Re: VM system name

2020-10-04 Thread Alan Ackerman
I’m sorry. A great deal of email on my Mac disappeared last summer and recently reappeared. I’ m going back and trying to respond to old emails. I don’t know what happened. I installed the beta version on MacOSX Big Sur last summer and I’m guessing that caused email to disappear and when Apple

Re: VM system name

2020-10-04 Thread Mark Post
On 10/3/20 8:10 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote: > I think it's rude of you to post a question to a public forum and then tell > me I have no say because I'm retired. It's been over two months, Alan. Have you been holding on to this that whole time? I participate in this mailing list for a variety of

Re: VM system name

2020-10-03 Thread Alan Ackerman
I said: Yes! I spent a fair amount of time writing EXECs to figure these things out when I worked for Bank of America. I put the results on a web page that listed all our VM systems. I’m retired so I don’t need it any more. Mark said: OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the

New qclib release (follow-up to VM system name discussion)

2020-09-11 Thread Stefan Raspl
qclib v2.2 is out! It introduces two new commands: * zname: Prints information about the IBM Z model generation * zhypinfo: Prints information about virtualization layers The latter stems from a request on this mailing list. For further details, check out our blog post at

Re: VM system name

2020-08-05 Thread David Boyes
> Not so sure about the format, though - the one above is hard to read, and I > would claim it might be prone to produce errors on all parties involved - e.g. > whenever we add further fields. Something that correlates the values to a > field > name is preferable - maybe something like JSON could

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Stefan Raspl
n 04/08/2020 11:54:37: > >> From: Stefan Raspl >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Date: 04/08/2020 11:54 >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [LINUX-390] VM system name >> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port >> >> Hi Conny, >> >> On 2020-08-04 10:32, Cornel

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Ingo Adlung
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [LINUX-390] VM system name > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > Hi Conny, > > On 2020-08-04 10:32, Cornelia Huck wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:33:38 +0200 > > Stefan Raspl wrote: > > > >> Hi Tim, > >> Thanks for your fee

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Stefan Raspl
Hi Conny, On 2020-08-04 10:32, Cornelia Huck wrote: > On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:33:38 +0200 > Stefan Raspl wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> Thanks for your feedback, your thoughts are greatly appreciated! >> >> On 2020-08-04 07:56, Timothy Sipples wrote: >>> Would this readout make better sense? >>> >>> $

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Stefan Raspl
10:14 > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VM system name > > Caution! External email. Do not open attachments or click links, unless this > email comes from a known sender and you know the content is safe. > > What about a JSON output option? > > > Ori

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
:14 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM system name Caution! External email. Do not open attachments or click links, unless this email comes from a known sender and you know the content is safe. What about a JSON output option? Original message From: "van Sle

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Cornelia Huck
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 09:33:38 +0200 Stefan Raspl wrote: > Hi Tim, > Thanks for your feedback, your thoughts are greatly appreciated! > > On 2020-08-04 07:56, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > Would this readout make better sense? > > > > $ zhypinfo > > NoLayer TypeName

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Neale Ferguson
What about a JSON output option? Original message From: "van Sleeuwen, Berry" Date: 8/4/20 18:04 (GMT+10:00) To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] VM system name I think the underscore would be required. If the output is processed by some script i

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Forum 3000 5657 EW Eindhoven -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 07:57 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM system name Caution! External email. Do not open attachments or click links, unless this email comes from

Re: VM system name

2020-08-04 Thread Stefan Raspl
Hi Tim, Thanks for your feedback, your thoughts are greatly appreciated! On 2020-08-04 07:56, Timothy Sipples wrote: > Would this readout make better sense? > > $ zhypinfo > NoLayer TypeName IFL CP >

Re: VM system name

2020-08-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
Would this readout make better sense? $ zhypinfo NoLayer TypeName IFL CP -- 2.2 z/VM_Guest guest myguest2 0 2.1 z/VM_Resource_Pool poolpooltest

Re: VM system name

2020-08-03 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-18 20:58, Mark Post wrote: > On 7/17/20 12:18 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: >> Late to the game, but I would probably make a .service file that did >> something like >> >> ExecStart= echo $(/sbin/vmcp q userid | awk '{print $3}') > /etc/vmsysname >> >> and then anything could look at the

Re: VM system name

2020-07-31 Thread Stefan Raspl
Hi David, Thanks for your considerations, greatly appreciated! On 2020-07-30 02:28, David Boyes wrote: > On 7/22/20, 9:29 AM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Stefan Raspl" > wrote: >> Would people find it helpful if a command is introduced to the >> s390-tools package that will return one or

Re: VM system name

2020-07-29 Thread David Boyes
On 7/22/20, 9:29 AM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Stefan Raspl" wrote: > Would people find it helpful if a command is introduced to the > s390-tools package that will return one or more of the following data > points: > 1. z/VM or KVM Guest name > 2. z/VM Host name > 3. KVM Host name > 4.

Re: VM system name

2020-07-28 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-25 01:46, Alan Altmark wrote: > In some sense you are creating a UUID for the container. > > CPCname.LPAR.System_id.userid.system_id.userid > > Having to handle second level systems and LPAR only, too. > > Perhaps prefixed with nn, where nn tells you how many levels of VM. 01 >

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Alan Altmark
In some sense you are creating a UUID for the container. CPCname.LPAR.System_id.userid.system_id.userid Having to handle second level systems and LPAR only, too. Perhaps prefixed with nn, where nn tells you how many levels of VM. 01 means native LPAR. Regards, Alan Altmark IBM > On Jul

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Post
On 7/24/20 5:33 PM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > Fair enough. So in case we detect 2nd or higher level guests, we could indiate > so and limit output to e.g. CEC and LPAR only - is that how you would handle > things? I might need a diagram to make sure I understand what you're saying, but it sounds

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-24 17:29, Mark Post wrote: > On 7/24/20 3:26 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: >> Hi Mark, > > Hi, Stefan, > >> The problem with that is that you will get into trouble as soon as you >> consider >> 2nd-level installs where you have multiple guests and hypervisors to >> display/query. We'd need

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Post
On 7/24/20 3:26 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > Hi Mark, Hi, Stefan, > The problem with that is that you will get into trouble as soon as you > consider > 2nd-level installs where you have multiple guests and hypervisors to > display/query. We'd need multiple switches to address the different levels

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Mark Post wrote: >I was thinking more in terms of command line switches that determine >what should be returned. For example: >cmdname --guest Would return the name of my running guest >cmdname --host Would return the name of the z/VM or KVM host. >cmdname --lpar

Re: VM system name

2020-07-24 Thread Stefan Raspl
Hi Mark, On 2020-07-23 21:16, Mark Post wrote: > On 7/23/20 3:17 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: >> I could imagine writing a simplistic tool >> that displays all virtualization levels down to the CEC, with the potential >> to >> extend it in the future. > > Hi, Stefan, > > I was thinking more in

Re: VM system name

2020-07-23 Thread Bruce Lightsey
+whatever ( and we are on SuSE 15 as a bonus) OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help the business case). Anyone else? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: VM system name

2020-07-23 Thread Mauro Souza
> people would be interested in finding out they're running 6 layers of virtualization deep Like having a partition with zVM, with a zVM second level, with a Linux inside, running KVM, with a Linux on the KVM running a Docker container, and a JVM inside the container, trying to benchmark Bcrypt

Re: VM system name

2020-07-23 Thread Mark Post
On 7/23/20 3:17 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > I could imagine writing a simplistic tool > that displays all virtualization levels down to the CEC, with the potential to > extend it in the future. Hi, Stefan, I was thinking more in terms of command line switches that determine what should be

Re: VM system name

2020-07-23 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-22 19:27, Mark Post wrote: > On 7/22/20 9:28 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > >> qclib, which was linked to earlier in the thread, offers all the info. > > Indeed, which is what I would have based anything I wrote on. > > -snip- >> It seems like there's a use for most of the data provided

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 4:44 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote: > As far as I know they are running Red Hat. > > Why does that matter? Because I work for SUSE, and any tools I write would be distributed by SUSE in the s390-tools package. I doubt very much Red Hat would pick it up for their distribution. But, you never

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Alan Ackerman
As far as I know they are running Red Hat. Why does that matter? Alan Ackerman alan.ackerma...@gmail.com On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote: > +1 OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help the business case).

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 4:37 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote: > Humpf! I think my opinion still counts. I may never use it, but I think Bank > of America probably will. Are they running SUSE Linux Enterprise Server? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Alan Ackerman
Humpf! I think my opinion still counts. I may never use it, but I think Bank of America probably will. Alan Ackerman alan.ackerma...@gmail.com On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Post wrote: On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote: > +1 OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 9:28 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote: > qclib, which was linked to earlier in the thread, offers all the info. Indeed, which is what I would have based anything I wrote on. -snip- > It seems like there's a use for most of the data provided by qc_test, > everybody > seems to find interest in

Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-18 22:12, Alan Ackerman wrote: > Yes! I spent a fair amount of time writing EXECs to figure these things out > when I worked for Bank of America. I put the results on a web page that > listed all our VM systems. I’m retired so I don’t need it any more. > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: VM system name

2020-07-21 Thread Tully, Phil (CORP)
f Stewart, Lee Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 5:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: VM system name [Actual Sender is owner-linux-...@vm.marist.edu] I wish I was a retiree. And +1 each from the other guys doing zLinux here... Lee Stewa

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Stewart, Lee
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM system name On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote: > +1 OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help the business case). Anyone else? Mark Post -- For LINUX-

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Marcy Cortes
+2 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 12:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] VM system name On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote: > +1 OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool do

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Doug
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Stewart, Lee Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 5:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: VM system name [Actual Sender is owner-linux-...@vm.marist.edu] I wish I was a retiree. And +1 each from the other guys doing zLinux here

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Hamilton, Robert
Subject: [EXT] Re: VM system name [Actual Sender is owner-linux-...@vm.marist.edu] I wish I was a retiree. And +1 each from the other guys doing zLinux here... Lee Stewart ● VM System Support ● Visa ● Phone: 6(750)4601 - +1-303-389-4601 ● lstew...@visa.com -Original Message- From

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Stewart, Lee
+1 Lee Stewart ● VM System Support ● Visa ● Phone: 6(750)4601 - +1-303-389-4601 ● lstew...@visa.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 2:13 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM system name Yes! I spent a fair

Re: VM system name

2020-07-20 Thread Mark Post
On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote: > +1 OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help the business case). Anyone else? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: VM system name

2020-07-18 Thread Alan Ackerman
Yes! I spent a fair amount of time writing EXECs to figure these things out when I worked for Bank of America. I put the results on a web page that listed all our VM systems. I’m retired so I don’t need it any more. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Mark Post wrote: On

Re: VM system name

2020-07-18 Thread Mark Post
On 7/17/20 12:18 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Late to the game, but I would probably make a .service file that did > something like > > ExecStart= echo $(/sbin/vmcp q userid | awk '{print $3}') > /etc/vmsysname > > and then anything could look at the file. > > An LGR'd guest would be wrong, but I

Re: VM system name

2020-07-17 Thread Marcy Cortes
Late to the game, but I would probably make a .service file that did something like ExecStart= echo $(/sbin/vmcp q userid | awk '{print $3}') > /etc/vmsysname and then anything could look at the file. An LGR'd guest would be wrong, but I don't think you use that. Marcy

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/08/2020 at 04:47 GMT, Ronald van der Laan wrote: > STore HYpervisor Information returns system name and ssi name of the top 3 > levels of hypervisors. Indeed, but arch/s390/kernel/sysinfo.c doesn't use it. That's where the information you see in /proc/sysinfo comes from.

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Tully, Phil (CORP)
y Software Inc. Main: (650) 964-8867 Main: (877) 964-8867 r...@velocitysoftware.com <mailto:r...@velocitysoftware.com> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Tully, Phil (CORP) wrote: > > Rich, > That is the virtual machine name, not the VM system name.

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Tully, Phil (CORP)
Rich, That is the virtual machine name, not the VM system name. Regards, Phil Tully Chief Architect-z/VM & z/Linux phil.tu...@adp.com cell: 973-202-7427 1-800 377-0237,,5252697# On 7/8/20, 12:16 PM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Rich Smrcina" wrote: WARNING: Do n

VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Tully, Phil (CORP)
When I look at /proc/sysinfo, I can see the LPAR name but I don’t see the VM system name. Is there a place that the VM system name would be shown from linux? LPAR Number: 2 LPAR Characteristics: Shared LPAR Name:PLB2 LPAR Adjustment: 390 LPAR CPUs Total: 32 LPAR

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Rogério Soares
00 Name. >> >> Rich Smrcina >> Sr. Systems Engineer >> >> Velocity Software Inc. >> Main: (650) 964-8867 >> Main: (877) 964-8867 >> r...@velocitysoftware.com <mailto:r...@velocitysoftware.com> >> >> >> > On Jul 8, 2020, at

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Rogério Soares
When I look at /proc/sysinfo, I can see the LPAR name but I don’t see > the VM system name. Is there a place that the VM system name would be > shown from linux? > > > > LPAR Number: 2 > > LPAR Characteristics: Shared > > LPAR Name:PLB2 > > L

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Ronald van der Laan
R name but I don’t see > the VM > > system name. Is there a place that the VM system name would be shown > from > > linux? > > > > LPAR Number: 2 > > LPAR Characteristics: Shared > > LPAR Name:PLB2 > > LPAR Adjustment: 390 &

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/08/2020 at 04:12 GMT, "Tully, Phil (CORP)" wrote: > When I look at /proc/sysinfo, I can see the LPAR name but I don’t see the VM > system name. Is there a place that the VM system name would be shown from > linux? > > LPAR Number: 2 >

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
lto:r...@velocitysoftware.com> > <mailto:r...@velocitysoftware.com <mailto:r...@velocitysoftware.com>> > > >> On Jul 8, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Tully, Phil (CORP) wrote: >> >> When I look at /proc/sysinfo, I can see the LPAR name but I don’t

Re: VM system name

2020-07-08 Thread Rich Smrcina
LPAR name but I don’t see the VM > system name. Is there a place that the VM system name would be shown from > linux? > > LPAR Number: 2 > LPAR Characteristics: Shared > LPAR Name:PLB2 > LPAR Adjustment: 390 > LPAR CPUs Total: 32 > LP