that command. I tried checking the pdf myself to be

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Yeah, verified. It's there in the PDF file. That's really odd. I don't know who generated the PDF, but it's definitely contaminated with stuff from trunk which were post 6.4. That qualifies as an oops if I ever heard of one. Refresh my memory, who did the actual release tagging again for

Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Gerard Beekmans
How it happened is up to him to explain. Perhaps he didn't make a tag for the release, and just used trunk after the fact when making the PDF file. Seems there should be a checklist for making a release, I know I have one for BLFS when I make a release. There is (a checklist). I'm sure