Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-22 Thread Ron Greve
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Re: CTC between linux & zOS.

2004-03-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/22/2004 at 10:18 EST, "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong (I haven't played with MVS TCPIP definitions much), > but in this statement: > LINK CTC37CTC 1 CTC3X7 > doesn't the "1" say to swap the read channel with the write channel? If so, > I

Re: CTC between linux & zOS.

2004-03-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Correct me if I'm wrong (I haven't played with MVS TCPIP definitions much), but in this statement: LINK CTC37CTC 1 CTC3X7 doesn't the "1" say to swap the read channel with the write channel? If so, I would think that is your problem, since the entry in chandev.conf ctc0,0x0d33,0x0d32,0,3

CTC between linux & zOS.

2004-03-22 Thread Steve Bui
We have a need to connect the zOS system to a linux (SuSE v8) system thru the internal escon ctc for ftp & lpr traffic. We got both sides to connect so far, but whenever we ping the zOS system from the linux system, the ctc goes down on the zOS side. If we ping the linux system from the zOS sys

Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize on eckd (corrected)

2004-03-22 Thread Jim Sibley
I was extrapolating based on the fact that both the 1k and 4k filesystems filled at 54%. So, I've tried to up the inode sizes. I can specify a large number (> 2M) for the 1k and I get 1,654,784 inodes, but I only am able to get 622,592 inodes for the 4k blocks. (-N 2,000,000 -i 8192). Yet there a

Re: Scheduling on z/VM

2004-03-22 Thread Dave Jones
For simple scheduling of events, I prefer to use the SCHEDULE tool, written by Simon Kharnas. It's much friendlier that WAKEUP, imho, and has options for just about any type of scheduling situation that you might have. Good luck. Dave Jones Sine Nomine Associates Houston - Original Message -

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread David Boyes
> The > sendmail virtual machine has 2 virtual processors. I was thinking to > increase to 4 to avoid some processor contention but I do not > know so much > about it. Don't. sendmail is an I/O intensive application, not processor intensive. You'll get more benefit from setting up a number of sma

RES: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Giancarlo Rodolfi
Actually I'm not using the eligible list (QUICKDSP ON for this machine) and I've a lot of CPU (10 z990 IFLS) and memory 22GB plus 14GB of expanded. The sendmail virtual machine has 2 virtual processors. I was thinking to increase to 4 to avoid some processor contention but I do not know so much abo

Re: Installing SLES8 31-bit on z990

2004-03-22 Thread Ann Smith
The number (on the back of the binder) is also different . The SuSE folks are used to these numbers. The 64-bit version for zSeries is 2111-3INT1. The 31-bit version of S/390 is 2110-3INT1. "Knutson, Sam" wrote: > If you have SLES 8 the Media Kit will say > > Linux for zSeries (this is the 64bit

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Absolutely agreed. Not knowing what else might be in the machine I didn't want to strangle it too much. I indicated that after some monitoring, it could come down somewhat more. On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:10, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: > 256M? > > I'd give it only 64M. We run Apache servers and Samba

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
256M? I'd give it only 64M. We run Apache servers and Samba servers in as little as 48M with SuSE SLES8. Be sure to give it lots of swap space though, at least as much as the virtual storage. I'd recommend swap in V-disk, and make sure your LPAR has plenty of expanded storage. Do all of this a

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread David Boyes
> The virual machine has 1.5GB of memory, This is probably the biggest reason. You're probably getting forced into the eligible list and your virtual machine is so large that it's never getting scheduled again. Break the two functions (mail delivery and POP access) into two different virtual mach

Re: HTTP Engine for Linux zSeries

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
The customers that I've worked with all use the IBM HTTP Server for WebSphere. On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:31, Kevin A. Schmidt - at Potomac Electric Power Company wrote: > We have started down the Linux zSeries road. We currently have SUSE Linux > running on an LPAR on our IBM 9672-RB6. > > Our fir

Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize on eckd (corrected)

2004-03-22 Thread David Boyes
> The fact that you ran out of inodes means that if you re-ran > the mke2fs with > a different inode value, you would be able to store more > files on that file > system. Proper selection of inode values frequently isn't an > issue, but it > can become one, as in this case. This is particularly v

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Is Sendmail the only thing running in this virtual machine? If so, 1.5GB is way overkill. Try backing off to 256MB and monitor your storage utilization with free and vmutil. You may find that you can reduce it somewhat further. On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:49, Giancarlo Rodolfi wrote: > I have a cu

Re: Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 13:49, Giancarlo Rodolfi wrote: > I have a cutomer running Sendmail and POP Server under a Linux RedHat vitual > machine. The system is hanging and he has to "force" the machine off the > system and restart. I can see any messages on the zvm console or under linux > that could

Sendmail Under zLinux Hanging

2004-03-22 Thread Giancarlo Rodolfi
I have a cutomer running Sendmail and POP Server under a Linux RedHat vitual machine. The system is hanging and he has to "force" the machine off the system and restart. I can see any messages on the zvm console or under linux that could give me any explanation about what is happening. I'm running

Re: HTTP Engine for Linux zSeries

2004-03-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Well, it may be the IBM HTTP server, but that uses the Apache "engine." If it were my money, I'd keep it and use Apache, given those two choices. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin A. Schmidt - at Potomac Electric Power Comp

Re: Installing SLES8 31-bit on z990

2004-03-22 Thread Knutson, Sam
If you have SLES 8 the Media Kit will say Linux for zSeries (this is the 64bit version) or Linux for S/390 (this is the 32 bit version) Be careful as many applications including DB2 UDB for Linux/390 do NOT support 64 bit operation. Even applications which may appear to work may not be certifi

HTTP Engine for Linux zSeries

2004-03-22 Thread Kevin A. Schmidt - at Potomac Electric Power Company
We have started down the Linux zSeries road. We currently have SUSE Linux running on an LPAR on our IBM 9672-RB6. Our first customer for the Linux zSeries is going to be using WebSphere Application Server for Linux zSeries. As I was researching the installation of WebSphere App Server V5.1, I fo

Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize on eckd (corrected)

2004-03-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Loosely speaking, one way to tell the theoretical maximum you can store on a file system is to do a "df" command. If you add the -i parameter, that will tell you the number of inodes you have available. The maximum number of files will be equal to the smaller of the 1K blocks and the inodes. If

Re: Installing SLES8 31-bit on z990

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
You need to get the 31-bit Linux installation media. On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 12:52, Arty Ecock wrote: > Hi, > >I know I'm missing the obvious, but how do I force an install of a 31-bit > SLES8 on z z990 (running unver z/VM, of course)? > > Cheers, > Arty > > -

Installing SLES8 31-bit on z990

2004-03-22 Thread Arty Ecock
Hi, I know I'm missing the obvious, but how do I force an install of a 31-bit SLES8 on z z990 (running unver z/VM, of course)? Cheers, Arty -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EM

Re: cpio oddity?

2004-03-22 Thread Nick Laflamme
I wrote: A colleague is having problems using cpio on a SLES 8 image to install a tarball with the Oracle 9 database server software in it. He gets no response at all from the cpio command; the same command on the same tarball on one of his AIX systems gets lots of output immediately, so the tarba

Myth of the 1K blocksize on eckd (corrected)

2004-03-22 Thread Jim Sibley
To answer both Mark and Tom 1) Both the 1k and 4k block experiment topped out at 54% of the file system full, so, yes, you do run out of inodes sooner, but you have more "capacity" for inodes with 4k blocks. Additionally, chasing the inode chain from disk (not cache) would be quicker with 4k bloc

cpio oddity?

2004-03-22 Thread Nick Laflamme
A colleague is having problems using cpio on a SLES 8 image to install a tarball with the Oracle 9 database server software in it. He gets no response at all from the cpio command; the same command on the same tarball on one of his AIX systems gets lots of output immediately, so the tarball seems i

Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize on eckd (corrected)

2004-03-22 Thread Carsten Otte
>I would imagine that it's more likely you ran out of inodes in both cases. >"man mke2fs" will talk about the "-i bytes-per-inode" parameter. "df -i" >will show you inode usage on each file system. I second Mark's opinion. You ran out of inodes. In case of sufficient inode space you'll be able to

Re: Relationship of parmfile device order to filesystem 'letter' (dasda, dasdb etc)

2004-03-22 Thread Post, Mark K
James, Almost completely correct. In fact, where your root file system is located has nothing to do with what device number you IPL/boot from. It just so happens that the volume containing the root file system has been where things default to, because that is where the /boot directory is most oft

Relationship of parmfile device order to filesystem 'letter' (dasda, dasdb etc)

2004-03-22 Thread James Melin
If I am understanding this correctly.. Parmfile device order determines what devices is what file system Parmfile: dasd=a23c,b213,b214,b215,b216,a23d root=/dev/dasdb1 noinitrd cat /proc/dasd/devices seems to confirm the device/filesystem relationship. Now /etc/fstab has this: /dev/dasda1

Re: Installing SP3 on SLES8

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
You should be able to vary the volume online to OS/390 and back it up with standard tools. You will want to restore it to a different volume and bring it up first, before you start any maintenance, to verify that your backup and restore works. Here's an example of some JCL that someone sent me:

Re: Installing SP3 on SLES8

2004-03-22 Thread Geiger, Mike
Okay. That sounds like a good start. How do I do this? And "IF" my Linux will no longer come up how do I restore these? I am running SLES8 in an LPAR, so I do not have any of the neat tricks and tools VM affords one. I am still very much a Linux (of any flavor) newbe. Michael A. Geiger Sr.

Re: Installing SP3 on SLES8

2004-03-22 Thread James Tison
Mike, About the only way I can think of is to create a 2nd image of your machine, and see if the updates work there. This is difficult if you're running on an LPAR/native, but easy if you're under VM. We took this approach. We did find some changes in the tape drivers that didn't trickle down into

Re: Installing SP3 on SLES8

2004-03-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
I think there is an option to keep the old RPMs. But the safest method is to take a full backup (and maybe 2). On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 07:55, Geiger, Mike wrote: > Anyone have any ideas as to where to read or a methodology on how to begin/perform > this process in a safe and recoverable way? > > T

Installing SP3 on SLES8

2004-03-22 Thread Geiger, Mike
Anyone have any ideas as to where to read or a methodology on how to begin/perform this process in a safe and recoverable way? TIA, Michael A. Geiger Sr. Operating Systems Programmer CommerceQuest, Inc. 5481 W. Waters Ave. Tampa, FL 33634 Tel. 813.639.6516 --

Re: SuSE 9.1 for zSeries ???

2004-03-22 Thread Joachim Schröder
Am Freitag, 19. März 2004 16:20 schrieb Rod Furey: > They have different release tracks for different products: > > Home/Professional > Desktop > SLES > SLSS > > The thing is, I can't find a reference on the site. I have a > reference in one of my Linux mags, but I can't find an > equivalent on the