Dear list members,
We are looking for a webmail application that has good support in Hebrew
messages (encoding and ltr/rtl).
So far, it seems to me that roundcube-webmail is the best candidate, but also
considering:
Open WebMail
IMP
SquirrelMail
roundcube
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Dave
--
Hi Dave,
Some features that would be nice to have are FCC for both incomming and
outgoing messages, like al/pine has, and the ability to compose plain text
messages without using HTML.
Regards,
- yba
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Dave Stav wrote:
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:08:30 +0300
From: Dave
Google Applications. It's free and it's great
Don't even think about hosting your own Webmail -
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Dave Stav d...@tkos.co.il wrote:
Dear list members,
We are looking for a webmail application that has good support in Hebrew
messages (encoding and ltr/rtl).
2009/8/18 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com:
Little note ,
The extra charge (from bezeq) in 02 is for some special numbers (the one
that are in PalTel region and Jawal).
So you think you call a 02 (Isrealy phone number in Jerusalem area ) but
actually call Rammala.
That makes sense, as
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:09:21 +0300
From: Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il
To: Dave Stav d...@tkos.co.il
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Suggestion for a webmail application with good Hebrew Support
Google Applications. It's free and
Yonatan
what you're saying is that you are capable of managing security better than
google.
that is highly arguable.
Our own experience is that we ran qmail/squirrel qmail/clamAV/Spam Assassin
for 5 years thru 2007. In 2007 - the amount of administration and image
spam made the entire exercise
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:41:38 +0300
From: Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il
To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il
Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Suggestion for a webmail application with good Hebrew Support
Yonatan
what you're
good for you. I disagree with the Google security statement and since my
cost is zero for spam free content and always up mail services for 4
business units I would say that zero is always more cost-effective than your
own time.
I can't argue the security point with you because there are always
Hi people,
I'm trying to download some stuff with a small script, and I'm using lftp
Can someone give a simple example (using lftp and -c) to access web
site with user/pass through script?
example: http://domain.com/test/private/ with username: XX and pass: YY
It seems this is one of the cases
On Tuesday 18 August 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:
Google Applications. It's free and it's great
Don't even think about hosting your own Webmail -
Don't forget that Google is a public company and will do whatever is in the
best interest of its stock holders, regardless of your interest as
Danny Lieberman wrote:
You feel more secure DIY (and are probably factually less secure)
I feel more secure with Google Apps (and are probably factually more
secure)
I like the way you give your opinion, and then back it up by your
opinion of how things are. People don't leave space for the
On Aug 18, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Your claimed price of zero disregards certain costs. For example,
you do not count the cost in loss of privacy and the cost of having
your emails available for parties to summon from Google using the
court system without your knowledge.
Hi,
It seems someone sent a spam cop about linux-il because of that
accidental facebook invitation.
Few notes about that:
- If you want to complain about someone make sure you get the address
right, and not complain about the mailing list, if you think that the
mailing list is a spammer you are
Danny Lieberman wrote:
Shachar, Geoff
b) the threat probability of one of our operations getting a US court
injunction is so low that I don't even bother with security
countermeasures. OTOH - the threat of dos/web defacing/site
downtime/poor response time is high enough that we considered
Hi all,
Here's the new Linux Productivity Magazine article, themed Desktop Linux
that Just Works. This is the culmination of my effort to find a really good
desktop Linux setup that doesn't require the user to pass a political litmus
test.
http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200908/200908.htm
Shachar
You see - that as soon as we start talking about money, the risk assessment
discussion gets more serious.
1. Google Apps Premium is $50/user/year ( higher volume/more demanding
service levels).
Google Apps Standard is free - we use it for our community involvement
sites like
Danny Lieberman wrote:
3. Use a 10kg hammer.
We have clients that insist on physical destruction of the data disk
after a network surveillance.
Do you, at least, FIRST run the dd? I'm sure you realize that recovering
data from a disk that got only the 10KG hammer is much easier (and
yes - dd + hammer.
true story - we did a security audit for a h-tech client who conveniently
put all their decommissioned disks in a barrel in the yard of the factory.
:-)
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote:
Danny Lieberman wrote:
3. Use a 10kg
Note that if you're going to dd, at least use if=/dev/urandom. Running dd
several (10) times is best (or using shred(1), which does the same).
Rony
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From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On
Behalf Of Shachar Shemesh
Sent: Tuesday, August 18,
ronys wrote:
Note that if you're going to dd, at least use if=/dev/urandom. Running
dd several (10) times is best (or using shred(1), which does the same).
Rony
I am familiar with the urban legend. From what I read about the
technique by which you reconstruct older generation data, I'm not
rony
good point.shred with strings of zeroes is probably even better than
erasing.
d
2009/8/18 ronys ro...@gmx.net
Note that if you're going to dd, at least use if=/dev/urandom. Running dd
several (10) times is best (or using shred(1), which does the same).
Rony
2009/8/18 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il:
d) We deploy security countermeasures to protect assets:
0) We don't use Google docs, Never.
1) None of our really sensitive assets are on Google Apps and that includes
Calendar and Mail
So what's left from your use of Google?
BTW - do you
Hi Shachar,
'urban legend' may be a bit strong. The reference I had in mind was
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
which is a bit dated (circa 1996, plus a couple of undated epilogues), but
still an interesting read.
Of course, if you're going to keep sensitive data on
Amos Shapira wrote:
2009/8/18 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il:
d) We deploy security countermeasures to protect assets:
0) We don't use Google docs, Never.
1) None of our really sensitive assets are on Google Apps and that includes
Calendar and Mail
So what's left from your use
Shachar
On the Internet - size is not an indication of threat surface. Ability to
provision and maintain is more important.
You have to engineer your solution to your needs.
For us - the combination of Google Apps, slicehost (for smaller projects) /
rackspace (for big projects) rocks.
Google
ronys wrote:
Hi Shachar,
'urban legend' may be a bit strong. The reference I had in mind was
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/%7Epgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
which is a bit dated (circa 1996, plus a couple of undated epilogues),
but
2009/8/18 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il
Shachar
On the Internet - size is not an indication of threat surface. Ability to
provision and maintain is more important.
You have to engineer your solution to your needs.
For us - the combination of Google Apps, slicehost (for smaller
Mike
Allow me to give you a cold dose of reality
A. Internal email is never 'confidential'.
1. As long as you have Web access, mobile devices and USB sticks - you may
assume that everything an employee has access to in the company can and will
be sent to people outside the company. This is not
Danny Lieberman wrote:
Mike
To set the record straight - my comment about preferring Google Apps
mail/calendar related to a fairly innocent question by Yonatan
regarding the allternatives to Squirell Mail etc for Hebrew support.
Then lets, do, return to the original question.
Does gmail
2009/8/19 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz
Danny Lieberman wrote:
Mike
To set the record straight - my comment about preferring Google Apps
mail/calendar related to a fairly innocent question by Yonatan regarding the
allternatives to Squirell Mail etc for Hebrew support.
Then lets,
2009/8/19 Danny Lieberman dan...@software.co.il
I don't sell Google Apps but I suggest reading their story at
http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/details.html
To ask my question again - if you say that you use Google Apps but not
Google Docs or GMail or Calendar - so what's left in
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