On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi,
I think this issue have been debated before - but I also think it's a much
better time now to discuss it..
We're Israelies, most of us use Linux as their primary OS - and almost all of
the mailers supports hebrew - one way or the other..
*
On Fri, May 17, 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what are the reasons for not switching our official language here from
English to Hebrew (not in a day, but rather in a month-2
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* mutt
Works well with Hebrew if you use an appropriate editor (such as vim)
and a viewer (such as bidiv).
Note that editing Hebrew with Vim is a bit different than using a bidi
editor, since you have to manually switch direction
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi,
I think this issue have been debated before - but I also think it's a much
better time now to discuss it..
We're Israelies, most of us use Linux as their primary OS - and almost all of
the mailers supports hebrew - one way or the other..
*
On 17 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* mutt
Works well with Hebrew if you use an appropriate editor (such as vim)
and a viewer (such as bidiv).
Note that editing Hebrew with Vim is a bit different than using a bidi
editor,
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi people,
I don't know if Dvir has written about it - but Nana got a special Linux forum
- you can go there with this URL: http://forums.nana.co.il/forum.asp?id=2092
What browsers is it tested with?
Is anybody able to read/post from linux to:
*
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Isaac Aaron wrote:
Hi
I'd like to install glibc 2.2 from an RPM using rpm -i --force.
Reason: to be able to install software pre-compiled for RH7.X (where glibc
is the only dep that doesn't match).
Does anyone know what (bad) implications might be?
using --force is a
Nadav Har'El wrote:
How about creating a Hebrew mailing list in addition to this one, and
see how it picks up?
Even though I hardly write anything in Hebrew and it would be more
difficult for me to read in Hebrew than in English I think it would be
extreamly importan for the Open Source
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi people,
I don't know if Dvir has written about it - but Nana got a special
Linux forum - you can go there with this URL:
http://forums.nana.co.il/forum.asp?id=2092
What browsers is it tested with?
Is anybody able to read/post from linux to:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3. I suggest to start with the gnubies list, and see how it goes there.
Alternatively, maybe setup a seperate list (r sublist? des listar
support this notion?)
Oh, yeah, good idea. Before you can read the list archives,
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What pager and editor do you use, then?
nvi and less.
In what environment do you normally work? (X/remote shell/console? x: what
desktop? remote shell: what termianl?)
X: my own wm (http://wm.zadka.com), with plain xterm
Console:
I don't think its a technical issue, more like a cultural issue. I am not certain that
all the list
members can read Hebrew, so switching to Hebrew, or allowing for Hebrew words into
mails,
will only frustrate those members.
The difficulty in expressing yourself in Hebrew,
is one of these main
What browsers is it tested with?
I tested Mozilla 1.0RC2 and Konqueror from KDE 3 CVS - both works pretty well
with Nana. Ynet and tapuz works for me, and I think Walla guides.co.il too
- but I haven't tested them
Can anybody comment on the relevancy of those forums? e.g: is any f them a
(I didn't get the first email..)
On Friday 17 May 2002 09:34, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Isaac Aaron wrote:
Hi
I'd like to install glibc 2.2 from an RPM using rpm -i --force.
Reason: to be able to install software pre-compiled for RH7.X (where
glibc is the only dep that
Which of them require registration for posting (something that
personally
annoys me)
Nana does
allow me to correct you, we DO NOT REQUIRE REGISTRATION in order to post
on Nana (we used to, but not since last month).
all you have to do is agree to a disclaimer (stating you won't
Isaac Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd like to install glibc 2.2 from an RPM using rpm -i --force.
Reason: to be able to install software pre-compiled for RH7.X (where glibc is
the only dep that doesn't match).
Does anyone know what (bad) implications might be?
It does not sound like
Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We're Israelies, most of us use Linux as their primary OS - and
almost all of the mailers supports hebrew - one way or the other..
a very short list of mailers snipped
The list is a lng way from being exhaustive, and I don't think
it's a good idea
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 01:37:28PM +0200, Dvir Volk wrote:
[big snip]
It's generally considered rude to send Outlook specific files (winmail.dat)
to a Linux list, or almost any other public mailing list, especially when
its ~5 times larger than the actual message.
Perhaps listar should be
You must remember this is an israeli linux group.
I think we must use or at least try to use Hebrew.
For technical terms we can use English or even better, define those terms in
Hebrew, this will be part of the linux localization process.
I'm sure that for many members, it will be more
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
On Friday 17 May 2002 05:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi,
I think this issue have been debated before - but I also think it's a much
better time now to discuss it..
We're Israelies, most of us use Linux as their primary OS - and almost all
of the mailers supports hebrew - one way
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Amir Hardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must remember this is an israeli linux group.
So what?
I think we must use or at least try to use Hebrew.
Why?
For technical terms we can use English or even better, define those terms in
Hebrew, this will be part of the
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
Great.
This is the only benefit of discussions like that -- people jumping
the gun and sending e-mail lots of people can't read. Get a clue,
currently, sending Hebrew e-mail to Linux-IL is discouraged.
.
Marc,
As you may know - I do not own Nana. I published Nana's new Linux forum, as a
one time notification for people that if they want to come and help with
answering the people - then thats nice...
Take care,
Hetz
Why the fuck are you advertising YOUR forum on the list?
Not nice...
M
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
* Pine - hpine exists for quite a long time and you can use it to read/write
hebrew..
I use the pine that is present on the Technion servers. AFAIK, neither t2
nor vipe carry hebpine. In any case, I'm
moshe:
the big question is how many people could not read that sentence. if the
answer is most, then linux-il is not hebrew ready. btw it is utf8.
- diego
On Friday 17 May 2002 16:05, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
Great.
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 04:32:37PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
moshe:
the big question is how many people could not read that sentence. if the
answer is most, then linux-il is not hebrew ready. btw it is utf8.
Diego:
The big question, is how many of the people who actually contribute to
hi all
I just wanted to let everybody know that the kde project has now opened a new
mailing list: [kde-klingon]. well not actually kde, since it's not officially
recognized, but anyway... it should be interesting for all
trackies/trackers...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- diego
--
Get hold of
On Fri, May 17, 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL
mailing lists?:
FWIW, I immediately delete hebrew postings. If it's important enough
to be said, it's important enough to be said in english.
If he knew of this thread, Eli'ezer Ben-Yehuda (are you a relative
Hello !
I'm trying to install glibc-2.2.2 on an LFS partition (/mnt/lfs),
the error I get is:
error
findlocale.c: In function `_nl_find_locale':
findlocale.c:193: Internal compiler error in gen_lowpart, at emit-rtl.c:1081
Please submit a full bug report.
See
I can't read hebrew with my mail client
can someone translate ?
erez.
Diego Iastrubni wrote:
éàììä ÷ãéîä!!
On Friday 17 May 2002 05:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Hi,
I think this issue have been debated before - but I also think it's a much
better time now to discuss it..
We're
On Friday 17 May 2002 17:43, Amir Sela wrote:
One point should be taken to mind though : It's my experience, and I'm
sure a lot of you will agree, that people that prefer posting in
hebrew are usually newbies. And as such, they don't belong in this
list simply because of the nature of the
I think the hebrew subject is more gnubies-il specific.
Why won't we offer it to them ?
Just an idea,
Eliran.
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 05:43:43PM +0300, Amir Sela wrote:
Anyway, to make myself clear: I'll vote for an additional Hebrew
list, but for keeping also the existing English list.
This is the perfect solution to the language problem of the Linux-IL
mailing list!
Let's mandate that starting from May 23th, 2002, time 20:30:40, all E-mail
going via the Linux-IL mailing list must be written in Klingon, using
Canaanite (old Hebrew) letters.
:-)
sounds good ;-)
what encoding is knaanite ?
where could i get such fonts ?
eli, do you have knaanite ttf-fonts ?
where do i get a klingon spell checker ?
erez.
On Friday 17 May 2002 18:25, Omer Zak wrote:
This is the perfect solution to the language problem of the Linux-IL
mailing list!
I don't believe that the Hebrew language is connected to being a newbie or not.
I do believe however that it is connected to the size of some individuals ego.
I believe nadav mentioned that until recently the technion made them use Hebrew in
their
thesis. Do you actually clame that these people
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
4. I hope that the archive will supprt on-the-fly conversin of the
messages to UTF-8. When I search the messages archive I don't want to
care what was theoriginal charset.
I believe that in Russian the problem of encoding is even more severe
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Erez Doron wrote:
sounds good ;-)
what encoding is knaanite ?
where could i get such fonts ?
eli, do you have knaanite ttf-fonts ?
where do i get a klingon spell checker ?
Klingon is not traditionally written in the Kanaanite Alphabet. So even if
you find one,
On Friday 17 May 2002 19:50, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
I don't believe that the Hebrew language is connected to being a
newbie or not. I do believe however that it is connected to the
size of some individuals ego. I believe nadav mentioned that until
recently the technion made them use Hebrew in
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the big question is how many people could not read that sentence. if the
answer is most, then linux-il is not hebrew ready. btw it is utf8.
No, the big question is why you thought it was a good idea to
disregard the official
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If he knew of this thread, Eli'ezer Ben-Yehuda (are you a relative of his? :))
would be turning in his grave :(
Yes. Because Eli'ezer didn't whine. He went out there and wrote patches.
I'm hope I'm not wasting my breath here, but
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Orna Agmon wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
* Pine - hpine exists for quite a long time and you can use it to read/write
hebrew..
I use the pine that is present on the Technion servers. AFAIK, neither
well, the issue is not if i can apply the turkish patch or not, etc ...
for example: i have linux installed on my ipaq. i can not use kde nor
mozilla on my ipaq ( not enough mem, not enough flash, screen too small)
and the only mail client i have support only ... surprise: english
and there are
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:05, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
So what are the reasons for not switching our official language here from
English to Hebrew (not in a day, but rather in a month-2 months time
period)? Please reply and explain your position...
I have a simple suggestion:
This email list
-Original Message-
From: Amir Sela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Linux-IL Mailing List
Subject: Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?
On Friday 17 May 2002 19:50, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
I don't believe that the
On 17 May 2002, Erez Doron wrote:
well, the issue is not if i can apply the turkish patch or not, etc ...
for example: i have linux installed on my ipaq. i can not use kde nor
mozilla on my ipaq ( not enough mem, not enough flash, screen too small)
and the only mail client i have support
On the same wave length, maybe we should instead open a web forum with
this list name. this way, everyone will be able to see the encoding,
and the list itself won't be changed. In addition, we can add to the
mailing list signature (which is at the end of each email on these
mailing list) the
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
On the same wave length, maybe we should instead open a web forum with
this list name. this way, everyone will be able to see the encoding,
and the list itself won't be changed. In addition, we can add to the
mailing list signature (which is at the
Eliran,
First of all I'm a member of the lfs-support list and haven't seen you message
there... are you sure it was sent?
Almost always the guys in the lfs-support list know's how to help, and won't
stop trying until you solved your problem.
So maybe re send a message to there...
I instaled my
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Gilad Ben-Yossef; Linux-IL mailing list
Subject: RE: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?
On Fri, 17 May 2002,
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
The big question, is how many of the people who actually contribute to
the list could not and would not read the above sentance. As it
appears that the answer is most of them!, please refrain from
posting hebrew.
FWIW, I immediately delete hebrew
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hebrew fonts:
Generally avaialble anywhere:
But the xterms must be specifically configured. For example, because
my window manager is hard-wired to start an xterm 80x25 on left-button
click, this means I'll have to reconfigure it.
On 17 May 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hebrew fonts:
Generally avaialble anywhere:
But the xterms must be specifically configured. For example, because
my window manager is hard-wired to start an xterm 80x25 on left-button
I think you should cool it as well, and if you don't want to converse
with me, i suggest you simply don't reply to my posts. A mailing list
is STILL composed out of personal postings, which people reply to. So
if you reply to my words, you reply to me. And whatever you say,
bringing in jewish
Hi,
I have detailed replies for some of your whines, but those trees might
hide the forest:
There is absolutely no sense in having a local list not in Hebrew. If
you suggest to any Linux user group in Japan, Sweden, Germany, or any
other non-english-speaking language that the main mailing list
On Fri, May 17, 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote about Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing
lists?:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If he knew of this thread, Eli'ezer Ben-Yehuda (are you a relative of his? :))
would be turning in his grave :(
Yes. Because Eli'ezer
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