[OT] shell account recommendations

2004-02-22 Thread Boris Gorelik
[Sorry for being offtopic] Hi, Recently my ISP (HUJI) has blocked the connection to IRC ports. When I talked to the guys in the computation authority, I was told that this was done because of security and bandwidth reasons. I tried to talk about academic freedom etc, but with no success. Then I

Re: [OT] shell account recommendations

2004-02-22 Thread Gal Gur-Arie
try: http://freeshell.org Boris Gorelik wrote: [Sorry for being offtopic] Hi, Recently my ISP (HUJI) has blocked the connection to IRC ports. When I talked to the guys in the computation authority, I was told that this was done because of security and bandwidth reasons. I tried to talk about

Re: [OT] shell account recommendations

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Yup. That's what I was going to suggest too. I've just signed up for a lifetime account there. (40$). Gal Gur-Arie wrote: try: http://freeshell.org Boris Gorelik wrote: [Sorry for being offtopic] Hi, Recently my ISP (HUJI) has blocked the connection to IRC ports. When I talked to the guys in

Bogofilter instead of SpamAssasin?

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
I've just heard about BogoFilter and see that people on that other forum think it's better than SpamAssasin (based on their personal experience). http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Has anyone here tried it or know of comparisons between it and other anti-spam software? --Amos

Re: Bogofilter instead of SpamAssasin?

2004-02-22 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:58:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just heard about BogoFilter and see that people on that other forum think it's better than SpamAssasin (based on their personal experience). http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Has anyone here tried it or know of

Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Hi, My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did a fraction of the requirements. A club member who knows MS stuff valunteered to write it in VB+ASP+Access. Their argument for Access is that we

Zope as a wiki system

2004-02-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi friends and all, We are looking for a good Wiki type solution for hamakor's web site. Being the reknown paranoid I am, I'm looking for a well known solution, prefereably one that I can just apt-get install. For reasons I would rather not go into at the moment, if it has to use a database

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Omer Zak
My argument against MS software: They force you to upgrade to more recent versions of their environment. When you upgrade, it is not only money but you have also to update your software because they don't maintain backward compatibility. And they force you to upgrade when you hit a security

Re: Bogofilter instead of SpamAssasin?

2004-02-22 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 02:58:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just heard about BogoFilter and see that people on that other forum think it's better than SpamAssasin (based on their personal experience). http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Has anyone here tried it or know of

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Alon Weinstein
How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free, and at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem. Access has no advantages over mysql in this kind of setup, and mysql by far surpasses Access as a

RE: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Uzi Refaeli
From the positive side (not against VB+ASP+Access but for LAMP) you might find his interesting: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7131 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Alon Weinstein wrote: How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free, and at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem. Access has no advantages over mysql in this kind of setup, and mysql by far

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Omer Zak wrote: My argument against MS software: They force you to upgrade to more recent versions of their environment. [ rest of the argument deleted for bravity ] I'm aware that such things happened sometimes in the past, but do you have concrete refferences I can show them? Without these

Good pro-open-source advocacy page

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
I've hit references to the following link a few times while googling for pro-open-source advocacy: http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html Looks like a well maintained and very thorough comparison of Open Source vs. proprietary solutions... --Amos

Re: Bogofilter instead of SpamAssasin?

2004-02-22 Thread Oded Arbel
22 2004, 14:58,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just heard about BogoFilter and see that people on that other forum think it's better than SpamAssasin (based on their personal experience). http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Has anyone here tried it or know of comparisons between it and other

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alon Weinstein wrote: How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free, and at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem. Access has no advantages over mysql in this kind

Re: Good pro-open-source advocacy page

2004-02-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've hit references to the following link a few times while googling for pro-open-source advocacy: http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html Looks like a well maintained and very thorough comparison of Open Source vs. proprietary solutions... --Amos Havn't read the up to

Re: Zope as a wiki system

2004-02-22 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: We are looking for a good Wiki type solution for hamakor's web site. Being the reknown paranoid I am, I'm looking for a well known solution, prefereably one that I can just apt-get install. For reasons I would rather not go into at the moment, if

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Alon Weinstein
Unfortunetly, at the moment Postgres only has a cygwin version for Windows. There is no native Win32 version at this stage. Also, due to name folding differences, you may find that some tweaking of the SQL statements is required. I have started a project in the past to allow easy translation

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did a fraction of the requirements. A club member who knows MS stuff valunteered to write it in

Modem Problem

2004-02-22 Thread Daniel Feiglin
I have SuSE 9.0 installed on an all-PCI system (no ISA slot) with an Intel 536ep modem. 1. Under Windows 2K it works fine. 2. Under SuSE 8.1 it worked fine with the supplied driver. 3. Under SuSE 9.0 the supplied driver fails to detect the carrier. Closer examination (depmod -a) reveals that

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Gil Freund
OK, some real world examples: 1. A a data entry system Designed on Access 97. 3 users, data was never to exceed 1GB. Was done by a rather competent programmer. a. Performance over the network for data over 150MB was extremely slow, even when the data and application files were split and the

Kinneret mirror on Hamakor temporarily unavailable

2004-02-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi, Due to sudden and unexpected bandwidth utilization, we were forced to make the Kinneret mirror on mirror.hamakor.org.il unavailable. We are sorry for this move, but as we are getting the bandwidth as a donation from Actcom, they are entitled to stop us from taking almost all of their IIX

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did a fraction of the requirements. Not exactly what you asked for, but thought I'll mention

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Gil Freund wrote: OK, some real world examples: [examples deleted] My conclusions: Access is underpowered as multi user DBMS. Access is overpowered for single user data management (unless the users knows his/her way around an RDBMS). To take make any use of Access you need a really good VB

Re: Modem Problem

2004-02-22 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 22 February 2004 19:19, Daniel Feiglin wrote: 4. These two modules are NOT open source. If it's not source it's not software (www.gnu.org) 3. I have never used an external modem under Linux. Does anyone have any thoughts on what goes and what does not for external modems? Any

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did a fraction of the requirements. Not exactly what you asked for, but

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Gil Freund
Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [deleted] To help clarify your club members the upgrade cost of MS, you may want to demonstrate the *true* cost of the Magic solution -- having an abandoned software that cannot be maintained any longer. The MS

Re: Kinneret mirror on Hamakor temporarily unavailable

2004-02-22 Thread hamakor
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi, Due to sudden and unexpected bandwidth utilization, we were forced to make the Kinneret mirror on mirror.hamakor.org.il unavailable. We are Is this related to the item in Maariv? Is there some provision put in place to point people to alternative sources for Kinneret?

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 22 February 2004 23:01, Gil Freund wrote: Actually, this is not a good example. Magic was delivered in two flavors - developer and run time. In order to modify the code of the application you needed the developer version, as well the developer. I have used Magic for many tasks back

Re: Kinneret mirror on Hamakor temporarily unavailable

2004-02-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi, Due to sudden and unexpected bandwidth utilization, we were forced to make the Kinneret mirror on mirror.hamakor.org.il unavailable. We are Is this related to the item in Maariv? Probably yes. I'm not sure what that is. Is it online? Can

Re: Zope as a wiki system

2004-02-22 Thread Yishay Mor
Zope has too Wiki options: 1. ZWiki, which is a wiki clone, and quite an annoying one IMHO. 2. Plone (http://plone.org), which is much more than a wiki - more like an open CMS: you can install products over it, or script it in Python. We use Plone with great satisfaction and extensive

Re: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access

2004-02-22 Thread linux-il
Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday 22 February 2004 23:01, Gil Freund wrote: Actually, this is not a good example. Magic was delivered in two flavors - developer and run time. In order to modify the code of the application you needed the developer version, as well the developer. I have used