Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-31 Thread Urs Liska
We'll think about this (and some more, when I'm back and we're ready with our current job ...). OK, Janek? Best Urs Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:  There are also a few advantages [of using MuseScore]: a)

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-31 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: We'll think about this (and some more, when I'm back and we're ready with our current job ...). OK, Janek? ok ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Ben Luo
Totally agree Wasil. A beautiful sheet, the syntax is only very small part. Lilypond make other default setting great. We just focus on music and syntax. These are the key of music. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.comwrote: There is a chance, but only when

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread mike
On 29 mai 2012, at 23:56, Lucas Gonze wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the musescore twitter account or

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Sorensen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke at gnu.org writes: Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Somebody who was willing to run a Kickstarter project and make it happen. The people who put the project together choose their tools,

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke at gnu.org writes: Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Somebody who was willing to run a Kickstarter project and make it happen. It is not

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Lucas Gonze
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I know I'm rehashing old ground, but I think that these projects stand to mutually benefit from each other if and only if they evolve in natural directions given their goals. ...  In general, the idea of LilyPond is to build a

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:  There are also a few advantages [of using MuseScore]: a) MusicXML export means the results are usable in a variety of notation   programs making use of an open standard. Indeed, having MusicXML exprort can give Lily more

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:31:49 +0200 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: musescore lands sponsoring? Message-ID: 87fwahu1lm@fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain Carl Sorensen carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: Jan

musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Jan -- Jan

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Nils
On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:15:08 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: A SponsorshipMeister is dangerously close to the premise that we can turn money into LilyPond. The truth is that we can turn enthusiasm into LilyPond. Money does prevent enthusiasm from working at a gas station. Nil

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge recognition to the community and gets a lot of people on board. A

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: David Kastrup writes: We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge recognition to the community and gets a

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Federico Bruni
2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: Just to make sure you have seen     http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes: 2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: Just to make sure you have seen    http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: Just to make sure you have seen     http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote: http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Federico Bruni
2012/5/29 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: What do you mean with technically superior? It's about the output? I think it's LilyPond output. Can you confirm? http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/node/191 This isn't Lily output, it's directly from MuseScore. You were fooled by the fact

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote: Just to make sure you have seen     http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of Tue May 29 09:56:14 +0200 2012: Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Just talking about my personal experience .. I personally can only say that I've tried teaching lilypond to

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Nils
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:15:31 +0200 Marc Weber marco-owe...@gmx.de wrote: Musecore fails to render some specific cases when printing - but exporting to lilypond seems to work in all (little) cases I tried. Thus for simple cases I like that combination: musescore for typing and lilypond for

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Lucas Gonze
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the musescore twitter account or something like this). It may still work, but we

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Hans Aikema
On 29-5-2012 23:16, Nils wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:15:31 +0200 Marc Webermarco-owe...@gmx.de wrote: Musecore fails to render some specific cases when printing - but exporting to lilypond seems to work in all (little) cases I tried. Thus for simple cases I like that combination: musescore

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Nick Payne
On 29/05/12 20:44, David Kastrup wrote: Jan Nieuwenhuizenjann...@gnu.org writes: How to turn enthousiasm into LilyPond, if people are unaware of it's existence. Long before we go SponsorshipMeister, I would suggest a PRMeister. I don't think that people are unaware of its existence.

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Lucas Gonze lucas.go...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the musescore twitter account or

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-05-29 10:36 PM, David Kastrup wrote: MuseScore is not a GUI for LilyPond, like LilyPond is not a frontend for PostScript. If it were a GUI for LilyPond, you could send a LilyPond file to a MuseScore guy, and he would make some amendments with MuseScore and send you back the changed

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Wasil Sergejczyk
There is a chance, but only when the syntax is *obvious* enough. Currently used syntax isn't obvious enough, but it won't be difficult to change it, i think. for me, as a beginner, notes syntax wasn't the difficult part (then again, i'm used to write programming code), but page layout,