Re: OT: taxing websites in Israel

2003-01-12 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Ira, We haven't had any problem with getting the Israeli tax authorities to recognize domain registration expenses as business expenses. I suggest that your friend consult his accountant or maybe get a different accountant. Tangibility has never been a requirement for recognition as a

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux(was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Eli Marmor wrote: I didn't want to detail too much in the point of CONF files, because it was not my main point. But it caused some balagan, so please let me give an example of a format that is not proprietary, and on the other hand is not XML, and still is great for

Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
A newbie question: when attempting to install a large application (OpenOffice) it refused due to low disk space. Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? Thanks, -- The News, Uncensored

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:57, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? An automated one ? not that I can recall. but you can always use `du -Hs` to look at each

Make files and environment

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
Hi list. not really alinux question, but if you please - I'm writing a Makefile to build some project, and it needs to get some data from environment variables. specificly some variables that are initialized from a profile.d bash file. now I know that I can access environment variables from

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shoshannah Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A newbie question: when attempting to install a large application (OpenOffice) it refused due to low disk space. Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 Shoshannah Forbes wrote: A newbie question: when attempting to install a large application (OpenOffice) it refused due to low disk space. Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
du -sk * | sort -n And you also probably want to use 'df -k' [1] to see how much free space you have, listed per partition. If your partitoin is too small to begin with, you can tell OpenOffice to install itself into a different location. [1] or df -H, as I just learnt from Oded's post :)

Re: Make files and environment

2003-01-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list. not really alinux question, but if you please - I'm writing a Makefile to build some project, and it needs to get some data from environment variables. specificly some variables that are initialized from a profile.d bash file. now I know that

Re: Make files and environment

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 Oded Arbel wrote: Hi list. not really alinux question, but if you please - I'm writing a Makefile to build some project, and it needs to get some data from environment variables. specificly some variables that are initialized from a profile.d bash file. now I know that I

RMS Lecture : Cab Ride

2003-01-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! Since Petakh-Tikva is a bit out of the way for a Ramat-Aviv-Gimel person like me, I am planning to take a taxi there. If anyone wants to join me and share the bill, please speak now. Alternatiely, if you can give _me_ a ride in your private vehicle, I'll be more than glad to accept this

Re: Make files and environment

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 January 2003 11:36, Christoph Bugel wrote: Maybe the clean way is to do it from the 'post-commit script'? On Sunday 12 January 2003 11:42, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: What's wrong with $ . profile make -e You mean - source the profile script before calling make from the post-commit

Re: RMS Lecture : Cab Ride

2003-01-12 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I have semi official information that reveals that bus number 49 from Ramata Aviv to Petach Tikva should cost about 8 NIS. Shachar. Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi! Since Petakh-Tikva is a bit out of the way for a Ramat-Aviv-Gimel person like me, I am planning to take a taxi there. If anyone

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, Shoshannah Forbes wrote about Dealing with low disk space: Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? Several people suggested du to you. Du would be very useful when

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Skliarouk Arie
Hello, On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, Shoshannah Forbes wrote about Dealing with low disk space: Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? But it's not

Re: RMS Lecture : Cab Ride

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 Shachar Shemesh wrote: I have semi official information that reveals that bus number 49 from Ramata Aviv to Petach Tikva should cost about 8 NIS. The IBM building is also some 10 or 15 minutes walk from the Jabotinski / Geha junction. And getting there is quite easy with public

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Amir Tal
On Sunday 12 January 2003 13:07, Nadav Har'El wrote: people, what all the fuss about ? didn't shoshnnah ONLY want to know how much free space she has on each partition ? what's wrong with a simple df -h ? :) as for the OO installation, my guess is that its a simple low space in /tmp or ~/tmp

Re: RMS Lecture : Cab Ride

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 I wrote: The IBM building is also some 10 or 15 minutes walk from the On second thought, make that 20 minutes. Your mileage may vary :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Oded Arbel wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:57, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely, without making a mess? An automated one ? not that I can recall. but

Re: Stallman's speech

2003-01-12 Thread Doron Ofek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 áéåí øàùåï 12 éðåàø 2003, 13:16, Oleg Goldshmidt ëúá: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: track. Can the people who work in IBM and read this check whether the audio of that lecture could be put

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 January 2003 14:15, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: du -scH /ath/to/check/* |sort -n Side note : I don't think this line would work - it will sort '32MB' before '450kB' which is hardly what you'd want :-) Side note to Amir Tal: Isn't this what IGLU is all about - getting into heated

Re: Make files and environment

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 January 2003 12:53, Oded Arbel wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 11:36, Christoph Bugel wrote: Maybe the clean way is to do it from the 'post-commit script'? On Sunday 12 January 2003 11:42, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: What's wrong with $ . profile make -e You mean - source

Ha'aretz article regarding RMS

2003-01-12 Thread Arik Baratz
Hello Richard, linux-il members. (Un?)Fortunately I am ill, so I had some free (as in beer) time and translated most of this article back into English. If someone can give a copy to RMS on Tuesday, it could be nice, I know he was interested in the content of this article. I won't come, I'm

Ha'aretz article regarding RMS

2003-01-12 Thread Arik Baratz
[this email was also sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sent it from the wrong address, so it didn't get to the list. This is a resend.] Hello Richard, linux-il members. (Un?)Fortunately I am ill, so I had some free (as in beer) time and translated most of this article back into English. If someone

article in nana

2003-01-12 Thread Doron Ofek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all New article in nana http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=51877sid=10 Doron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+IWmGUa4lXxqoBCERAuF1AJ9WeVvjcdL2QWxVbzxgmAxhCJ4I7gCghSwR QpgXd/oXP3Wb2s7UvChiZ3Y= =/18Y

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 Oded Arbel wrote: Side note to Amir Tal: Isn't this what IGLU is all about - getting into heated discussions over simple issues ? ;-) ok, here goes :) du -sk * will ignore files/directories that start with a dot.. and these can sometimes be large too. (for example .ccache)

Re: Dealing with low disk space

2003-01-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 02:15:29PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Oded Arbel wrote: On Sunday 12 January 2003 10:57, Shoshannah Forbes wrote: Is there any utility out there that can help me figure out what is using all my HD space and what can be removed safely,

Re: Ha'aretz article regarding RMS

2003-01-12 Thread Christoph Bugel
On 2003-01-12 Arik Baratz wrote: Terminology: I use f/b for Free as in free beer or the Hebrew HINAM and f/s for Free as in free speech or HOFSHI in Hebrew. The word HOFSHI seems to be popular as the hebrew translation of 'free as in speech', but I think when people hear TOCHNA HOFSHIT they

Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-12 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are just drawing the line somewhere else. I wholeheartedly agree with that - it's a line-drawing game .. I choose to draw the line beyond fair use because fair use is an established legal principle that would be a

Re: article in nana

2003-01-12 Thread Eli Marmor
Doron Ofek wrote: Hi all New article in nana http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=51877sid=10 Bastards! They killed Gnu! They took the JPEG image of the Gnu from FSF site, converted it to GIF (!), and put it in the article! RMS put that as JPEG *INTENTIONALLY*:

A word of caution to buyers from Plonter

2003-01-12 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
Hi People, I was looking for a good webcam Camera to use with Linux and GnomeMeeting (great program!), so I searched for a camera which has good sensors, and full Linux drivers. I found out that Philips PCVC740/PCVC750 and Logitech QuickCam Pro 3000 and 4000 are sharing the same drivers which

Re: article in nana

2003-01-12 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sunday 12 January 2003 15:52, Eli Marmor wrote: But at least, the Gnu is in a good company: Another images that were attached to the article, were: a logo of sex, drugs and penguin (another type of love) Note that the peace, love, linux logo is from the IBM linux PR campaign, and

RE: article in nana

2003-01-12 Thread Dvir Volk
We'll fix that to png, just for you :) -Original Message- From: Eli Marmor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: article in nana Doron Ofek wrote: Hi all New article in nana

Re: article in nana

2003-01-12 Thread Uri Bruck
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Eli Marmor wrote: But at least, the Gnu is in a good company: Another images that were attached to the article, were: RMS with a flute (halilit) That's a recorder, not a flute. flute is 'halil' (aka halil-tzad because of the way it is held) his autograph

Re[2]: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X Resources. Does it threat anybody? No? OK; Let's go on: There are several requirements that are critical for creating a good GUI. One of them is the ability to work against a working program, and not just a file. Well, this has

OT: gif replacement (was Re: article in nana)

2003-01-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, Sorry for being off-topic. On the same subject: I thought that the technical issues of moving from gif are solved for many years. However, a few days ago my brother prepared his homework, in which he had to build a small website. He got from the net some animated gifs, and I wanted to

Re[2]: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Affecting a program at run-time? I don't want to affect crond at run-time or inetd at run-time or even Apache at run-time. I want to configure them, and run them with the same configuration. If you want to create an Apache Module that will listen to

[Yet another long post] Re: RMS over Humous - meeting summery

2003-01-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does that mean that you draw the line wherever the law goes? That's part of it, but it also seems a reasonable place to draw a line, which I hope is why the law is what it is. After all, I have bought the CD legally, and I only want to listen to parts

99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have a box with RH 7.3 that behaves strangely. Sometimes (some say but I cannot confirm that on every saturday ) it reaches a very high load. Earlier they rebooted it but today I was checking it. It had 5.16 load and 99.6% idle time. What can be the cause ? What else should I check for this

Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread Henry Ficher
Gabor Szabo wrote: I have a box with RH 7.3 that behaves strangely. Sometimes (some say but I cannot confirm that on every saturday ) it reaches a very high load. Earlier they rebooted it but today I was checking it. It had 5.16 load and 99.6% idle time. What can be the cause ? Weekly cron

Re[2]: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Evgeny Stambulchik wrote: Hence, this approach is wrong. Webmin, LinuxConf, YAST, DrakeConf, you name it. Huge duplication of efforts and _none_ of the above working properly. You need an API (abstraction) that will both generate AND parse the configuration. Moreover,

Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, Gabor Szabo wrote about 99.6% idle 5.16 load: It had 5.16 load and 99.6% idle time. What can be the cause ? What else should I check for this ? If you have load 5 but no process is using CPU time, it is most likely that you have 5 processed in the D (uninterruptable

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, Evgeny Stambulchik wrote about Re[2]: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX): Of course, you need a bidirectional mapping (i.e. not only from the disk representation to the in-memory representation, but also vice-

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hence, this approach is wrong. Webmin, LinuxConf, YAST, DrakeConf, you name it. Huge duplication of efforts and _none_ of the above working properly. You need an API (abstraction) that will both generate AND parse the configuration. Moreover, the Apache itself MUST use this

Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: If you have load 5 but no process is using CPU time, it is most likely that you have 5 processed in the D (uninterruptable sleep) state. Run ps aux and look for a D in the STAT column to confirm this hunch. this sounds odd - a process in the 'D' state

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux(was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Nadav Har'El wrote: Of course, you need a bidirectional mapping (i.e. not only from the disk representation to the in-memory representation, but also vice- versa); Otherwise, the changes can't be translated to rules of configuration files. Right, and the lack of these features (actually, the

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Evgeny Stambulchik wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hence, this approach is wrong. Webmin, LinuxConf, YAST, DrakeConf, you name it. Huge duplication of efforts and _none_ of the above working properly. You need an API (abstraction) that will both generate AND parse the

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:36:53PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: There was a program called xresedit (or something like that... hmm, could it be that XFree86 dropped this??) to edit running applications' configuration on-the-fly (e.g., you could change the button colors on a running application

Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, guy keren wrote about Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load: If you have load 5 but no process is using CPU time, it is most likely that you have 5 processed in the D (uninterruptable sleep) state. Run ps aux and look for a D in the STAT column to confirm this hunch. this sounds

Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load

2003-01-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:21:09PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Jan 12, 2003, guy keren wrote about Re: 99.6% idle 5.16 load: If you have load 5 but no process is using CPU time, it is most likely that you have 5 processed in the D (uninterruptable sleep) state. Run ps aux and look

culmus fonts in latest betas?

2003-01-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi I was trying to push the culmus fonts into distros, but it seems I didn't try hard enough. I can't find a culmus package or anything similar in the list of packages of nither mandrake beta not redhat beta. Anybody here with a number of useful bug reports that can help pushing it? (It is not

Re: Binary configuration files as panacea to whatever ails Linux (was: Re: the problem with LINUX)

2003-01-12 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Think about embeded SQL. The backend could be a daemon (e.g. PostgreSQL), but could also be a plain file (see SQLite). Basically, you just swap the header files. /me thinks: how can one binary work with all the different backends... man dlopen. Or read existing code.

Re: culmus fonts in latest betas?

2003-01-12 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Anybody here with a number of useful bug reports that can help pushing it? (It is not just getting it into the distro, but also into the fontconfig aliases file, so it will be used by files by default, and other stuff) For this (at least in Red Hat case) you'll have to file an RFE...

Re: OT: gif replacement (was Re: article in nana)

2003-01-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Hi, Sorry for being off-topic. On the same subject: I thought that the technical issues of moving from gif are solved for many years. However, a few days ago my brother prepared his homework, in which he had to build a small website. He got

Re: OT: gif replacement (was Re: article in nana)

2003-01-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 03:07:16AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: Hi, Sorry for being off-topic. On the same subject: I thought that the technical issues of moving from gif are solved for many years. However, a few days ago my brother