Re: [LINK] Student media blocked from budget lock-up

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At 08:38 AM 13/04/2018, Andy Farkas wrote:
>We can also expect that this year, like most years, the Budget will have
>a big effect on students." 

That statement is like the Chinese wish: may you live in interesting times. 
The person takes it in a positive way, usually, but it is no such thing. I 
reckon Malcolm's idea of "big effect" will not be positive either and he's 
wanting to avoid a riot in Parliament.

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Re: [LINK] Thought Volvos were supposed to be safe?

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It would have happened if the human was driving as well. Accidents and stupid 
human actions happen. Selling auto-drive cars as 100% safe is hype.
Jan

At 09:22 PM 21/03/2018, David Boxall you wrote:
>On 20/03/2018 9:43 PM, I wrote:
>>... It will be interesting to know the details of what went wrong.
>Some things happen too fast, even for the robot. Certainly too fast for the 
>human driver.
>>Police in Tempe, Arizona, say early indications are that a woman struck and 
>>killed by a self-driving Uber care had abruptly stepped in front of it, 
>>according to a report in the San Francisco Chronicle.
>...
>>"The driver said it was like a flash, the person walked out in front of them,"
>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uber-self-driving-car-crash-arizona-police-say-pedestrian-stepped-in-front/
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Re: [LINK] Video streaming

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I used to use SBS on demand on Chrome browser. It won't sign in any longer. 
Ghostery is listing a HEAP of trackers. I think I'll pass. I tried logging in 
with my established account and with Google. Both failed. Hence I put it down 
to the Ghostery blocks. Using my tablet with the SBS On Demand app works fine.

IView worked straight away in Chrome.

I tried IView in my mozilla and ran down the rabbit hole of selectively 
allowing continually scripts until I got sick of it and stopped. NoScript 
really does work.

Jan



At 03:42 PM 2/02/2018, Kim Holburn wrote:

>I tried to use SBS On demand from a laptop the other day.  It insisted I 
>create an account and login then never played the video.  I tried various 
>browsers.  Maybe it's my adblockers or maybe it's that I don't run flash any 
>more.  Eventually I gave up.
>
>On the other hand my raspberry pi running osmc kodi runs SBS On demand and 
>iview flawlessly and in reasonable resolution.  It's the main thing I use it 
>for.

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Re: [LINK] NBN 100mbps plan a "tough sell" and may not be offered in future?

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At 11:50 AM 15/01/2018, Dr Bob Jansen (in Korea) wrote:
>I wonder if Australia is taking the wrong focus? After all, do most people 
>care about speed or services? I would suspect services. 

I may be wrong, but I think this is a holdover from the international data 
charge days across the Pacific. So the model just never caught up. 

Does Korea have a net neutrality regulation? That also may be what's different. 
The US may soon be changing too, given the recent actions on net neutrality so 
that service differentiation will be possible.

Quality of service should be a measure, but that's hard, given the variability 
of connections. But it would address the issues around buffering, at least a 
bit. I found my SBS OnDemand buffering yesterday afternoon. I didn't try 
Netflix. It may have buffered, too. Not sure if it was because of network 
congestion or the SBS server. I also had a non-connect alert for an email grab 
from Internode about the same time, so I suspect the network was the issue.

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Re: [LINK] Ported telephone numbers

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At 11:14 AM 14/01/2018, Tom Worthington wrote:

>If you want to be able to call emergency services during a blackout, when the 
>NBN is not working, what do you do? If you have a mobile phone, then do you 
>need an NBN based telephone service at all?

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Re: [LINK] NBN 100mbps plan a "tough sell" and may not be offered in future?

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At 11:04 PM 12/01/2018, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>The highest-speed plan on the national broadband network is becoming a tough 
>sell for telecommunications companies amid concerns the risks and costs are 
>outweighing the benefits.

Asked a friend in the US, small town Indiana, what his Internet was. $50 for 
100Mbps. I think that included all his phone needs as well, and a large amount 
of data, but not uncapped. Don't quote me because I can't find the info now, 
but I know it was half of what we pay.

People know these things. They don't want to be paying for something they don't 
think they'll get. Most people don't need the high speed anyway. If it was 
value for money, maybe.

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Re: [LINK] Bitcoin and global warming

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On facebook (yeah, I know, sigh), there's a video out this week from Batdad 
about his son and Bitcoin. It's hilarious!

https://www.facebook.com/BatDadOfficial/videos/1663192900390866/


At 09:39 AM 17/12/2017, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:

>The Hard Math Behind Bitcoin's Global Warming Problem
>https://www.wired.com/story/bitcoin-global-warming/ 

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Re: [LINK] ASX CHESS and Blockchain

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At 04:47 PM 7/12/2017, Kim Holburn wrote:

>Bitcoin trading is already slow and expensive.  It's easier to just hold 
>bitcoin ATM and making small fast transactions like buying coffee would seem 
>almost too slow to be useful.  I might be wrong about this though, I haven't 
>tried it. 

Are there subdivided units of  Bitcoin, like Bittycoins or MilliBittyCoins?

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Re: [LINK] AI?

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At 02:20 PM 15/10/2017, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>https://i.imgur.com/TWkkMTg.png

Interesting that this caught Elon's attention while he was in Victoria, eh?

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Re: [LINK] Blockchain

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someone should tell Chris Berg. Wait, excuse me. Doctor Chris Berg, RMIT.
Steve, are you still here?

At 09:39 AM 22/09/2017, Roger Clarke wrote:

>At 8:51 +1000 22/9/17, Tom Worthington wrote:
>>Blockchain is not the most important innovation this century, let alone in a 
>>century.
>
>An alternative view is that blockchain is a short-term fad:
>http://www.rogerclarke.com/EC/BCD.html
>
>Steve Wilson published his sceptical pieces 4 months before I wrote mine (but 
>I didn't find his papers until after I'd finished):
>http://theconversation.com/blockchain-really-only-does-one-thing-well-62668
>http://lockstep.com.au/blog/blockchain 
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Re: [LINK] Report of the Gov ICT Procurement Taskforce

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At 12:46 PM 30/08/2017, David Lochrin wrote:

>I think Governments need a panel of The Wise, well grounded in engineering and 
>other disciplines and skilled in big-picture thinking.  Of course their advice 
>would never be completely acceptable, and why do we need that when we have the 
>IPA? 

Whoo-hoo! A technocracy. No, not really. But at least we need people making 
informed decisions instead of being sold a bill of goods so whatever latest 
tech giant doesn't take over everything. Diversity is actually very useful. As 
Josh Frydenburg himself said, don't put your eggs all in one basket.

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Re: [LINK] Progress Report on Googong Wings

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At 01:02 PM 7/08/2017, David Lochrin wrote:

>The gadget-ridden world they're trying to inflict on us is a result of a 
>value-free corporate world where wisdom & responsibility are out of scope.

Anyone here listen to Radio Lab? Their last two episodes - Breaking News and 
Truth Warriors - expose some of this. Breaking News is about video and voice 
manipulation, sort of like Hu Parkinson on ABC, only his is better. The idea is 
to provide believable avatars to represent public figures.

The main, point with regard to Google, though, is that the research person 
developing some of the stuff didn't even understand the question about ethics 
and creating falsifiable communications and how dangerous it could be. She 
literally didn't. It was mind-boggling.

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Re: [LINK] itN: RIP Pt-to-Pt Microwave Links

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At 01:36 PM 3/08/2017, Roger Clarke you wrote:

>[But wouldn't it be nice to know what Telstra (et al.?) replaced it with, on 
>the stretches 'deep in remote parts of Australia'?!] 

Any bets on Skymuster or zip?

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Re: [LINK] NBN costs

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At 04:26 PM 31/07/2017, Andy Farkas wrote:

>Mr. Trumble, please explain how a node is upgradable? Oh, you rip it all out 
>and start again? M, more affordable

Some bright spark from some dodgy tech company came in with a nice colour 
brochure. Can't think of anything else that make sense.

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[LINK] New Crypto currency with anonymity

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I love podcasts. This one from Radiolab that I listened to last night is a 
story about the efforts gone to by the creator of Z-cash, which is an 
alternative to Bitcoin, based on the ultimate level of security and privacy 
possible, without exposing the open register which publicly shows all 
transactions by a bitcoin user. In the story, they talk about how bitcoin user 
identities are being discovered through data-matching. This Z-cash guy is 
creating a completely anonymous currency system -- you know, like actual cash.

The Ceremony by Radiolab
https://player.fm/1lWqTU  #nowplaying

Creating crypto currency with ultimate privacy. Take that, Turnbull

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Re: [LINK] NYT: The NBN Bungle

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At 07:00 AM 16/05/2017, Roger Clarke wrote:

>[Word gets around.]
>
>How Australia Bungled Its $36 Billion High-Speed Internet Rollout
>ANDREW McMILLEN
>NYT
>MAY 11, 2017
>https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/world/australia/australia-slow-internet-broadband.html

I reckon this is because the NYT now has a presence here similar to HuffPost 
and will have an even greater interest and understanding of what Australia is 
about. Their new editor was on The Drum last week.

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Re: [LINK] RN Breakfast - digital transformation interview

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At 07:00 AM 6/04/2017, Jan Whitaker you wrote:

>Interview coming up after 7am news about slowing the digital transformation 
>process due to Centrelink system issues. At least I think that's what she 
>said. I didn't catch who is being interviewed. 

Actually, it was ABC AM with Sabra Lane. The interview was with Ed Husic from 
the opposition.

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Re: [LINK] Internet of Malware comes to Miele dishwashers

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At 12:37 PM 30/03/2017, David Lochrin you wrote:

>That takes me back to the Goon Show's exploding socks... you see, life 
>imitating art! 

A former Linker sent me this after I forwarded the Miele story to him:

"Honey, the washing machine will only wash red clothes. I think the Chinese 
hackers got to it again."

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Re: [LINK] NBN technologies [WAS] FTTN(ot working)

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At 01:49 PM 29/03/2017, David Boxall you wrote:
>>... Back in the day of Ka band, which replaced C (the bigger dishes we used 
>>to grab signal from early satellites), rain was an issue. Lots of noise. I 
>>didn't know if it continued with Ku or not.
>>...
>
>Out of curiosity, I looked it up:
>>The Ka band is more susceptible to rain attenuation than is the Ku band, 
>>which in turn is more susceptible than the C band.
>
>

Duh.
I meant kU band. I don't know what is happening to my head! I think I have this 
right now. We went from C to Ku. This was in the US when we were doing a lot 
more with narrowcasting via satellite for distance ed purposes. Here's the Ku 
article, and you'll see the proliferation of Ku satellites. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band

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Re: [LINK] NBN technologies [WAS] FTTN(ot working)

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At 12:21 PM 29/03/2017, David Boxall wrote:
>I've seen a post from someone in the danger zone who'd managed to power their 
>Sky Muster S-NTD with a genset, but couldn't get signal. How much of Sky 
>Muster's failings are down to Ka band limitations and which to cost-cutting on 
>the ground is anybody's guess. Would better dishes, LNBs, S-NTDs, ground 
>stations and other infrastructure make a difference?
>
>The other common NBN option in the regions is fixed wireless. They started off 
>with the 2.3 GHz band. That doesn't play well with vegetation (or rain, 
>apparently). 

I was going to mention weather impacts. Back in the day of Ka band, which 
replaced C (the bigger dishes we used to grab signal from early satellites), 
rain was an issue. Lots of noise. I didn't know if it continued with Ku or not.

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Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

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At 11:30 AM 27/03/2017, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

>We'd need to know the result of a speed test (like speedtest.net) at the time 
>of the problem, ideally from a wired connection.

As I said, I did the speed test to the laptop, in the same room, just 2 meters 
from the Chromecast dongle and got:
- perfect, non-buffer Netflix
I could watch the pass-thru spikes as the feed was coming. It evidently isn't a 
smooth stream. It spiked in at around the 5mbs rate as it fed the program. I 
found that interesting. I'm only on the SD level Netflix, so I'm not asking for 
much.

- If anyone is on Internode, the MUM program shows what's happening between 
your device and the network. But NOT the network performance to the house. Is 
anyone aware of a full LAN monitoring tool? The Huawei modem interface doesn't 
appear to have it. It does provide ping and traceroute, but that's about all. 
And again. that is going to be to the device, not the full LAN I think

- the file download speed via MUM showed jerky thru-put. That is the one that 
loads via Internode servers to my laptop. It was fine this morning. Again, 
Chromecast isn't in the picture.

- Just now doing a Neflix test via the tablet control/Chromecast. It loaded 
reasonably well, then less than a minute in, it stopped for a reload. I've had 
it going for about an hour and the only lag is when the next episode needs to 
start. (and I'm sure after I've sent this, it could stop behaving :-) )

If anyone does know of a LAN monitor that works on Windows 7, I would be much 
obliged to hear of it.

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Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

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Time for an update

Observation: weekend impact on HFC -- jerky connection/data thru-put. I was 
trying to watch Netflix on my Chromecast to TV and encountered buffering to 
that device. I could play direct to my laptop without buffering, but no matter 
what device I tried to cast -- laptop or tablet -- there wasn't a consistent 
enough data flow to support the Chromecast.

I also had a look at 'file download test' to my ISP, Internode, during the same 
period. It was then I also saw the lower speeds (between 3 and 7Mbs) and jerky 
thru-put. Yet when I tested just now, mid-morning, it was running full bore. I 
haven't turned on the TV to test the Chromecast behaviour. The other day, it 
was fine.

My question: I am at the low speed setting of 12Mbs. If I upped it to the next 
tier, 25Mbs, would that increase my speed difference OR would I still get the 
jerky thru-put and the lower speeds? 

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Re: [LINK] New ABC chairman set to be Justin Milne, NBN board member and ex-Telstra exec

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At 08:54 AM 24/03/2017, Tom Worthington wrote:
>>... New ABC chairman ... NBN board member and  ex-Telstra exec ...
>
>So when will the ABC will be phasing out "broadcasting" in favor of Internet 
>streaming of "radio" and "TV"? :-(

New name:

Australian Streaming Corporation

Then you'll know.

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Re: [LINK] Spells Against Autonomy

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At 06:22 PM 23/03/2017, Robert Brockway wrote:
>>* Someone waving to alert the car/driver of a pending danger;
>>
>>* A policeman waving at a car/driver to make it stop.
>
>Good questions.  To be up to the task I'd say they should be at least as good 
>as humans at recognising each of those things, and more.

Funny this issue of waving came up. I went to a movie night last night where we 
watched They're A Weird Mob. I'm sure many linkers know this 1966 Australian 
film. Waving interpretation was a thing in this story. The Italian fellow Nino 
swam out into a rip at Bondi, saw the lifesavers waving at him from the shore 
to come in, and he waves back. Well, his interpretation was of course someone 
being friendly. They were fuming at him after the series of red and yellow 
capped swimmers made their way out to him, with one of them reaching him and 
grabbing him to drag him back into shore. In actuality, he was a fine swimmer 
and was totally confused by the whole thing.

So not only is the issue about machine/human interfaces, but cross-cultural 
communication as well.

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Re: [LINK] Jan's NBN experience

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At 09:26 AM 23/03/2017, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>"Sorry, have to miss out today. My net connection is 'off'. Bloody NBN
>cutover not in yet."
>
>Commiserations, Jan. 

NBN Update:

It took some prodding, but it appears to be working now. When I got up 
yesterday, everything was dead. Phones were dead. Internet was dead. ADSL 
didn't work and neither did the new NBN connection. All lights were on (the 
modems), but nobody home (at Internode).

1. Registered a support ticket at 9.30am. Have only received an acknowledgement 
it was received. No action.

2. Called Node on Mobile, waited 10 minutes to get the 'we'll call you back' 
message. Never came. Hanged up.

3. 4pm, wonder if the line is dead because of our big rainstorms (no phone, no 
ADSL - seems logical). Borrowed neighbours cordless, called Teltra. Their 
system tells me that they no longer are supplying this phone number. Tick them 
off the list. The number has been ported, which may mean why I also lost my 
ADSL line to Node? No idea. Called Internode again since this is obviously a 
problem on their end, this time got the 'we'll call you back' offer and took 
it, saying to call my mobile. This was around 4.30pm.

4. 9.30pm, I'm at a function, get call back from Internode (Five hours later 
instead of the Four hours later from similar experience Sunday, when the 
callback came after 10pm). Wait on hold for 10 minutes (sitting in my car) 
until the call is put through to an actual person, thank goodness it wasn't my 
minutes paying for it. After 20 minutes speaking with support person, he 
figures out that hey, my system is trying to contact their system, but it's not 
authenticating. Well, gee, who would have thought? So he says, let me call you 
back "after I get back from break"!!! That would have been after 11pm my time. 
I said no, that's not good enough. He says, oh, wait, I see what it might be. 
(Duh) It should be going in 90 minutes. We said our obligatory thank yous, call 
us back if it doesn't work, yadda yadda yadda.

5. Come home, turn the modem off and go to bed. Got up this morning, turned 
modem on, and lo and behold, all the lights come on. Hallelujah. But wait, 
gotta test it. All good on the various computers, except the phone is still 
giving me a busy signal. I was going through all the modem access stuff, 
decided to try the phone again before ringing and waiting once again for a 5 
hour callback (probably would have been 6 this time, that was the time trend), 
and lo and behold, I have dial tone. I haven't tested it yet, and have been 
deciding who will be my 'virgin' phone call. 

6. All my data monitors seem to be working ok. Interesting how it swapped over 
on my usual census day for my prior plan. 

7. Now I just hope it continues to work. Haven't put it under any traffic load, 
like Netflix or other stuff. I never had too much trouble with data speed or 
quality before on my adsl line, so probably won't see much difference UNLESS 
there is data sharing contention in the afternoons/evenings. That will be a 
true test.

Thanks to all linkers who bore with me on this trip. I know at least one person 
reading here has been following because that person will be going through a 
similar experience at some stage. Maybe it will help some others too.

Cheers,
Jan


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Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam +óunreliable+ó connection

[JanW]

At 06:39 PM 17/03/2017, Andy Farkas wrote:

>Hehe.. you're usually a bit more vocal.
>
>>The NBN installer came yesterday and put in their gear.
>
>A new plate in the wall?  Alongside your other HFC connection?

I didn't have HFC in the house, so this is new. Yes, a plate, beside a power 
outlet and somewhat close to the current twisted pair in the office.


>>Right now I'm still on the ADSL I've always had. No indication of 
>>interferences.
>
>ADSL uses Telstra's ageing copper. HFC is a completely separate network.
>Both should never have been used in a new National Broadband Network (NBN).
>Now we have Malcolm's Terrible Mess (MTM).
>
>You are lucky you can co-exist with ADSL. It's the unfortunate users who have
>been shafted with FTTN that are having issues; they get cut off from ADSL
>immediately, and if the FTTN doesn't work... weeks of no internet or phone.

Yes, I'm pleased about this aspect. I can try the new one and see if/how it 
works. ADSL backup at least for a few days. Internode says they have about a 
5-6 day window before dropping the ADSL connection. 

I signed up for only 12Mbps service. It's faster than what I have now. So I 
should see some performance improvement. The guys at Node said they aren't 
getting many complaints, and those that are have sprung for the fastest service 
and upset by a 10-15% margin lower.

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Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam +óunreliable+ó connection

[JanW]

At 06:03 PM 17/03/2017, Andy Farkas you wrote:

>Have you noticed that Jan isn't here? :) 

LOL - I'm here, just reading.

The NBN installer came yesterday and put in their gear. I have an important 
skype call to the US tomorrow, so I decided to hold off on connecting the new 
modem in case it goes bad. Once that's finished, I'll probably have a go. Right 
now I'm still on the ADSL I've always had. No indication of interferences.

Jan


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Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN sla m ‘unreliable’ connection

[JanW]

At 01:57 PM 14/03/2017, David Boxall wrote:

>Interesting question. It's an issue for FttN and FttDP. Don't know about FttP. 
>If your NBN is HFC, then you'll have a voice-capable line that will satisfy 
>the USO. Under the circumstances, will any other copper line be maintained?

No USO - my selected ISP required that their customers opt out of it or they 
won't sell it because they can't guarantee phone continuance if the power goes 
out. Voice capable is via VOIP. But I've been told to just plug into the voice 
port. My number is ported to them per when I ordered the service.


>Just re-read that. Geez, alphabet soup! 

Yep. ILBCNU :-)

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Re: [LINK] Australian households, businesses on NBN slam ‘unreliable’ connection

[JanW]

At 11:20 AM 14/03/2017, David Boxall wrote:

>>“Others here in town are complaining about speed, but I’ve discovered 
>>lots of complaints are caused by incorrect self-install of equipment such as 
>>ADSL filters left in line and telephone equipment still connected to other 
>>wall outlets,” Mr Yeomans said.

As someone about to get NBN on Thursday, cross fingers and toes, on HFC, this 
info is useful. I wouldn't have thought any ADSL and plugged phones to be an 
issue since the NBN should be on a completely different set of wires!

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Re: [LINK] Something Else That the CIA Leaks Disclose

[JanW]

At 08:21 AM 9/03/2017, Roger Clarke wrote:

>Or will desktop/laptop OS follow mobile OS, with the effect of denying normal 
>people access to general-purpose computing devices? 

This seems to be the way things are going - even Microsoft is moving to more 
tightly controlled "approved" applications, slowly but surely.

BTW, Roger, does this mean you now have a mobile? ;-)

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Re: [LINK] NBN Co masters the fixed-to-wireless flip

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At 02:30 PM 6/03/2017, David Boxall wrote:

>>Restoring this document provides a base level of transparency on a 
>>whole-of-project basis. We hope you find it useful.

I reckon it's just going to piss off a whole new bunch of people.

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Re: [LINK] NBN customers complain of unreliable home phone service

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At 09:45 AM 26/02/2017, David Boxall wrote:
>>It is now quickly becoming apparent that it's no longer a simple task due to 
>>the mix of technologies and the need to have a nbn™ service to enable a VOIP 
>>service to be active.
> 

That appears to be a discussion around one provider, Skymesh. The other 
comments in the thread weren't at all my experience with Internode. Everything 
has been communicated, dates set, emails keeping me up to date on progress, and 
even got my new modem within a week. There's something to be said about a 
company that does what it says it will. Of course nothing is installed yet, so 
the jury is still out in that regard, but I hope Node's reputation for customer 
service continues in this NBN world.

I did have to pay to port my phone number over, around $30. I don't know if 
that is standard or not. What I'm not sure of is how the Telstra account itself 
should be handled. When do I cancel it? Or do I need to if the number is no 
longer with them? Anyone know? When I changed power companies, I got a final 
bill notice. Does the same happen in this space?

I can see that people who are renting and constantly moving could face 
problems. But changing utilities isn't a new idea. At least we now have fluid 
retail in most utility areas.

Jan


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Re: [LINK] NBN customers complain of unreliable home phone service

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At 02:13 PM 25/02/2017, David Boxall wrote:

>>“They have taken Australians and given them all this fancy modern 
>>technology, the politicians are telling everyone how fantastic it is, when in 
>>reality it’s far worse than what people have now where telephones are 
>>concerned.”

This started with mobiles as well. The place I notice it most is on radio. 
Remote reporting via mobile phone often is so sub-par that the message is 
completely lost. Or the call-in shows where the person speaking is so unclear 
or "breaking up", that it wasn't worth the cost to them, or the audience, of 
the wait on hold to get to be on the program.

Here's another doozy.

I signed up for a new NBN-distribution internet/voice service. During the 
process, I had to verbally agree NOT to enforce my CSG rights. Yep, if I wanted 
to buy any service from this company ::cough:: Internode ::cough:: I was 
required to give up rights for this supposed guarantee for voice 
communications. I did it of course because there really are no longer rights 
for voice service because of the information in this article. So companies are 
doing belts and braces to be sure you understand and AGREE to give up those 
"rights" that are no longer rights. I wonder what the ACCC thinks about this? 
Hey, Checkout, this is one for you!

Talk about Orwellian.

Jan



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Re: [LINK] No dead cats please

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At 12:59 PM 22/02/2017, Paul Brooks wrote:
>Google on the other hand has started charging GST, and the billing entity 
>switched
>from Google Ireland to Google Australia.
>Which I probably need to query, as all my Google cloud activity (storage and 
>compute)
>is explicitly directed to European storage locations, and has no connection to
>Australia other than an address for which to send the invoice.

It will be interesting to see what Amazon does. I have a US and an Australian 
account (because I can :) ). Yet they know I'm in Australia, even for my US 
account, and bill me in AUD. Haven't purchased anything in awhile so not sure 
what they'll do. 

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Re: [LINK] Telstra is lying to customers

[JanW]

At 10:31 AM 18/02/2017, David Lochrin wrote:

>The smell of a dead rodent is very strong!  But I wonder if it was really 
>Telstra calling?  It may have been a marketing organisation who were being 
>paid on results, or it may have been an outright scam.  The latter seems most 
>likely to me - at some point they'd ask for a deposit and the victim would 
>never see them again. 

I was asked by someone else if this was a scam. I truly don't think it was, or 
else it was awfully slick! When I pushed back that I wouldn't give him my 
details over the phone to 'order' whatever it was he was selling, he offered to 
give me the amount of my last monthly bill to confirm he was who he said he 
was. He also rattled off his name and employee number so I could check. I wish 
now I had let him give me the amount, because that would have shown he was 
'legit' working with Telstra data.

IF Telstra is NOT doing this themselves, then this should be investigated as a 
scam. I have heard that there are persistent calls going around right now 
purporting to be from Telstra technical department and that they are going to 
fix your computer. That's entirely different. I tell those guys to F-off and 
slam the phone down. One lady told me she got FIVE phone calls from that scam 
in one day this week. 

This guy was Australian. He was explaining what HFC was. He assumed I had 
'cable' installed already, which was wrong, but I don't know that Telstra would 
have Foxtel subscriber info.

Anyway, Telstra, if you're listening, your tactics may be working, but it's 
TOTALLY unethical if not outright ILLEGAL to mislead customers. To tell them 
their phone service will be shut off within a month because hey, they can't do 
it all at once now can they? Yeah, that was his explanation as to why the 18 
month window was 'wrong' from the NBN.

Oh well. I got my installation appointment date this morning and will soon be 
rid of the big T forever. They just lost 18 months of monthly supply service 
income from me and hopefully a few others who figure out their hardsell 
approach for what it is.

Jan




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Re: [LINK] Demand 'still not there' for 1Gbps: NBN Co

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At 11:55 AM 13/02/2017, David Lochrin wrote:
>Given that we're dealing with broadband Back o' Bourke and not greater Sydney, 
>the cost of providing 10 Mbit/sec in remote areas is likely to be orders of 
>magnitude less than 1 Gbit/sec.  While I'm no fan of the current Government's 
>approach, all governments have to make package decisions - what is worth doing 
>within the country's economic constraints.
>
>So I suggest arguments about baandwidth in remote areas need to be properly 
>thought through in terms of utility and cost/benefit if they're to get a 
>hearing where it counts.

I don't disagree with any of that. We are an odd duck country, given the 
expanses of nothingness/sparseness of population. The Australian way, although 
probably always fought against by the 'haves' in the cities, was to try its 
best to subsidise through sharing to make sure those who chose to live in those 
sparse areas and provide FOOD to those living in the cities were shown they are 
valued as equal citizens. However now the equity issues are moving into 
extremes that challenge that provision of equity. One could say the same thing 
for health and education provision. There just isn't equity in either of those 
things for bush families in the immediacy we get in cities. So we have a lot of 
volunteer stuff happening, like Angel Flight (if you don't know about this, 
check it out - these people truly are human angels).

But I thought the overall 1Gb discussion wasn't about bush provision. So when 
that is taken out of the equation, the decision points change - drastically. 
And like so many other technologies, we can't discount that in the future even 
bushies will be able to get similar service through some technological 
development. So why not put it in place in the 'easy' places now so that the 
applications and spur to do the R happens?

We'll always hit up against physics and physical spaces. But it doesn't mean 
where those physical limits don't exist that the models can't be built to 
extend services to those in harder to serve areas through a minimum level of 
USO, even if that's not 1Gb (now).

Oh, one more thing. I think you're right, David Lochrin - the focus on the 
technology muddies things - a lot. But when you see the stupid stupid stupid 
promises from NBN to provide space engineering programs and NOT differentiating 
who will be able to access such programs, it gets a bit harder to trust them on 
anything much about content delivery. They gotta stop that.

I'm liking this debate, btw.

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Re: [LINK] Waiting all day to connected to nbn and he doesn't show?

[JanW]

At 11:44 PM 8/02/2017, Andy Farkas you wrote:
>nbn(tm) have you FAQ'd:
>
> http://www.nbnco.com.au/support/articles/02348/The-technician-missed-my-appointment-what-do-I-do-now

LOL. I clicked the link, the page came  up, and no content. Well, I thought it 
was funny, given the title.

Actually, it's because I turn off (block) js delivered content, which I find 
includes cloud services. Then I tried allowing each individual process and none 
of them on their own provided the content.

So then I allowed all of the blocked ones and it *still* didn't load anything. 
My guess now: cookies.

But no. I never got anything. 

Maybe it really is just a blank page after all. Turns out it's not just their 
installers not showing up.

The end.

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Re: [LINK] NBN longer-term prospects

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At 08:40 PM 31/01/2017, David Boxall wrote:

>What scares the Conservatives sh!tless is the thought that we need to invest 
>before the cost/benefit equation comes into balance. We're dealing with harm 
>done by decades of creeping commercialisation, culminating in privatisation. 
>Australia can't afford to wait decades for the repair job. We can't afford to 
>wait for the wimps.

Apologies to any of the Conservative/Libparty persuasion, but I never 
understood the paradox. Anyone worth their salt in business understands you 
make money by using other people's money. That means capital investment, bonds 
or shares. Spread the risk. Keep payback rates low. They're about as low as 
they'll get right now. 

The LNP never miss the chance to tell the public about their business prowess. 
And yet, they can't seem to make the conceptual transition as to how you run a 
country or invest well. Seems the only concept they carry with them into 
government is reducing taxes for their buds in the business world they say they 
came from. Or maybe so when they go back, all the rules favour their pockets.

That's not exactly the sort of business acumen I like. Just sayin.

Jan



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Re: [LINK] NBN Co won't say how many ADSL users will end up on satellite

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At 06:15 AM 31/01/2017, Paul Brooks wrote:

>While the Revised Outlook on the following page pegs the maximum number at 
>306,000 in
>June 2024. Not sure where the other 293,000 premises went! 

I only ever thought it was the MPs who couldn't count, like treasurers. I guess 
it's communicable to public servants now. Either that or the innumerate MPs are 
insisting on edits in the PS reports.

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Re: [LINK] The New Payments Platform (NPP)

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At 01:01 PM 28/12/2016, David Lochrin wrote:

>I can't really see any advantage to ordinary users because transactions under 
>$100 such as the $2.50 coffee are now handled using "pay-wave" and that could 
>hardly be simpler or faster. 

Plus, I'd like to know where other than Maccas you can get a cuppa for $2.50!

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Re: [LINK] The New Payments Platform (NPP)

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At 10:51 AM 28/12/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>Real time payments overhaul coming in 2017

And no mention of what this new "service" ::cough:: is going to cost the 
consumer.
Nor how the links would be made to your email or mobile or etc.

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Re: [LINK] Geolocation

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Thanks David.

At 02:54 PM 27/12/2016, David Lochrin wrote:

>Having tired of continual prompts to share my location, I disabled it 
>completely in Firefox by going to  and searching for "geo" then 
>toggling "geo.enabled" to false.

If anyone is using Pale Moon browser, you can do the same in it. It's a Mozilla 
'clone'.

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Re: [LINK] First Aussie Pirate Bay Block Gets Defeated in Seconds

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At 08:24 AM 22/12/2016, Christian Heinrich wrote:
>It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that when complying with the
>order made the court that their network engineers were also aware of
>the workaround before this change was implemented too?
>
>Furthermore, Telstra could argue it would be oppressive for the rights
>holder to demand the blocking of outbound DNS traffic on the basis of
>critical infrastructure, etc 

Not to mention that Telstra is selling bandwidth and data traffic. Why would 
they want to reduce their own revenue stream?

duh

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Re: [LINK] A plastic bag and a bit of rope

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At 08:50 AM 9/12/2016, David Boxall wrote:
>Thinking it through, 1 b/s is "up to" several TB/s. The term is totally 
>meaningless, so why is it legal?

I'm with you. The ACCC should take them on. I read recently in a search of 
Whirlpool during my quest that OPTUS has already been found in breach of 
something re the NBN by the ACCC around advertising, but I didn't bother to go 
read the details.

I'm surprised this backwards logic is still allowed. It's like the guy on the 
730 story said -- $15 for up to 1 kg of meat -- that wouldn't be allowed. It 
could mean anything from 1gm to 1kg. It's ludicrous.


>Rationally, we should be sold a minimum, below which there's no charge, and a 
>service guarantee, below which there's compensation.

Minimum service level agreements are (used to be?) common for commercial 
provisions. It makes much more sense. 

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Re: [LINK] Aussie websites download faster in NZ than in Australia

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At 02:14 PM 28/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>Typically trans-Tasman ping times are around 23 milliseconds. That is the time 
>it takes data to travel from Sydney to Auckland. TPG is Australia’s second 
>largest service provider.
>
> “TPG is a lot worse than all NZ ISPs for downloading New Zealand 
> websites. We may expect that
>  due to downloading across the Tasman, but TPG is worse at downloading 
> Australian and USA
>  websites than any NZ ISPs we measure.”

Is this attributable to poorly provisioned domestic backhaul? TPG oversells. 
I'm just thinking that's the reason - more contention.

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Re: [LINK] NBN Co moved an FTTN cabinet after users asked to connect

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At 04:11 PM 23/11/2016, David Boxall wrote:

>>But rather than agree to the request, NBN Co decided to move the node cabinet 
>>out of view, 120 metres down the road.

Is there ANYONE in that Government OWNED company with any brains

I got an email from my ISP telling me their products for NBN because 
installation was imminent. After a few emails back and forth, we discovered 
that the info that NBN gave them does NOT match the public status search on the 
NBN website, or else it was a coincidence that my check just a couple weeks ago 
that my areas wasn't even on the NBN list yet had updated. Anyway, the ISP sent 
me the link for the HFC that they're going to be using in my area, which we 
have NOT been told about like other people, and I searched that for  my 
address. It does say that construction will start soon.

I shudder to think of what's going to happen next.

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Re: [LINK] Telstra launches Australian homes onto the Internet of S**t

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At 09:52 AM 21/11/2016, dloch...@key.net.au wrote:

>If someone hacks your front door and steals the priceless Ming Vase, would 
>Telstra pay up immediately without argument?

Ignoring legal risk always makes me laugh, sadly. Of course Tel$tra could 
include it as a 'business expense' or try to attibute the liability to the 
labour hire companies who hire contractors to install them.  (sarcasm)

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Re: [LINK] Unassigned IPv4 addresses exhausted

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At 05:37 PM 12/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>Surely IPv6 awareness is required throughout networks? And so, how aware are 
>we? 

Bets on if the NBN installed equipment is IPv6 ready? Or is that certain that 
it's all fine and dandy?

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Re: [LINK] Cyber Security Strategy

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At 10:33 PM 10/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>The federal government is set to offer voluntary cyber-security ‘health 
>checks’ for Australia’s top 100 ASX-listed companies, in partnership with 
>the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC). 

[emphasis added above]

So, the richest companies in the country are being offered something from the 
government that should be part of their standard risk management procedures in 
their IT area? The mind boggles.

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Re: [LINK] Off Topic: The Election

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At 04:05 PM 9/11/2016, Andy Farkas wrote:
>>Donald Trump cannot be president of the United States.
>
>Seems the American people disagree. 

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Re: [LINK] Freeview app for all five networks

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At 01:38 AM 8/11/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>Freeview FV can already mirror to Apple TV using AirPlay. Business Insider has 
>contacted Freeview about any plans to support Google Chromecast.

I was looking forward to this app when I heard about it earlier. But, still far 
too many holes in this thing for me. It requires individual apps per for each 
broadcaster. I can't fit any more apps on my tablet, although I have kept SBS 
and Iview. I tossed the others because they do NOT have all the programs 
available, which was a disappointment. I use Chromecast as my connection to TV, 
so that's out. Using by commuters and paying for the data streams on 3 or 4G is 
insane. Not keen on them tracking my location either.

>work on both iPhones and iPads, but for Android users it is only optimised for 
>mobile devices

I don't understand that - are they saying iPhones/Pads are other than mobile? 
Or that Android devices aren't mobile? It makes no sense.

Question: I don't see anything about the compression/quality levels, which 
greatly impacts demand on networks and data usage for consumers.

These guys are scrambling. I reckon they should have waited until they could 
actually have it work like a TV - you know, one channel selector and that's it.

Beyond this app, I did see that 7 is now streaming Live. Not sure about the 
others. I just noticed an advert for a program with that designation yesterday.

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Re: [LINK] MyGov down today

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At 08:05 PM 4/11/2016, Karl Schaffarczyk wrote:
>How would you serve the privacy and sovereignty
>issues with using a private and overseas service such as Amazon?

I attended an Amazon talk a couple years ago. They assured me they were using 
Australian servers. I guess you can choose to believe them or not.

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Re: [LINK] The NBN, as re-imagined

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At 01:36 PM 2/11/2016, David Boxall wrote:
>>I use the internet to run pumps and an automated watering system to provide 
>>water to livestock. This of course is out of action without internet so I 
>>have to be there to ensure water is kept up to livestock. This wasn't too bad 
>>before the weather started to warm up, but now its getting dangerous. The 
>>thing is, while I have no internet I have to be at the property a lot, there 
>>is no house, its pretty tough to be honest and I don't understand why my 
>>install couldn't be a priority?
>
>>I'm about to head back there now to ensure the livestock have water so I 
>>won't have internet until I get out again in a few days. Hoping like hell 
>>somebody can help me. When I tried to explain to Hills the difficulty of the 
>>life I was living with having to be there with no house because I had no 
>>internet he told me that I had chosen to live in such an isolated place, 
>>which is true, but at least I wasn't choosing to be so pathetically 
>>incompetent at my job, which I strongly suggested to him, was much worse.

I would suggest the fellow send a bill for dead stock to the CEO of the NBN, 
along with a copy to Mitch Fifield and Malcolm Turnbull, Bill Shorten, oh, and 
Media Watch, the ACCC, ACCAN, the TIO, 7 Sunday, Current Affair, Buzzfeed and 
maybe even a newspaper or two. Even if any stock don't really die, I'd LOVE to 
see the faces on the politicians when the media front them. It would be a 
cracker!

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Re: [LINK] Fuel Check website helps drivers find cheap petrol

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At 10:43 PM 26/08/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>I'd say this site will become very popular across NSW, and, will result in 
>lower
>fuel prices across the State. An excellent State Gov initiative, and one which
>I'd certainly hope Victoria etc soon emulates. Well done the NSW government. 

Ours come and go. 

This outfit used to have VIC, but may not now. Appears they have moved to an 
app: https://motormouth.com.au/

This works from RACV (I put in my postcode)
http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/racv/internet/primary/my+car/fuel/petrol+prices/search+for+petrol+prices+around+melbourne?fuelType=2=3806=fuel%20finder%20new

Here's the Meerkat people:
https://secure.comparethemarket.com.au/ctm/fuel_quote.jsp?map=-38.0264207,145.3475330996,13=2

I guess it's not so hard any more. :-)

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Re: [LINK] Fuel Check website helps drivers find cheap petrol

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At 10:29 PM 26/08/2016, Antony Barry wrote:

>Back to petrol, I buy around 30 litres a month. 

Me too -- without using the bike or walking much. :))
Buy local, plan trips.

But it's still nice to see prices below $1/l

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Re: [LINK] Language please ...

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At 05:28 PM 23/08/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>And if you want to know who can legally get at your health data, without
>you knowing, see here:
>
>Especially the bit about "Section 70 Disclosure for law enforcement
>purposes, etc." 

And that link is?? ;-)

Good overview, BRD.

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Re: [LINK] Fwd: The rise and fall of the Gopher protocol | MinnPost

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At 07:42 PM 19/08/2016, Antony Barry wrote:

>They were magic times. It started with archie. Who remember archie now?
>
>https://www.minnpost.com/business/2016/08/rise-and-fall-gopher-protocol 

I do! One of my fond memories around that time was giving gopher lessons to our 
Chancellor. We were both in awe of the information that was being made 
available. Little did either of us know! Or anyone, for that matter.

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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

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At 12:13 PM 11/08/2016, Ben Elliston wrote:

>.. which is how it should have been done in the first place.  Why
>build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it
>out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW
>Wednesday) and do it with less kit? 

Yep, that would have been one of the load balancing options.

But that would take a paradigm shift away from a "snapshot" to a surveillance 
collection, which is what it has become. Otherwise the snapshot would get away 
with margin of error, sample size, and NOT linking to a specific name.

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Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

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At 09:39 AM 11/08/2016, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:

>Worth noting the ABS now comes under the Minister for Small Business which is 
>in the outer ministry.
>https://www.pm.gov.au/your-government/ministers

Plus the guy has only had responsibility for it for 2 weeks. Abbott then Mal 
didn't assign ABS to anyone (I think I have that right) or didn't hire the CEO 
for a very long time. And I'm talking years, not months. 

Poison chalice?

Of course giving it to "Small Business" doesn't mean much. Hardly any minister 
has ANY background in ANY of their portfolios. Why should this be any different?

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Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

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At 09:06 AM 11/08/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>The most reasonable explanation is that they didn't expect everyone to
>try and log on at about 7:30, after dinner. Someone had already
>predicted this and had it published in the age - on August 4
>http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-age-letters/t-20160802-gqjqj7.html

Obviously whoever did (any???) models other than on the back of an envelope 
forgot to consider load balancing options. I'm sure in the next 5 minutes we 
could come up with at least 10. This is NOT like a single highway that you take 
years to build. It's not like a lack of process control, where each individual 
decides to drive a car and where they go to work. They had control over every 
single variable involved in the project. 

There is a bit of irony here that the data they want is in order to do better 
planning. If this project is any example of their models for general social 
planning research, is it any wonder we don't have the right number of schools, 
roads, hospitals, and whatever other social system we rely on?

Bottom line: the ABS leadership has lost the plot. Jury is out on Malcolm, who 
is just trying to keep his job now.

See this for a bit of levity:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbrSUtk8M8=em

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Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

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At 06:54 AM 11/08/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote:
>Bottom line: If there really was a series of DDOS attacks (which has been by 
>no means proved, and will probably only be proved if third parties verify 
>traffic stats .. and the ABS produces the logs) then the ABS are incompetent 
>and should not be trusted to collect and store our data. If there wasn’t an 
>attack, then the ABS are liars …¦ as well as being incompetent.

Well Mal is already blaming the ABS totally (this morning on radio) and saying 
the site will be back up today.

I look at Frank's choices as similar to mine re what I'm willing to do with 
this census:
they can have my name and no data other than gender, DOB, address -- which 
they/the govt have already -- OR they can have the demographic data for the 
purposes of all their forward planning. They do NOT need both to do the work 
required, and certainly don't need them connected.

This technical fiasco is actually a diversion from the real problem with this 
change. I'd be quite happy to do either of those things above online (if they 
were capable of running it), and even now vote remotely in the state of 
Arizona, banking, all those things (less so interacting w/ gov -- I don't have 
a Mygov account that I can recall). BUT the idea of handing over the sorts of 
things being asked in this census in an identifiable fashion with names linked 
via a code is a bridge too far. Not gonna do it.

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Re: [LINK] RFI: Census Site Implosion

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At 09:51 PM 9/08/2016, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
>* JavaScript is required to use this online form. Please enable
>   JavaScript on your device or for assistance call the Census Inquiry
>   Service on 1300 214 531. [code 950]"

At least someone had the sense to program in the failure number in the error 
message. Of course, can anyone get through on that number either?

>I expect like the election Government Agencies are feeling budget cuts. 


More from Huffington Post - w/ some more tweets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/08/09/the-census-website-has-crashed-and-people-are-not-happy/?ncid=edlinkauhpmg0004

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Re: [LINK] Telstra, our network and rural service

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At 09:13 AM 9/08/2016, David Boxall you wrote:

>By the way, I've just had another Telstra rep. assure me that ADSL is 
>available on my line (9km from a RIM). I'm stringing them along, just to find 
>out how far they'll go.

LMAO

good luck with that, Telstra REP!! Sales-shill more likely -- hook 'em, horns. 
Make that sale. I'm on a RIM about 1.5km away and the best service I can get is 
8Mbps - ask them the speed you can get. That should be good for a chuckle. 

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Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

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At 09:00 AM 6/08/2016, Kim Holburn wrote:
>I think the key issue is: why do all browsers give away so much information to 
>websites?  Why do we have to rely on extensions to make browsers secure?  
>
>Who are they making the browsers for exactly?  

It's the new TV - they are selling eyeballs and clicks. The word is 
'monetised'. 

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Re: [LINK] Why do people permit third-party cookies?

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At 11:19 AM 5/08/2016, Karl Auer wrote:

>Carry on with Chrome. Google loves you. 

Chrome is NOT my browser of choice. I use it quite sparingly. 

I don't use bloated FF any more either. 

I avoid IE as much as possible, too. Chrome over that, without logging in. So 
no, Google can get stuffed. I avoid their search engine as well.

I use Pale Moon recommended by Irene Graham.

I asked for software/safer participation suggestions. Things that require 
manual updating (although that is MY choice for myself) is not a good choice 
for low-knowledge users. Installing from a zip file is also not a good choice 
for them.

Next?

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Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

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At 07:53 AM 3/08/2016, Nicholas English wrote:

>The ancestors of all great Australian adventures in infrastructure are rail 
>and water. 100 years latter we are still paying to fix them both.
>There's no need to learn when an investor can get a return. 

The 'gift' that keeps on giving - like a perpetual money machine to 'keep the 
economy strong' and create 'jobsen groath'.

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Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

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At 09:54 PM 2/08/2016, Roger Clarke wrote:
>Alright, I'm up for it.
>
>I'm prepared to make the prediction that, after autonomous cars take over, 90 
>percent of road accidents will be caused by machine error.

Made me laugh. 

Alternative: the network made me do it.

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Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

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At 11:58 AM 28/07/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote:
>Personally I think AI’s are a long way from developing this 
>‘understanding’ - especially at the hard wired instinctive level that 
>pretty well all fauna and Animalia on this planet do.
>
>And that could be problematic for any truly sapient AI that we develop.
>
>I don’t know if this is making any sense … but what the heck! 

Sure. Now combine yours, mine, David's and possibly Karl and Jim's posts, and 
we have a pretty complete picture. :)

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Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

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At 10:25 AM 28/07/2016, David Lochrin wrote:

>There's no colour in physics, only EM waves of certain wavelengths or photons 
>of certain energies, so where would it come from?  If you can answer that 
>you'll be famous.

LOL doubt it.
 
Rods and cones (something like five different types I think I read at last 
count) respond to specific wavelengths within the visual range. The brain 
constructs the combinations to provide the visual image we perceive. Visual 
perception is an incredibly complex process, involving the visual cortex, the 
limbic system for emotional reaction and autonomic responses (fight/flight) and 
the language and pre-frontal cortex to provide the meaning interpretations to 
behave beyond the reactionary level. Most animals don't have the last two to 
any degree that we can recognise. "Colour" is a word, just like we use words to 
describe sound, e.g. high, low, bass, treble, rumble, piercing, screech.

Or did you mean something else?

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Re: [LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

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At 09:19 PM 27/07/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote:

>I think computers are likely to develop into sapience before sentience … which 
>may be problematic - as this whole discussion so far  points to.

Hmm...I reckon in a rudimentary yet multiple way, computers already are 
sentient, as in sensors - light, sound at least. Touch could be considered in 
terms of we touch pads and they respond. Taste not so much unless you consider 
specialist systems that can measure acid/base levels that I don't know for sure 
exist, but wouldn't surprise me in some lab. Physical analysis is even more 
developed in some computer systems. Consider what they can do with DNA analysis 
that we can't do with our own senses. 

I think this works. We wouldn't equate our fingers or tongues or eyes to our 
brains. They are the receptors and the brain reacts to the sensation, which is 
pretty much what a computer does.

Or is the key word in your sentence "develop"? As in making themselves become 
sapient?

Frank, you should have been in our discussion. It extended into this topic from 
'animal testing and experimentation'.

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Re: [LINK] Robot cars and the fear gap

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At 01:50 PM 14/07/2016, Brendan wrote:

>Presumably, driverless cars are going to disproportionately remove drunks, 
>suicides and young men from the accident statistics. If there is only a 
>marginal improvement in _overall_ statistics, then that implies that they're 
>being balanced by losses from other groups, so you are effectively choosing 
>who will be killed on the roads. 

Just read through the last 8 or so messages on this and didn't see the 
following idea considered.

Mixture - you have some people as passenger/drivers in auto-automobiles and 
others, including those drunks/young people (some girls are reckless too)/Mr 
Magoo seniors squinting over the steering wheels/those intent on taking out 
themselves and a few others along the way. Can an auto-auto anticipate which of 
those non-mid-range drivers are involved when any counter measures are 
required? What are the points of failure that need to be accounted for in these 
scenarios?

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Re: [LINK] Electronic Voting

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At 01:03 PM 11/07/2016, Marghanita da Cruz you wrote:

>Something unusual about this election was that it was in the dead of winter. 
>But it was a beautiful day in Sydney.

Yes, winter was an issue, as well as school holidays. I voted early to avoid 
lines in the wet Melbourne weather. Missed the sausage sizzle, but I can cook 
at home, so no loss there.

Some on twitter are pointing out LOTS of problems with this election, 
including: 
running out of voting papers
not providing voting on the day in hospitals
rumours that some overseas military weren't able to vote (I don't have 
particulars, but that has shown up on twitter)
wrong Senate voting papers in WA "a"? multiple? polling booths, they were 
Victoria ones
closed polling places where people had voted in the past

not to mention the change in the Senate voting rules of multiple numbering 
above and below the line, and how some in ESL voting areas used 1 to 6 on the 
HOUSE sheets because that is the instruction they remembered for the Senate 
sheet.

If you're interested, Lazarus has a plea on his facebook page to file a 
complaint if you encountered any anomolies. He has posted the forms there, plus 
advised he has filed with the AEC already.

https://www.facebook.com/senatorlazarus/posts/514565905416692


I voted in the Arizona primay electronically, but I don't think I'll be able to 
do that for the Federal election, at least I haven't in the past. This is 
either a state enabled thing or a Democratic Party enabled thing for electronic 
lodgement. Will find out in November.

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Re: [LINK] Are Robots Still Just "Tools" When They Are Used to Kill?

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At 12:59 PM 11/07/2016, Paul Bolger wrote:
>I'm not sure though that this approach is justifiable. If the operator
>of the robot/remote unit is not under any danger from the offender are
>they still under the legal protection of 'killing to save themselves'.
>I suspect not.

That's a very good question. But it appears there may be one law for the police 
and another one for everybody else. Until that is sorted, people of color 
aren't safe in the US.

I just listened to a podcast on Generation Why where a man who lived with his 
girlfriend (with a child) in Missoula, Montana was sent away for 70 years for 
baiting who he thought had been stealing from his garage and shooting a kid who 
showed up one night, killing him. Four pump-action shotgun blasts, in the dark 
garage, where he and girlfriend had set up baby-monitor cameras, left the 
garage OPEN, put a high-priced handbag out, and waited three nights for someone 
to show up. Charged and found guilty of intentional homicide. I agree with the 
outcome, but many in the US thought the law should have supported the pot-head 
owner, when he was under no physical threat. Turns out as well that the kid he 
killed was an exchange student, and NOT the one who had stolen his bong, pot 
and iphone from him before.

Worth a listen if you're a podcast junky like me.

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Re: [LINK] The internet should be for everyone

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At 10:17 PM 6/07/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>Senior ABC sources have told The New Daily that the ABC’s move into text 
>publishing was a point of aggravation to News Ltd., in particular with its 
>Canberra lobbyists telling politicians the broadcaster had gone beyond its 
>taxpayer subsidised remit to the detriment of commercial publishers trying to 
>establish and maintain subscription businesses.
>
>A concession to market ideology seemed to be implied in the director of News, 
>Mr Morris’ published explanation for his decision:
>
>“Ending The Drum as our online brand in no way reflects on its quality. The 
>excellence of its work is shown in its strong audience numbers and its loyal 
>following.”
>
>-- 


Next the commercials will be demanding that the ABC drops transcripts because, 
you know, words.

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Re: [LINK] The internet should be for everyone

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At 04:14 PM 5/07/2016, David Boxall wrote:

>>If we keep arguing about the costs over a four year budget cycle we are 
>>unlikely to see a universally acceptable outcome. We need to be building a 
>>futureproofed NBN that is seen as a critical long term investment.

I find it amazing that the country could build an electricity grid, a rail 
network, a road network, and HUGE water pipelines many many decades ago, but 
now is afraid to invest in building the 21st century equivalent. If people back 
then behaved as they are today, we would still be walking or riding horses.

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Re: [LINK] What is Mircosoft trying to do?

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Thanks, Andy

I haven't upgraded and don't intend to. I reckon my machine(s) are optimised 
for whatever OEM OS version they came with. I only upgrade OS when I buy new 
hardware. That's a few years away yet, perhaps.

What is irritating, though, is providing support in our computer club just 
doubled again. And since I haven't upgraded, I'm pretty much stabbing in the 
dark when it comes to answers unless I can get my hands on their machine. From 
there it's not too difficult, but no more phone/email support from me.

Jan

At 02:35 PM 3/07/2016, Andy Farkas wrote:

> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/01/microsoft_gets_creepy_with_win10/
>
>And from the first comment:
>
> https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/06/30/226257/upgradesubscriptionexe-file-in-preview-build-hints-at-windows-10-subscriptions
>
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Re: [LINK] Fibre signal losses and wireless

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At 10:51 AM 2/07/2016, David Lochrin you wrote:
>It sounds very confused, as though the writer imagines a single distribution 
>fibre is split evenly every time it comes to a house, so the signal after 'n' 
>houses is then (2^-n).  But even then, optical transmission is very efficient 
>and transmission loss has nothing to do with the splitter.  Not that I'm any 
>expert on this stuff... 

AFAIK, light doesn't 'degrade' because it's in the glass. It's pulses of light, 
not radio waves w/ frequencies.

This is a pretty good explanation: 
http://www.explainthatstuff.com/fiberoptics.html

The question I have is are they installing single-mode or multi-mode fibre?

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Re: [LINK] Google, Inc., is the world's biggest censor.

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At 11:36 PM 23/06/2016, Kim Holburn wrote:

>> The company maintains at least nine different blacklists that impact our 
>> lives, generally without input or authority from any outside advisory group, 
>> industry association or government agency. 

I'll probably be howled down for this, but they are the publisher of record. 
They own the platform. Someone couldn't come plant a sign in my yard praising 
Malcolm Turnbull without me taking it down asap. Is that censorship?

BTW, I didn't read the article so I may be way off base.

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Re: [LINK] Four different Aussies on four different NBN technologies

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At 04:50 PM 19/06/2016, Frank O'Connor wrote:

>Pretty much what you’d expect from News Ltd (or any MSM outlet in Oz)
>
>Anecdotes from News Ltd selected individuals … if that ain’t unimpeachable 
>evidence, what is?

Had the same thought when I read it, Frank. This is a put up job.

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Re: [LINK] Voter fury rising over sluggish internet speeds

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At 11:35 AM 16/06/2016, David Boxall wrote:
>While we're at it, please stop referring to the NBN. That name is just 
>political spin for a repair job. An effort to make catching-up look like an 
>exciting initiative.
>
>We should probably stop talking about broadband as well; it's just the 
>telecommunications network. The network must be viewed as a whole; 
>concentrating on parts aids political obfuscation. 

Excellent point, David. It obscures what is going on if you unpack it. I tweet 
about this and it feels wrong when you know that it is the variability of the 
promises and the actual implementation that is the problem.

Conroy is on NPC right now, but it seems he's speaking on defence, not NBN.

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Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

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At 01:18 PM 10/06/2016, Karl Auer wrote:
>(Unpauses Radiohead, returns to book). 

How about an AI movie?

http://mashable.com/2016/06/10/ai-movie-script/

At least one's life isn't at risk.

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Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

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At 09:32 PM 9/06/2016, David Lochrin wrote:

>If Volvo are unconditionally accepting "full liability for accidents involving 
>its driverless cars" such questions would not arise, but it seems a very brave 
>move indeed.

Maybe they've run the risk/return numbers on this and figured in the law suit 
costs in the price of the car. 

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Re: [LINK] Why you may not own, or drive your vehicle in 10 years time

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At 11:28 AM 9/06/2016, David Lochrin wrote:
>Stephen & Mike raise a really excellent question (below).  Only a human can 
>assume moral or legal responsibility, so who would be responsible for a death 
>caused by the actions of a vehicle computer? 

I had the same question when I read about the mine truck application. What is 
the legal liability here when one of these auto-autos (ha!) goes off the rails 
and kills someone? We see in scifi the rogue robot and AI goes mad, a la HAL. 
But this is more about what BRD points out - inability to anticipate changed 
environmental circumstances in a dynamic world. Mines are much more 
predictable. People can be kept out with fences, usually. It is a much more 
controlled environment. The Normal world is far from it.

I've just been scanning this convo, so sorry if this has already been 
discussed. In the ehealth world, the issues of medico-legal responsibility is 
still an open question as well as far as I know.

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Re: [LINK] Free access to Australian standards no longer available in public libraries

[JanW]

At 03:58 PM 7/06/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>"Increasingly legislation refers to standards, rather than spelling out
>legal requirements. All that says the community needs to have access to
>standards."
>
>The publishing agreement with SAI Global ends in 2018, with an option to
>renew for a further five year term; however, Dr Byrne said the NSLA was
>attempting to negotiate an alternative publishing arrangement with
>Standards Australia. 

SAI Global has been a problem for a long time. I used to attend standards 
development panels, then I figured out they just wanted free consulting. They 
wouldn't even give contributors a copy of the standard they helped develop. I 
call that theft. But instead of calling them on it, I quit giving freebies.

There are ways to get free pirate copies, which is a hole they backed 
themselves into. It's funny that I was just advised about this in a completely 
different context. Did you know ISO standards are sold in hard copy on Amazon 
now? You can buy a  PDF from ANSI or a hard copy from Amazon for about $20US 
above the PDF price. The one I was looking at was $173US from ANSI.

If SA has any sense, they will rethink this stupid policy or take it back in 
house. You canNOT hold people accountable for things they can't get without 
being held to ransome for it. A consume has NO way of knowing if a company is 
meeting standards. This rort has to stop.

/rant
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Re: [LINK] Y'gotta laugh

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At 09:10 AM 7/06/2016, David Boxall wrote:
>Then there's this comment:
>
>>... he was given two installs on the one day, gets to the first one, mentions 
>>where he the next one is, only to be told it is 3 hours away. Calls the 
>>company he is contractor for to explain he won't be able to get to the second 
>>one that day and they say the jobs can't be that far apart, they have the 
>>same postcode. ...


LOL. That person should have been planted on Q last night. If you missed it, 
I highly recommend watching on iView. Barnaby got a walloping by his country 
people. I was going to say 'brethren', but it was the women taking him to task 
most heavily, and not just about social issues, but about farming issues. It 
was embarrassing, really. He just didn't have any answers. The bush is really 
angry right now. I reckon BJ is toast. NBN and CSG will lose him this election, 
no matter his 'status' as DepPM and Nat leader.

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Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

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At 01:37 PM 1/06/2016, Jim Birch wrote:
>(Smart and attentive) humans are currently better and more adaptable
>drivers.  It's a matter of when, not if, they get overtaken for each
>different driving requirement.  This is pretty much how goes, whether for
>chess, tennis line calls, or driving. 

Did you catch Catalyst last night with the teenager with cerebral palsy driving 
a dune buggy? That was pretty amazing. I wouldn't ride with him, but still, to 
involve different senses was pretty cool.

If you missed it, check it out on iVIEW

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Re: [LINK] There's trouble ahead

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At 11:15 AM 29/05/2016, David Boxall wrote:
>>like kids and their educations, how far left behind will they be if they 
>>can’t access anything? Even socially? Then there is business, It’s 
>>ridiculous trying to upload anything to Youtube, I can only imagine how 
>>frustrating it would be for some to send and receive data. All the while we 
>>are being pushed with one hand to be an “innovative society”, ridiculous. 
>>Well we certainly will have to be innovative in a few years when the internet 
>>no longer works sufficiently to keep up with the rest of the world.
>Surprised that all exchanges aren't already served by fibre.
>
>With ABS figures still showing demand rising exponentially in this country, 
>perhaps it's time to stock up on canned food and bottled water. If our 
>government can manage telecommunications so poorly, heaven knows what else is 
>about to fail. 

Does anyone else think that when Labor releases its NBN policy in coming weeks 
that the polls will go nuts? I'm surprised the bushies aren't screaming bloody 
murder at their Nat MPs. They are being sold down the river -- again.

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Re: [LINK] RFI: Telstra DNS outage

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At 12:15 PM 13/05/2016, Roger Clarke wrote:

>>Update A Telstra spokesman acknowledged last night's outage and attributed it 
>>to a failure with a component that manages traffic ...
>...snip... 

This discussion today was timely. Our computer club met today and asked what 
happened to the Internet last night. I was able to tell them that it wasn't 
their fault.

Link comes to the rescue again!

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Re: [LINK] Surveillance system

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At 11:01 AM 13/05/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:

>Swinburne Uni adds analytics to CCTV
>
>Looking to expand to facial recognition, heat maps. 

And come up with a brand new name:  Prison.




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Re: [LINK] NBN Network on Wheels

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At 02:22 PM 29/04/2016, Tom Worthington wrote:
>I am at a meeting on use of social media for emergencies at University of 
>Sydney. One interesting item is that NBN Co. is building a "Network on Wheels" 
>for deployment in a disaster where the fibre infrastructure has been 
>destroyed. There will also be a "Wireless on Wheels", "Point of Internet 
>Connect on Wheels" and transportable satellite earth stations: 
>http://blog.tomw.net.au/2016/04/nbn-emergeny-management.html

They should talk to Victoria emergency services. I'm pretty sure this was done 
after one of the fires in the last 2-3 years. It's not really a new thing. 
Possibly Telstra did it.

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Re: [LINK] Australia Post to lose passport services

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At 06:15 PM 7/04/2016, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>Then you pay and wait. Including the ten minute appointment
>the complete bureaucratic renewal process took maybe 20 painless minutes. 
>With a photo & ID verification I wouldn't know how it could be more efficient. 

My first thought was if the Post isn't going to do it any more, who will take 
and verify photos?

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Re: [LINK] itN: Reckless MPs okay Driverless Cars

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At 10:03 AM 5/04/2016, Jim Birch wrote:
>A week in a spinal ward might bring home the benefits of driverless cars.
>It's a no brainer when considered in terms of relative risks, rather than
>risk elimination.
>
>They are also likely to improve traffic flow and ease congestion.
>Especially when human drivers are completely gone. 

Middle ground: crash resistant censors as opposed to complete automation. 

Interesting word mix: auto-mobile, auto-mation, auto-matic.

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Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

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At 02:20 PM 4/04/2016, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>And Nine estimates most people have MPEG-4 decoding ability already:
>
>http://www.mediaweek.com.au/nine-is-broadcasting-its-channel-in-hd-but-not-for-everyone/

Just going through the whole channel line-up:

13 TenHD - dead
74 TV4ME USED to work but now dead
76 7flix - dead
78 Racing - dead
[not smart 7 - 3 out of your 6 channels unusable]
90 9HD - can hear, but comes up with a floating box, unlike the others that 
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Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

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At 01:53 PM 4/04/2016, Karl Auer wrote:

>So I'm not knocking video "compression". But I do think people should
>know what they are paying for. 

Here's a different angle on chosen compression. The new 7Flix channel is using 
MPEG4. My HD tv doesn't do MPEG4, evidently just MPEG2. The racing channel also 
uses MPEG4, so I can't see that video either. I can hear both.

My Kogan STB manages7Flix, so I can watch via that and/or record on it. But if 
I want to record some other channel and watch 7Flix on my TV, I can't.

So why did 7 network choose this? I know I'm not alone. I found out that it 
wasn't by reading the Whirlpool thread on it.

Bottom line: not all compression is created equal.

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Re: [LINK] The NBN is already out of date, but it's not too late to change course

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At 03:16 PM 30/03/2016, David Boxall wrote:

>Sadly, today's Conservatives seem terrified of the future. Asking them for 
>anything "with long-term sustainability in mind" is asking them to confront 
>that which causes them to soil their nappies. 

It's the same at state level. You should have heard David Davis (he who was 
former health minister in Victoria who was a fail) this morning on Faine 
pushing back on new rail services. It was breathtaking. Faine pushed back - the 
ping pong of politics will kill this state. Long term projects are nearly 
impossible to attempt.

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[LINK] Fwd: Re: The wonders of NBN

[JanW]

Linkers,
You may remember that I wrote to Senator Fiona Nash last month about the NBN 
fiasco as David shared re the people in Tasmania. (original message below for 
reference)

I got a reply today -- from someone in the Dept of Communications and the Arts, 
via a no-reply delivery system, with a non-copyable PDF attached. Since I don't 
think Link allows attachments, I decided to create a blog post so I could share 
this letter (you can download the PDF linked to within my post). It makes for 
interesting reading.

http://janwhitaker.com/a-minister-replies-re-nbn-sort-of/

Jan


>Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:26:15 +1100
>To: senator.n...@aph.gov.au
>From: JanW <jw...@internode.on.net>
>Subject: Re: [LINK] The wonders of NBN
>Bcc: David Boxall <lin...@boxall.name>
>
>Dear Minister Nash
>
>Here is something you can possibly attend to or push someone in your new area 
>of responsibility to attend to. This sounds like a right stuff-up.
>You're stuck with a dud system. Perhaps you can influence some improvements.
>
>Sincerely,
>Jan Whitaker
>Berwick Victoria
>
>
>
>
>><https://www.facebook.com/groups/BIRRR/permalink/470454783163214/>
>>> Today is day 21 with a failed NBN connection for us. We live in Port 
>>> Huon, Tasmania, in the beautiful rural Huon Valley.
>>>
>>> We have had one occasion where an NBN technician has turned up, the 
>>> day before a scheduled appointment because the technician was in the 
>>> street doing another job. We were not at home.
>>>
>>> Since then there have now been four scheduled appointments to which no 
>>> NBN technician has shown up. Excuses, via the ISP from NBN have 
>>> included - 'We didn't have all the correct information" which is 
>>> incorrect. "They weren't home, so we left a card in the post box" 
>>> which has never happened. "We went to the wrong address" which is 
>>> unverifiable, oh and my favorite "We don't often go down there." Which 
>>> is clearly correct. I await with interest the excuse for the no show 
>>> on Friday, appointment 4, perhaps " The dog ate my Purchase 
>>> Order/IPhone/Car Keys?"
>>>
>>> We are struggling to cope with one iPad with Telstra 3G for which we 
>>> will likely need to take out a mortgage.
>>>
>>> My business is seriously affected.
>>>
>>> No one appears to have control over the activities of the NBN, and I 
>>> am grateful for the efforts of my ISP. it appears to be ineffective 
>>> however.
>>>
>>> I am at a loss as to how to move forward. Direct contact with the NBN 
>>> results in "There's nothing we can do" there is no mechanism for 
>>> members of the public to address this kind of appalling service. There 
>>> is no accountability.
>>>
>>> All we need is for the NBN box in our house to be fixed.
>>>
>>> please does anyone have any strategies, ideas or ways to move this 
>>> forward?
>>
>>Our government clearly wants to screw up our telecommunications.
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Re: [LINK] Why Learning To Code Won't Save Your Job

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At 11:22 AM 27/03/2016, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:

>This article is adappted from Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus: How
>Growth Became the Enemy of Prosperity by Douglas Rushkoff, 

In the famous words of FUnderwood, when you don't like the game, turn over the 
table.

What if growth wasn't the driving metaphor? What if it was happiness, 
fulfilment, creativity, caring, mutual support, sharing -- all those human 
values thingos. What if money and acquisition, what's that word the Libs always 
use? oh, right, 'aspiration', and greed weren't so exalted? It's all a matter 
of perspective.

Happy bunny day, everyone.

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Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

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At 09:48 AM 26/03/2016, Frank O'Connor you wrote:
>To my mind … its not an argument for anything and a pointless  filler on the 
>part of Fairfax. Perhaps the standard of their editorial staff has reached new 
>lows and they are simply desperate for content that their steadily shrinking 
>stable of journalists can’t provide. 

Made me look up the writer, 

Spandas Lui

Started in Lifehacker section of Fairfax in 2015. Gets a byline but not a link 
to other articles, which is interesting. A quick search shows her to be in all 
the 'right' social media places if you want more info on her background.
Commenters have pushed back - hard.

Fairfax is dying. Their best journos jumped ship long ago, moving to places 
where scrutiny is valued. Murdoch press will follow.

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Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

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At 08:16 PM 25/03/2016, David Boxall wrote:

>

I would just like to know why YouTube vids stop every 5 minutes. It's not my 
network connection/provider because it doesn't happen with other streaming 
services like Netflix. It's just Youtube. And of course if Youtube recognises 
there's a problem and shows me the Internode performance, there is nothing 
there to indicate it's an Internode problem.

As for speeds -- the avg is because the avg install is ADSL, with its plus or 
minus 8mbps top speed. If there has been increases month to month as the 
article says, that is the minor effect of people slowly slowly slowly being 
added to NBN type services.

Jan


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Re: [LINK] "Broadband" service to not-very-remote premises

[JanW]

At 09:23 AM 24/03/2016, David Boxall wrote:

>The story of another business and family blighted by our degraded 
>telecommunications infrastructure. I wonder where we would be, but for 
>privatisation. Would we need an NBN project or would we already have 
>infrastructure for the 21st century?

I hope all these people on FB are actually writing to their MPs and complaining 
loudly about this. Threaten to withdraw their vote, put in the original people 
who supported a real comms system.

Jan


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