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On Wed 22 Nov 2017 at 11:43:37 (+0100), Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 20.11.2017 18:12, Hilary Snaden wrote: > >If there are any "graphical tools" as good as LaTeX, I'll be > >interested to hear of them. > > Adobe InDesign is certainly in many ways a “better” tool than LaTeX, > in some “just as

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on the topic of "graphical tools": an alternative to InDesign would be Scribus, which also has "render frames" to include lilypond code https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Help:Manual_Renderframes#Lilypond greetings Arne -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

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On 20.11.2017 18:12, Hilary Snaden wrote: If there are any "graphical tools" as good as LaTeX, I'll be interested to hear of them. Adobe InDesign is certainly in many ways a “better” tool than LaTeX, in some “just as good” (like with the line breaking algorithms that it learned from TeX),

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On 17/11/17 22:59, Brett M. Gilio wrote: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than graphical tools? I currently use a Raspberry Pi 3 with Ubuntu 16.04 to run LilyPond, as my primary boxes run

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Am 2017-11-20 um 09:53 schrieb David Kastrup : > Sure. It's part of the cost of using TeX as a programming language. > All the important and/or costly things when running plain TeX are > executed in Pascal and the respective data kept there. > > But LaTeX does a lot of programming

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Urs Liska writes: > Am 20.11.2017 um 09:34 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> Am 19.11.2017 um 23:43 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: On 2017-11-19 5:28 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > Font selection, language support, UTF-8 input…

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Am 20.11.2017 um 09:34 schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 19.11.2017 um 23:43 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: On 2017-11-19 5:28 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: Font selection, language support, UTF-8 input… All of these are supported in LuaTeX/LuaLaTeX. For some

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Am 2017-11-20 um 09:30 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm : > Am 2017-11-19 um 16:46 schrieb Marc Hohl : > >> Am 18.11.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Jacques Peron: >>> Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To >>> integrate LilyPond into

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Urs Liska writes: > Am 19.11.2017 um 23:43 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: >> On 2017-11-19 5:28 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: >>> Font selection, language support, UTF-8 input… >> >> All of these are supported in LuaTeX/LuaLaTeX. >> >> For some key differences see this: >>

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Am 2017-11-19 um 16:46 schrieb Marc Hohl : > Am 18.11.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Jacques Peron: >> Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To >> integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex >> . > > Which is a

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Am 19.11.2017 um 23:43 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel: On 2017-11-19 5:28 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: Font selection, language support, UTF-8 input… All of these are supported in LuaTeX/LuaLaTeX. For some key differences see this:

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On 2017-11-19 5:28 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: Font selection, language support, UTF-8 input… All of these are supported in LuaTeX/LuaLaTeX. For some key differences see this: https://www.overleaf.com/blog/500-whats-in-a-name-a-guide-to-the-many-flavours-of-tex#keyfeatures --

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On 19.11.2017 23:19, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.11.2017 um 23:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 19.11.2017 22:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.11.2017 um 22:55 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 18.11.2017 17:58, Jacques Peron wrote: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate

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Am 19.11.2017 um 23:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 19.11.2017 22:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.11.2017 um 22:55 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 18.11.2017 17:58, Jacques Peron wrote: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped

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On 19.11.2017 22:58, Urs Liska wrote: Am 19.11.2017 um 22:55 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 18.11.2017 17:58, Jacques Peron wrote: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex .

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Am 19.11.2017 um 22:55 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 18.11.2017 17:58, Jacques Peron wrote: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex . Pardon the question: If it involves Lua,

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On 18.11.2017 17:58, Jacques Peron wrote: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex . Pardon the question: If it involves Lua, doesn’t that make it incompatible with XeLaTeX?

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Am 19.11.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Jacques Peron:  > As far as I can tell the cleanest (and easiest) way would be to > publish the package on CTAN so it will be included in TeX distros like > TeXLive (like it is the case with lilyglyphs). I'd be really glad to do so, but I don't

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Abbé Jacques Peron writes: > I found the problem : it came from @currenv, that is in fact > @currenvir. Ouch. Sorry, sloppy reading. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

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I found the problem : it came from @currenv, that is in fact @currenvir. After last modifications , I think lyluatex should work as a drop-in replacement for lilypond-book, while keeping backward compatibility for

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Just tried that, and it doesn’t work : \let\lilypond@envcode\lilypond \protected\def\lilypond{\def\reserved@a{lilypond}% \ifx\reserved@a\@currenv \expandafter\lilypond@envcode \else \expandafter \lily \fi} I think it has something to do with \expandafter, but I don’t know TeX enough to be

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And @David Kastrup : thank you very much for telling me how to achieve the same name for environment and command ! 2017-11-19 22:05 GMT+01:00 Abbé Jacques Peron : > I found the problem : it came from @currenv, that is in fact @currenvir. > After last modifications

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> > Neither are called lilypond. It's not particularly great, but there are >> examples for the sharing of command and environment. Basically you >> check whether @currenvir is set to LilyPond. As long as you don't >> _nest_ those constructs... >> >> The environment is defined as `ly`, but

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Am 19.11.2017 um 20:28 schrieb David Kastrup: Jacques Peron writes: The only thing I don't know how to do is to have the same name (lilypond) for thé command and for the environment. So I privileged the environment. Neither are called lilypond. It's not particularly

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Jacques Peron writes: > > As far as I can tell the cleanest (and easiest) way would be to >> publish the package on CTAN so it will be included in TeX distros like >> TeXLive (like it is the case with lilyglyphs). > > I'd be really glad to do so, but I don't know how to...

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> As far as I can tell the cleanest (and easiest) way would be to > publish the package on CTAN so it will be included in TeX distros like > TeXLive (like it is the case with lilyglyphs). I'd be really glad to do so, but I don't know how to... And if I remember what I read about the integration

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On 2017-11-19 12:12 PM, David Kastrup wrote: I fail to see why it uses different syntax for embedding LilyPond code than lilypond-book does, though. Why not make it compatible by just adding the right \usepackage invocation? Actually, the package does define some aliases which should allow

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Urs Liska writes: > Am 19.11.2017 um 17:55 schrieb Malte Meyn: >>> I would love to see an introduction to that toolchain on >>> lilypondblog.org. Jacques, would you write such a post, please? >> >> That would be nice. > > Communication has already started ;-) > >> And

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Am 19.11.2017 um 17:55 schrieb Malte Meyn: I would love to see an introduction to that toolchain on lilypondblog.org. Jacques, would you write such a post, please? That would be nice. Communication has already started ;-) And maybe, if or when this has been tested enough by different

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Am 19.11.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 19.11.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Marc Hohl: Am 18.11.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Jacques Peron: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex

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Am 19.11.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Marc Hohl: Am 18.11.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Jacques Peron: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex . Which is a great tool and IMHO easier to

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Am 18.11.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Jacques Peron: Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex . Which is a great tool and IMHO easier to use than lilypond-book! Linux, LilyPond,

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Am 19.11.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Thomas Scharkowski: Original-Nachricht ... A quick question for others: I've used LilyPond a couple times on Mac, and the compile times were /horrendous/. Are the compile times on Linux faster than on other operating systems? (Unfortunately I

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Original-Nachricht ... A quick question for others: I've used LilyPond a couple times on Mac, and the compile times were /horrendous/. Are the compile times on Linux faster than on other operating systems? (Unfortunately I can't remember what Mac OS I used...) I remember

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Hi Urs, Am 18.11.2017 um 16:04 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 18.11.2017 um 15:59 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello, Am 18.11.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi: However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book to

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Deeply interesting information. http://orgmode.org/#docs http://orgmode.org/org.pdf Nice. But I think for literate programmers only . Regards Am 19.11.2017 04:08, schrieb James Harkins: FWIW, Emacs org-mode is a really nice way to integrate LaTeX and LilyPond for articles. org-mode exports to

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My main platform for LilyPond is Linux. Frescobaldi is a joy to work with, but I also use Vim as editor for LP source files. I simply can type faster in Vim because I use it a lot for other stuff. Sometimes I want to integrate musical fragments in text documents. I have tried to use LaTeX

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> It just can't handle Khmer lyric. This is not a lilypond issue at all, AFAIC. I guess that the used Pandoc and HarfBuzz library versions are not recent enough. Please send me a small lilypond example with Khmer lyrics, together with an image that shows how the text should look like (using

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I completely switched to Linux (Debian) since I started lilypond and only Fresconaldi two years ago. Lilyppnd sometimes can't handle the ttf fonts as title font. (That goes the same as ly2video. It just can't handle Khmer lyric. But that's a different issue) I used Latex as my final work output

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FWIW, Emacs org-mode is a really nice way to integrate LaTeX and LilyPond for articles. org-mode exports to LaTeX. org-babel can automatically run LilyPond source blocks embedded in the org document, generating EPS and dropping it seamlessly into the LaTeX document. If you wrap the source

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Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than graphical tools? I completely switched to Linux more than 20 years ago and use *TeX for more than 25

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Thus said "Brett M. Gilio" on Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:59:27 -0600: > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any > of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather > than graphical tools? I wonder if analysis of the user-agent strings from the web

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I use Lilypond within Frescobaldi on Win10, MacOS on a MacBookPro, and an old MacBook running LinuxMint. Frescobaldi serves all my needs. I started out using Frescobaldi solely on Linux my destop OS of choice for 10+ years. My compositions are all on Dropbox which I sync to the computers on

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On 18.11.2017 20:12, Brett M. Gilio wrote: On 11/18/2017 07:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Andrew Bernard writes: Hi Brett, I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work. What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of platform

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I only use Linux (mostly Fedora). I use LilyPond with Frescobaldi, Denemo, Emacs, LibreOffice and a lot of homegrown tools. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

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> Would it be worth setting up a survey post on lilypondblog.org? > I would be interested in seeing this. Brett M. Gilio B.S. Biological Sciences B.M. Music Composition http://www.brettgilio.com/ "Sometimes the obvious is the enemy of the true." - G. Stolzenberg

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On 11/18/2017 07:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Andrew Bernard writes: > >> Hi Brett, >> >> I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work. >> >> What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of >> platform usage? Or are you really

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I do! Plain TeX and LaTeX. On 18 Nov 2017 7:29 am, "Brett M. Gilio" wrote: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than graphical tools? BMG -- Brett M. Gilio B.S.

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Linux, LilyPond, LuaLaTeX (and Gregorio for gregorian chant) here. To integrate LilyPond into LaTeX, I developped lyluatex . ​ 2017-11-18 17:24 GMT+01:00 David Bellows : > I use Linux, Lilypond, LuaLaTeX, and Csound, editing all of it in

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I use Linux, Lilypond, LuaLaTeX, and Csound, editing all of it in emacs. This does seem like a pretty potent or at least popular combination. On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Sam Bivens wrote: > I'm also a Linux user. For notation I use LilyPond (with Frescobaldi) >

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On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 04:59:27PM -0600, Brett M. Gilio wrote: > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of > you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than > graphical tools? I've been using Linux since 2002 and LilyPond almost as long on

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I'm also a Linux user. For notation I use LilyPond (with Frescobaldi) exclusively, and for any serious writing I use LaTeX. Although I use the lilyglyphs package in LaTeX, I've never gotten around to using lilypond-book; instead I just autocrop my Lily PDFs and insert those as floats. A

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Am 18.11.2017 um 15:59 schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hello, Am 18.11.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi: However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book to be too cumbersome or specific. sometimes I typeset

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Hello, Am 18.11.2017 um 15:44 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi: However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book to be too cumbersome or specific. sometimes I typeset a preface text for a LilyPond document. I use a

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2017, Brett M. Gilio wrote: > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of > you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than > graphical tools? One here. I'm not sure Csound qualifies as typesetting software, but I use it often

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Greetings Brett, I am a Linux user through and through. I use LilyPond with Emacs. As for LaTeX, I find it useful when authoring purely textual documents. However, when a mix of text and music is involved, I use LilyPond's rather robust \markup and \markuplist commands, finding lilypond-book to

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Hi Brett, Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Numbers are not available, for sure. As David pointed out you'll have less Linux users than you might expect. But you'll have substantially more Linux users than when asking

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Il 17/11/2017 23:59, Brett M. Gilio ha scritto: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Hi, I work almost exclusively (when I'm not forced to use other systems...) on GNU/Linux. I moved from Windows to Ubuntu about ten yeras ago (phew!), and I used it until some month

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Am 18. November 2017 14:26:10 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup : >Andrew Bernard writes: > >> Hi Brett, >> >> I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work. >> >> What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of >> platform

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Andrew Bernard writes: > Hi Brett, > > I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work. > > What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of > platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are > available? Your

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On 17/11/17 22:59, Brett M. Gilio wrote: > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of > you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than > graphical tools? > > > BMG I use Lilypond+Frescobaldi on CentOS at home and Lilypond on Wikipedia pages.

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Hi Brett, I use Linux for most of my work, and for all my lilypond work. What are you trying to establish, may I ask? A statistical survey of platform usage? Or are you really asking about what graphical tools are available? Your query seems to have multiple aspects. The Linux platform is

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On 11/17/2017 5:59 PM, Brett M. Gilio wrote: How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than graphical tools? BMG Hi Brett, I use LilyPond on a Linux Mint XFCE machine and I love it. I was a

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Hi Brett, I use Linux as the main operating system here and beside LilyPond I use LaTeX through Pandoc for text documents. But for the LilyPond files I use Frescobaldi, which can display the result beside the source. Cheers, Jan-Peter Am 17.11.2017 um 23:59 schrieb Brett M. Gilio: How

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LaTex, Lyx and Csound are not Linux specific. Concerning Latex, Latex uses/references to lilypond as one of the possible music writing tools How to write music with LaTeX https://martin-thoma.com/how-to-write-music-with-latex/ Indeed I think about using LaTex with Lilypond. the preprocessor

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What do you mean by graphical tools? J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Brett M. Gilio wrote: > > How many Linux users are out there in the Lilypond community? Do any of > you use other type-setting software such as LaTeX or Csound rather than > graphical