Re: Nothing sadder then a dead activists wiki [was Re: Linux forthe community]

2002-09-23 Thread Lior Kesos
Lior Kesos wrote: Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: BTW If someone is interested in volunteering your time for their regular courses, or getting a job there you can send them your info through their (very non linux-friendlly) site. If anyone missed it (My post was in the end of a _very_ long thread)

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Oleg
*note's for tommorow morning : 08:30 : install Aspell. 08:31 : shoot hetz (he knows why) 08:32 : kill myself. Can't you multitask Why not .. 08:30 install Aspell; shoot hetz; kill -9 myself; :-)) Oleg. = To

[Fwd: Re: Hebrew fonts in Abiword - again]

2002-09-23 Thread Itai Segall
Whoops, replied only to Tzafrir. Message attached. Original Message Subject: Re: Hebrew fonts in Abiword - again Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:47:57 +0300 From: Itai Segall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Itai

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 02:46, Tal Achituv wrote: About the SuSe - someone asked for it on the web-form - so I asked you guys, I`m not for it - but I had to ask. Also - I am (totally) uncertain of what its license allows... in short - you can install it, you cannot give the cd's. I`d

Re: Go to hell

2002-09-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Especially since result #2 seems so much more relevant. Tal Achituv wrote: WOW! That seems intentional. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adir Abraham Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 11:46 PM To: Haifa's Linux Club; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Michael Sternberg
I'm a little bit confused about how to set timezone in Linux computer (RH). There is /etc/timezone file, /etc/localtime file, and TZ environment variable. Ok, /etc/localtime I set to be file compiled with zic utility. What about /etc/timezone and environment variable ? Why do we need them at

Re: Go to hell

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 13:43, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Especially since result #2 seems so much more relevant. if you've read the instructions, you wouldnt be able to see resault #2.. RTFM ! :) Tal Achituv wrote: WOW! That seems intentional. -Original Message- From:

RE: Go to hell

2002-09-23 Thread herouth
Quoting Tal Achituv [EMAIL PROTECTED]: WOW! That seems intentional. Well, I'm not sure about that. You know Google rates sites by the way other sites refer to them, though I don't know the exact heuristic. If enough sites refer to microsoft.com, and use the expression go to hell, it could

insta party - some updates

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
hi all, 1) just got off the phone with gal mor from YNET. he's on a week off from work, but promissed to try and publish an item at ynet about the event in the next 1-2 days. 2) actcom are giving us 58 shirts that they have left from a previous event. i tried to talk to the bet dfoos and

[OT] Job offer for students

2002-09-23 Thread Aviram Jenik
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Re: Go to hell

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 16:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Tal Achituv [EMAIL PROTECTED]: WOW! That seems intentional. Well, I'm not sure about that. You know Google rates sites by the way other sites refer to them, though I don't know the exact heuristic. If enough sites

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote about Timezone setup: How can I update time with ntpdate utility (I can not afford ntpd) - so the computer time (saved in UTC) will be updated ? In what sense can you not afford ntpd? It doesn't cost any money, you know. Anyway, on PCs you should

Re: insta party - some updates

2002-09-23 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 9/23/2002 3:34 PM, Amir Tal wrote: 3) as it looks now, we will not have internet connectivity at the party due to the lack of an ADSL line. tal achituv is trying to work something out with the administration of the renanim mall. if you have a connection at bezaq, or any other connection

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Michael Sternberg
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:38:58 +0300 Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote about Timezone setup: How can I update time with ntpdate utility (I can not afford ntpd) - so the computer time (saved in UTC) will be updated ? In what sense can you

Re: insta party - some updates

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 17:40, Sagi Bashari wrote: On 9/23/2002 3:34 PM, Amir Tal wrote: 3) as it looks now, we will not have internet connectivity at the party due to the lack of an ADSL line. tal achituv is trying to work something out with the administration of the renanim mall. if

Re: insta party - some updates

2002-09-23 Thread Orna Agmon
why are we doing this seperately? we will soon have an instaparty in haifux, and i think shlomo yona is arranging one in the haifa uni soon. we are bound to need quite a lot of shirts for that, so there is no need to print small quantities. and i hope actcom will also sponsor the haifux

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:40, Michael Sternberg wrote: I'm a little bit confused about how to set timezone in Linux computer Yes, I can understand why... :-) There is /etc/timezone file, /etc/localtime file, and TZ environment variable. Ok, /etc/localtime I set to be file compiled with

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]

2002-09-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:12, Tal Achituv wrote: What we need to worry about is Internet connection... I`n on the line with NetVision Bezeq... What about Actcom? if they're sponsers they can help with the connection! If you have *connections* somewhere - let me know, if you don't - pray

redhat cd

2002-09-23 Thread Guy Cohen
im looking for a redhat cds, burned or original. i'll pay of course, for the reasonable price. please reply in private. -- Unix Administration, | http://www.unixadmin.co.il locally and remotely. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Planning, installation,| Phone: 972-3-6201373

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Michael Sternberg
Thank you. This was most usefull answer I heard at this list for a long time.. :) On 23 Sep 2002 17:44:40 +0300 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 15:40, Michael Sternberg wrote: I'm a little bit confused about how to set timezone in Linux computer Yes, I

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive]

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 17:48, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:12, Tal Achituv wrote: What we need to worry about is Internet connection... I`n on the line with NetVision Bezeq... What about Actcom? if they're sponsers they can help with the connection! they cant.

RE: redhat cd

2002-09-23 Thread Martin Polley
im looking for a redhat cds, burned or original. i'll pay of course, for the reasonable price. This was posted here a few weeks ago: -Original Message- From: Nadav Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zuri zadok; Amir Tal;

Re: Go to hell

2002-09-23 Thread Eliran
Amir Tal wrote: if you've read the instructions, you wouldnt be able to see resault #2.. RTFM ! :) RTFI(nstructions) ? -- a href=http://www.rootshell.be/~eg;Eliran G/a = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

[Insta-Party] Winmodems Drivers

2002-09-23 Thread Eliran
Hello ! Sorry if you have already discussed it but does any of you bring winmodem drivers (most fit on a floppy or two)... And, how will the users choose which distro to choose while they don't know much about linux at all ? -- a href=http://www.rootshell.be/~eg;Eliran G/a

Re: [Insta-Party] Winmodems Drivers

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 19:25, Eliran wrote: Hello ! Sorry if you have already discussed it but does any of you bring winmodem drivers (most fit on a floppy or two)... dont ask - bring ;) And, how will the users choose which distro to choose while they don't know much about linux at

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
Like some others, I didn't read all the HOWTO, but, being one of those rare items (aka a linuxchick) , I felt the urge share my opinion on the subject. On Monday 23 September 2002 00:59, Oded Arbel wrote: Amir Tal wrote: come to think of it, why dont we see more weman involved with linux ?

[OFFTOPIC about women] Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: Ho, and another thing, make woman RTFM. Won't do if you install linux on her machine, configure and maintain it. They won't learn to use the system, and you'llget a headache. This is true also for replacing lightbolbs btw. I suppose that both sides

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ma'ayan Eshed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all the blonde-and-a-lightbolbs jokes around). Hmm... Not just lightbulbs... http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/How-Blondes-print-with-WinWord.html http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Word-for-Blondes.html ;-) dad wasn't kind enough to take me under

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive] important

2002-09-23 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
I didn'd look at that line. Is there still a need for username/password for an ADSL account? I can supply one for the party!! A dedicated account for it on Israsrv, 1.5M Please let me know! And do it fast. maayan On Monday 23 September 2002 17:48, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Mon, 2002-09-23

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive] important

2002-09-23 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
I can probbably mannage more than one 1.5M accounts. All legal and straight. I didn'd look at that line. Is there still a need for username/password for an ADSL account? I can supply one for the party!! A dedicated account for it on Israsrv, 1.5M Please let me know! And do it fast.

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
Hmm... Not just lightbulbs... http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/How-Blondes-print-with-WinWord.html http://internet.ls-la.net/pictures/Word-for-Blondes.html ;-) seen better, google for them yourself dad wasn't kind enough to take me under his wing and explain to me one shouldn't

RE: InstParty

2002-09-23 Thread Tal Achituv
Here goes: Internet: - Talking to bezeq Netvision failed. Netvision seem as if they couldn't care less... And bezeq agreed to do the job on one day notice - but want 301NIS... I managed to get us a bezeq phone line for modem use... So we could google for drivers :-) at least that... (

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: This essay is not just about women in Linux. Many of the points are relevant to newbies in general, and to women in a mainly-male environment in general. For example, one of the items is Don't treat women stereotypically and another is Do

RE: InstParty

2002-09-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 21:50, Tal Achituv wrote: Here goes: Internet: - Talking to bezeq Netvision failed. Netvision seem as if they couldn't care less... And bezeq agreed to do the job on one day notice - but want 301NIS... 301NIS? Say YES! I'm paying... I managed to get

RE: InstParty

2002-09-23 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tal Achituv wrote: Talking to bezeq Netvision failed. Netvision seem as if they couldn't care less... And bezeq agreed to do the job on one day notice - but want 301NIS... I believe Gilad's friend still has some left overs from the August Penguins. -- Orna. |

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:38:58 +0300 Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote about Timezone setup: How can I update time with ntpdate utility (I can not afford ntpd)- so the computertime (saved in

Deaf and LUG meetings (was: Re: Women and Linux)

2002-09-23 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Orna Agmon wrote: Once they do get to a LUG meeting, it is not easy to stick around. As for me, it took quite some time to dare to come to Linux meetings on my own (i.e., not as sombody's date ), and to dare to express in public. In addition to women, there are also

RE: InstParty

2002-09-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 21:29, Orna Agmon wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tal Achituv wrote: Talking to bezeq Netvision failed. Netvision seem as if they couldn't care less... And bezeq agreed to do the job on one day notice - but want 301NIS... I believe Gilad's friend still has some left

Re: [Insta-Party] Winmodems Drivers

2002-09-23 Thread Sagi Bashari
On 9/23/2002 6:25 PM, Eliran wrote: Hello ! Sorry if you have already discussed it but does any of you bring winmodem drivers (most fit on a floppy or two)... And, how will the users choose which distro to choose while they don't know much about linux at all ? Tell me where are they

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Re: Timezone setup: The answer is POSIX compliance. POSIX has this bizzare notion of how to handle time zones. it involves the TZ variable and the timezone file. Glibc must support it to be POSIX compliant but since its a really brain dead

Re: Women (spelling fixed!) and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote about Re: Weman and Linux: girl's name - and you can see Nana's forum - there are few more girls who use Linux. 1.I'm very glad you've forgot my name, thats one step towards equality (; Maybe if you post more, people will remember your name :) And

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Orna Agmon wrote about Re: Women and Linux: Another imporant aspect is the pass making. Taking the woman who is interested in Linux first as a woman, and only later as a linux person. Why would you want to be treated as a linux person before of a woman? This completely

Re: Weman and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 20:41, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: Like some others, I didn't read all the HOWTO, but, being one of those rare items (aka a linuxchick) , I felt the urge share my opinion on the subject. On Monday 23 September 2002 00:59, Oded Arbel wrote: Amir Tal wrote: come to

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive] important

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 21:19, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: I didn'd look at that line. Is there still a need for username/password for an ADSL account? I can supply one for the party!! A dedicated account for it on Israsrv, 1.5M Please let me know! And do it fast. i believe there's also

Re: InstParty, [Tal is alive] important

2002-09-23 Thread Amir Tal
On Monday 23 September 2002 21:27, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote: I can probbably mannage more than one 1.5M accounts. All legal and straight. as for now, it apears that there are going to be some problems with having adsl installed in the mall. tal achituv is working on it with the renanim mall, and

Re: Women (spelling fixed!) and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Ma'ayan Eshed
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Ma'ayan Eshed wrote about Re: Weman and Linux: girl's name - and you can see Nana's forum - there are few more girls who use Linux. 1.I'm very glad you've forgot my name, thats one step towards equality (; Maybe if you post more, people will remember your

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the only person who talked to me was trying to hit on me. Orna, he just saw more in you than just a Linux user... ;-) And Hets: The fact that you almost managed to count the women on linux-il means something, does it not? try doing it with the men...

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Orna Agmon wrote about Re: Women and Linux: ... To continue our women's-studies discussion, Reshet Bet's Hakesher Ha'Israeli had late last night an interesting (in my opinion) interview with an Israeli female programmer who has made it, getting a masters degree at Stanford

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Orna Agmon wrote about Re: Women and Linux: Another imporant aspect is the pass making. Taking the woman who is interested in Linux first as a woman, and only later as a linux person. Why would you want to be treated as a

Re: Women and Linux

2002-09-23 Thread guy keren
On 24 Sep 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the only person who talked to me was trying to hit on me. Orna, he just saw more in you than just a Linux user... ;-) oleg, it is precisely these kinds of comments which drive people crazy. obviously, you did

Re: Timezone setup

2002-09-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 22:49, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote about Re: Timezone setup: The answer is POSIX compliance. POSIX has this bizzare notion of how to handle time zones. it involves the TZ variable and the timezone file. Glibc must support it to