Re: [LINK] Student media blocked from budget lock-up

2018-04-12 Thread JanW
At 08:38 AM 13/04/2018, Andy Farkas wrote: >We can also expect that this year, like most years, the Budget will have >a big effect on students." That statement is like the Chinese wish: may you live in interesting times. The person takes it in a positive way, usually, but it is no such thing. I

Re: [LINK] Thought Volvos were supposed to be safe?

2018-03-21 Thread JanW
It would have happened if the human was driving as well. Accidents and stupid human actions happen. Selling auto-drive cars as 100% safe is hype. Jan At 09:22 PM 21/03/2018, David Boxall you wrote: >On 20/03/2018 9:43 PM, I wrote: >>... It will be interesting to know the details of what went

Re: [LINK] Video streaming

2018-02-01 Thread JanW
I used to use SBS on demand on Chrome browser. It won't sign in any longer. Ghostery is listing a HEAP of trackers. I think I'll pass. I tried logging in with my established account and with Google. Both failed. Hence I put it down to the Ghostery blocks. Using my tablet with the SBS On Demand

Re: [LINK] NBN 100mbps plan a "tough sell" and may not be offered in future?

2018-01-14 Thread JanW
At 11:50 AM 15/01/2018, Dr Bob Jansen (in Korea) wrote: >I wonder if Australia is taking the wrong focus? After all, do most people >care about speed or services? I would suspect services. I may be wrong, but I think this is a holdover from the international data charge days across the

Re: [LINK] Ported telephone numbers

2018-01-13 Thread JanW
At 11:14 AM 14/01/2018, Tom Worthington wrote: >If you want to be able to call emergency services during a blackout, when the >NBN is not working, what do you do? If you have a mobile phone, then do you >need an NBN based telephone service at all? Technically, no. But the prices are very

Re: [LINK] NBN 100mbps plan a "tough sell" and may not be offered in future?

2018-01-12 Thread JanW
At 11:04 PM 12/01/2018, Stephen Loosley wrote: >The highest-speed plan on the national broadband network is becoming a tough >sell for telecommunications companies amid concerns the risks and costs are >outweighing the benefits. Asked a friend in the US, small town Indiana, what his Internet

Re: [LINK] Bitcoin and global warming

2017-12-16 Thread JanW
On facebook (yeah, I know, sigh), there's a video out this week from Batdad about his son and Bitcoin. It's hilarious! https://www.facebook.com/BatDadOfficial/videos/1663192900390866/ At 09:39 AM 17/12/2017, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >The Hard Math Behind Bitcoin's Global Warming Problem

Re: [LINK] ASX CHESS and Blockchain

2017-12-06 Thread JanW
At 04:47 PM 7/12/2017, Kim Holburn wrote: >Bitcoin trading is already slow and expensive. It's easier to just hold >bitcoin ATM and making small fast transactions like buying coffee would seem >almost too slow to be useful. I might be wrong about this though, I haven't >tried it. Are there

Re: [LINK] AI?

2017-10-14 Thread JanW
At 02:20 PM 15/10/2017, Stephen Loosley wrote: >https://i.imgur.com/TWkkMTg.png Interesting that this caught Elon's attention while he was in Victoria, eh? Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia jw...@janwhitaker.com Twitter:

Re: [LINK] Blockchain

2017-09-21 Thread JanW
someone should tell Chris Berg. Wait, excuse me. Doctor Chris Berg, RMIT. Steve, are you still here? At 09:39 AM 22/09/2017, Roger Clarke wrote: >At 8:51 +1000 22/9/17, Tom Worthington wrote: >>Blockchain is not the most important innovation this century, let alone in a >>century. > >An

Re: [LINK] Report of the Gov ICT Procurement Taskforce

2017-08-29 Thread JanW
At 12:46 PM 30/08/2017, David Lochrin wrote: >I think Governments need a panel of The Wise, well grounded in engineering and >other disciplines and skilled in big-picture thinking. Of course their advice >would never be completely acceptable, and why do we need that when we have the >IPA?

Re: [LINK] Progress Report on Googong Wings

2017-08-06 Thread JanW
At 01:02 PM 7/08/2017, David Lochrin wrote: >The gadget-ridden world they're trying to inflict on us is a result of a >value-free corporate world where wisdom & responsibility are out of scope. Anyone here listen to Radio Lab? Their last two episodes - Breaking News and Truth Warriors - expose

Re: [LINK] itN: RIP Pt-to-Pt Microwave Links

2017-08-02 Thread JanW
At 01:36 PM 3/08/2017, Roger Clarke you wrote: >[But wouldn't it be nice to know what Telstra (et al.?) replaced it with, on >the stretches 'deep in remote parts of Australia'?!] Any bets on Skymuster or zip? Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria,

Re: [LINK] NBN costs

2017-07-31 Thread JanW
At 04:26 PM 31/07/2017, Andy Farkas wrote: >Mr. Trumble, please explain how a node is upgradable? Oh, you rip it all out >and start again? M, more affordable Some bright spark from some dodgy tech company came in with a nice colour brochure. Can't think of anything else that make

[LINK] New Crypto currency with anonymity

2017-07-14 Thread JanW
I love podcasts. This one from Radiolab that I listened to last night is a story about the efforts gone to by the creator of Z-cash, which is an alternative to Bitcoin, based on the ultimate level of security and privacy possible, without exposing the open register which publicly shows all

Re: [LINK] NYT: The NBN Bungle

2017-05-15 Thread JanW
At 07:00 AM 16/05/2017, Roger Clarke wrote: >[Word gets around.] > >How Australia Bungled Its $36 Billion High-Speed Internet Rollout >ANDREW McMILLEN >NYT >MAY 11, 2017 >https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/world/australia/australia-slow-internet-broadband.html I reckon this is because the NYT

Re: [LINK] RN Breakfast - digital transformation interview

2017-04-05 Thread JanW
At 07:00 AM 6/04/2017, Jan Whitaker you wrote: >Interview coming up after 7am news about slowing the digital transformation >process due to Centrelink system issues. At least I think that's what she >said. I didn't catch who is being interviewed. Actually, it was ABC AM with Sabra Lane. The

Re: [LINK] Internet of Malware comes to Miele dishwashers

2017-03-29 Thread JanW
At 12:37 PM 30/03/2017, David Lochrin you wrote: >That takes me back to the Goon Show's exploding socks... you see, life >imitating art! A former Linker sent me this after I forwarded the Miele story to him: "Honey, the washing machine will only wash red clothes. I think the Chinese hackers

Re: [LINK] NBN technologies [WAS] FTTN(ot working)

2017-03-28 Thread JanW
At 01:49 PM 29/03/2017, David Boxall you wrote: >>... Back in the day of Ka band, which replaced C (the bigger dishes we used >>to grab signal from early satellites), rain was an issue. Lots of noise. I >>didn't know if it continued with Ku or not. >>... > >Out of curiosity, I looked it up:

Re: [LINK] NBN technologies [WAS] FTTN(ot working)

2017-03-28 Thread JanW
At 12:21 PM 29/03/2017, David Boxall wrote: >I've seen a post from someone in the danger zone who'd managed to power their >Sky Muster S-NTD with a genset, but couldn't get signal. How much of Sky >Muster's failings are down to Ka band limitations and which to cost-cutting on >the ground is

Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

2017-03-26 Thread JanW
At 11:30 AM 27/03/2017, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >We'd need to know the result of a speed test (like speedtest.net) at the time >of the problem, ideally from a wired connection. As I said, I did the speed test to the laptop, in the same room, just 2 meters from the Chromecast dongle and got: -

Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

2017-03-26 Thread JanW
Time for an update Observation: weekend impact on HFC -- jerky connection/data thru-put. I was trying to watch Netflix on my Chromecast to TV and encountered buffering to that device. I could play direct to my laptop without buffering, but no matter what device I tried to cast -- laptop or

Re: [LINK] New ABC chairman set to be Justin Milne, NBN board member and ex-Telstra exec

2017-03-23 Thread JanW
At 08:54 AM 24/03/2017, Tom Worthington wrote: >>... New ABC chairman ... NBN board member and ex-Telstra exec ... > >So when will the ABC will be phasing out "broadcasting" in favor of Internet >streaming of "radio" and "TV"? :-( New name: Australian Streaming Corporation Then you'll know.

Re: [LINK] Spells Against Autonomy

2017-03-23 Thread JanW
At 06:22 PM 23/03/2017, Robert Brockway wrote: >>* Someone waving to alert the car/driver of a pending danger; >> >>* A policeman waving at a car/driver to make it stop. > >Good questions. To be up to the task I'd say they should be at least as good >as humans at recognising each of those

Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

2017-03-22 Thread JanW
At 09:26 AM 23/03/2017, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >"Sorry, have to miss out today. My net connection is 'off'. Bloody NBN >cutover not in yet." > >Commiserations, Jan. NBN Update: It took some prodding, but it appears to be working now. When I got up yesterday, everything was dead. Phones

Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam +óunreliable+ó connection

2017-03-17 Thread JanW
At 06:39 PM 17/03/2017, Andy Farkas wrote: >Hehe.. you're usually a bit more vocal. > >>The NBN installer came yesterday and put in their gear. > >A new plate in the wall? Alongside your other HFC connection? I didn't have HFC in the house, so this is new. Yes, a plate, beside a power outlet

Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam +óunreliable+ó connection

2017-03-17 Thread JanW
At 06:03 PM 17/03/2017, Andy Farkas you wrote: >Have you noticed that Jan isn't here? :) LOL - I'm here, just reading. The NBN installer came yesterday and put in their gear. I have an important skype call to the US tomorrow, so I decided to hold off on connecting the new modem in case it

Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN sla m ‘unreliable’ connection

2017-03-13 Thread JanW
At 01:57 PM 14/03/2017, David Boxall wrote: >Interesting question. It's an issue for FttN and FttDP. Don't know about FttP. >If your NBN is HFC, then you'll have a voice-capable line that will satisfy >the USO. Under the circumstances, will any other copper line be maintained? No USO - my

Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam ‘unreliable’ connection

2017-03-13 Thread JanW
At 11:20 AM 14/03/2017, David Boxall wrote: >>“Others here in town are complaining about speed, but I’ve discovered >>lots of complaints are caused by incorrect self-install of equipment such as >>ADSL filters left in line and telephone equipment still connected to other >>wall outlets,”

Re: [LINK] Something Else That the CIA Leaks Disclose

2017-03-08 Thread JanW
At 08:21 AM 9/03/2017, Roger Clarke wrote: >Or will desktop/laptop OS follow mobile OS, with the effect of denying normal >people access to general-purpose computing devices? This seems to be the way things are going - even Microsoft is moving to more tightly controlled "approved"

Re: [LINK] NBN Co masters the fixed-to-wireless flip

2017-03-05 Thread JanW
At 02:30 PM 6/03/2017, David Boxall wrote: >>Restoring this document provides a base level of transparency on a >>whole-of-project basis. We hope you find it useful. I reckon it's just going to piss off a whole new bunch of people. Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8

Re: [LINK] NBN customers complain of unreliable home phone service

2017-02-25 Thread JanW
At 09:45 AM 26/02/2017, David Boxall wrote: >>It is now quickly becoming apparent that it's no longer a simple task due to >>the mix of technologies and the need to have a nbn™ service to enable a VOIP >>service to be active.

Re: [LINK] NBN customers complain of unreliable home phone service

2017-02-24 Thread JanW
At 02:13 PM 25/02/2017, David Boxall wrote: >>“They have taken Australians and given them all this fancy modern >>technology, the politicians are telling everyone how fantastic it is, when in >>reality it’s far worse than what people have now where telephones are >>concerned.” This

Re: [LINK] No dead cats please

2017-02-21 Thread JanW
At 12:59 PM 22/02/2017, Paul Brooks wrote: >Google on the other hand has started charging GST, and the billing entity >switched >from Google Ireland to Google Australia. >Which I probably need to query, as all my Google cloud activity (storage and >compute) >is explicitly directed to European

Re: [LINK] Telstra is lying to customers

2017-02-17 Thread JanW
At 10:31 AM 18/02/2017, David Lochrin wrote: >The smell of a dead rodent is very strong! But I wonder if it was really >Telstra calling? It may have been a marketing organisation who were being >paid on results, or it may have been an outright scam. The latter seems most >likely to me - at

Re: [LINK] Demand 'still not there' for 1Gbps: NBN Co

2017-02-12 Thread JanW
At 11:55 AM 13/02/2017, David Lochrin wrote: >Given that we're dealing with broadband Back o' Bourke and not greater Sydney, >the cost of providing 10 Mbit/sec in remote areas is likely to be orders of >magnitude less than 1 Gbit/sec. While I'm no fan of the current Government's >approach, all

Re: [LINK] Waiting all day to connected to nbn and he doesn't show?

2017-02-08 Thread JanW
At 11:44 PM 8/02/2017, Andy Farkas you wrote: >nbn(tm) have you FAQ'd: > > http://www.nbnco.com.au/support/articles/02348/The-technician-missed-my-appointment-what-do-I-do-now LOL. I clicked the link, the page came up, and no content. Well, I thought it was funny, given the title.

Re: [LINK] NBN longer-term prospects

2017-01-31 Thread JanW
At 08:40 PM 31/01/2017, David Boxall wrote: >What scares the Conservatives sh!tless is the thought that we need to invest >before the cost/benefit equation comes into balance. We're dealing with harm >done by decades of creeping commercialisation, culminating in privatisation. >Australia can't

Re: [LINK] NBN Co won't say how many ADSL users will end up on satellite

2017-01-30 Thread JanW
At 06:15 AM 31/01/2017, Paul Brooks wrote: >While the Revised Outlook on the following page pegs the maximum number at >306,000 in >June 2024. Not sure where the other 293,000 premises went! I only ever thought it was the MPs who couldn't count, like treasurers. I guess it's communicable to

Re: [LINK] The New Payments Platform (NPP)

2016-12-27 Thread JanW
At 01:01 PM 28/12/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >I can't really see any advantage to ordinary users because transactions under >$100 such as the $2.50 coffee are now handled using "pay-wave" and that could >hardly be simpler or faster. Plus, I'd like to know where other than Maccas you can get a

Re: [LINK] The New Payments Platform (NPP)

2016-12-27 Thread JanW
At 10:51 AM 28/12/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Real time payments overhaul coming in 2017 And no mention of what this new "service" ::cough:: is going to cost the consumer. Nor how the links would be made to your email or mobile or etc. Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8

Re: [LINK] Geolocation

2016-12-27 Thread JanW
Thanks David. At 02:54 PM 27/12/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >Having tired of continual prompts to share my location, I disabled it >completely in Firefox by going to and searching for "geo" then >toggling "geo.enabled" to false. If anyone is using Pale Moon browser, you can do the same in it.

Re: [LINK] First Aussie Pirate Bay Block Gets Defeated in Seconds

2016-12-21 Thread JanW
At 08:24 AM 22/12/2016, Christian Heinrich wrote: >It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that when complying with the >order made the court that their network engineers were also aware of >the workaround before this change was implemented too? > >Furthermore, Telstra could argue it would be

Re: [LINK] A plastic bag and a bit of rope

2016-12-08 Thread JanW
At 08:50 AM 9/12/2016, David Boxall wrote: >Thinking it through, 1 b/s is "up to" several TB/s. The term is totally >meaningless, so why is it legal? I'm with you. The ACCC should take them on. I read recently in a search of Whirlpool during my quest that OPTUS has already been found in breach

Re: [LINK] Aussie websites download faster in NZ than in Australia

2016-11-27 Thread JanW
At 02:14 PM 28/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Typically trans-Tasman ping times are around 23 milliseconds. That is the time >it takes data to travel from Sydney to Auckland. TPG is Australia’s second >largest service provider. > > “TPG is a lot worse than all NZ ISPs for downloading

Re: [LINK] NBN Co moved an FTTN cabinet after users asked to connect

2016-11-22 Thread JanW
At 04:11 PM 23/11/2016, David Boxall wrote: >>But rather than agree to the request, NBN Co decided to move the node cabinet >>out of view, 120 metres down the road. Is there ANYONE in that Government OWNED company with any brains I got an email from my ISP telling me their products for

Re: [LINK] Telstra launches Australian homes onto the Internet of S**t

2016-11-20 Thread JanW
At 09:52 AM 21/11/2016, dloch...@key.net.au wrote: >If someone hacks your front door and steals the priceless Ming Vase, would >Telstra pay up immediately without argument? Ignoring legal risk always makes me laugh, sadly. Of course Tel$tra could include it as a 'business expense' or try to

Re: [LINK] Unassigned IPv4 addresses exhausted

2016-11-12 Thread JanW
At 05:37 PM 12/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Surely IPv6 awareness is required throughout networks? And so, how aware are >we? Bets on if the NBN installed equipment is IPv6 ready? Or is that certain that it's all fine and dandy? Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8

Re: [LINK] Cyber Security Strategy

2016-11-10 Thread JanW
At 10:33 PM 10/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >The federal government is set to offer voluntary cyber-security ‘health >checks’ for Australia’s top 100 ASX-listed companies, in partnership with >the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC). [emphasis added above] So,

Re: [LINK] Off Topic: The Election

2016-11-08 Thread JanW
At 04:05 PM 9/11/2016, Andy Farkas wrote: >>Donald Trump cannot be president of the United States. > >Seems the American people disagree. He's not inaugurated yet. I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia jw...@janwhitaker.com Twitter:

Re: [LINK] Freeview app for all five networks

2016-11-07 Thread JanW
At 01:38 AM 8/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Freeview FV can already mirror to Apple TV using AirPlay. Business Insider has >contacted Freeview about any plans to support Google Chromecast. I was looking forward to this app when I heard about it earlier. But, still far too many holes in this

Re: [LINK] MyGov down today

2016-11-04 Thread JanW
At 08:05 PM 4/11/2016, Karl Schaffarczyk wrote: >How would you serve the privacy and sovereignty >issues with using a private and overseas service such as Amazon? I attended an Amazon talk a couple years ago. They assured me they were using Australian servers. I guess you can choose to believe

Re: [LINK] The NBN, as re-imagined

2016-11-01 Thread JanW
At 01:36 PM 2/11/2016, David Boxall wrote: >>I use the internet to run pumps and an automated watering system to provide >>water to livestock. This of course is out of action without internet so I >>have to be there to ensure water is kept up to livestock. This wasn't too bad >>before the

Re: [LINK] Fuel Check website helps drivers find cheap petrol

2016-08-26 Thread JanW
At 10:43 PM 26/08/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >I'd say this site will become very popular across NSW, and, will result in >lower >fuel prices across the State. An excellent State Gov initiative, and one which >I'd certainly hope Victoria etc soon emulates. Well done the NSW government. Ours

Re: [LINK] Fuel Check website helps drivers find cheap petrol

2016-08-26 Thread JanW
At 10:29 PM 26/08/2016, Antony Barry wrote: >Back to petrol, I buy around 30 litres a month. Me too -- without using the bike or walking much. :)) Buy local, plan trips. But it's still nice to see prices below $1/l Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria,

Re: [LINK] Language please ...

2016-08-23 Thread JanW
At 05:28 PM 23/08/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >And if you want to know who can legally get at your health data, without >you knowing, see here: > >Especially the bit about "Section 70 Disclosure for law enforcement >purposes, etc." And that link is?? ;-) Good overview, BRD. Jan I

Re: [LINK] Fwd: The rise and fall of the Gopher protocol | MinnPost

2016-08-19 Thread JanW
At 07:42 PM 19/08/2016, Antony Barry wrote: >They were magic times. It started with archie. Who remember archie now? > >https://www.minnpost.com/business/2016/08/rise-and-fall-gopher-protocol I do! One of my fond memories around that time was giving gopher lessons to our Chancellor. We were

Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

2016-08-10 Thread JanW
At 12:13 PM 11/08/2016, Ben Elliston wrote: >.. which is how it should have been done in the first place. Why >build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it >out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW >Wednesday) and do it with less kit? Yep,

Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

2016-08-10 Thread JanW
At 09:39 AM 11/08/2016, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: >Worth noting the ABS now comes under the Minister for Small Business which is >in the outer ministry. >https://www.pm.gov.au/your-government/ministers Plus the guy has only had responsibility for it for 2 weeks. Abbott then Mal didn't assign

Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

2016-08-10 Thread JanW
At 09:06 AM 11/08/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >The most reasonable explanation is that they didn't expect everyone to >try and log on at about 7:30, after dinner. Someone had already >predicted this and had it published in the age - on August 4

Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

2016-08-10 Thread JanW
At 06:54 AM 11/08/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote: >Bottom line: If there really was a series of DDOS attacks (which has been by >no means proved, and will probably only be proved if third parties verify >traffic stats .. and the ABS produces the logs) then the ABS are incompetent >and should not be

Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

2016-08-09 Thread JanW
At 09:51 PM 9/08/2016, Marghanita da Cruz wrote: >* JavaScript is required to use this online form. Please enable > JavaScript on your device or for assistance call the Census Inquiry > Service on 1300 214 531. [code 950]" At least someone had the sense to program in the failure number in the

Re: [LINK] Telstra, our network and rural service

2016-08-08 Thread JanW
At 09:13 AM 9/08/2016, David Boxall you wrote: >By the way, I've just had another Telstra rep. assure me that ADSL is >available on my line (9km from a RIM). I'm stringing them along, just to find >out how far they'll go. LMAO good luck with that, Telstra REP!! Sales-shill more likely -- hook

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-05 Thread JanW
At 09:00 AM 6/08/2016, Kim Holburn wrote: >I think the key issue is: why do all browsers give away so much information to >websites? Why do we have to rely on extensions to make browsers secure? > >Who are they making the browsers for exactly? It's the new TV - they are selling eyeballs and

Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

2016-08-04 Thread JanW
At 11:19 AM 5/08/2016, Karl Auer wrote: >Carry on with Chrome. Google loves you. Chrome is NOT my browser of choice. I use it quite sparingly. I don't use bloated FF any more either. I avoid IE as much as possible, too. Chrome over that, without logging in. So no, Google can get stuffed. I

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread JanW
At 07:53 AM 3/08/2016, Nicholas English wrote: >The ancestors of all great Australian adventures in infrastructure are rail >and water. 100 years latter we are still paying to fix them both. >There's no need to learn when an investor can get a return. The 'gift' that keeps on giving - like a

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread JanW
At 09:54 PM 2/08/2016, Roger Clarke wrote: >Alright, I'm up for it. > >I'm prepared to make the prediction that, after autonomous cars take over, 90 >percent of road accidents will be caused by machine error. Made me laugh. Alternative: the network made me do it. Jan I write books.

Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

2016-07-27 Thread JanW
At 11:58 AM 28/07/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote: >Personally I think AI’s are a long way from developing this >‘understanding’ - especially at the hard wired instinctive level that >pretty well all fauna and Animalia on this planet do. > >And that could be problematic for any truly sapient AI

Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

2016-07-27 Thread JanW
At 10:25 AM 28/07/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >There's no colour in physics, only EM waves of certain wavelengths or photons >of certain energies, so where would it come from? If you can answer that >you'll be famous. LOL doubt it. Rods and cones (something like five different types I think

Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

2016-07-27 Thread JanW
At 09:19 PM 27/07/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote: >I think computers are likely to develop into sapience before sentience … which >may be problematic - as this whole discussion so far points to. Hmm...I reckon in a rudimentary yet multiple way, computers already are sentient, as in sensors -

Re: [LINK] Robot cars and the fear gap

2016-07-14 Thread JanW
At 01:50 PM 14/07/2016, Brendan wrote: >Presumably, driverless cars are going to disproportionately remove drunks, >suicides and young men from the accident statistics. If there is only a >marginal improvement in _overall_ statistics, then that implies that they're >being balanced by losses

Re: [LINK] Electronic Voting

2016-07-10 Thread JanW
At 01:03 PM 11/07/2016, Marghanita da Cruz you wrote: >Something unusual about this election was that it was in the dead of winter. >But it was a beautiful day in Sydney. Yes, winter was an issue, as well as school holidays. I voted early to avoid lines in the wet Melbourne weather. Missed the

Re: [LINK] Are Robots Still Just "Tools" When They Are Used to Kill?

2016-07-10 Thread JanW
At 12:59 PM 11/07/2016, Paul Bolger wrote: >I'm not sure though that this approach is justifiable. If the operator >of the robot/remote unit is not under any danger from the offender are >they still under the legal protection of 'killing to save themselves'. >I suspect not. That's a very good

Re: [LINK] The internet should be for everyone

2016-07-06 Thread JanW
At 10:17 PM 6/07/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Senior ABC sources have told The New Daily that the ABC’s move into text >publishing was a point of aggravation to News Ltd., in particular with its >Canberra lobbyists telling politicians the broadcaster had gone beyond its >taxpayer subsidised

Re: [LINK] The internet should be for everyone

2016-07-05 Thread JanW
At 04:14 PM 5/07/2016, David Boxall wrote: >>If we keep arguing about the costs over a four year budget cycle we are >>unlikely to see a universally acceptable outcome. We need to be building a >>futureproofed NBN that is seen as a critical long term investment. I find it amazing that the

Re: [LINK] What is Mircosoft trying to do?

2016-07-02 Thread JanW
Thanks, Andy I haven't upgraded and don't intend to. I reckon my machine(s) are optimised for whatever OEM OS version they came with. I only upgrade OS when I buy new hardware. That's a few years away yet, perhaps. What is irritating, though, is providing support in our computer club just

Re: [LINK] Fibre signal losses and wireless

2016-07-01 Thread JanW
At 10:51 AM 2/07/2016, David Lochrin you wrote: >It sounds very confused, as though the writer imagines a single distribution >fibre is split evenly every time it comes to a house, so the signal after 'n' >houses is then (2^-n). But even then, optical transmission is very efficient >and

Re: [LINK] Google, Inc., is the world's biggest censor.

2016-06-23 Thread JanW
At 11:36 PM 23/06/2016, Kim Holburn wrote: >> The company maintains at least nine different blacklists that impact our >> lives, generally without input or authority from any outside advisory group, >> industry association or government agency. I'll probably be howled down for this, but they

Re: [LINK] Four different Aussies on four different NBN technologies

2016-06-19 Thread JanW
At 04:50 PM 19/06/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote: >Pretty much what you’d expect from News Ltd (or any MSM outlet in Oz) > >Anecdotes from News Ltd selected individuals … if that ain’t unimpeachable >evidence, what is? Had the same thought when I read it, Frank. This is a put up job. Jan I

Re: [LINK] Voter fury rising over sluggish internet speeds

2016-06-15 Thread JanW
At 11:35 AM 16/06/2016, David Boxall wrote: >While we're at it, please stop referring to the NBN. That name is just >political spin for a repair job. An effort to make catching-up look like an >exciting initiative. > >We should probably stop talking about broadband as well; it's just the

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-10 Thread JanW
At 01:18 PM 10/06/2016, Karl Auer wrote: >(Unpauses Radiohead, returns to book). How about an AI movie? http://mashable.com/2016/06/10/ai-movie-script/ At least one's life isn't at risk. Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-09 Thread JanW
At 09:32 PM 9/06/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >If Volvo are unconditionally accepting "full liability for accidents involving >its driverless cars" such questions would not arise, but it seems a very brave >move indeed. Maybe they've run the risk/return numbers on this and figured in the law

Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

2016-06-08 Thread JanW
At 11:28 AM 9/06/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >Stephen & Mike raise a really excellent question (below). Only a human can >assume moral or legal responsibility, so who would be responsible for a death >caused by the actions of a vehicle computer? I had the same question when I read about the

Re: [LINK] Free access to Australian standards no longer available in public libraries

2016-06-07 Thread JanW
At 03:58 PM 7/06/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >"Increasingly legislation refers to standards, rather than spelling out >legal requirements. All that says the community needs to have access to >standards." > >The publishing agreement with SAI Global ends in 2018, with an option to >renew for

Re: [LINK] Y'gotta laugh

2016-06-06 Thread JanW
At 09:10 AM 7/06/2016, David Boxall wrote: >Then there's this comment: > >>... he was given two installs on the one day, gets to the first one, mentions >>where he the next one

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread JanW
At 01:37 PM 1/06/2016, Jim Birch wrote: >(Smart and attentive) humans are currently better and more adaptable >drivers. It's a matter of when, not if, they get overtaken for each >different driving requirement. This is pretty much how goes, whether for >chess, tennis line calls, or driving.

Re: [LINK] There's trouble ahead

2016-05-28 Thread JanW
At 11:15 AM 29/05/2016, David Boxall wrote: >>like kids and their educations, how far left behind will they be if they >>can’t access anything? Even socially? Then there is business, It’s >>ridiculous trying to upload anything to Youtube, I can only imagine how >>frustrating it would be for

Re: [LINK] RFI: Telstra DNS outage

2016-05-13 Thread JanW
At 12:15 PM 13/05/2016, Roger Clarke wrote: >>Update A Telstra spokesman acknowledged last night's outage and attributed it >>to a failure with a component that manages traffic ... >...snip... This discussion today was timely. Our computer club met today and asked what happened to the

Re: [LINK] Surveillance system

2016-05-12 Thread JanW
At 11:01 AM 13/05/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Swinburne Uni adds analytics to CCTV > >Looking to expand to facial recognition, heat maps. And come up with a brand new name: Prison. I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia jw...@janwhitaker.com

Re: [LINK] NBN Network on Wheels

2016-04-29 Thread JanW
At 02:22 PM 29/04/2016, Tom Worthington wrote: >I am at a meeting on use of social media for emergencies at University of >Sydney. One interesting item is that NBN Co. is building a "Network on Wheels" >for deployment in a disaster where the fibre infrastructure has been >destroyed. There will

Re: [LINK] Australia Post to lose passport services

2016-04-07 Thread JanW
At 06:15 PM 7/04/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote: >Then you pay and wait. Including the ten minute appointment >the complete bureaucratic renewal process took maybe 20 painless minutes. >With a photo & ID verification I wouldn't know how it could be more efficient. My first thought was if the Post

Re: [LINK] itN: Reckless MPs okay Driverless Cars

2016-04-04 Thread JanW
At 10:03 AM 5/04/2016, Jim Birch wrote: >A week in a spinal ward might bring home the benefits of driverless cars. >It's a no brainer when considered in terms of relative risks, rather than >risk elimination. > >They are also likely to improve traffic flow and ease congestion. >Especially when

Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

2016-04-04 Thread JanW
At 02:20 PM 4/04/2016, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >And Nine estimates most people have MPEG-4 decoding ability already: > >http://www.mediaweek.com.au/nine-is-broadcasting-its-channel-in-hd-but-not-for-everyone/ Just going through the whole channel line-up: 13 TenHD - dead 74 TV4ME USED to work but

Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

2016-04-03 Thread JanW
At 01:53 PM 4/04/2016, Karl Auer wrote: >So I'm not knocking video "compression". But I do think people should >know what they are paying for. Here's a different angle on chosen compression. The new 7Flix channel is using MPEG4. My HD tv doesn't do MPEG4, evidently just MPEG2. The racing

Re: [LINK] The NBN is already out of date, but it's not too late to change course

2016-03-29 Thread JanW
At 03:16 PM 30/03/2016, David Boxall wrote: >Sadly, today's Conservatives seem terrified of the future. Asking them for >anything "with long-term sustainability in mind" is asking them to confront >that which causes them to soil their nappies. It's the same at state level. You should have

[LINK] Fwd: Re: The wonders of NBN

2016-03-28 Thread JanW
Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:26:15 +1100 >To: senator.n...@aph.gov.au >From: JanW <jw...@internode.on.net> >Subject: Re: [LINK] The wonders of NBN >Bcc: David Boxall <lin...@boxall.name> > >Dear Minister Nash > >Here is something you can possibly attend to or push someo

Re: [LINK] Why Learning To Code Won't Save Your Job

2016-03-26 Thread JanW
At 11:22 AM 27/03/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: >This article is adappted from Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus: How >Growth Became the Enemy of Prosperity by Douglas Rushkoff, In the famous words of FUnderwood, when you don't like the game, turn over the table. What if growth wasn't

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-25 Thread JanW
At 09:48 AM 26/03/2016, Frank O'Connor you wrote: >To my mind … its not an argument for anything and a pointless filler on the >part of Fairfax. Perhaps the standard of their editorial staff has reached new >lows and they are simply desperate for content that their steadily shrinking >stable

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-25 Thread JanW
At 08:16 PM 25/03/2016, David Boxall wrote: > I would just like to know why YouTube vids stop every 5 minutes. It's not my network connection/provider because it doesn't

Re: [LINK] "Broadband" service to not-very-remote premises

2016-03-23 Thread JanW
At 09:23 AM 24/03/2016, David Boxall wrote: >The story of another business and family blighted by our degraded >telecommunications infrastructure. I wonder where we would be, but for >privatisation. Would we need an NBN project or would we already have >infrastructure for the 21st century? I

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