Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics... -- Victory!!!

2002-10-17 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Stas Sergeev wrote: Oh, and there is still one very bad thing, which is that we can't open the high ports in a fast mode (or can we?), so sometimes it works even slower than xdos... why ioperm() doesn't allow 0x3ff ports?.. Once upon a time Linus decided that a 128

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-10-03 Thread phrostie
an update i did finally get dosemu working. i can run EZ cosmos, commander keen 1-3, and battle chess. commander keen 4 and above still lock up. i did notice that the startup windows are reporting no or low memory. On Monday 23 September 2002 17:14, Bart Oldeman wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002,

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-10-03 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. phrostie wrote: an update i did finally get dosemu working. What update you did and where was the problem at the end? keen 4 and above still lock up. Update your keen. See this: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-msdosm=103211907106200w=2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-24 Thread phrostie
thanks to all for the responses. last night i was going thru the different runtime options, but regardless of what i try i still can't seem to get any of my VGA stuff working again. under video it asks for video address. where do i get/verify this for my card? For S3 cards you must not worry

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-24 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. phrostie wrote: last night i was going thru the different runtime options, but regardless of what i try i still can't seem to get any of my VGA stuff working again. Then create a log of video events (-D9+v option to dosemu) and see what's going wrong. And upgrade your dosemu:

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, phrostie wrote: not support this video card and does not open up enough ports. what ports? could you expand on this part? That is video card dependent - you have to run with the debug flags as I explained before to find out which ones. also, i was wondering, does

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Stas Sergeev wrote: This problem exists only on some (modern?) cards for VESA modes, but for VGA modes there must be no such problem at all (Bart, do you really have any examples when this is a problem even for VGA? Correct me then, please). Well VGA only uses standard

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. phrostie wrote: not support this video card and does not open up enough ports. what ports? could you expand on this part? i have a S3 For S3 cards you must not worry about this issue at all. Setting $_chipset=s3 worked for my S3 Trio flawlessly both for VGA and VESA modes. Don't

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. Bart Oldeman wrote: Well VGA only uses standard ports so the only problem is to pass the VBIOS initialization in the first place, that is executing the code at c000:0003 Where does it do that? I have found only init_vga_card(), but that doesn't seem to be the place. Also I searched the

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Stas Sergeev wrote: Bart Oldeman wrote: Well VGA only uses standard ports so the only problem is to pass the VBIOS initialization in the first place, that is executing the code at c000:0003 Where does it do that? I have found only init_vga_card(), but that doesn't

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. Bart Oldeman wrote: c000:0003 Where does it do that? I have found only init_vga_card(), but that doesn't seem to be the place. Also I searched the +g log for c000:0003 and found nothing... src/base/bios/bios.S, line 507, F800:4200. init_vga_card() pushes f800:4200 on the stack

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-23 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Stas Sergeev wrote: Doing the reset call from within DOS brings everything back in a sane state. Just wondering, why this reset is needed so badly? Just a very rough guess: proper initialization of certain BIOS variables in the range 0x400-0x4ff (0040:-0040:00ff) ?

RE:Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-21 Thread Hell.Surfers
Try running as root... Cheers, Dean McEwan. Currently hacking KGI, which I don't understand, oh and ask me about OpenModemTalk... On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 04:42:05 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---BeginMessage--- I'd want to know specifically if video hardware on hp is

RE:Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-21 Thread matt
I already did run it as root.. I tried lots of stuff before ultimately giving up. However, I do plan on playing around with dosemu again in the future. btw, i'm already subscribed to the list so you really don't have to forward a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if that's how your email client

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-21 Thread Stas Sergeev
Hello. Bart Oldeman wrote: your problem is mostly not video shadowing I tried this privately already - doesn't work:) but just that DOSEMU does not support this video card and does not open up enough ports. Note however that this must not be the case for VGA modes. And esp. if the person

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-20 Thread matt
I think it's been like this for a very very LONG time. I've been monitoring dosemu's progress using google groups and it apparently has been in production since like 93. I think the requirement for having to disable video/bios shadowing has been a part of dosemu for years if not since the

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-20 Thread Bart Oldeman
1st note: you do not need to (and never needed to) disable shadowing if you use graphics in xdosemu, which is quite usable nowadays, but in certain cases too slow, for some graphical programs not perfect and not full screen (your apps run in the DOS in the BOX). Only on the linux console, IF

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-09 Thread phrostie
i had a number of cga/vga games working in dosemu at one time. battle chess, commanderkeen, mario,,,. i have not been able to get tem running even with the same dosemu.conf files. maybe this is why. when did this start? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awhile back I tried getting graphics to

Re: please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-09 Thread Pat
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awhile back I tried getting graphics to work in dosemu on some linux distros I was playing with at the time. Sadly, I was totally unsuccessful. I realized after reading the docs that one had to disable video/bios shadowing in order to use

please explain to me why video/bios shadowing must be disabled to use graphics...

2002-09-08 Thread matt
Awhile back I tried getting graphics to work in dosemu on some linux distros I was playing with at the time. Sadly, I was totally unsuccessful. I realized after reading the docs that one had to disable video/bios shadowing in order to use graphics. The problem is, my computer (HP8570C) *does