Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Per Jessen
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:16:10 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote: sweet is suss; sweets (as in candies) is Susse. (No, I don't know how to enter an ess-tsett, but one should go in place of the two ses if you're being pedantic.) Wonder how much that influenced the choice of acronym... Not a lot would be my

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The problems with the umlauts is: they don't appear correctly in most mail clients, so in Germany we often use (in mails etc.): ue for u umlaut oe for o umlaut ae for a umlaut ss for ess-tset But my kmail client supports the umlauts, but they are different to Phil's. ae = d, oe = v, ue = |,

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/06/2003 at 07:27 ZE8, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linus bases the pronunciation of Linux on the way he says Linus, but we pronounce Linus quite differently. You know, I couldn't care less whether someone says LEE-nooks, LEE-nucks, LIN-ooks, or LIN-uks, but I do

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I think it is an abbreviation, and AFAIK, it's the abbreviation of something like System- und Software-Entwicklung (see the litte u), which is german for system and software development. Not very special. But I'm not absolutely sure. I checked the SuSe web site, but didn't find an explanation.

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Well, not quite. The Rechtschreibreform threw away some strange rules, but the sz still exists (not in Switzerland, but in Germany and Austria). If the vowel before the sz is long, the sz remains, otherwise the Rechtschreibreform changed this to double s. Regards, Bernd Am Mit, 06 Aug 2003

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-14 Thread Jay Maynard
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:27:11AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Linus bases the pronunciation of Linux on the way he says Linus, but we pronounce Linus quite differently. To misquote Tonto: What's this 'we' stuff, white man? I try to pronounce Linux the same way Linus does. Being a Texan,

pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread john gilmore
Serendipitously, I have two visiting Swedes at hand. Confronted separately with 'SuSE' written on a scrap of paper, they both said TSOO-seh with the accent, not a strong one, on the first syllable. I suspect, however, that anglophones, Germans, and Swedes are going to continue to pronounce it a

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Phil Payne
I suspect, however, that anglophones, Germans, and Swedes are going to continue to pronounce it a bit differently. The precedents are bad. Agreement about how to promnounce names and acronyms is hard to come by. After many decades Brits pronounce 'CICS' as 'kicks', Americans say

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
like SONY did it :-) Am Mit, 06 Aug 2003 schrieben Sie: Perhaps they could be persuaded to change their name to something whose pronunciation we all agree on! Bob Matthews University of Geneva.

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-14 Thread Gregg C Levine
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Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Phil Payne
sweet is suss; sweets (as in candies) is Susse. (No, I don't know how to enter an ess-tsett, but one should go in place of the two ses if you're being pedantic.) Wonder how much that influenced the choice of acronym... Not a lot would be my guess. The 'u' in 'suss' has an umlaut, making it a

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Elliott
OK. I am at LinuxWorld Expo in beautiful, sunny, warm San Francisco. SuSE has a large booth here (and is also in IBM's and a lot of other booths). I will ask the SuSE team tomorrow how they pronounce SuSE! Regards, Jim

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread David Boyes
, 2003 3:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pronunciation of SuSE Perhaps they could be persuaded to change their name to something whose pronunciation we all agree on! Bob Matthews University of Geneva.

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-14 Thread Rod Furey
Perhaps they could be persuaded to change their name to something whose pronunciation we all agree on! Bob Matthews University of Geneva. Cough cough - altogether now: You say potato, I say potato, You say tomato, I say tomato, Potato, potato, Tomato, tomato, Let's call the whole thing off...

OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Wicks
In a recent post there was the statement; ... SuSE (pronounced SOOS-ah) ... I was told that it was SOO-say. Could someone from SuSE or any .de give a definitive and authoritative correct pronunciation? Thanks, Dennis -- Dennis G. Wicks Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Per Jessen wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:27:11 +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Could someone from SuSE or any .de give a definitive and authoritative correct pronunciation? Must we all pronounce it with a German accent? Not necessarily with an accent. Do the french

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-11 Thread Phil Payne
I mentioned this to my roommate, and he pointed out that the German word for sweet is suss; sweets (as in candies) is Susse. More likely S|ssigkeiten. Though I still tend to write S|_igkeiten. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803 +49 173 6242039

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-09 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:55:58PM -0400, Jim Elliott wrote: OK. I am at LinuxWorld Expo in beautiful, sunny, warm San Francisco. SuSE has a large booth here (and is also in IBM's and a lot of other booths). I will ask the SuSE team tomorrow how they pronounce SuSE! I mentioned this to my

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 08/06/2003 at 07:27 ZE8, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linus bases the pronunciation of Linux on the way he says Linus, but we pronounce Linus quite differently. You know, I couldn't care less whether someone says

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-08 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
If not some other person pointed it out in the meantime: there is a strong difference in german between u and u umlaut, so SuSE does not sound like suess (written normally with u umlaut and sz). So this did not influence the acronym, in my opinion. Also, sweets is Suessigkeiten. Regards, Bernd

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: The problems with the umlauts is: they don't appear correctly in most mail clients, so in Germany we often use (in mails etc.): ue for u umlaut oe for o umlaut ae for a umlaut ss for ess-tset But my kmail client supports the umlauts, but they are

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-07 Thread Robert Matthews
Perhaps they could be persuaded to change their name to something whose pronunciation we all agree on! Bob Matthews University of Geneva.

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-06 Thread Sal Torres/SBC Inc.
*** Reply to note of Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:23:22 -0500 (EST/CDT) *** by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucius, Leland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what does SuSE mean? Anyting? How do the SuSErians pronounce it? Leland SuSE was established as Gesellschaft fõr Software-und Systementwicklung mbH, and later

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-06 Thread Per Jessen
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:27:11 +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Could someone from SuSE or any .de give a definitive and authoritative correct pronunciation? Must we all pronounce it with a German accent? Not necessarily with an accent. Do the french pronounce Paris the way the Greeks do/did? Do

Re: OT - Correct pronunciation od SuSE?

2003-08-05 Thread Jim Elliott
In a recent post there was the statement; ... SuSE (pronounced SOOS-ah) ... I was told that it was SOO-say. Everyone I know at SuSE pronounces it SOOS-AH. Even at HQ over in Nuremberg. Regards, Jim

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
So what does SuSE mean? Anyting? How do the SuSErians pronounce it? Leland

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
SuSE was established as Gesellschaft fõr Software-und Systementwicklung mbH, and later changed to Software und System Entwicklung (Software and System Development), providing the manageable German acronym by which users now know and love the distribution. Cool. Thx. Was always

Re: pronunciation of SuSE

2003-08-05 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Hello, I'm native german. It's difficult for me to explain to english speaking people my pronounciation of SuSE in written english, but I give it a try: the U as in smooth and the E as in eleanor (rigby) :-) the S is NOT pronounced ts, never, but C is sometimes pronounced like ts, see below. Z