Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-10 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:44:23 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps your sound problems are confusion about earlier settings? No earlier KDE or alsa versions exist on my system. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area Athlon-XP gentoo 1.4_rc2++ system xfce4-cvs

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
My sound is working (Gentoo KDE 3.1), so I cannot help with that. As to .Xdefaults, I do not think KDE uses those. However, regular X apps (meaning not QT) do use this file independent of whatever KDE is up to. There is an option in KDE somewhere that says if KDE should apply look and feel to

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:17:54 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sound is working (Gentoo KDE 3.1), so I cannot help with that. As to .Xdefaults, I do not think KDE uses those. However, regular X apps(meaning not QT) do use this file independent of whatever KDE is up

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Tim Wunder
On Sunday 09 February 2003 5:21 pm, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote: [ snips ] On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:17:54 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sound is working (Gentoo KDE 3.1), so I cannot help with that. As to .Xdefaults, I do not think KDE uses those.

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:25:27 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snipped ] So, other than changing some things (ie tinker with sound), nothing has changed. OK. Obsiously, if nothing was changed under KDE's settings that would affect aterm (or, rather, non-kde apps), then there's

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I understand what you are saying, but Tim has a point. It's no mystery that I'm pretty happy with KDE for most things. It is bloated, but I'm into bloat-balancing. I like the pretty's, the things which presidents, managers and directors love to tinker with which make them try and stick with

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I sure hope it becomes a windows killer. We need one. However, I have some rants on opensource in gengeral shooting itself in the foot while trying to kill windows G but I won't go into them here. However, KDE has to become easier to install and maintain before it is a windows killer.

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:29:35 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snipped ] That said, one thing I'm intrigued about is the upcoming enhancements paid for by the German government. Apparently KDE 3.1 or 3.2 is supposed to have an Outlook-like PIM and some back-end stuff.

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Tim Wunder
On Sunday 09 February 2003 7:48 pm, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:25:27 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snipped ] So, other than changing some things (ie tinker with sound), nothing has changed. OK. Obsiously, if nothing was changed under

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 15:21:53 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snips ] On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:17:54 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sound is working (Gentoo KDE 3.1), so I cannot help with that. As to .Xdefaults, I do not think KDE uses those. However,

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:29:35 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're looking for a great tool and I understand that... I'm looking for a Windows Killer. KDE so far seems to be the closest thing for Linux at this point. flame-guard-up I also wonder at the current attempt

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-09 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:36:51 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:29:35 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snipped ] That said, one thing I'm intrigued about is the upcoming enhancements paid for by the German government. Apparently KDE

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Tell us it isn't so G!!! I read the release hype, er I mean changelog and almost did the same thing but then remembered why I left it and that I didn't need that hassle G. I haven't used it since 2.2.1 so I can't be much help. 1. Under 2.2.1 you went to Settings -configure kmail and used the

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Wunder
Man, you anti-KDE guys kill me. You haven't used KDE since 2.2.1, yet you're willing to speak on how bad it is? FYI 2.2.1 was released Spetember 19, 2001 (http://www.kde.org/info/2.2.1.html), yes 2001! That's, um, a while ago... I assume I don't need to tell you how long 16 months is in

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
No, I'm not anti-KDE - I just don't want to use it -. nor did I speak against it - I simply said I read the changes and remembered why I didn't want to use it. Any one who wants to use it is welcome - and I did try and give the man some help. As it stands I abandoned KDE for many reasons.

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Dr. Jones
Mr. Holcomb: I appreciate your writing about past KDE problems. I have yet to try 3.1, but am more curious about trying xfce and other 'minimalist' type window managers. My current manager is Gnome 3.0. How does one change the windows manager? Please point me to the right HOWTO or other

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Step by step has some hints. For xfce I installed it, then from your user account run xfce_setup - you only do it once. This copies the .xsession, .xinit and other files over so xfce will run when you login or type startx. Depending on what you are using now the procedure varies. Maybe

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:08:46PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Step by step has some hints. For xfce I installed it, then from your user account run xfce_setup - you only do it once. This copies the .xsession, .xinit and other files over so xfce will run when you login or type startx. If

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Wunder
On Saturday 08 February 2003 1:17 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb wrote: No, I'm not anti-KDE - I just don't want to use it -. nor did I speak against it - I simply said I read the changes and remembered why I didn't want to use it. Any one who wants to use it is welcome - and I

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Tim Wunder wrote: On Saturday 08 February 2003 1:17 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb wrote: As it stands I abandoned KDE for many reasons. One was bloat. It's just so big. One thing though was every few weeks we had to wipe out files in /tmp and other places and let KDE

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:17:26 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm not anti-KDE - I just don't want to use it -. nor did I speak against it - I simply said I read the changes and remembered why I didn't want to use it. As it stands I abandoned KDE for many

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Why couldn't I say it like that! That was one big factor when I thought about trying KDE 3.1 - it was all or nothing. Collins Richey wrote: [ snips ] On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:17:26 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm not anti-KDE - I just don't want to use it -. nor

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Collins Richey
On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 21:37:29 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why couldn't I say it like that! That was one big factor when I thought about trying KDE 3.1 - it was all or nothing. Collins Richey wrote: [ snips ] On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:17:26 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb

Re: Kde 3.1 questions

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Wunder
On Saturday 08 February 2003 9:37 pm, someone claiming to be Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Why couldn't I say it like that! That was one big factor when I thought about trying KDE 3.1 - it was all or nothing. Not really. I compiled it piece by piece while maintaining the existing installation of