I downloaded the iso directly from ftp.iso.caldera.com (without
registration on the webpage).
It seems that the installation process willl always access the network
(after knowing that the cdrom has the files)and it would abort the
installatio process for an unknown reason.
must I register my
what's the command? the english user guide give examples for all fs
except xfs.
> Create a linux partition, and format for xfs.
take a look at the user guide yourself. :)
the step after creating the 3 minimum partitions.
> No more dangerous than any other command you run as root. Why would you
thanks
>> is it possible to place a link for db.html (compiling berneley db-4.x)
>> in section "database"? that makes sense, I believe. :)
> sure. I'll do that.
if the procedure is proven, it'll help those that want DIY.
I finally reached the point where compiling a new package will produce
Tim'
I barely remembere that the moment you rpm -e sshd, your last openssh
session would be killed./
stayler wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:00:26 +0800, m.w.chang wrote:
while sshd is active, can one rpm -e openssh and use checkinstall?
That I can't say. Since I went over to Slackware, I&#x
it's the 1.4 rc2 686 LiveCD
just downloaded the gentoo 1.4rc2 LiveCD.
the installation guide didn't mention how to create a xfs root
partition. what should I do to use xfs?
btw, the step of using dd to clean the first 1k of partition could be
dangerous, isn't it? a wrong output device will ren
vnc or tight vnc need the xfree86 right?
is there a console mode tool?
Wil McGilvery wrote:
> I use tight VNC and it will do what you want. Tight VNC has several good options for
>use over slow connections.
>
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someone boasted how he used a nokia phoen to remote login a linux
server. how about using the mobile phone's voice reconigtion capability?
Joel Hammer wrote:
> I would like to have a linux computer be able to respond to simple voice
> commands. For example, to words like menu, action or cancel and
yes. `rpm -q --whatrequires openssl` said so.
stayler wrote:
> mod_ssl will need to be redone if memory serves
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my telnet is set to work on LAN only (not over the internet). just in
case but if I cuold use openssh only, I would rpm -e the telnet daemon.
the only hussles is the key. I have to figure out a way to let me access
my private key anywhere in the internet when I need it.
Net Llama! wrote:
> We
while sshd is active, can one rpm -e openssh and use checkinstall?
stayler wrote:
> Done it a couple times. Just cron a restart of sshd for a few minutes
> later then kill sshd after the make install, plus editing of
> sshd_config of course...
>
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how could one upgrade openssh if openssh is the only remote shell
available on a linux server? I always fell back to telnet when I needed
to update openssh.
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2 more: wget and lynx
m.w.chang wrote:
> just learnt that. a power failure yesterday night forced me to reboot
> the linux server, and sshd refused to run. had to recompile it.
> so far, I had recompiled: proftpd, fetchmail, openssh, bind.
> I think sendmail would have been affected i
is it possible to place a link for db.html (compiling berneley db-4.x)
in section "database"? that makes sense, I believe. :)
right now, it's listed only as a part of sendmail_antispam.
also, the gcc_notes was not listed under any section... if I didn't miss it.
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just learnt that. a power failure yesterday night forced me to reboot
the linux server, and sshd refused to run. had to recompile it.
so far, I had recompiled: proftpd, fetchmail, openssh, bind.
I think sendmail would have been affected if I used ssl login.
let me check apache...
Net Llama! wrote
how would openpkg help resolve the version dependency problems?
Bill Campbell wrote:
I'm looking very seriously at moving all of our customization and local
additions to work under the openpkg package manager. This allows one to
work without changing the vendor's stuff at all, and is supported o
that means i have to recompile all programs that depends on openssl?
doh... maybe I should stay with the symlink solution for a while...
> Building static binaries should be avoided unless you have a really good
> reason. They're an order of magnitude larger, and less efficient. I
> wouldn't
Saw this question in hkpucg.linux.
how could you create a console session such that both the remote and
local users can see the same screen and keyboard? kind of like the
whiteboard in netmeeting.
The guy said you could do that easily with SCO Unix.
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you meant when builing those packages (like bind in my example),
I needed to use the --option to force static library build?
can I make bind to refer to libcrypto.so rather than libcrypto.so.x.y.z
where x.y.z is the version?
in the meantime, I am using symbol link.
>> dig: error while loading sh
i upgraded my openssl to 0.9.7 and suddenly, many packages complained
about missing libcrypto.so.0.9.6.
hwo could I compile those packages such that they would not refer to the
version of the libcrypto to be used?
--with-ssl=/usr/ssl
--openssldir=/usr/ssl
are these options the source of pro
after updating my openssl to 0.9.7, many packges that were compiled by
myself was broken.
dig: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.6: cannot
load share d object file: No such file or directory
It seems that I used the wrong method to compile them, which made them
to be versi
that should have been "joyful" rather than "joyous".
Same to you. May the force and farce be with you. :P
> Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year.
>
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I remembered another term for your "TIA" phrase:
Entropy of information
> Total Information Awareness! Is this off topic?
>
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are you sure about this? it's in the source codes? I suppose any normal
kernel would suggest scream for help and halted if not gracefully
shutting down the system. I suppose you were joking. :)
> All recent 2.4.x kernels consume physical memory before going to swap.
> That said, completely disabli
or you may just buy a better heatsink. heat is alwaya a problem of AMD
CPU, in additional to stability problem with VIA chipsets.
Running with a new Duron 1GHz and I'm (so far) stable as can be. Granted, I've
only been testing it for a couple hours, but the XFree86-4.2.1 SRPMs built
fine. I res
by default, does sendmail accept email address with non-printable
characters (8-bit characters)?
if not, could I set sendmail.cf (or better, m4 run from config.mc) to
accept them?
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roger that. I wanted to take the chance to make use of the knoopix 3.1
beta...
can I just do it with an empty partition + knoppix cd?
boot knnoppix,
mount / (hda9) to /mnt/tmp
backup to empty partition
umount /
format hda9 into xfs
restore data from empty partition usin cp -a
edit /etc/fstab
reb
what's the easiest way to convert the / mount point to xfs?
can I just do it with an empty partition + knoppix cd?
boot knnoppix,
mount / (hda9) to /mnt/tmp
backup to empty partition
umount /
format hda9 into xfs
restore data from empty partition usin cp -a
edit /etc/fstab
reboot
[EMAIL PROTECTE
you can, but you may not have the time..
Net Llama! wrote:
> I dont' have the resources or the knowledge to arrange such an event.
>
> On 12/17/02 23:38, m.w.chang wrote:
>> if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing
>> xfree86+winex (from tar-balls),
I want to try a free-of-charge solution. HEHE...
> Transgaming makes RPMs available to subscribers, which installed quite nicely
> on SuSE 8.1
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it's the 0.13 micro process, using FCPGA2 packaging.
Also covers the socket-478 Celerons.
> The P3 and Celerons over 1Ghz are of this type, IIRC
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if Mr. Llama could arrange an online webcaset of installing
xfree86+winex (from tar-balls), it will be nice... I think it could be a
really big event...
m.w.chang wrote:
> I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_-
> anyone got a step-by-step?
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I knew that (I did the search,too), but how .. -_-
anyone got a step-by-step?
I can do xfree86+icewm myself,
but wine and 3d driver setup
and those il8n and font stuffs... daunting...
Net Llama! wrote:
> Then throw away your windoze box(es), cause both work with wine. or at
> least that's
I wanted to keep playing diablo2 and counter-strike on the linux
workstation, if I could manage xfree86 and wine(x). When that happens, I
could run away from Window$ foreever.
Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> Yeah, I'd say it's beyond me as well... I have a Diamond Viper330... How
> do I even KNOW if
I saw a package called "pammount" in freshmeat.net
search there for "pam mount"
Collins wrote:
> I've created a separate partition for my daughter's mp3 collection,
> and this is mounted via fstab to /home/cecilia/mp3.
>
> The only problem is, she can't created new directories. Each time I
> hav
I hope an expert in wine/winex/xfree86 in this mailing list will write a
sxs article on "directx/opengl games on linux". It's beyond me...
Matthew Carpenter wrote:
> I did check Google first but haven't been able to find a whole lot of
> recent information. I skimmed that listing but will read it
copy that...
> % >http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/utils/gcc_notes
>
> use a seperate build dir (gcc_build)
>
> gcc >= 3.0:
> ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
>--with-slibdir=/lib --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu
> make bootstra
that's because most linux games hadn't pushed the limit. Try soemthing
like Ghost Recon or Battlefield 1942 (if not the upcoming DOOM3).
Nayway, if you don't allow games in computers, P4 is an overkill at its
current price.
> Should be fine with recent 2.4.x kernels (EHCI), not the box on the
> w
is the notes accessible from the sidebar on the webpage? I culdn't quite
find it...
Douglas J Hunley wrote:
Is there a howto or other easy to follow instructions for linux for
installing gcc?
http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/utils/gcc_notes
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been there. someone told me that bash -r is not safe at all. And you
cannot use cd under all circumstances, even within the restricted shell.
Jim Bonnet wrote:
> m.w.chang wrote:
>> someone from hkpcug.linux suggested this one for me:
>> http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~assman/jail/
someone from hkpcug.linux suggested this one for me:
http://www.gsyc.inf.uc3m.es/~assman/jail/
but... hmm.. it's a bit complicated. I'd expect a simpler solution,
seomthing that would be covered by linuxjournal.
Federico Voges wrote:
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>>is there a
(11th Dec, 2002) Samba 2.2.7a released
This is the latest in the Samba 2.2 stable releases. This release is
primarily to correct issues with Samba's large file support. However,
there are a few other minor bugs fixes as well. The complete Release
Notes are available on-line. The source tarball
is there an easy-to-fllow tutorial or sxs that teaches linux newbie how
to setup one? I saw many people asking about it actually.
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I did, and there was nothing wrong with the compilation process. just
that during make install, the libpthread had error. It was COL 3.1,
fresh-install (purely for testing the upgrade procedure). I would need
to try again this weekend to post the insatll error (hopefully, before
everyone forgot and
ok. will try again this x'mas eve... ho..ho..ho...
Net Llama! wrote:
> That someone was me, and that was an anomaly of some sort. I've never had
> problems outside of that one box.
>> in the last few days, I have seen someone mentioning a problem with
>> symlink to libcs.so.5 or something. does i
in the last few days, I have seen someone mentioning a problem with
symlink to libcs.so.5 or something. does it mean an extra step to clear
all symlinks before buidling glibc?
my last trial (on a fresh-install COL 3.1) was a failure.I could't
compile a thing after the upgrade procedure.
Net Llama
see you, military police?
>
> No doubt for the same reason that somebody would want mpcu.com. Go fig?
>
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this website looks good for beginners in linux. Maybe a bit boring for
experts :)
http://new.linuxnow.com/tutorial/preface.html
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mozilla and netsacpe have been my favorite web appliance. They had never
failed me... if mozilla can start stealing jobs from M$ IE... :)
BTW, mozilla 1.2.1 is great, and I've even got plugins to work. So I
don't need galeon or skipstone or any of the other alternatives. Also
mozilla has finall
is it the same as this one?
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0208.2/1275.html
David A. Bandel wrote:
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begin Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed forth:
Andrew Morton (by way of Douglas J Hunley ) wr
looks more like another national security measure. don't think you could
stop it...
Jay Sulzberger (by way of Douglas J Hunley ) wrote:
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Coders! Designers! Artists! Businessfolk!
Computer Owners!
User-Builders of the Net!
Citizens!
Why is it imp
what's wrong with mozilla (other than habbits :)?
Lee wrote:
> Thanks a lot guys turned on HTML in Kmail and problem solved. I guess using
> Netscape made me kind of lazy in that communator did most of the work and I
> uused Kmail as only a back up. Now without netscape I have to learn to set
>
anyone read the ftp-proxy article in november issue of linux journal?
do I need that with the capabilities of proftpd? I don't find any thing
special... that thing is more suitable for wu-ftpd.
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does it apply to everything? how about those that uses dynamic
libraries? I was unable to update libstdc++. If I keep the old one,
everyting will still work fine??
I am quite onfused by the library (not DLL) hell. I built libraries for
Foxpro applications. But whenever the Foxpro was upgrade, eve
can you correct me? I knew you knew what I was actually talking about.. :)
Net Llama! wrote:
errr...what's a "2.95.3 library"??
On 12/03/02 18:05, m.w.chang wrote:
yes, but what about all those 2.95.3 libaries? can 3.2.1 gcc binaries
work with older 2.95.3 gcc librarise? I hear
you meant if I install gcc-3.2.1 to my COL 3.1, recompile *JUST* the
proftpd daemon, and it would work without problem?
maybe my example is too easy... but I am no gcc expert.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:05:39AM +0800, m.w.chang wrote:
yes, but what about all those
the stuffs in COL 3.1
m.w.chang wrote:
can you correct me? I knew you knew what I was actually talking about.. :)
errr...what's a "2.95.3 library"??
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hmm.. this one is what i needdd when I need to use my ISP's smtp as
smart relay for my local sendmail. some ISP's smtp checks the sender
names for existing domains if not the username.
thanks.
> Well, genericstable is for mapping outgoing usernames to the e-mail address so
> that mail that I sen
and make sure that you are using the right aliases file
is it /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases?
Bill Day wrote:
> Should be, that and runing newaliases afterwards (im most certain but its
> been awhile since I ran sendmail)
>
>> I'm using sendmail that came with RH 8, 8.12.5, and kmail 1.4.3 (K
yes, but what about all those 2.95.3 libaries? can 3.2.1 gcc binaries
work with older 2.95.3 gcc librarise? I heard that 3.2.x is *not*
downward compatible. You have to go all the away...
> I compiled it on an old desktop running OpenLinux 3.1.1. Well... it works.
> Compiled binaries are a bit lar
they are still bombing my email account using a non-ascii name as the
mailbox name...annoying... there must be a fetchmail solution... and I
failed to notice it in the doc...
m.w.chang wrote:
done.
is there a fetchmail option to force-get the messages... the china guys
are quite mad about
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done.
is there a fetchmail option to force-get the messages... the china guys
are quite mad about chinese names... :)
Joel Hammer wrote:
> If you feel adventuresome, you might telnet to your pop3 server, and try to
> delete the file manually. (telnet server 110.)
> Joel
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doh... I have my /var using ext3 now... I guess my /var/cache/squid will
be having problem on the next power failture...
Net Llama! wrote:
> Another great reason to be using XFS. ext3 is starting to look more &
> more like a toy FS.
>
> On 12/01/02 19:21, kwa
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why not fix the unmount commands? make ti to do a sync;sync;sync always.
> In data=journal mode the data is left dirty in memory and the unmount
> will silently discard it.
> -
>
> A posted patch didn't fix the problem. So, don't use "data=journal"
> mode. The default is "data=ordered" mode,
28:38 +0800
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Subject: ?Äã?Ѫ±¼ÌÚµÄÍøÕ¾
Sender: ¿í´ø¾«Æ·µçÓ°**@[61.149.10.148]
m.w.chang wrote:
> I found this in the error log. can I (the receiver) resolve it? Seems
> that it's more like a problem with the pop3 mail server
>
>
> Dec
I found this in the error log. can I (the receiver) resolve it? Seems
that it's more like a problem with the pop3 mail server
Dec 1 00:30:22 server fetchmail[3587]: SMTP error: 501 5.1.7 Syntax
error in mailbox address "**@[61.149.10.148]" (non-printable
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I hope so.. still trynig to quit those 199x computer-games on wintendo
though some of them are available in linux (like counter-strike).
Games and other people's interest in M$ tools are the only reason for me
to stay in Win$...
gee... mozilla-1.2 is still a bit slow on dealing with large mess
I upgraded it and the realtek card no longer reported about
initialization error during boot up.
gee... mozilla-1.2 is still a bit slow on dealing with large message,
notably in deleting quotad messages
Sys Admin wrote:
After 116 days, Marcelo seems to have released 2.4.20
final:
- 2.4.20-rc4
it's rm, not rmdir.. lucky blaster
but if you rm -f / ...hmm.. welll... not yet catastropic.
try rm -rf / ...hohoho...
> rm: '/' is a directory
>
> well knock me out.
>
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yes. doing that in the office.. yesterday's nightly was a bomb. the exe
(window build) didn't even work. the baysian spam filter... I love the
word baysian. Long lost my meory of queuing theories.. :)
Tim Wunder wrote:
Ahh, but the real fun is trying the latest trunk builds with new features suc
http://www.mozilla.org/release
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you aren't exactly M$ free. you still got an umbilical chord to
Exchange. Until you replaced it with a native linux groupware solution ,
you are not M$-free. And upgrade to M$ exchange.NET will wrack everything.
> Anyway, my latest client has Outlook98/Exchange as a groupware solution and
> I wa
a cd burning software for Window$. last version was 4.0. haven't seen
update since then. Nero should be the final winner.
>> cue+bin (cdrwin?). is there project for those formats?
> ISO. WTF is cdrwin?
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still not comparable to a loopback mount (like Stacker).
I wonder whether it's possble to mount Stacker vol on ilnux. we only
need the stacker filesystem filter. :)
>> but there is no filesystem for rar, rpm, or nrg (nero burning rom) and
>> cue+bin (cdrwin?). is there project for those formats?
yes, that's how we did it with iso.
but there is no filesystem for rar, rpm, or nrg (nero burning rom) and
cue+bin (cdrwin?). is there project for those formats?
This thing reminded me of an old DOS product called Stacker. It merely
mounted the stacker engine over a loopback device and created a
we all knew how to mount an iso cd image file.
i wonder whether it's possible to mount other formats: nrg and cue+bin
under linux. how about tar.gz, tar, rpm, rar and zip? something like
winrar 3.0 for Win$ is doing, but via a linux amount point.
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there is a tightvnc for speed
http//www.tightvnc.org (use google.com if my url is wrong)
Jerry McBride wrote:
> So sorry, guys wrong support group.
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and there is no free NFS clients for window$? if there is a client for
WIndows, I could drop samba,
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> Depends. With windows machines you need Samba (unless they have NFS
> installed which most don't). NFS is nice for unix/linux to unix/linux but
> there are security issu
you can possibly skip that step. certain steps in Mr. Parker's article
could be ignored. I got my dial-in pppd server working without doing
everything on the steps.
> ls -al of /usr/sbin/pppd (or /sbin/pppd) should look like this:
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they are not what my teacher called BBC english. I am not an expert in
english langauge. but the 3 examples you quoted are also American. I
guess the Americans are less concerned about certain grammars than the
native English in England.
Richard Thompson wrote:
If you're looking for confusing,
I guess you knew a lot of JPL experts, and Vulcan and dBase...
Dude, I grew up in Huntsville. Lived there for 20+ years. My dad was
a rocket scientist with GE back in the heyday of the space program.
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"go shopping" comes from american English.
The Brits will say "go to shop" or just "shop"
For swedish or chinese, that's indeed confusion.
but given the popularity of american movies, ..
Perhaps, but look at this: "I am going to the church" emphasizes a
particular church *building*, while "I am
I got a 404 when I hit the ilnk.
ronnie gauthier wrote:
> MS announces another security flaw. Guess there have been so many that
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/bixtech/11/21/microsoft.security.ap/index.html
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I had no problem with that word as well as its sound, but there are
always villages/nations that train people/officers to react violently to
those that used the freaking word.
A different kind of Taliban, I believe.
I see no difference between:
1. Fxck you
2. Screw you (with whatever organic or
and a disarmed linux is the car.
>
> don't we enjoy fooling around without worrying about parking and
> retrieving your car?
>
>
>
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I think it could happen if
1. all cars cannot go beyond 50 km/hr
2. all cars were cloned agianst the same look and design
3. no av or luxurious equipments
don't we enjoy fooling around without worrying about parking and
retrieving your car?
> Congrats. You *did* disable all the built in security
sorry. many typo in the messages:
"save you from"
> note that system crashes may have nothing to do with securiyt, but lousy
> coding and programming. security won't safe you a endless loop or a
> deadlock.
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Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux we trust.
we all know that programs can create bugs, and bugs can bring about more
programs which feed back into the start of the problem. this is
business... :)
> Although many people bemoan MS's dominance, there is much to learn from this
> state of affairs. And, I think that this situation opens up busin
On the trip back to my office from my lunch today, in one big bookstore
(http://www.jointpublishing.com), I saw a blue Taiwan chinese book
called "Redhat 8 Installation". It's just HK$ 78, with 3 FedHat 8
Binaries CD. It's possibly not very different from SCO Linux 4.
(SCO didn't even want anyone
Speaking as a biology student, fuck is just a different way of saying
"place a penx into the vagxna". It's just a voice of difference.
The main point is *NOT* whether the word is dirty. NO voice or word is
dirty.
The problem the *FREQUENCY* of using those words. Do you always talk
about screwing
I only knew Latin is an IMPORTANT language in biology and medicine (and
I was a Biology student). I believe any further study into the field of
western medicine requires a good command of Latin. And be a real good
drug makers, you need to learn chinese as well.
> Latin is one language I read flue
she's merelly boasting her ability to create jokes out of languages and
reality. :)
> As my wife, who is not a native English-speaker says, "English is sure a
> f**ked up language. You say you are "going to the store," but you are
> also "going to church." You go shopping, but you don't go eatin
read october issue of linux journal. the column by Mr. David Bandel. :)
I wonder whether there one such steaming relay server for TV signal.
>>You wouldn't know a site where I can download a linux radio station
>>automation program? Would you?
> Now that's a segue.
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comrade, root is a user, too.
while they have differences, a baby don't learn martial arts until
he/she could balance, walk, jump, and run. sxs -> step-by-step. and that
sex should starts with the origin, ie zero.
But he objects to the distinction between user and root (that's a
security featu
I learnt my english while Hongkong was still a british colony (ok, she's
called United Kingdoms now). You sure that it's "its" not "her"? Is that
how United Nations described other nations?
And, finally, while I'm ranting, the proper pronoun is "its," not
"her." As in, "Then every government ca
hmm.. this can be a national security issue for US expatriates in Asia. :P
m.w.chang wrote:
some caches are not under our control. you can do nothing about them
except waiting.
Same here. I see the same exact page that i saw 24 hours ago.
Did you guys refresh / reload the page? because there
hmm.. wonder if the weapon control system is using a disarmed linux for
speed and size ...
m.w.chang wrote:
you meant the one that's just released by the US Military, that farts
nails onto the road and coughs with shock grenades, and lined with
electrical skins?
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strangely, I never got enough crash at my DOS PC back then. I write
foxpro programs back then.
note that system crashes may have nothing to do with securiyt, but lousy
coding and programming. security won't safe you a endless loop or a
deadlock.
This reminds me of beginning cryptology classes
you meant the one that's just released by the US Military, that farts
nails onto the road and coughs with shock grenades, and lined with
electrical skins?
ronnie gauthier wrote:
> I've never owned a car either. But ask me about the trucks I've owned.
Wow. Rough day in the 'burgh? ;)
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