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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Web:Introduction: Rename Our Goal box (issue 48430043
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:18 PM
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Subject: Merge conflict
I'm trying to create a 2.19.0 build and running into merge conflicts.
Following the CG, I've done:
git fetch
git checkout
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realized that I don't need to download these huge tarballs
anymore since I can build the docs myself from Git :-)
Urs
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released (kudos, by the way!!!), when is the unstable
branch going to be updated?
I like to be on the bleeding edge… ;)
Thanks,
Kieren.
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AFAICS it will be complaining about the directory below where the logfile is
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To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 11:29 AM
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I've decided to get
this for stable releases.
Google analytics should track this. If you can persuade GP to log in and
check
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and heading for trouble.
Well - since you're the only one running your specific environment, that's
generally true. With a VM that many of us run, it's not.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: contributing instructions are misleading!
Well - since you're the only one running your specific environment
the details of layout,
allowing them to focus on creating music.
and would be completely clear.
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To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org; Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net;
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:50 PM
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Le 01/01/2014 18:07, Urs
.
James
Hope that's clear.
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:29 PM
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On 20/12/13 10:45, Phil Holmes wrote:
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doc and check the entry is there - I _think_ it
should work, but best to be safe.
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Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Website
for new
or upcoming things. The website is for something we endorse and are proud
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: for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references
is a rather more exhaustive list...
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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Website
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Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Enable manual-specific styling
Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the
Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the
storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By accident you've just
used about 1/25 of our remaining quota.
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at 8:31 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/12/13 13:04, Phil Holmes wrote:
Thanks for what you're doing, but please don't put a lot of images on the
Google Issue tracker. For bizarre reasons only known to themselves, the
storage available for attachments is _very_ limited. By accident
- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Enable manual-specific styling of documentation; issue
available for me?
Urs
I _think_ the odd place of web in the manuals hierarchy is down to it
being the only part of the documentation that built using make website -
it has something of a split personality between being part of the
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no effect. As a result, I
concluded with skylining was the correct default.
However, an option similar to \pointAndClickOff would be simple and could be
handy: it could include a number of sensible attempted speed ups.
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the internet connection of the server. Any thoughts?
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From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
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Subject: Re: updates of .po files from FTP
David Kastrup d
it
and then push without countdown.
Remember, it's only wrong because you, me, David and everyone else who
contributes didn't notice it and correct it.
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degree finishes next Summer. However, there's
one thing I don't know: what should happen when you double-click a .ly file
in Explorer: open an editor or compile the file? And if the former, how
should the file be compiled?
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and the release process normally adds a tag automatically. Could someone
with more git knowledge than me do this, please?
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(because it's in the stable branch):
050744bbb706525840a3014cd72b06fde945fa4d
OK.
Yes, I have it here as well.
Hmm. So why do we have
commit 9918cd9f8d8f5461c6ad7e086fd93de59960eb95
Author: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Date: Sun Nov 24 22:05:16 2013 +
Release: bump VERSION
Author: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Date: Sun Nov 24 22:05:16 2013 +
Release: bump VERSION.
in the `master' branch? This looks incorrect to me, given that we
currently derive 2.17.9X tarballs from the `stable' branch, right?
VERSION is out of step on master and stable, so needs
(generally git
format-patch origin/master, iirc) well enough not to need it. So if there
are problems with it, they don't hit me, I'm afraid. I also find gitk is my
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only uses the colon; thin line; thick line; style of repeat, whether
it's a bar line or not.
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, although there are some
very long processes that may still be silent.
I've done hundreds of doc builds and never seen it hang. Best is to go make
a cup of coffee. You can also check CPU usage.
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compilers, but I don't know how
to fix it. It would seem it will need an update to midi-item.cc.
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- Original Message -
From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net
Cc: Heikki Tauriainen g034...@welho.com; Devel
lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: GUB failing
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
I'm getting
to be one where there could be something like additional
support for lily - typesetting maybe? and it's now fallen into disuse. If
you think it's important I could contact the maintainer of the site?
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From: James pkx1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Linux Audio link to 'Lilypond'
On 20/10/13 12:53, Phil Holmes wrote:
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for devs to monitor that list, and many of the users are good enough to
answer questions as they arise there - that would allow you to focus more
clearly on cleaning up the code ready for a 2.18 release.
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I deleted it for consistency. Feel free to add one in throughout as an
alternative form of consistency.
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not the resources to rebuild the Texlive
package in order to upgrade.
Is there any workaround other than locally revert Julien's commit?
TIA,
Jean-Charles
Could you use a virtual machine?
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automatically. Naming the first numbered backup file file~
will violate that expectation.
The expectation of the current code is that backups are overwritten.
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I presume Eluze put it in for a specific reason which I don't know. Eluze?
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This looks wrong to me:
\relative c'' {
\override NoteHead.style = #'mensural
\cadenzaOn
s1 a \longa a \breve a1 \bar |
\override NoteHead.style = #'blackmensural
s1 a \longa a \breve a1 \bar |
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To: Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net
Cc: Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Black mensural notehead bug
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
This looks wrong to me:
\relative c
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From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Black mensural notehead bug
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
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From
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From: Eluze elu...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Add backup option to convert-ly (Issue 3572) (issue 14040043)
Phil Holmes-2 wrote
On 2013/09/30 15:10:00, PhilEHolmes wrote:
Julien - I'm not convinced
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From: Eluze elu...@gmail.com
To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
Cc: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net;
LilyPond Development Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:26 PM
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definitly worked.
-Harm
It's on the Savannah site:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/lilypond.git/
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enhancement and his coding. Let's let him decide.
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These both need a bit of study to work out how to fix them. Can you raise an
issue for them, please?
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Cc: Graham Percival ; David Kastrup ; lilypond-devel
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:57 AM
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Unverified issues?
dak wrote
Phil Holmes lt;
mail@
gt; writes:
The issue tracker shows for
lt;URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list
. This could argue for a more rigorous approach to bug
acceptance: no example, no report.
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/windows
All those .rc files are Windows resource files in different languages. I've
no idea how it works, though.
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version; or ii) version that the update related to. Simplest is
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To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: LSR imports and version numbers?
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
The bumping of version numbers
think having a release of 2.18 ready in about three weeks seems
possible enough that we should try.
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I did mean to consider doing something like that with the most recent release,
but also forgot...
Please remember that new releases can require syntax changes. Please use
convert-ly (web link) to make most of these automatically.
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a useful piece of information.
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To: LilyPond Development Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org; David Kastrup
d...@gnu.org; Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net; Phil
Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
Sent: Thursday
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To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
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Cc: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; LilyPond Development Team
lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca
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Cc: LilyPond Development Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org; David Kastrup
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Cc: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org; Janek Warchoł
janek.lilyp...@gmail.com; LilyPond Development Team
lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Graham
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To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk; Phil Holmes
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Cc: LilyPond Development Team lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject
of using a VM is that it makes it much more
difficult/slow to run such local tests?
Not with current servers. GUB is built in a VM, much faster than most
people could do it natively.
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To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:40 PM
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enthusiastic
reception is that it would seem unlikely that anyone would want to devote
that amount of time. But if you were to do it, sure, I'm convinced we'd do
our best to take it on.
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we reject a patch (I don't
think we can fairly reject a patch unless we explain why)? Those
are significant costs.
What are the most common reasons for doc patch rejection?
Poor syntax; poor explanation; unnecessary; failure to compile; failure to
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without push access - these are very rare.
How hard is that?
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From: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org; David Kastrup d...@gnu.org; Julien
Rioux julien.ri...@gmail.com; LilyPond Developmet Team
lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com
there's a
lot of interleaving of notes and dynamics to be done, which is probably to
be expected with the more sophisticated skylining code. I'd conclude there
is no fundamental performance problem with our current build.
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From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Lilypond benchmarking
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
David made the comment that we'd no information on the performance of
the latest
2.12 - 162 pages; 2.14 - 147; 2.16 - 142; 2.17.26 - 158pp. 2.17 is noticeably
looser, but I concluded I'd adjust some of the spacing controls to fit more to
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From: James
To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, September 21
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Cc: James pkx1...@gmail.com; lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:12 PM
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Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
2.12 - 162 pages; 2.14
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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:37 PM
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To: Phil Holmes m
the
release once it is fixed. Just announcing this in case anyone is monitoring
release/unstable and wondering where the build is.
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From: Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net
To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:49 PM
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Phil Holmes email at philholmes.net writes:
Summary: 2.12 was very slow and unreliable on large scores. 2.14, 2.16
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Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:38 PM
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Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes:
I've done quite a bit of work trying to see what's going on and have
from
Rietveld. It's more work for the pusher, but can be done.
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I'll see whether I can get the full patchy (including docs) running tomorrow or
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To: LilyPond-Devel list
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: Patchy test and Countdowns
Hello
I'm having
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To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:59 PM
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Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
/usr/local/tmp/lilypond-extra/patches/compile_lilypond_test/__init__.py,
line 266, in runner
and it passed OK. I've
got a few minutes before leaving for a rehearsal - I'll try a clean make.
If the logfile is available, I'd like to see it.
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the binaries in a single pass. Further
immediate calls to make do nothing.
The only significant bug in this area that I'm aware of is that modifying
metafont files does not cause the font files to be rebuilt - we have to do
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into a menu entry confuses TexInfo - it thinks it's a
separator. How do we handle punctuation in headings?
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Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Documentation: punctuation in menus
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
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From
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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:58 PM
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Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
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From
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To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Documentation: punctuation in menus
Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net writes:
I'm having a go at
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id
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From: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Documentation: punctuation in menus
Phil Holmes wrote:
I understand
this same
problem yesterday with my normal development machine, but running 'git
remote prune origin' as suggested, fixed it. I can't seem to get the same
to work on my patchy VM.
Janek - can you fix this so that git fetch works, please?
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to run the pixel
regression script today to see whether that has the same problem.
The release is not fully announced yet, owing to it not completing before I
turned in last night, and my problems with patchy-staging.
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From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net
Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: Patchy email
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes:
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From: David Kastrup d
in
the latest development release. Any objections to me deleting this line and
pushing the change to staging?
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Are there special characters in TexInfo that represent a tab (i.e. a right
arrow) and a space? I'd like to update the CG on formatting metafont and
need to represent those two characters in text.
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Line 2 is likely to warn you you're in detached head status: that's fine.
Line 3 applies your patch to this breanch. Line 4 allows a graphical check
of what you've just done. Line 5 pushes it. Line 6 takes you back to the
master branch.
HTH.
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I always understood it was a default message to go on Rietveld, but I always
just close it without entering any message.
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When it's run by James (pkx) then make, make test (check the regression
tests) and make doc.
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complexity to the already over-complex build system.
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