On 08/24/03 13:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe.
Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are
orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if
linux catches on. Remember that Caldera
On 08/24/03 08:14, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Shannon Scott:
Kurt,
I received this message, but you sent it to someone else.
How does that happen?
Take Care
Shannon
I BCCed the linux-users mailing list when sending this message
to my friend (I meant to CC the list). I have *no* idea what
happened
The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of PC
users that will run the thing :-(
On Sunday 24 August 2003 4:50 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb
wrote:
If you are crazy enough to run it G please let us know what it infects
you with G.
Ian Stephen
Hi Folks,
I have a small home network with the following setup.
8port Switch
RH9 8139too NIC---10/100---VIA Embedded NIC WinXP
I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I
can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max on a good day.
running ethtool on the RH9
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:34:05 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands,
of PC users that will run the thing :-(
And even sadder there are hundreds of thousands of users that are
subject to the script kiddies of the world
On 08/24/03 16:48, James McDonald wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have a small home network with the following setup.
8port Switch
RH9 8139too NIC---10/100---VIA Embedded NIC WinXP
I have absolutely hopeless data transfer both ways using samba and ftp. I
can only get approx ~2.6MB/s max
On 08/24/03 17:00, Collins Richey wrote:
And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and
refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product.
work with linux?? What exactly does that mean, seeing as how linux isn't
a company, or a person that can be worked
Any suggestions why it's so damn slow or how to trouble-shoot the
issue?
Any packet loss? Any errors in ifconfig output? Anything showing up in
dmesg or messages? What does 'mii-tool eth0' show?
Thanks netl
ifconfig eth0 on that interface showed no TX errors but over 300RX errors
I
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe.
Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are
orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if
linux catches on.
Yes, that's the sad thing about it - they will see MS in the message and
figure it's really from MS.
Tim Wunder wrote:
The sad thing is... there are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of
PC users that will run the thing :-(
On Sunday 24 August 2003 4:50 pm, someone claiming to be
That 8 port hub, is it a straight 10Mbps? That'll do it to ya every time.
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:54:09 -0700 - Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
the following
Re: Re: Network Card Driving Miss Daisy
On 08/24/03 16:48, James McDonald wrote:
Hi Folks,
I have a small home network with the
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:27, Net Llama! wrote:
Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise M$, yet
fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a two fronted war
at the moment, so they're riding the fence.
I work a lot with Sun (but these opinions are
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 20:45, burns wrote:
big snip
Sorry to follow my own post, but forgot to include these additional
links - if you think that Sun is playing footsie with MS (or SCO), check
these out:
http://www.sun.com/executives/perspectives/re-town.html
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Net Llama! wrote:
On 08/24/03 13:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe.
Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are
orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO with _LOTS_ to lose if
On 08/24/03 17:45, burns wrote:
Sun is now offering Linux systems. Sun is also allying with Linux and
incorporating Linux elements in its forthcoming Sun business/corporate
desktop - the one that Sun hopes will squeeze market share from
Microsoft W2k and XP. From sun.com:
Project Mad Hatter's
On 24 Aug 2003 20:17:11 -0400
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:57, Net Llama! wrote:
work with linux?? What exactly does that mean, seeing as how
linux isn't a company, or a person that can be worked with.
I think the context was to work with 'Linux software' as
Well, I will attempt to bring a freah bit of air here. I have a friend,
ok ok no jokes hereg, and he is using M$sludge XP. Everytime he adds something,
software or hardware, he has problems. He is so scared to touch the machine.
DADAFDADADA Linux to the rescue, I make be able to get him
On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 19:27, Net Llama! wrote:
Sun is between a rock and a hard place right now, as they despise
M$, yet fear Linux. They're not sure whether they want to fight a
two fronted war at the moment, so they're
Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of
RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm
not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first
upgrade to RH8, and then RH9? Also, has anyone used the (un)official XFS
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Collins Richey wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:06:39 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 08/24/03 17:45, burns wrote:
enables users to set up four different work spaces. (Does this look
familiar?
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:27:39 -0500
Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I will attempt to bring a freah bit of air here. I have a
friend, ok ok no jokes hereg, and he is using M$sludge XP. Everytime
he adds something, software or hardware, he has problems. He is so
scared to touch
I'm still working on this area of knowledge myself, but isn't this where Transcode
comes into play?
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:58:43 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bonjour, List,
Can anyone recommend a tool, preferably CLI, for converting
AVIs to (something else)?
Thanks,
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:59, Collins Richey wrote:
Any company large enough to consider IBM Z series mainframes is going to
think twice about the headaches of running a traditional server farm of
unix or linux boxes. The simplicities of scaling up processing power
as needed and the ability
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote:
Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of
RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm
not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to first
upgrade to RH8, and then RH9?
Xine typically has a hard time auto-configuring the correct audio library, especially
between Artsd and Alsa (SuSE's main 2). If you only install the correct audio
components (from packman.links2linux.de you can download each sound component as a
separate RPM, as well as many others) I've
Logs.. Good..
Errors.. Bad..
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:23:53 -0700
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you checked any logs to see if there are errors? Are there any
ipchain/ipfilter rules in place? Can you ssh to the box during the times
that it can't see the outside world? How
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:00:14 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:
And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and
refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product.
I'll tell you why right now.
No markup on free software, also the Linux
You could use transcode, but its prolly overkill unless you're looking to
do something really complex in the conversion process. mencoder is far easier.
On 08/24/03 20:23, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
I'm still working on this area of knowledge myself, but isn't this where Transcode comes into
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003, Shawn Tayler wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:00:14 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:
And saddest of all, 99% of all vendors still support this crap and
refuse to work with linux to make a safe and sound, easy to use product.
I'll tell you why right now.
No
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there was a
contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter but their
site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked?
Again.
Kurt
--
I'd love to go out with you, but I'm doing door-to-door
Bill Campbell wrote:
the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in
licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the company
went out of business.
ouch!
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I don't think people use Microsoft because they like it. Most people use it, because
'everyone else does' and therefore is a safe choice.
I really think the biggest reason is the choice of software. When more software like
ACT, goldmine, AutoCAD and Adobe products etc, etc, make their way to a
I've seen many discussions on the pros and cons of ``real routers'' and
those based on Linux or one of the *BSD systems. This article puts an
interesting light on the subject (particularly if the vendor happened to be
using an embedded Linux :-).
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:15:00 -0400
Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would seem likely to me that your ext2 data is NOT protected from
Windows virii. What keeps linux safe from that is linux, not ext2. If Win
has access to the data, the virii have access to the data. If you want to
be
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:33:08 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Hipp wrote:
Is it stable enough for everyday use?
Michael
I went back to mozilla because thunderbird didn't launch links in email...
Go to the tools window in MT, and get the MozEx extension. These
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:55:48 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:25:10 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:31:52 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 21 Aug 2003 22:18:38 -0400
burns [EMAIL
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24 Aug 2003 20:14:38 -0400
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 16:02, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
My guess is that they are not as involved as we would like to believe.
Much as SCO's blathering is to the benefit of M$, I don't think they are
orchestrating it. Sun is also a backer of SCO
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:33:08 +1000
James McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Hipp wrote:
Is it stable enough for everyday use?
Michael
I went back to mozilla because thunderbird didn't launch links in email...
Go to the tools window in MT, and
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in
licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the
company went out of business.
ouch!
Same thing has happened here in
I condigured KDE to use Firebird as the default browser, but if I clicked on
multiple links in K-Mail, I was getting prompted for a profile to use. So I
had to close the already opened Firebird to open the new link. Someone on
comp.windows.x.kde (Dennis Hansen) posted a wrapper script to get
After 72 days, Marcelo seems to have released 2.4.22
final:
- 2.4.22-rc4 was released as 2.4.22 with no changes.
Summary of changes from v2.4.22-rc3 to v2.4.22-rc4
marcelo:logos.cnet:
o Fix drivers/net/Config.in - CONFIG_TC35815
o Changed
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, burns wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote:
Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew of
RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS, however i'm
not clear on whether I can jump straight to RH9, or do I have to
Ken Moffat wrote:
Is there some advantage over Mozilla, which I'm quite happy with?
I've only converted to it over the last few days, so there is much to
discover yet. Some things I've seen:
- Much prettier UI. Finally breaks away from the mud-fence-ugly Netscape
UI. It will be easier to
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 07:12, David A. Bandel wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:09:18 -0700
Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
the BSA extortionists hit them with about 80 grand in
licensing charges. This was the straw that broke them, and the
company went out
On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there
was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter
but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked?
Again.
Kurt
Still dead
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, David A. Bandel wrote:
...
This is why I run Cyclades cards for routers (Frame Relay). Cheaper,
better, and easier for end users than Cisco.
We use Sangoma cards. They work on Linux and FreeBSD, and their support
has been excellent.
Cyclades screwed me thoroughly,
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 21:08 pm, Joel Hammer wrote:
C'est moi.
Actually, the picture was badly composed. I should have piled up all
three of the lobsters that I ate.
Yes, this was excessive, but, c'est la vie.
Joel
Think I have you beat On a three week trip to Martha's Vineyard and
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there
was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty letter
but their site seems to be down. Maybe they got cracked?
For those of you not following LKML:
- Forwarded message from Marcelo Tosatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
From: Marcelo Tosatti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:48:30 -0700
Subject: linux-2.4.22 released
final:
- 2.4.22-rc4 was released as 2.4.22 with
Well, let's see:
Microsoft benefits by what SCO is doing, but a big part of the origin of
Caldera was a successful lawsuit against them. Also, they had a big chunk
of old SCO and dumped it as worthless--making them look foolish if the
current management has found the magic bullet to kill
Kmail does, indeed, support MIME encoding.
I'm not expert at this, but I'm guessing that you have received an email with
html formatting, rather than ascii formatiing and Kmail is not rendering the
html. If that's the case, then your problem, probably, is that html rendering
is turned off for
Ok, I have successfully loaded SuSe 8.2 on my VAIO Laptop.
USB works great and I bought a USB drive kit.
I have the drive partitioned into to parts, one is a 10GB FAT32
and the other is a 50GB ext3.
Should I use the sync on the fstab on both partitions,
since this is a USB drive?
Thanks ...
--
Quoth Collins Richey:
On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400
Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end
Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a strong
threat.
Underline has not been. This is now changing due to the IBM effort.
Any company large
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:42:13 -0500, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
Well, let's see:
Microsoft benefits by what SCO is doing, but a big part of the origin of
Caldera was a successful lawsuit against them. Also, they had a big chunk
of old SCO and dumped it as worthless--making them look foolish if
For those of you without a high-speed internet connection, as I
reported earlier the current gentoo LiveCD sets will get you up and
going, but if you really want realtively current sources, try the
following uri.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:43:17 -0400
Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:42, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
And they have
also bought SCO licensing that it didn't really look like they need.
When was that and for what?
--
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:11:01 -0400 (EDT)
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, burns wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 22:53, Net Llama! wrote:
Got a question for anyone who's upgraded Redhat. I've got a slew
of RH-7.3-XFS boxen. I'm thinking of upgading them to RH9-XFS,
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:08:36 -0400
Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoth Collins Richey:
On 24 Aug 2003 20:45:45 -0400
Sun views their niche to be a very large share of the mid-high end
Enterprise market. This is not an area where Linux has been a
strong threat.
Underline
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:42:52 -0700
Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen many discussions on the pros and cons of ``real routers''
and those based on Linux or one of the *BSD systems. This article
puts an interesting light on the subject (particularly if the vendor
happened to be
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Collins Richey wrote:
...
Why, send in your licensing fee to SCO for all the stolen IP stuff you
have in your linux boxen, and I'm sure they'll get right back to you.
All the Linux systems we installed prior to January 2003 were
purchased from Caldera/SCO. Perhaps somebody
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:47:53 -0700
Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 24 August 2003 09:09 pm, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Tony Alfrey:
I thought I might dial up the Caldera/SCO website and see if there
was a contact us that I might use to send them all a nasty
letter but their
Sorry to send this to the wrong list the australian sxs mirror.
http://sxs.gotdns.org is down until I copy the files back and create a
virtual host again.
I had a video card failure (fan failed and cooked chip) and then I decided
I would swap some disks around and put the covers back on the box I
Oops. I may have overstated. I guess it's possible SCO might have had
some better drivers for Intel than Sun already was using when they made
this deal.
http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1024633.html
http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/21894.html
At 05:05 PM 8/25/03 -0400, burns wrote:
On Mon,
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:07:54 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't SuSE 8.2 install kernel sources in /usr/src? Is this something you
have to actively select to have installed?
Yes, Roger, you will have to download the latest source rpm and install it. Try
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
Oops. I may have overstated. I guess it's possible SCO might have had
some better drivers for Intel than Sun already was using when they made
this deal.
SCO was one of the prime movers behind the UDI (Universal Driver
Interface) effort before
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