anything
but music.
Maybe it would be a good idea to extend the sentence in the manual in
the following way:
... The result a music function returns must be music which is
compatible with the context in which it is called.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3955
James
This smells like a bug to me:
\version 2.18.2
\language english
\relative c' {
\cadenzaOn
a4 b cs d% accidental is printed
\cadenzaOff
\bar || % \time 4/4
e d cs b% accidental is NOT printed -- huh??
a b cs d% accidental is printed
}
I'm aware that \cadenzaOn will remember
On 14/06/14 10:20, James Harkins wrote:
This smells like a bug to me:
\version 2.18.2
\language english
\relative c' {
\cadenzaOn
a4 b cs d% accidental is printed
\cadenzaOff
\bar || % \time 4/4
e d cs b% accidental is NOT printed -- huh??
a b cs d% accidental
On 13/06/14 12:07, Johan Vromans wrote:
Hi,
In a construct like
\parenthesize g bes2.
how can I get the parens to include the dot?
-- Johan
For completeness
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3750
and
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=155
James
I am at a complete loss what to do about this slur. It collides with the
b-flat's accidental in a way that makes it hard to see what the slur is
supposed to be.
\version 2.18.2
\language english
\relative c {
\clef bass
\time 6/8
bf8 ( d' ) r8
bf,16 ( bf' ) d ( bf d bf )
}
I tried
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:16:27 PM HKT, Karol Majewski wrote:
Hi, James
How about:
\override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000
?
No difference here:
\version 2.18.2
\language english
\relative c {
\clef bass
\time 6/8
bf8 ( d' ) r8
\override Accidental.avoid-slur
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:22:57 PM HKT, Karol Majewski wrote:
And of course you have to increase region size. So it should be:
\override Slur.details.region-size = #5
\override Slur.details.accidental-collision = #1000
Thanks, all, for the suggestions.
Increasing the slur region ended up
to
typeset such notation in Lilypond?
It may be useful to provide small example (screenshot or scan) of what
this might look like to any non-guitarists that may then be able to give
you help.
James
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Matthew Collett m_collett at ihug.co.nz writes:
On 10/06/2014, at 4:28 am, David Kastrup dak at gnu.org wrote:
Please *never* take the mailing list off the cc without announcement.
Please *never* blame ordinary list users for the idiosyncratic behaviour of
the lilypond-user mailing
or not and then they will create a tracker for it.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list
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Lord and
has rather than attached to has. Is there a way to make that happen?
Hello,
See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/special-characters#ascii-aliases
and then
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/list-of-special-characters
This might help.
James
'( ... )),
(make-vector 2 '( ... )),
(make-vector 3 '( ... )),)
Or something - but then again, I am not the target audience for the IR :)
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this new information here help or not?
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ccing bug list
On 02/06/14 02:37, MarcM wrote:
I thought this bug had been reported but apparently not. I just recompiled
the same file with LilyPond_2.19.7 and the triplet line still collides with
either the fingering or with the slur.
\version 2.19.7
\language english
{
\relative d' {
in order for it to
mask the tie like I wanted. So basically the code I'm using now is what you
provided plus the addition of:
\override TextScript.layer = #2
Thanks for this!
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.comwrote:
2014-05-22 4:59 GMT+02:00 James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I'm trying to get the whiteout that is attached to the NoteHead to not
cover
the ledger line.
Use \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner.layer
- and after-break portions
of the slur.
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\override NoteHead.layer = #2
\once \override NoteHead.whiteout = ##t
f'''8 d'''4
} \oneVoice
c'''2.
}
}
Thanks,
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It appears that LilyPond 2.18.2 prints a warning if a trill pitch occurs
under a slur, regardless of the chance of collision.
\relative c' {
% OK
\pitchedTrill d2\startTrillSpan ~ e d4. r8\stopTrillSpan
% warning: Ignoring grob for slur: TrillPitchAccidental. avoid-slur not
set?
% But
Is it possible to use a text spanner in a \mark?
That is, accel... is about tempo, so it makes sense -- as with other
tempo marks -- to print it just once in the score (especially this score: 3
players, 3 staves). But it seems this is not possible with a text spanner.
hjh
Sent with
I was just toying with articulate.ly, to hear some trills, when I noticed
that it's starting the trill on the upper note. This is appropriate for
older music but dead wrong for contemporary music. (If not dead wrong,
then certainly generally wrong.)
How to configure this?
\include
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:38:43 PM HKT, James Harkins wrote:
I was just toying with articulate.ly, to hear some trills, when
I noticed that it's starting the trill on the upper note. This
is appropriate for older music but dead wrong for contemporary
music. (If not dead wrong, then certainly
I'm making that exercise for my students now** and found... the first group
of eighths after \unHideNotes is missing its beam. It omits 8th-note flags,
and it draws the stems as if it's going to beam them, but... no beam.
** Thanks, Pierre, for reminding me about \hideNotes!
\version 2.18.2
On Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:42:56 PM HKT, James Harkins wrote:
I think I see why... it's trying to beam a group of four 8ths,
where the first two are hidden. It'd be nicer if LilyPond could
detect the situation and just Do The Right Thing.
Just occurred to me -- a simple solution would
I want to create an exercise for some beginning composition students, where
I will provide some short melody fragments sprinkled through a longer
score. Most measures will be empty, but I want LilyPond to leave enough
space for the students to write in their own notes. I looked in the
notation
Steven Arntson steven at stevenarntson.com writes:
I may be getting in over my head with this question. I'm a new user of
Lilypond,
transitioning away from Musescore. I've
been using Frescobaldi a bit, and am impressed with it so far.
However, I see there's an Emacs mode available through
On Friday, 25 April 2014 15:59:16 HKT, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:
2014-04-25 7:29 GMT+02:00 James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com:
I have a case (attached) where LilyPond doesn't leave enough space for
an accidental.
Try :
\once\override NoteColumn.X-offset = #1
Perfect, thanks!
hjh
I have a case (attached) where LilyPond doesn't leave enough space for
an accidental.
This minimal example *almost* reproduces it. There's not an actual
collision here, but the space is uncomfortably small. If anything
forces narrower spacing (as in my full piece), they will crash into
each
Mark Mathias d8valily at gmail.com writes:
I also used to be managing editor of a music publisher in the days when
engraving was done with a re-built Olympia typewriter and hand-drawn slurs.
I would like to nominate this as the single most insane sentence to be posted
on this mailing list all
I'm writing a piece that will have a few cadenzas. In the cadenza
pseudo-bars, I want to print some kind of glyph where the time signature
would normally go, to indicate that this bar is unmetered.
My first thought was a 0, and I found in the manual that I can actually get
the 0 to appear in
On Apr 17, 2014 6:11 PM, David Stephen Grant da...@davidgrant.no wrote:
Gould recommends a cross together with a tempo marking senza misura.
Kurt Stone however recommends a zero.
Thanks. I had used a zero with a vertical bar through it back in school.
Hm, a choice then:
- Zero: Use a (perhaps
}
}
}
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Sorry, copy/paste/edit error: that should be:
\override TextScript.font-shape ...
James W.
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:42 PM, James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.netwrote:
Is there a way to override the italicness
in the Notation Reference.
As to the quote:
there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)
That implies that we're missing things in the NR that shoudl be in
there. If so then let the list know (lilypond-...@gnu.org) and that can
be fixed.
Thanks
James
Philip Rhoades phil at pricom.com.au writes:
People,
David took this discussion off-list and then accused me of not having
the guts to respond on-list . .
In an ideal world, I'd suppose that if one needs to preface an email with
grade-school playground ethics, one *might* take that as a
, but it still
exists here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/index.html
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Urs Liska ul at openlilylib.org writes:
Hi all Git users,
I'd like to make a survey on how you are working with Git.
Do you use the command line exclusively, or a GUI (which one(s))?
Or a GUI for certain tasks and the command line for others?
I don't have an opinion on git pedagogy. In
Joshua Nichols josh.d.nichols at gmail.com writes:
see attached. It was lengthy.
For future reference, probably you needed this, for case-insensitive
searching.
fc-list | grep -i libertine
hjh
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good fellow; and so say all of us!
\o/
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On Sunday, December 22, 2013 5:07:11 PM HKT, Simon Bailey wrote:
I also support this request. Another reason is that in many parts of
percussion instruments, say, there is `tacet' for a very long time,
e.g. from rehearsal number 20 to 76. A potential new implementation
of \compressFullBarRests
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmillan at sympatico.ca writes:
I don't understand why, if you want a four measure rest you would
write 2+2. For the vast majority of cases, if there are 48 bars between
two rehearsal marks I'm happy to see |=48=| between them. So, why write
anything but R1*48 in
In case anybody is working on musicxml2ly:
I just found that it doesn't handle the case of an XML document where the
title node exists, but is empty. I've uploaded a zip archive of two
musicxml documents.
http://ubuntuone.com/0iNRBh17UxPJWlVJikFYVD
** 13-1220-li-xuanyi.xml -- The original
On Dec 21, 2013 5:56 PM, pls p.l.schm...@gmx.de wrote:
On 21.12.2013, at 09:14, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
I just found that it doesn't handle the case of an XML document where
the title node exists, but is empty. I've uploaded a zip archive of two
musicxml documents.
we fixed
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmillan at sympatico.ca writes:
Hello all,
Consider this snippet:
\version 2.17.97
theMusic = {
\compressFullBarRests
R1*2
R1*2
}
\score {
\theMusic
}
Here’s my request: I would love it if \compressFullBarRests actually did
what it says it
James Harkins jamshark70 at gmail.com writes:
FWIW, I agree with Kieren. If I saw a part with some multimeasure rests
broken for no obvious reason, e.g.
{ \compressFullBarRests \mark \default R1*2 R1*2 \mark \default R1*2 }
I would think the publisher was insane or incompetent. I'm
I was just searching, without success, for a way to change the number of
pulses-per-quarter in MIDI output. The default, 384, handles double
divisions and triplets, but quintuplets are inexact. I would rather use 480
for this particular file.
The section in the notation reference on the \midi
Hello All,
I am getting a very persistent Cannot Find Voice: Tenor error when
compiling my code.
I attempted to construct my code almost identically to the second example
in the Learning Manual 3.2.3 Voices and Vocals (here:
Hello all!
Is is possible in LilyPond to create a score where empty measures are
invisible? I'm looking for
something similar to Crumb's score for Vox Balaenae (seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=D8zxHNG1dWo). Any help is greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
J.D.
space for the invisible extra bit of the duration.
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Sam Whited s...@samwhited.com wrote:
On 12/16/2013 12:38 PM, James Worlton wrote:
Your last chord in the \harmonies variable is still set at duration '2'.
Wow, that's almost embarrasing. Thanks for that; just one of those
things I should have noticed
On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:52:08 PM HKT, David Kastrup wrote:
James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com writes:
Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in
mind. Although, he suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I
think it could be more than that. Suppose we introduce
Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonmark at ca.rr.com writes:
The Lilypond website presents “Manuals” that when clicked displays a page
that starts with “Text Input … Read this first.”
That hot link goes to a page that has a section titled “Easier editing
environments.” A hot link takes one to a list
On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:
Mr. Harkins,
Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows
directions.
Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns on the internet.
(As in, you still think people read and follow
On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:02:31 PM HKT, James Harkins wrote:
On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com
wrote:
Mr. Harkins,
Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows
directions.
Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns
A side comment, picking up on a comment in the Windows experience thread:
I hope the new site will avoid any hooks to Google analytics or other APIs.
I'm behind the Great Firewall of China, and I see frequently how Google
dependencies cause page loading times to balloon, while the browser waits
' but for Windows?
James
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Picking up on a comment of Kieren's, which I think doesn't need to hijack
David's financial support thread...
I find LilyPond's model of time to be the most inconvenient aspect of the
input format -- so inconvenient that it alone may be enough to drive people
away.
Time is represented
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
LilyPond's strengths are what it is able to do automatically:
transpositions, partial partitures, catering to different page formats,
fast adaption to different orchestras... Your score is _malleable_.
LilyPond excels at *vertical* malleability, but it's
Keith OHara k-ohara5a5a at oco.net writes:
Of course specifying time in terms of durations is more convenient
than specifying absolute time, or we would need to change every
following note when we insert a few measures.
Assuming that durations and absolute time are the only two options. I'm
(using $note) from
earlier in the thread. Could you point me to the proper location? I want to
understand this.
Thanks,
James W
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#note with $note in both cases in the function and it works
properly. Thanks!
I need to go back and re-read the part about the difference between # and $
in Scheme variables...
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(and remembering to use absolute mode in the input), but it would be nice
if the function would produce the correct output. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
James Worlton
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From David K.:
Gmail's default setting is _not_ to secretly append all of an old
posting to your new mail.
Actually, the default behavior in gmail's web interface is very close to
appending the quote secretly. It used to show the quote, but now reply
gives you an almost completely empty frame
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote:
tagline = ##f
will get rid of the tagline.
Using -dpreview on the command line will provide trimmed images. Be a
little careful with this, since it sometimes trims a little too much.
Thanks. For future reference, it's
Any org-babel-lilypond users out there?
I've just managed successfully to get lilypond to compile a png from an org
source block and include it in a beamer frame.
However, lilypond is generating a full-size A4 page, but these are very
short examples and I'd like them to be trimmed
the use of markups, etc
Or, perhaps a compromise is available?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Sincerely,
Josh
I've heavily adapted this snippet for my own use. It should be a starting place
at least to develop your own.
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=368
James Worlton
} }
\new Lyrics {\lyricsto one {R L R L R L R L }}
\new Lyrics {\lyricsto one { L R L R L R L R }}
}
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jim Long lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:04:13AM -0500, James Worlton wrote:
This solution is also kind of hacky, but it looks like it may do more or
less what you want. It also scales pretty well to other staff sizes. I'm
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner
This part of the manual shows how you can change the part combine text.
James Worlton
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using partcombine and am looking
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:
At 08:50 on 11 Oct 2013, James Worlton wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using partcombine and am looking for a way to add a text marking
when automatic combining
On Friday, September 27, 2013 4:04:36 PM HKT, Richard Shann wrote:
My music only seldom follows common practice tonality,
The built-in support is for any range (e.g. E-flat to G-sharp, or D to
F-double-sharp), with the modulation controller on the MIDI keyboard
changing the range sharper or
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
It's been some time since I last tried, but the basic answer I arrived
at for myself was don't bother. The tools are not good enough right
now to save time.
I have to agree with David here.
When I first started looking at LilyPond, one of my first
On Sep 27, 2013 12:10 AM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net wrote:
Since introducing this I have had zero enharmonic misspellings in my
transcriptions. But this might not be suitable for some sorts of music,
I confess.
My music only seldom follows common practice tonality, so I'd have to
at it too:
http://lilypondblog.org/2013/09/using-musical-symbols-in-text-documents/
Maybe this could be a trigger to consider switching to LaTeX?
Best
Urs
I'll give my support to this! I installed an earlier version and have been
using it in a text project and it's great. Thanks, Urs!
James
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
Well yes, a thread is logically a _tree_. A chronological sort only
renders a list, and that's just not useful for tracking a particular
conversation to its start.
FWIW, I receive the digest and when I want to reply to a message, I use gmane.
It's
Patrick or Cynthia Karl pckarl at mac.com writes:
Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:56:09 +0200
From: Eluze eluzew at gmail.com
To: lilypond-user at gnu.org
Subject: Re: Overall (global) resizing difficulties
Message-ID: 522F4F29.9010607 at gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain;
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmillan at sympatico.ca writes:
can I ask what the \global tag is doing in your snippet? It seems
to me like it's laying out a map of the time signature change in a piece.
Is
this the recommended way to go about this? Up till now I've just written
all
the time
Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes:
I think a lot of us simply use the Dutch standard of es for a flat and is
for a sharp - I certainly do.
I'll be bold and disagree. G-flat is ges in Dutch (3 characters) and gf in
English (2 characters). If you're typesetting a piece in D-flat major,
On Aug 19, 2013 11:36 PM, Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com wrote:
They take up space but don't /do/ anything in
return for the extra finger effort.
But they _do_ do something in Nederlands for people whose language it is.
Sure, but I was responding to a comment from a native English
On Aug 4, 2013 5:30 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Me too. As a singer it looks exactly what I would expect. That's the
way all vocal music is laid out - with syllables left-aligned on tied
and slurred notes, wherever they appear.
How is it done in jazz lead sheets?
My
On Aug 5, 2013 11:07 AM, Carl Peterson carlopeter...@gmail.com wrote:
Seeing a column of flush-left syllables in the middle of a line of lyrics
when there are 3-5 verses just looks *bad*, even if it is technically
correct.
:-D
Anyway, I'll take the vocalists' word for it. I still believe any
On Aug 5, 2013 1:39 PM, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote:
Isolated, your example looks perfect to me. I think what's making it
look ugly to you is probably that it makes the spacing suddenly wider in
an otherwise fairly-tight score.
Sure, that sounds right. I don't think I will
Eluze eluzew at gmail.com writes:
However, the same thing happens at the end of a system, forcing the note
column far to the left of where I would expect it to appear.
see
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/snippets-big-page#text-aligning-
syllables-with-melisma
By default,
I ran into the attached spacing problem while typesetting a lead sheet. I
can't make a minimal example right this second; will try in the next couple
of days.
When a tied note has a lyric syllable, LP (2.16.1) left aligns the syllable
to the note, on the assumption that tied-to note column will
\tuplet 3/2 { c8 c c } c2
This error does not appear if both parts are on the same pitch.
The file compiles correctly in both cases. Is this a known issue?
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I should add that the error also appears when using \times 2/3 in place of
\tuplet 3/2
James Worlton
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58 PM, James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com wrote:
This simple example shows an error in the console:
\version 2.17.22
notesA = \relative c' {
e4 \tuplet 3/2 { e8
Answered my own question. It's issue 245, so it's been around for quite a
while. Sorry for the noise.
James W
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:01 PM, James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com wrote:
I should add that the error also appears when using \times 2/3 in place of
\tuplet 3/2
James Worlton
MarcM marc at mouries.net writes:
I'm using nabble to post to lilypond and i had added the lilypond code. Are
you not seeing it?
Nabble has a really horrible, careless, stupid bug where it omits everything
inside CODE tags from the mails it sends to the list. I've seen this on the
I don't know if this has been reported (I don't recall seeing mention of it
on the list) -- links to PDF examples in older blog posts still point to
the WordPress site. This makes them inaccessible to readers in mainland
China (such as myself). I have a proxy on my laptop but not on my tablet;
the accidental is repeated because we are in a new measure and the natural
sign avoids the accidental of the top voice.
when the notes are tied the accidental is not repeated but it seems like
LilyPond still reserves some space for it.
I tried to set the Accidental stencil to false but
Is this a known bug?
It looks like LP is trying to avoid a collision between the natural sign in the
top staff's voiceTwo and the sharp sign in the bottom staff. But of course they
are nowhere near touching, so there should be no need for collision avoidance.
(Sorry I'm on a slightly older
Nice. But where are the images of the score?
;)
On 12 Jun 2013, at 19:09, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote:
Hi,
I put some images up at the public url
https://plus.google.com/b/109917054452640897824/109917054452640897824/posts/jPRaUgF34ma
and I hope to get more publicity
Hello
On 12 Jun 2013, at 20:50, Julien Rioux jri...@lyx.org wrote:
On 12/06/2013 2:27 PM, James wrote:
Nice. But where are the images of the score?
;)
http://www.liedboek.nl/voorbeelden/proefbundel
It looks really nice :)
--
Julien
Correct me if I am wrong
Janek Warchoł janek.lilypond at gmail.com writes:
2013/5/31 Janek Warchoł janek.lilypond at gmail.com:
this cannot wait any longer: there has to be a LilyPond blog.
Unless someone has a better idea, i'm going to create a blog on
WordPress.com tomorrow morning.
and it's time for a
{ }
}
Ideas?
thanx - steve
\grace has issues when it is the first thing in a measure (it's in the
docs). If you add:
\grace s16
in the guitarthree part at the same musical moment it should compile
correctly.
James Worlton
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lilypond-user
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
This bugs me because a/ I tend to read text and skim examples
You stop reading text in mid-sentence because it contains code?
Nice try, but I won't take that bait.
and (more importantly) b/ it's imprecise. Here, I was left to guess
about the
Urs Liska ul at openlilylib.org writes:
In the first line of that page you're directed
tohttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/
Documentation/notation/special-characters#ascii-aliases
where the first example uses\paper {
#(include-special-characters)
}
I see it now. It wasn't obvious to
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes:
I see it now. It wasn't obvious to me that the special character
aliases wouldn't work without enabling them in the paper block.
A list of ASCII aliases for special characters can be included:
\paper {
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