Oded Arbel wrote:
Will you tell us what the final decision was (when it taked place), please ?
just the usual curiosity :-)
Well, yesterday was the meeting. It turns out that we are still in the
design stage - what
sort of data should the application have and how will it help its
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 09:12:35PM +0200, guy keren wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
Micha Feigin wrote:
Actually if they are willing to put up money for the
development/running environment (whatever licences are required) you
can try and push an option to pay the volunteer part of this money to
do it on an open environment. This way everybody wins.
That's one of the open
Hi,
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
A club member who knows MS stuff valunteered to write it in VB+ASP+Access.
Their argument for Access is that we
My argument against MS software:
They force you to upgrade to more recent versions of their environment.
When you upgrade, it is not only money but you have also to update your
software because they don't maintain backward compatibility.
And they force you to upgrade when you hit a security
How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using
mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free, and
at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem. Access has
no advantages over mysql in this kind of setup, and mysql by far
surpasses Access as a
: Need help - arguments for Why not VB+ASP+Access
Hi,
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after
years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could
update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
A club member who knows MS stuff valunteered
Alon Weinstein wrote:
How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using
mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free,
and at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem. Access
has no advantages over mysql in this kind of setup, and mysql by far
Omer Zak wrote:
My argument against MS software:
They force you to upgrade to more recent versions of their environment.
[ rest of the argument deleted for bravity ]
I'm aware that such things happened sometimes in the past, but do
you have concrete refferences I can show them? Without these
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alon Weinstein wrote:
How about meeting them half-way -- first thing to suggest using
mysql/postgresql as the database instead of access -- they're free,
and at least I know mysql can run on Windows without a problem.
Access has no advantages over mysql in this kind
Unfortunetly, at the moment Postgres only has a cygwin version for
Windows. There is no native Win32 version at this stage. Also, due to
name folding differences, you may find that some tweaking of the SQL
statements is required. I have started a project in the past to allow
easy translation
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
A club member who knows MS stuff valunteered to write it in
OK, some real world examples:
1. A a data entry system
Designed on Access 97. 3 users, data was never to exceed 1GB. Was done
by a rather competent programmer.
a. Performance over the network for data over 150MB was extremely slow,
even when the data and application files were split and the
On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
Not exactly what you asked for, but thought I'll mention
Gil Freund wrote:
OK, some real world examples:
[examples deleted]
My conclusions:
Access is underpowered as multi user DBMS.
Access is overpowered for single user data management (unless the users
knows his/her way around an RDBMS).
To take make any use of Access you need a really good VB
Oron Peled wrote:
On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My gliding club is going to write their own software, after years of being
dependent on an ancient Magic software that no-one could update and did
a fraction of the requirements.
Not exactly what you asked for, but
Oron Peled wrote:
On Sunday 22 February 2004 15:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To help clarify your club members the upgrade cost of MS, you may want
to demonstrate the *true* cost of the Magic solution -- having an abandoned
software that cannot be maintained any longer. The MS
On Sunday 22 February 2004 23:01, Gil Freund wrote:
Actually, this is not a good example. Magic was delivered in two flavors
- developer and run time. In order to modify the code of the application
you needed the developer version, as well the developer.
I have used Magic for many tasks back
Oron Peled wrote:
On Sunday 22 February 2004 23:01, Gil Freund wrote:
Actually, this is not a good example. Magic was delivered in two flavors
- developer and run time. In order to modify the code of the application
you needed the developer version, as well the developer.
I have used
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