On Wed, Mar 17, 2004, Nadav Har'El wrote about Re: Runtime changing of timezones:
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I can't find now a newspaper article on this issue (can somebody find
a pointer?), but what I remember reading is that people complained that
Yom Haazmaut happens on Monday this year according to the normal He
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand this completly (I've been through this myself when I
admin'ed at HUJI CS), and you are certainly right with your concernes.
I just think you are looking at the wrong direction.
Existing tools will help you do a pull protocol (cron+ftp, for
instance, BTW -
18 2004, 11:25,Yonah Russ:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand this completly (I've been through this myself when I
admin'ed at HUJI CS), and you are certainly right with your concernes.
I just think you are looking at the wrong direction.
Existing tools will help you do a pull
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Quoting guy keren, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/pub/tz/israel (look at the 'README' file) for easy
instructions for the madness called israeli summer-time ;)
the fun ain't over. just last week I read that Poraz plans to move
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
however memorial day (or rather, memorial weekend), Thanksgiving and I
think even halloween, not to mention christian events like ash sunday
and good friday, are often celebrated on second sunday of february or
last friday of September and similar dynamic
Yonah Russ wrote:
Ok- mercy- I give up ntp. The point I was trying to make is that we
all should get together and do it the same way. Let's try to make the
script to run these updates part of standard distributions, part of
the same rpm that distributes the TZ files in the first place maybe.
Oded Arbel wrote:
You'll have major problems with that, especially the part where you
assume
that everyone is connected to the internet all the time.
You can enable/disable this, or you can do some clever tricks with
if-up/if-down.
The fact is that I don't find it necessary at all - just
18 2004, 13:20,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Oded Arbel wrote:
You'll have major problems with that, especially the part where you
assume
that everyone is connected to the internet all the time.
You can enable/disable this, or you can do some clever tricks with
if-up/if-down.
There are
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Thu, 18 Mar:
It's pretty transparent for Debian users - I never had to deal with this
on my Debian -
the system is just up to date with no Israel specific tweaking.
I have opened bugs twice about DST starting or ending on the wrong
times. they
Thank you for pointing out zic, I hope this helps to solve the israel
summer-winter time issues. It also appears that run-time changes of the
systemwide timezone are not truly possible. I guess we need to change the
timezone, and perform a reboot. Not a problem b/c in reality these changes
will
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004, Ira Abramov wrote about Re: Runtime changing of timezones:
Quoting guy keren, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
ftp://ftp.cs.huji.ac.il/pub/tz/israel (look at the 'README' file) for easy
instructions for the madness called israeli summer-time ;)
the fun ain't over. just
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004, Yonah Russ wrote about Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime
changing of timezones:
With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way
to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has?
It *is* easy. For example, on Redhat I just get the updated
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 10:24, Nadav Har'El wrote:
There should be a law preventing politicians from messing with our
space-time continuum ;)
Interesting, are you suggesting that politicians somehow distort space-time?
In the case of some politicians, like our prime minister, this is
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
Recently it was announced that the algorithm for determining the date of
Yom Haaztmaut (as well as Yom Hazicaron and Yom Hashoa) will be changed
this year, making all known Hebrew calendar software produce wrong results.
what?! where?! are
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 10:24, Nadav Har'El wrote:
There should be a law preventing politicians from messing with our
space-time continuum ;)
Interesting, are you suggesting that politicians somehow distort space-time?
In the case of some politicians, like our
Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
Recently it was announced that the algorithm for determining the date of
Yom Haaztmaut (as well as Yom Hazicaron and Yom Hashoa) will be changed
this year, making all known Hebrew calendar software produce wrong results.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004, Ira Abramov wrote about Re: Runtime changing of timezones:
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
Recently it was announced that the algorithm for determining the date of
Yom Haaztmaut (as well as Yom Hazicaron and Yom Hashoa) will be changed
this year
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
what?! where?! are they moving it to a civilian date or
fixed-day-of-the-week a-la the US conventions? makes sense for something
like Thanksgiving, but moving Independance day around is odd, since the
exact date has significance...
So,
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
What's wrong with Yom Haazmaut being on Monday? Nothing really... Except
that it makes Yom Hazikkaron on Sunday, which in turn makes the Erev
Yom Hazikkaron on Motsei Shabat. This in turn, supposedly, means that
after years of debating
I meant to solve the problem of israeli summer time in a way that we
shouldn't have to update every individual station every year but rather
that one computer be updated and let the update propogate automatically
throughout israel.
perhaps we could piggy back the timezone settings on the
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 13:35, Ira Abramov wrote:
after years of debating whether it makes ANY sense to bunch memorial day
and independence day (I fealt rediculous and bad one year walking around
town on memorial day buying meat and booze for the party on ID eve), the
best solution they could
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:41:51 +0200, Yonah Russ russ (at) actcom.net.il wrote:
perhaps we could piggy back the timezone settings on the existing ntp
infrastructure so that ntp.ac.il would propogate the correct timezone
information to all the
Quoting Yuri Bronshtein, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
Holocaust day shouldn't move to Tisha b'av. There's a reason for it's
date - the day the Warsaw ghetto uprising began. Tisha b'av is a
religious date, which most Israelies don't remember, or care about.
that's sad. 9 of Av marks the
Yonah Russ wrote:
I meant to solve the problem of israeli summer time in a way that we
shouldn't have to update every individual station every year but
rather that one computer be updated and let the update propogate
automatically throughout israel.
perhaps we could piggy back the timezone
Ira Abramov wrote:
Quoting Yuri Bronshtein, from the post of Wed, 17 Mar:
Holocaust day shouldn't move to Tisha b'av. There's a reason for it's
date - the day the Warsaw ghetto uprising began. Tisha b'av is a
religious date, which most Israelies don't remember, or care about.
that's sad.
Title: Message
I have been
following this group now for a while, and it is great to see such an active
linux community here in israel. If I may, I would like to add a question about
timezones.
If I use tzselect to
change my time zone, is there any way to get applications that are already
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Nachum Kanovsky wrote:
If I use tzselect to change my time zone, is there any way to get
applications that are already running to notice the timezone change, and
update their clocks appropriately? perhaps by sending them some signal? As
an example application, I would
With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way
to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has?
yonah
guy keren wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Nachum Kanovsky wrote:
If I use tzselect to change my time zone, is there any way to get
applications that are already
Yonah Russ wrote:
With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way
to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has?
yonah
It's awfully easy, assuming you are not trying something irrelevant.
If all you want is to get daylight saving at the apropriate time, you
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