Re: New LilyPond website

2017-03-03 Thread Phil Holmes
Subject: Re: New LilyPond website If I have a patch for an update of the css for the existing site, where can I submit it? -- John Roper Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist Boston MA, USA http://jmroper.com

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-03-03 Thread John Roper
If I have a patch for an update of the css for the existing site, where can I submit it? -- John Roper Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist Boston MA, USA http://jmroper.com/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Paul
On 02/22/2017 02:14 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote: What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library dependencies, etc.), one that offers

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote: > What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up > with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library > dependencies, etc.), one that offers responsive design for smaller screens, > etc.

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-19 Thread Paul
Forgot the Haunt static site generator link: https://haunt.dthompson.us/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-19 Thread Paul
On 02/14/2017 01:50 AM, Graham Percival wrote: If we switched from texinfo to a different static website generator, I suspect it would be pelican, gitbook, or hugo -- existing projects with thousands of users and a thriving developer community. Haunt is also interesting, from a minimizing

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mar 14 feb 2017 alle 7:50, Graham Percival ha scritto: I would be very surprised if LilyPond ever switched to Blended -- that would be increasing our technical debt, not reducing it. If we switched from texinfo to a different static website generator, I

Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 05:04:07PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il giorno gio 9 feb 2017 alle 0:11, John Roper ha > scritto: > >Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on > >http://jmroper.com/lilypond > > > >I am keeping the source for the website in >

translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-13 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno gio 9 feb 2017 alle 0:11, John Roper ha scritto: Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on http://jmroper.com/lilypond I am keeping the source for the website in https://github.com/johnroper100/LilyPond-Web-Redesign Hi John Before adding

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed > lilybin? If not I am not going to bother to try. Maybe crosscheck with the lilybin site owner? I seem to vaguely remember that we don't link to it from the current LilyPond page

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi John I think that, as long as lilypond runs on lilybin server, embedding lilybin is ok.Il 13 feb 2017 01:39 John Roper ha scritto: > > For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If > not I am not going to bother to try. > > On Sun, Feb

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If not I am not going to bother to try. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 13.02.2017 00:52, John Roper wrote: > >> I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.02.2017 00:52, John Roper wrote: I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin integration. I marvel at your persistence and interest. Thanks a lot! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin integration. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-12 Thread John Roper
On Feb 10, 2017 7:54 AM, "Johan Vromans" wrote: On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:51:05 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote: > The ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Johan Vromans
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:51:05 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote: > The new page is about 1.3 MB while the original one is about 170 kB > Factor of 7.x This is due to CSS/JS overhead and happens only once. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Michael Gerdau
> in total. After enabling scripts this problem vanishes. > > In Vivaldi I don't see the background image at the top of the page > at all. > > > I test using all major browsers including Vivaldi (my main browser) and > I am not getting any of these issues. Hmm. What is that to

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-10 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 14:32:18 -0800, "H. S. Teoh" wrote: > I don't speak for anyone else, but I'm perfectly OK with using > Javascript -- as long as it's not *required* for the website to be > usable at all. And all necessary javascript is loaded from the site itself, not

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Marc Mouries
+ 1 to include lilybin not just a link but include the ability to try lilypond directly from the browser without having to open another window. Like the Haskell or like the ruby lang website ( https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ see the link on the right "Try Ruby") . 2 user stories 1. a ) as a

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
> > in total. After enabling scripts this problem vanishes. > > In Vivaldi I don't see the background image at the top of the page at all. > I test using all major browsers including Vivaldi (my main browser) and I am not getting any of these issues. -- John Roper Freelance Developer and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Michael Gerdau
> Ok, I changed the image to something that made more sense. What do you > guys think about everything else? I've looked at it with current versions of Firefox and Vivaldi: On Firefox without allowing scripts all the boxes "Download 2.18.2", "Release Notes" at the top are partly overlapping and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 23:50, u...@openlilylib.org wrote: Urs Best user that and why for this page to be viewed JavaScript has to be switched on. requires JavaScript but has a decent option, telling the What I can imagine would work well is that a given "Try it out" page for the website to work

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:34:38PM -0500, John Roper wrote: >Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because >most of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but >did not bring it up. I would love to though. > >On Feb 9, 2017 5:12 PM, "Bernardo

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
On 09/02/2017 17:34, John Roper wrote: > Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because most > of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but did > not bring it up. I would love to though. I think as long as the website has a fallback option without js, and js

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because most of the users don't like using it. I had that idea already but did not bring it up. I would love to though. On Feb 9, 2017 5:12 PM, "Bernardo Barros" wrote: > lilybin.com could be included into the

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Bernardo Barros
lilybin.com could be included into the official website as part of its new design. Something like "Try it - Type Haskell expressions in here" in Haskell website https://www.haskell.org/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Marc Mouries
First, I want to thank John for his contribution. The new design looks more modern and gives a feeling that lilypond's community is alive. I deal with UI at work on a daily basis and no two persons will agree on the look and feel of a website of application. So IMHO we should focus on making sure

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 08:35, Mats Behre wrote: On 2017-02-09 07:41, Werner LEMBERG wrote: . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. I would actually recommend not specifying a specific font at all. This leaves the font selection to the user (and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 14:52, David Kastrup wrote: John Roper writes: The standard human does not want to read that much text. Which makes the standard human unsuitable for working with LilyPond Taking everything literally is not going to help communication, David. The

Re: Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Mats Behre
On 2017-02-09 07:41, Werner LEMBERG wrote: . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. I would actually recommend not specifying a specific font at all. This leaves the font selection to the user (and we will not have to debate the choice

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
I just pushed a new version of Blended which allows you to get other (HTML) file contents as variables. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
> > It's also worth noting that only part of a website's job is to garner > initial interest (and it requires referals to be found in the first > place). Another is as a portal for people who already know what > LilyPond is and want to get work done. I belive that my design does both. The

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: > I changed the header size to be smaller. As for the overall design, again, > the front page of the website is supposed to make the user want to take a > look at it. A design such as this does that while a page full of serif text > and two images does

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread ul
Am 2017-02-09 13:43, schrieb John Roper: > I changed the header size to be smaller. As for the overall design, > again, the front page of the website is supposed to make the user want > to take a look at it. A design such as this does that while a page full > of serif text and two images does

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread John Roper
I changed the header size to be smaller. As for the overall design, again, the front page of the website is supposed to make the user want to take a look at it. A design such as this does that while a page full of serif text and two images does not. As for the separation of templates and content,

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 09 Feb 2017 09:44:58 +0100 (CET), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > What I want is the explicit command line that I > have to call to convert the input data in the git repository to the > output html, where to expect the output files, etc., so that I can > actually try to generate

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux there's *no* problem. >> >>Indeed, sigh. This is one of the reasons I don't like working with >>HTML. Hopefully Blended can be improved to completely hide such >>issues for Joe User. > > I assume this doesn't have anything to do with Blender (or

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.02.2017 um 09:44 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> . At the top, I get something like the attached image (using >>> Chrome), regardless of the magnification. This looks bad. Isn't >>> it possible to have the button size changed dynamically? >> Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> . At the top, I get something like the attached image (using >> Chrome), regardless of the magnification. This looks bad. Isn't >> it possible to have the button size changed dynamically? > > Just for the record: With Firefox on Linux there's *no* problem. Indeed, sigh. This is one of

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Urs Liska
Hi John, Am 09.02.2017 um 07:41 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >> Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond Thanks for putting this up, it's very helpful to have it that way. Of course you will probably get 20 different opinions from 15 users and

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on > http://jmroper.com/lilypond Thanks. First, some comments regarding the layout. . I like the sans-serif font more that you've used in the previous version. Please restore it. . At the top, I get something like the attached image

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Shane Brandes
The opening page is over 50% header vertically. The rest of the pages seem decently proportioned. The 1px grey lines around the music examples might be nicer not present at all. Did I ever mention how much sans serif in block text is irritating. Yes I was going to make a suggestion for a nice

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread John Roper
Ok, I changed the image to something that made more sense. What do you guys think about everything else? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > John Roper writes: > >>> >>> >> John, can you set up >>> >> >>> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ >>> >> >>> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the >>> >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.02.2017 00:11, John Roper wrote: Ok, you can see the most current version of my design on http://jmroper.com/lilypond Of course there would be much to do on the details (e.g. I also don’t much fancy the title image with the violinist), but since this is about the design, I’ve got to

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: >> >> >> John, can you set up >> >> >> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ >> >> >> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the >> >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I >> >> think only a direct

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-08 Thread John Roper
> > >> John, can you set up > >> > >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ > >> > >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the > >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I > >> think only a direct comparison can answer our questions. > Ok, you can see the

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> John, can you set up >> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ >> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I >> think only a direct comparison can answer our questions. > > Yes I can. I also have a Github

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-07 Thread John Roper
> > John, can you set up > > http://jmroper.com/lilypond/ > > with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the > source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I think > only a direct comparison can answer our questions. > Yes I can. I also have a Github

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML >> site generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, >> Textile, Plain Text (.txt), and Microsoft Word (.docx). >> >> http://jmroper.com/blended > > I am not convinced that that changing our HTML generation is

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 05:31:20AM -0500, John Roper wrote: > OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML site > generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, Textile, Plain > Text (.txt), and Microsoft Word (.docx). > > http://jmroper.com/blended I am not

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-06 Thread David Kastrup
Bernardo Barros writes: > https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2016/fall/so-heres-the-thing-free-software-isnt-cool Well, the GPL is about staying in control. Of course that isn't cool compared to the hippies lacing Apples with BSD as if there was no tomorrow. -- David

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-06 Thread Bernardo Barros
https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2016/fall/so-heres-the-thing-free-software-isnt-cool ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Ok, since I am not apparently getting _any_ answers but just unrelated buzzphrases pasted to the top of the quoted communication time and again, I will briefly point out first how we communicate on this list. One quotes the _pertinent_ part of the documentation first, then adds one's answers

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread John Roper
I wrote the Blended system to fit all of the requirements for redesigning the website (not documentation) for LilyPond. A nice side effect was that I can use it for other things. On Feb 4, 2017 5:59 PM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > John Roper writes: > > >> On

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:46 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> John Roper writes: >>> >>> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Urs Liska

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 04.02.2017 um 22:16 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Separating website content from general documentation should definitely >>> be an option. >> What advantages do you expect from it? > > Breaking the technical tie between documentation and website makes

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.02.2017 um 22:16 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Separating website content from general documentation should definitely >> be an option. > What advantages do you expect from it? Breaking the technical tie between documentation and website makes it possible to update the (much smaller) website

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread John Roper
Design update. It looks better and attracts more users to the software. On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:46 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > John Roper writes: > > >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> > >>> Urs Liska

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
John Roper writes: >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> >>> > Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico Bruni: >>> >> Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper >>> >>

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread Simon Albrecht
A: Because it messes with the order in which people read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? Just sayin’… :-) Best, Simon On 04.02.2017 22:21, John Roper wrote: It is easier for users to write and it looks better. Blended exports human-readable files. Look at the website.

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread John Roper
It is easier for users to write and it looks better. Blended exports human-readable files. Look at the website. http://jmroper.com/blended/ On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Urs Liska writes: > > > Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico Bruni: >> Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper >> ha scritto: >>> OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML >>> site generator that builds from HTML,

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-04 Thread John Roper
Blended now has support for *eleven* markup languages and it has a new website! http://jmroper.com/blended/ On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:39 PM, John Roper wrote: > There is a template system. You setup page templates and Blended inserts > the text from any file into that

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-03 Thread John Roper
There is a template system. You setup page templates and Blended inserts the text from any file into that template. On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > > > Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico Bruni: > > Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper >

Re: Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico Bruni: > Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper > ha scritto: >> OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML >> site generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, >> Textile, Plain Text

Blended, static site generator [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

2017-02-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper ha scritto: OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML site generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, Textile, Plain Text (.txt), and Microsoft Word (.docx).

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-03 Thread John Roper
OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML site generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText, Textile, Plain Text (.txt), and Microsoft Word (.docx). http://jmroper.com/blended Is that versatile enough for you? Also, how do you handle translations? On

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:31:39PM -0500, John Roper wrote: >Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign >(not including the docs)? >I know of: >Not reliant on JavaScript >Can be translated >Can be updated with each new build There's a few

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web > redesign (not including the docs)? > > I know of: > > Not reliant on JavaScript > Can be translated > Can be updated with each new build If possible, try an incremental approach! I'm quite sure that you can achieve almost

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-02 Thread Paul
On 02/02/2017 09:31 PM, John Roper wrote: Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign (not including the docs)? Hi, I'll defer to Graham and others on this (cc'd). Probably best to start a new thread for this question on the developer's list:

Re: New LilyPond website

2017-02-02 Thread John Roper
Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign (not including the docs)? I know of: Not reliant on JavaScript Can be translated Can be updated with each new build -- John Roper Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist Boston, MA USA http://jmroper.com/

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Johan Vromans
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:54:16 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote: > I'm fine with using javascript on any site as long as I who generally > and deliberately disables javascript can still use that site. I'd like to add: There is good value in javascript for web sites. However, an

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Shane Brandes
I think John has accomplished a lot of useful things. Chiefly exposing to the rest of the community the nontrivial nature of maintenance for the LilyPond website. He also has demonstrated that we appreciate useful progress or improvement but also are clearly interested in why that should

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Michael Gerdau
> >And my view is, if > > > > you refuse to use JavaScript, or try to run a defunct browser, that's > > your problem. > > That is my view too. I understand about your blind users, but you can > view a javascript-enabled website with a text website. It is possible. Refusing to use javascript has

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Urs Liska
Hi John, Am 11.12.2016 um 22:36 schrieb John Roper: > I would really love to help, but I can spend the time fighting with > every single person on the thread. > Please let me share some personal memories with you. You may know that I am one of the longer-lasting and pretty active people in the

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread John Roper
I would really love to help, but I can spend the time fighting with every single person on the thread. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread John Roper
>> Why this unwarranted hostility? ? >And my view is, if > you refuse to use JavaScript, or try to run a defunct browser, that's your > problem. That is my view too. I understand about your blind users, but you can view a javascript-enabled website with a text website. It is possible.

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Chris Yate
On 11 Dec 2016 07:23, "David Kastrup" wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> I just don't think I am the best person for the job. >> >> Roper has finally posted something I agree with. > > Why this unwarranted hostility? His final design was sound, and I > think we

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 11.12.2016 um 08:23 schrieb David Kastrup: Werner LEMBERG writes: I just don't think I am the best person for the job. Roper has finally posted something I agree with. Why this unwarranted hostility? His final design was sound, and I think we should adapt some key

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 11. Dezember 2016 08:07:04 MEZ, schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >>> I just don't think I am the best person for the job. >> >> Roper has finally posted something I agree with. > >Why this unwarranted hostility? His final design was sound, and I >think we should adapt some key

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> I just don't think I am the best person for the job. >> >> Roper has finally posted something I agree with. > > Why this unwarranted hostility? His final design was sound, and I > think we should adapt some key elements. And even if you think it was >

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I just don't think I am the best person for the job. > > Roper has finally posted something I agree with. Why this unwarranted hostility? His final design was sound, and I think we should adapt some key elements. And even if you think it was not, you shouldn't word it like that.

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-10 Thread Ivan Kuznetsov
Roper has finally posted something I agree with. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:29 PM, John Roper wrote: > I just don't think > I am the best person for the job. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.12.2016 23:01, John Roper wrote: Am 07.12.2016 um 11:24 schrieb Phil Holmes: it would be too much effort to fix something so minor > From my naive point of view, there is something inherently wrong with a website system if it is too much effort to correct a typo... Joram LOL doesn't

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-07 Thread John Roper
>>Am 07.12.2016 um 11:24 schrieb Phil Holmes: >> it would be too much effort to fix something so minor >From my naive point of view, there is something inherently wrong with a >website system if it is too much effort to correct a typo... >Joram LOL doesn't this sound familiar?

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-05 Thread Paul
On 12/03/2016 04:24 PM, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 08:10:17PM -0500, Paul wrote: I just wish that working with texinfo (for the website) was more intuitive for contributors who know HTML but not texinfo. For example, an HTML element with an id and also a number of classes,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-04 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 2016-12-03 11:38 Urs Liska ha scritto: Am 3. Dezember 2016 11:42:35 MEZ, schrieb Federico Bruni : Il giorno gio 1 dic 2016 alle 1:48, John Roper ha scritto: Why specifically do we *need* to use textinfo? If I could make a new system that would

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-04 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 03/12/2016 à 22:28, Graham Percival a écrit : On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:50:50PM +0100, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: I've already given it a try, but get stopped by some errors I don't know how to resolve (I've no knowledge about perl). Three patches are available for anybody willing to

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: >>From: Graham Percival >>Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 3:35 PM >> >>If there was a single mentor for the new contributor, and if other >>people didn't make well-intentioned but ultimately misleading >>suggestions, we could

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 04:06:53AM +, Karlin High wrote: > >From: Graham Percival > >Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 3:35 PM > > > >If there was a single mentor for the new contributor, and if other > >people didn't make well-intentioned but ultimately misleading

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Karlin High
>From: Graham Percival >Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 3:35 PM > >If there was a single mentor for the new contributor, and if other >people didn't make well-intentioned but ultimately misleading >suggestions, we could have avoided 95% of this mess. Dunno quite,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 03:39:58PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:08:00PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > On 03.12.2016 22:35, Graham Percival wrote: > > >A wiki is never the right answer. > > > > Please elaborate :-) Because it’s too open for everyone to alter? > >

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:08:00PM +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 03.12.2016 22:35, Graham Percival wrote: > >A wiki is never the right answer. > > Please elaborate :-) Because it’s too open for everyone to alter? Because "somebody else" will fix it. Also, it adds yet one more place that

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 03.12.2016 22:35, Graham Percival wrote: On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 08:45:30PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Karlin High writes: I like Urs Liska's idea of having a wiki or contributor guide entry for web developer work. Yes, it makes sense. A wiki is never the right

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 08:45:30PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Karlin High writes: > > > I like Urs Liska's idea of having a wiki or contributor guide entry for > > web developer work. > > Yes, it makes sense. A wiki is never the right answer. Karlin's suggestion of

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:50:50PM +0100, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: > I've already given it a try, but get stopped by some errors I don't know how > to resolve (I've no knowledge about perl). Three patches are available for > anybody willing to help me… I can compile the English version,

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 08:10:17PM -0500, Paul wrote: > I just wish that working with texinfo (for the website) was more intuitive > for contributors who know HTML but not texinfo. For example, an HTML > element with an id and also a number of classes, all used for styling it > with CSS. I don't

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread Noeck
Am 03.12.2016 um 11:42 schrieb Federico Bruni: > At least we would have a concise list of requirements for the next > person who will offer to renovate the website. A good suggestion. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: New LilyPond website

2016-12-03 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 12/3/2016 4:42 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: >> John, you resisted more than I would have expected. I wonder if we'll >> ever see "the best person for _this_ job". > > And, I have been admiring John's patience and flexibility. He faced more > resistance

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