Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Noll, Ralph
zvmlinx6:~# vgdisplay /dev/lvmdata vgdisplay -- volume group lvmdata not found zvmlinx6:~# vgcreate lvmdata /dev/dasd/0a1d/part1 vgcreate -- /dev/dasd/0a1d/part1 is not a new physical volume vgcreate -- physical volume /dev/dasd/0a1d/part1 already belongs to volume group lvmdata zvmlinx6:~#

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Craig Kittendorf
I found the bootshell.cc source (v1.3). Are there any current binaries? Thanks, Craig -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shutdown by Operations

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Nakagawa, Robert
You might also try Webmin and only give access to the shutdown and or reboot process found at http://www.webmin.com . This is a GNU license and is perl based. Great for other procedures as well. Bob -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam

Z890 IOCP for IFL

2004-11-18 Thread Boyes, Maureen S.
We are setting up our 2086 to prepare for Linux native or Linux under VM. How do we set the definitions for the IFL's. We have two other LPARS running native VSE. We do out IOCP on the HMC - not through VSE. TIA. Maureen S. Boyes Senior Systems Analyst MFS Investment Management 500 Boylston

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Noll, Ralph
zvmlinx6:~# fdasd /dev/dasd/0a1d/disc reading volume label: VOL1 reading vtoc: ok Command action m print this menu p print the partition table n add a new partition d delete a partition v change volume serial t change partition type r re-create VTOC s

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2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
On Nov 17, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Carsten Otte wrote: You might as well be interrested in our DCSS execute-in-place filesystem. This one allows you to put your applications and shared libraries in DCSS segments, and they can be used/executed on individual guests without copying into virtual

SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
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Re: linux nss

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:59:01 +0100, Rod Furey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does all this mean that we'll be able to go IPL 201 PARM saveseg=suse80nn or not? Or is that what the missing part after the above and to was going to be? Yea, that's what autosave means. with kind regards Carsten Otte

VM VSE linux/390 Employment Web Page

2004-11-18 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
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Re: problems during sles9 installation

2004-11-18 Thread Daniel Jarboe
What was the amount you gave it (for those that follow)? The doc said 256MB+ for nfs, 512MB for ftp/VNC. I had 256MB plus some swap (which the installer activated), and at the time of the failure this looked like more than enough. The system was up to 110MB just for buffer/cache with another

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Ranga Nathan
On any machine, I always operate with my userid and use 'sudo' as much as possible. Even I dont trust myself logging in as root as I issue commands fast and furious sometimes! __ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Ranga Nathan
If you dont have it already, install GNU sudo utility. Create a user for the operations In the sudo utility give this user only reboot / shutdown access. An entry like opsuserid ALL=(ALL) /sbin/halt,/sbin/reboot,/sbin/shutdown will allow opsuserid permisison only for those

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
C++, actually, which means you need to make _sure_ you compile it with the g++ command and not gcc. If you don't, the link fails in an ugly way. Fortunately, Mike documented the exact command needed, right in the program comments. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2004-11-17 at 21:52, Craig Kittendorf wrote: Newbie question: Is there a way to allow Operations to shutdown without giving them root's password? One common way people do this is to add a shutdown user whose password is known to operations staff and whose shell is /sbin/shutdown (or

linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Barton Robinson
PLEASE PROVIDE A SUBJECT LINE of relevance I almost ignored this and have no idea the original thread. Isn't the problem with dcss is that they are very limited? They must be less than 2GB in address - pretty hard to have a 5GB pages space fit below 2gb virtual. Lots of virtual machines

Re: Z890 IOCP for IFL

2004-11-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Baril
Hi Maureen, Let's see. I have no way to check now but I believe that you edit your IOCDS input file on the SE to add your Linux/VM LPAR(s) and all related I/O definitions (CHPID, CU, IODEVICE) to produce a refreshed IOCDS in one of the four slots (A0-A3). Then modify/add a Reset Profile to assign

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 18, 2004, at 7:51 AM, Noll, Ralph wrote: zvmlinx6:~# fdasd /dev/dasd/0a1d/disc ... Device start end length Id System /dev/dasd/0a1d/part1 250084500831 Linux native Looks good to me??? Yep. It's fine. Adam

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 18, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Noll, Ralph wrote: vgdisplay not found Vgcreate already belongs Lvdisplay doesn't exist ? This is a new one on me. I'll play around with creating some LVM space and let you know if I can reproduce it, but I may well not get to it this week. Adam

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
Hi Barton, today you have a full 2G of space for dcsses available - even when using lage main memory. You can use dcss swapping with oracle, and all other apps you have in mind. You can mix different swapping devices easily with Linux, you can even priorize using them. When you need 500gig of

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2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
I wrote: Yea, you're telling me news I told Rob before [circle closed]. The point is: I do not recommend it to customers until we are done testing. But looks to be very much faster than vdisk indeed. Today I learned, that Rob worked on DCSS swap in parallel. Looks like we're pushing the same idea

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 18, 2004, at 10:04 AM, Carsten Otte wrote: Hi Barton, today you have a full 2G of space for dcsses available - even when using lage main memory. I may be confused, but I thought you had to define your DCSSes above the top of the memory Linux used. What does the IPL line look like if you

RHEL 4 beta installation

2004-11-18 Thread Biggs, Eric J [ITS]
I've been testing Red Hat 4 beta. I was wondering if anyone knows where to find a comprehensive list of all the values that can be set in the PARMFILE during installation. I have these set: root=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=4 DASD=0200

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread David Kreuter
In the case of swapping to EW DCSS it would be a separate address space so the rules are not the same as the XIP2 type of mapped file system. David From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Adam Thornton Sent: Thu 11/18/2004 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:20:48 -0500, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of swapping to EW DCSS it would be a separate address space so the rules are not the same as the XIP2 type of mapped file system. No you're wrong. The DCSS must be mapped into the virtual machine address

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Barton Robinson
Hi Carsten, i just don't believe that under stress conditions that in today's environement you can show value to paging to dcss over vdisk. This being with z/vm 5.1 and a current redhat or suse. The ibm recomendations i keep hearing being repeated are that swap sizes must be some multiple of the

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
I may be confused, but I thought you had to define your DCSSes above the top of the memory Linux used. What does the IPL line look like if you want 100 MB at 1G, and space usable by Linux both above and below it? This issue has been solved. With our new memory detection you can use #cp def store

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
In the case of swapping to EW DCSS it would be a separate address space so the rules are not the same as the XIP2 type of mapped file system. David Nope, you can do the same with xip2fs. You can create storage holes and fill them with your filesystem. with kind regards Carsten Otte -- omnis enim

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:52:13 +0100, Carsten Otte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, you can do the same with xip2fs. You can create storage holes and fill them with your filesystem. For the oldbies among us - this is effectively what we did with CMS and segment reserve, because we did not have def

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
Hi Carsten, i just don't believe that under stress conditions that in today's environement you can show value to paging to dcss over vdisk. This being with z/vm 5.1 and a current redhat or suse. Why don't you measure it? My simple measurements (I am not a performance guy but the developer)

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Note that this in the past, Novell only offered the x86 version for evaluation downloads. This page now has all these available: SUSE LINUX Enterprise Sever 9 for X86-AMD64/EM64T SUSE LINUX Enterprise Sever 9 for Itanium SUSE LINUX Enterprise Sever 9 for IBM Power SUSE LINUX Enterprise Sever 9

Re: Slack/390 3270 support

2004-11-18 Thread Richard Pinion
FYI - 3270 console support is available in TaoLinux/390. All I had to do was mknod tty c 227 1 in the /dev directory and add conmode=3270 to the zipl parm in /etc/yourzipl.conf and issue zipl -c /etc/yourzipl.conf. The /dev/console device already had a major of 5 and minor of 1.

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
The actual ISO files are labeled RC5. Is this the latest version, or something behind? Has the actual GA version been released yet? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Post, Mark K Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Barton Robinson
So ibm would rather an outside vendor do the measurements? and that any customer with performance problems should run future or unsupported levels of code in production? And that vm developement's opinions are better than real data? my my. Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:12:50 +0100 From:

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Seader, Cameron
it is labeled RC5 only on the first CD. I use it and it is just fine. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download The

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
The GA level was released some time ago (back in the summer). They also have RC5 in them. There's been a lot of patches since but no new .iso's. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Nope, all 12 ISO images have RC5 or RC5a in the file names. Way back when SUSE was first preparing to release SLES7, they provided a free evaluation version that was so far behind the actual SLES7, it was just about unusable. I was just trying to find out how close to the real distro these

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Seader, Cameron
I use them, i downloaded them from Novell secure site. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download Nope, all 12 ISO

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Great. I hadn't seen the GA version of SLES9, but I have final versions of the SLES8 service packs that are also labeled RC-something. Just wanted to find out how close to the actual distribution this version is. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Joerg Reuter
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 12:23:06PM -0500, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote: The actual ISO files are labeled RC5. Is this the latest version, or something behind? Has the actual GA version been released yet? RC5 is the one and only GA version. ;-) -- Joerg Reuter

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
With the no-cost 30-day support, you would be able to bring it up to absolutely current, no matter what state the CD images were in. Just fire up YOU and let it go. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) Sent:

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
So, one developer stating that his time is better spent writing code than doing performance testing for which he's not qualified, somehow represents an official IBM position? I think you're stretching a little here, and shooting the messenger on top of it. Mark Post -Original Message-

Re: Shutdown by Operations

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Look in the file. The one command you need to build it is in the comments at the top. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Kittendorf Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shutdown by

Re: RHEL 4 beta installation

2004-11-18 Thread Post, Mark K
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/nahant-beta2/en/Docs/RH-DOCS/rhe l-ig-s390-multi-en-3.93/s1-s390-steps-vm.html Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Biggs, Eric J [ITS] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:20 AM To:

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Carsten Otte
So ibm would rather an outside vendor do the measurements? and that any customer with performance problems should run future or unsupported levels of code in production? And that vm developement's opinions are better than real data? my my. You really seem to try hard to get me wrong. We are off

Re: SLES9 Evaulation Download

2004-11-18 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Works for me, thanks! -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joerg Reuter Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES9 Evaulation Download On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 12:23:06PM -0500, Hall,

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Noll, Ralph
The last of a series of testing /dev/dasd/0300/part1: clean, 5945/36032 files, 32073/35976 blocks Calculating module dependencies... done. Loading modules: LVM version 1.0.1-rc4(ish)(03/10/2001) module loaded Setting up LVM Volume Groups... vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Noll, Ralph
Got it figured out.. Had the wrong vol name in the vm directory Something simple but important Thanks for all your help Ralph -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LVM under

Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 18, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Noll, Ralph wrote: Got it figured out.. Had the wrong vol name in the vm directory Something simple but important Yep, that would do it all right, if you weren't working with the volume you thought you were working with. Glad it worked out. Adam

SLES 9 - dropping connection during install

2004-11-18 Thread Ranga Nathan
SuSE 9 dropped vnc/ssh connection part way through the install. I finished the parallel disk format from the vnc (view browser). On the z/VM screen for LINTEST (my first linux gust) I saw the holding message. I hit clear a couple of times and then wanted to check the disks. Did a #cp i cms and

Re: SLES 9 - dropping connection during install

2004-11-18 Thread Seader, Cameron
The ramdisk loading should not take that long. I load my from an ftp server and its fast. However you should be able to just start the vnc viewer back up and connect back up and be on your way. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ranga

Re: SLES 9 - dropping connection during install

2004-11-18 Thread Robert J Brenneman
I hit clear a couple of times and then wanted to check the disks. This is ok - as long as you get RUNNING in the bottom right corner your Linux is doing things... Did a #cp i cms and then a q disk. But did not know how to get back to the SuSE install. Meanwhile I lost the ssh/vnc connection.

Re: linux swap to dcss?

2004-11-18 Thread Bill Bitner
A few thoughts on various statements: 1.The Linux development process is a little different than the traditional S390 where we test things ad nauseum before we let them out the door. I apologize that VM Performance hasn't had time to fully measure the swap to dcss. It's on the list, but