Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread m.w.chang
People spent more time playing games on desktops than doing serious business. Do we need DirectX and super-intelligent GUI for a business desktop? Definitely no. I frankly don't know wehther they were expecting a capable desktop for business users or game console for home users. Virutally all

Apache Question

2002-06-21 Thread Brian Witowski
I have Apache running on my server. I also have the default COL page still intact. But somehow, while trying to create virtual servers, I messed something up. I'm getting a 403 Forbidden error. It says You don't have permission to access / on this server. So I deleted the virtual servers,

Re: Apache Question

2002-06-21 Thread Tom Wilson
- Original Message - From: Brian Witowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:27:09 -0400 To: Linux Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Question I have Apache running on my server. I also have the default COL page still intact. But somehow, while trying to create

Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Ben Duncan
Is there anyway to override the Yast2 defaults on software dependencies? I have installed LPRng from pristine source and removed the standard RPM of LPR that Suse 8.0 ships. I did this because of some specific settings I need vs the way SuSe wants to control the printer. However, evertime I

Anti-Spam

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Re: kernel modules

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Davidson
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 21:36:56 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:51:39 -0400 begin Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I've compiled a kernel and I realize I want to compile 2 more modules. If I run make menuconfig, without make mrproper, will

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
And what would a single 'unified' linux desktop solve? I *HATE* KDE with a passion. I will never willingly use it again. So, how can you create 1 desktop to serve the needs of everyone? Multiple desktops are not the problem. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, m.w.chang wrote: People spent more time

Re: Opera question 6.01: Password prompt not offered

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Joel Hammer wrote: I just installed 6.01 version of opera. I really am getting desperate over netscape (slow, crashes, consumes mucho CPU time). Joel, For the life of me, i fail to understand why you are insistant on using Netscape-6.x when Mozilla-1.0 has been out for

Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Red Hat 7.3 Pro server: eth0 eepro100 192.168.0.4 (no cable connected!) eth1 3c59x192.168.0.5 When eth0 is up, I can ping both .4 and .5. Samba won't browse. I took eth0 down (ifconfig etho down). I can still ping both addresses but samba will now browse. Pull cable out of eth1 (machine

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
Look at your routing table (route -n). That is where all of the problems lie. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Michael Hipp wrote: Red Hat 7.3 Pro server: eth0 eepro100 192.168.0.4 (no cable connected!) eth1 3c59x192.168.0.5 When eth0 is up, I can ping both .4 and .5. Samba won't browse. I took

Re: Opera question 6.01: Password prompt not offered

2002-06-21 Thread Joel Hammer
I don't upgrade every several weeks! I try to use software for many months or years, provided it is working properly. Netscape 6.2 was a great improvement over 6.0 and had been working much better previously. I suspect that web sites are adding more features (read advertisements) and 6.2 is

Re: Opera question 6.01: Password prompt not offered

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
I don't see what upgrading every several weeks had to do with this at all. Even if you installed Netscape-6.2 the day it came out, kyou were already a few official Mozilla builds behind the latest release at the time of netscape's release. my point is, why are you bothering with netscape at all?

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Agreed. The purpose shouldn't be to dictate what you run, but to make sure whatever you choose to run is installed the same way across distros. It would help greatly, if a distro has kde for example, they would install it the same as everyone else. If there's an argument against that, beyond

Re: Opera question 6.01: Password prompt not offered

2002-06-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Mozilla 1.0 is worlds faster than Netscape 6. Especially if you compile your own optimized version. And I see no logical difference between trying a new software, like Opera 6.01, and trying an updated version of something you're already using. FWIW, Netscape 7 is only a couple weeks from

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Ok, perhaps. But how hard is it to say pick one, any one, and go with it. It's a Jihad because people make it so, not because of some compelling technical reason. Let's just settle it by making a new directory called /jihad and put everything there. Arguing tastes great less filling gets us

Re: kernel modules

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Davidson
Alright. Now I've done it. I needed to rebuild my kernel after-all, and I didn't make a backup of my working kernel(1 of my finer brain-dead moments). I ran 'make modules install' instead of 'make modules_install'. I ran make modules_install afterward. Now I can't boot. It just says 'loading

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Thanks Net Llama! I corrected a problem of wrong gateway and now am down to this (route -n): Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUseIface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread dep
begin Michael Hipp's quote: | Ok, perhaps. But how hard is it to say pick one, any one, and go | with it. It's a Jihad because people make it so, not because of | some compelling technical reason. but, you see, there *is* a compelling technical reason. putting it in /usr makes life very

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
So put it in /opt. Or put it in /foo or /dep. Just put it somewhere and put it there every time. I'm not arguing for a *particular* solution. Just *one* solution. Is there somewhere a compelling argument against standardizing such things. I'm willing to be educated. Michael On Friday 21

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
If you don't mind a horrible hack, there's a fairly easy way to do this. Just go ahead and let Yast install whatever it wants. Then use rpm to find all the files it installed (rpm -ql whatever), and delete all those files. Do the deletion manually; do not do it through Yast or rpm. It's

Re: Still the best...

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I agree with you ideally. I (and many others) have been suggesting the creation of a base distro for some time. It just makes sense. It costs everyone less while promoting interoperability which promotes Linux. It has seemed like many see other distros as the enemy when there are many other

Re: Mail clients

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I love Sylpheed. When I started using it, however, filters didn't work on IMAP. I believe they were going to fix that, but since I already set up Procmail to sort things, I have not tried in quite a few revisions. On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:16:42 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Perhaps I need a little educating. What is the reason that putting KDE in /opt makes life any easier? There's /usr, /usr/local, and /opt, and it seems like everyone picks one and sticks with it, but I don't immediately see the reason that /opt is any better than /usr. Perhaps I missed it

Re: Apache Question

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Make sure you don't have some ownership/rights issues with the files. For instance, if you moved /home/httpd/html to some other location but that location is owned by root and permissions don't allow other users to read/execute, etc... On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:27:09 -0400 Brian Witowski [EMAIL

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Unfortunately, you have run into the problem with software that wants to do it all for you and not be aware of the needs for things to be different than originally planned. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 08:17:10 -0500 Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyway to override the Yast2 defaults on

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
You, you fix this by having only one adaptor per subnet. If you really want to have the box dually-connected, plug each interface into a different subnet. On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:17:04 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Net Llama! I corrected a problem of wrong gateway and

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
This is a nice entry in /server.log On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:29:42 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't mind a horrible hack, there's a fairly easy way to do this. Just go ahead and let Yast install whatever it wants. Then use rpm to find all the files it installed (rpm

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Friday 21 June 2002 14:59 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Unfortunately, you have run into the problem with software that wants to do it all for you and not be aware of the needs for things to be different than originally planned. Strange I've never had a problem with SuSE in this

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread dep
begin Matthew Carpenter's quote: | Perhaps I need a little educating. What is the reason that putting | KDE in /opt makes life any easier? for this we must consult the fhs. it specifies that when kde is put into /usr or /usr/local, then the files must be spread out over that directory.

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Ok. What I'm trying to accomplish (eventually) is to have one interface that is for the LAN where I can be less uptight about security. And a 2nd that will be well secured and intended to receive inbound requests from the big Internet. The addr of the 2nd will be in the router as the one to

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread dep
begin Bruce Marshall's quote: | I've never had it touch my changes one of its favorites is, when one indulges in the time-honored practice of opening /etc/inittab in an editor and changing the default runlevel from 5 to 3, changing it back the next time you run yast2. which is

Re: Anti-Spam

2002-06-21 Thread Alan Jackson
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:34:42 -0400 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Spamassassin. Me too... 8-) If you are a perl programmer it is especially nice, since you can easily hack it. I use it in conjunction with my hacked version of Mail::Agent - I do a lot of stuff with my

Re: kernel modules

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Bill Davidson wrote: Alright. Now I've done it. I needed to rebuild my kernel after-all, and I didn't make a backup of my working kernel(1 of my finer brain-dead moments). I ran 'make modules install' instead of 'make modules_install'. I ran make modules_install

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Michael Hipp wrote: Thanks Net Llama! no problem. I corrected a problem of wrong gateway and now am down to this (route -n): Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUseIface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0

Re: IBM's ThinkPad-Linux support project being dropped

2002-06-21 Thread Susan Macchia
While I agree w/ Lonni in principle (its about choice and multiple desktops can serve the needs of differing markets IMHO), and don't hate KDE I want to add that not *all* desktop users are gamers. I beg to differ in a BIG way. For example I have worked for 2 different companies (with THOUSANDS

Re: kernel modules

2002-06-21 Thread Bill Davidson
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Bill Davidson wrote: Alright. Now I've done it. I needed to rebuild my kernel after-all, and I didn't make a backup of my working kernel(1 of my finer brain-dead moments). I ran 'make

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Matthew, Is it just an impossibility to have 2 adapters on 1 subnet? Thanks, Michael On Friday 21 June 2002 02:02 pm, Matthew Carpenter wrote: You, you fix this by having only one adaptor per subnet. If you really want to have the box dually-connected, plug each interface into a different

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread David A. Bandel
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:28:47 -0500 begin Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: Matthew, Is it just an impossibility to have 2 adapters on 1 subnet? No, but why would you do that? If you need failover, there are better ways to do it. [snip] Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the

Re: Clueless Network Prob

2002-06-21 Thread Michael Hipp
Not looking for failover. Looking for 1 machine, 2 personalities: - 1st port that has numerous services and not tightly locked down. - 2nd port would have only 1-2 ports open and tightly secured. 1st port not visible to outside world. 2nd port visible to outside world. If there is a better

Re: Overriding SuSe Defaults.

2002-06-21 Thread Jack Berger
Another one of YAST2's favorites is to re-write /etc/hosts to what it thinks it should be each time it runs. This caused me no end of frustration in trying to figure out how to get pppd running on a system set up w/a nic. YAST 2 insists on writing the hostname/IP address into the hosts file if

xine vanishes

2002-06-21 Thread Keith Antoine
I access xine and it flashes up onscreen and then vanishes. If I call it from a terminal: This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.11 (c) 2000-2002 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team. Built with xine library 0.9.11 [Sat 22 Jun 2002 09:39:46]-[gcc version 2.95.2 19 991024

Re: Telephone Answer Machine for Linux

2002-06-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Back when I had a phone modem, I used mgetty and was very pleased with it. Joel On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 06:23:18PM -0300, Federico Voges wrote: Hi, I have an old ZyXEL U1496E voice+fax+modem and I want to use it as a TAM with Linux. I'd like to be able to do some scripting with it

Re: xine vanishes

2002-06-21 Thread Net Llama!
Keith Antoine wrote: It appears that the alsa sound is not operative but it is installed, has anyone else got this problem or seen it. Something was said re arts has to be stopped, but how? rpm -e kde* -- ~ L. Friedman

Re: Telephone Answer Machine for Linux

2002-06-21 Thread Alan Jackson
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:23:18 -0300 Federico Voges [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have an old ZyXEL U1496E voice+fax+modem and I want to use it as a TAM with Linux. I'd like to be able to do some scripting with it (convert messages to mp3 and send them via email, multiple mailboxes,

Re: xine vanishes

2002-06-21 Thread Myles Green
On June 21, 2002 07:55 pm, Net Llama! wrote: Keith Antoine wrote: It appears that the alsa sound is not operative but it is installed, has anyone else got this problem or seen it. Something was said re arts has to be stopped, but how? rpm -e kde* Muahahahhahaha -- Myles Green Calgary

Hardare RAID (0+1) and Linux (Slackware 8.1).

2002-06-21 Thread Myles Green
I'm trying to set up a server to replace the system currently hosting my mirror of linux-sxs.org and have run into a problem that currently has me stumped. Here's a list of the hardware invloved: Case - Chieftech 26 full tower MoBo - Shuttle AK35GT2R w/ onboard HighPoint 370/372 RAID controler

Re: Hardare RAID (0+1) and Linux (Slackware 8.1).

2002-06-21 Thread Federico Voges
Hi, AFAIK the only REAL hardware RAID for IDE are the 3ware controllers. I have one Soyo MoBo with an HPT370 (RAID 0/1/0+1) and an Intel MoBo with a Promise FastTrack 100. I'd sugest that you buy another cheap ATA100/133 controller (ie: CMD649 chipset) and make a RAID5 array with the disks

Re: Still the best...

2002-06-21 Thread Shawn L Johnston
On Friday 21 June 2002 01:16 pm, you wrote: I agree with you ideally. I (and many others) have been suggesting the creation of a base distro for some time. It just makes sense. One of the greatest likes about Caldera is the ease of installation. I grit my teath in anger every time I read

OT IBM Linux animations

2002-06-21 Thread Pam R
Just came across this selection of amusing penguin animations, mostly in Flash. http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/fun/ Pam -- Tony Blair and Bill Gates are my heroes. ___ Linux-users mailing list -

Re: xine vanishes

2002-06-21 Thread Keith Antoine
On Saturday 22 June 2002 11:55 am, Net Llama! enshrined in prose: Keith Antoine wrote: It appears that the alsa sound is not operative but it is installed, has anyone else got this problem or seen it. Something was said re arts has to be stopped, but how? rpm -e kde* Will that stop and