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Hi Nadim,
I largely agree with your assessment of Silent Circle and I offer these
thoughts in an effort to increase my understanding of the issue. The
product is a packaged "solution" clearly targeted towards business
customers focused on corporate privacy. And while the company offeres
regular tr
On 10/11/2012 12:04 PM, James Losey wrote:
> Hi Nadim,
>
> I largely agree with your assessment of Silent Circle and I offer these
> thoughts in an effort to increase my understanding of the issue. The
> product is a packaged "solution" clearly targeted towards business
> customers focused on corp
>
> > *TL:DR *I don't think Silent Circle is dangerous for the development of
> > cryptography software but demonstrates potential demand and can spark a
> > discussion of best and worst practices of crypto software development.
>
> How did you jump to this? Even the softest cryptography software
Hi everyone,
This might interest a few of you..and if not you might know who it would
interest.
In just under a month, the 2012 European eCampaigning Forum (e-campaigning
= digital activism for anyone in the US) is taking place near Vienna,
Austria on November 7-9. See more here
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On 10/11/2012 09:15 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> James, you can charge for a service and leave it as open source
> software. This has been done countless times over the years and has
> functioned successfully. I am not against Silent Circle costing money -
> I'm against it being closed source soft
On 10/11/2012 1:54 PM, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:
>
> In general, I'm not actually convinced that OSS is a necessity for
> secure communication tools. Protocols can generally be verified on the
> wire, and unfortunately, the number of people who are going to be able
> to look at software-based cryp
Having sat for the better part of the day with Phil Zimmerman with activists
and journalists in a room, here is what I learned:
On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> On 10/11/2012 12:04 PM, James Losey wrote:
>> Hi Nadim,
>>
>> I largely agree with your assessment of Silent Cir
On 10/11/2012 2:14 PM, Katrin Verclas wrote:
> Having sat for the better part of the day with Phil Zimmerman with activists
> and journalists in a room, here is what I learned:
>
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>
>> On 10/11/2012 12:04 PM, James Losey wrote:
>>> Hi Nadim,
I like to see them deliver on the code audits before jumping to judgment since
the product is not even released. Zimmerman gets those reservations, for sure,
so let's see whether they can do a lot better than some companies before them.
For now, the fact that Zimmerman and another staffer took
..on Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 02:24:54PM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>
> The closed-source nature of the software makes pushing
> government-mandated backdoors incredibly easy and extremely difficult to
> detect if done right. This is a tall claim not backed by evidence or the
> possibility of revie
Eric King btw is the name of the person who is the head of research at Privacy
International.
https://www.privacyinternational.org/people/eric-king
Eric is head of research at Privacy International, where he runs the Big
Brother Incorporated project, an investigation of the international trade
That's great -- I'm going to hold up until there is some actual source code.
NK
On 10/11/2012 2:41 PM, Robert Guerra wrote:
> Eric King btw is the name of the person who is the head of research at
> Privacy International.
>
> https://www.privacyinternational.org/people/eric-king
>
> Eric is h
On 10/11/2012 11:24 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>> Zimmerman stated that servers are located in Canada to avoid US
>> subpoenas (not a lawyer, not sure what's that worth in the end).
>
> His entire IP block is connected to servers in the United States. I
> am very skeptical of that claim. Furtherm
On 10/11/2012 10:54 AM, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:
> The problem is that if you have an enterprise focus, you can't sell a
> service, you have to sell software. Serviced-based models have
> certainly made inroads into the enterprise, but they still want to host
> security-focused stuff themselves (e
I just wanted to note that
hosting things in Canada isn't inherently, or necessarily, safer than
hosting in other countries. Canadian courts are as able as American
courts to apply pressure towards 'privacy sensitive' companies, with
Hushmail being a good example.
I would also note that Canad
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On 10/09/2012 03:03 PM, Lindsay Beck wrote:
> Thanks for compiling these resources! Another great tool that is
> perfect for traveling is TAILS, which stands for The Amnesiac
> Incognito Live System
...
For what it's worth, I was traveling OCONUS las
Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday
that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say in your post) will
publish source code.
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It would have been much nicer to create this thread based on real source
code, instead of a tweet based on word of mouth. We'll see.
NK
On 10/11/2012 3:27 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday
> that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say
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On 10/10/2012 06:10 AM, Julian Oliver wrote:
> Seth, your comments about the Quantum Crypto text are excellent
> and, on looking more closely, factually correct. I personally don't
> think such material has a place in a handbook like this but with
> y
We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor:
@rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm
doing + he told me they'll be making everything open source.
That's why I added the question mark, in case someone on the list knew
anymore (for example, whe
Copying Susan Alderson, VP of Informatics, Silent Circle who was also in the
meeting Eric and I referred to.
Susan, forwarding you a thread from the Liberation Tech discussion list about
Silent Circle source code, location of servers, etc. Please feel free to chime
in, and nice to meet you!
Can someone explain what this big secret briefing was? Are they making the PR
rounds in DC?
Yosem Companys wrote:
>We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan Gillmor:
>
>@rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm
>doing + he told me they'll be making
Here's my prediction: Silent Circle will not fundamentally change anything. It
will have no where near the impact that Phil's work on open cryptography
standards has. It may be a great niche product for businesses, professional
journalist groups and large NGOs looking for a turnkey solution. It
No secret briefing. An event with the Committee to Protect Journalists with
many people in attendance including staff from Silent Circle.
Katrin
On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Nathan wrote:
> Can someone explain what this big secret briefing was? Are they making the PR
> rounds in DC?
>
> Yos
Yep, I met with Silent Circle's CEO and other staff including Jon Callas for a
Slate piece I'm doing which I think might address some of the q's being raised
here. Was told quite categorically that everything will be made open source
after release. Also told me they have a white paper which
On 10/11/2012 5:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher wrote:
> To Nadim: I'm interested to know, did you contact anyone at SC before
> writing your blog post? Seems to me you arrived at your rather scathing
> conclusion largely on the basis of an assumption. A sort of shoot first,
> ask questions later approach. I
> On 10/11/2012 18:26 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside
> from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't
> made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open
> source. In fact, they have been very
http://annalist.noblogs.org/post/2012/10/12/one-year-later-german-police-unable-to-develop-state-trojan/
One year after the Chaos Computer Club found and analysed an illegal
trojan virus used by German police, the so-called “state trojan”, and
one year after the German Federal Minister of Justice,
Hi Nadim,
You didn't directly respond to Ryan's question. Have you actually spoken to
anyone at Silent Circle?
The Silent Circle App isn't available for download to the general public
yet. As such, I think the company can be forgiven for not having source
code available just yet. Why not wait unt
I'm sorry but this could easily refer to open source libraries, and
commonly does. I will update my blog post again once source code is
available, which should hopefully be when the app is released next week.
NK
On Oct 11, 2012 6:49 PM, "Ryan Gallagher" wrote:
>
> > On 10/11/2012 18:26 PM, Nadim
Hi Chris,
I regrettably did not speak to anyone from Silent Circle. This is
off-topic, but I find it kind of ironic for you to be asking me this; you
have written scathing critiques involving my own software efforts without
once contacting me, and I believe you to be much more guilty of "jumping
t
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Is this a case of people (lib tech/security community) trusting people of
"up-to-now good security community reputation" (Phil Zimmerman and Jon Callas)
combined with public statements (to the affect of "we will be releasing the
source code") comb
Hi all,
When considering the threat of legally compelled assistance, I think it is
useful to spell out the specific threats. The two big ones, IMHO, are
1. Compelled disclosure of data retained about users.
2. Compelled insertion of backdoors into the product.
Now, folks on this list are throwin
Ryan,
> mm. It says on the SC website that it will use
>"Open Source Peer-Reviewed Encryption,"
> "Peer Reviewed Encryption and Hashing Algorithms,"
> and also says "we believe in open source." Is that very ambiguous
As a reporter working on a "piece", you should make sure you understand the
di
Thanks for spelling it out, and Nathan.
NK
On Oct 11, 2012 8:12 PM, "Nathan" wrote:
> Ryan,
>
> > mm. It says on the SC website that it will use
> >"Open Source Peer-Reviewed Encryption,"
> > "Peer Reviewed Encryption and Hashing Algorithms,"
> > and also says "we believe in open source." Is that
Ryan Gallagher writes:
> > On 10/11/2012 18:26 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> > I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside
> > from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't
> > made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open
> > sou
Nathan writes:
> Like "organic", open-source is a term that is easily claimed but
> not often truly fulfilled. Nadim should be given more credit for the
> completely transparent and engaged open-source project he runs, and for
> defending an approach and philosophy that he is completely living up
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