Re: NO $#@^*% MAIL!

2002-02-07 Thread Glenn Williams

Hey, Bruce:

Great idea! g

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 - Original Message -
From: Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: NO $#@^*% MAIL!


 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 13:38 pm, Glenn Williams wrote:
  If you'd like more information on becoming a licensed ham radio
operator,
  or about ham radio in general, please contact me off-list.
 
  /commercial message
 
  73 de Glenn

 Oh help  next thing you know he's going to propose a linux.nf  net
net.

 :o)

 de KJ1B


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Re: WAY OT NO MAIL!

2002-02-07 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: NO $#@^*% MAIL!

[snip]

Glenn (et al),

The Internet was clearly the ruination of Packet Radio.

[snip]

 I was proud to have donated my time having produced the
 schematics for the TNC-1 (which Heathkit later copied and used in
their
 HD-4040 TNC kit, with some minor changes) and also helped with PCB
design
 issues.

The packet radio community owes you and many other selfless hams a great
debt of gratitude for pioneering the development of the TNC to its
present state.


[snip]

 TPRS (Texas
 Packet Radio Society) produced their TexNet boards.  Truely the BEST
 designed routing hub I had ever seen for packet radio networking.

Amen to that.  For a few years, west Texas and southeastern New Mexico
had a really good network, with an interface to the TexNet.

Unfortunately, there was a class of packeteers that drove packet right
into the ground, with hourly broadcasts of *tons* of ALLNM, ALLTX,
ALLUSA and WW bulletins, the content of which impressed me about as much
as some of Rush Limbaugh's monologues, (and sounded strangely similar,
to me).  This is the kind of traffic that killed the
keyboard-to-keyboard facet of this hobby, IMNSHO.  I mean, 'Pardon me,
sir or ma'am, as the case may be, but you obviously mistook me for
someone who gives a sh*t.'  Did anyone actually read all that crap?


[snip]

 Sure it was nice knowing you could send data over the
 air, but it was tedious, slow, and often very congested.  As more Hams
 found the Internet they abandoned their packet Radio stations and many
of
 the community-wide networks fell apart.

Yeah, and APRS pretty well put the finishing touches on the eradication
of packet radio as we knew it.  I had an APRS station for a while.  It
was an exhilarating activity, in the same category as watching paint
dry. ;o(

 Even my home Packet station hasn't been on the air in years.  There
just
 isn't a decent network any longer and there's certainly nothing out
there
 of interest (to me, anyway) anymore... :-(

Sadly, I must agree with just everything you've said.  Keeping a station
on the air today is little more than an exercise in futility (or the
epitome of hope.) VBG

But my F6FBB BBS station has been on the air here in ABQ for the 19
months I have lived here, and my JNOS BBS was active from 1990 until I
moved here from Roswell.  Work is now in progress to add a node in the
east mountains, which will (hopefully) re-establish the path to
southeastern New Mexico and west Texas.

I preferred the JNOS (TCP/IP) BBS system, but the JNOS support mail list
has apparently evaporated or gone underground.  (If anyone knows where
the list has moved, please let me know, off-list.)

So Glenn, though I expect Packet Radio did fair better in Oz, it
didn't
 do so well in most places.  I'm sure it will never be a replacement
for
 the Internet should MS/TCP come to pass ;-)   Nice thought, though...

   --- Jay Nugent
   WB8TKL

He speaketh the truth.  sigh  I can't remember who asked the question
that started this thread, but I guess the *real* answer is, Maybe - if
you are prepared for a lot of work, (and all of it uphill).  And that's
probably not even realistic.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: NO MAIL

2002-02-06 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Thanks to all who responded with yeah, it made it this far, etc.  For
whatever reason, I did not get any 'linux-users mail list' mail for about 48
hours.

I had a catastrophic failure here.  Sad to say, it was all my own doing.  I
sure am getting a lot of experience, though.

This next incident is entirely unrelated to the mail famine.  I downloaded
ISO images of ELX, burned the 2 install CDs, and installed ELX on this
machine (to co-exist with Windows XP Pro).  Don't mess with the MBR, says
I, but I guess the ELX install program thought it knew better.  It fubarred
the MBR.

I tried to boot the Win XP install CD so I could run the fix MBR command
from the Recovery Console, but the CD would not boot.  Here's where I should
have tried to boot the CD in a different CD drive.  Instead, I went around
the mulberry bush a couple of times before I decided to try booting the Win
XP CD in my CD-Writer drive.  It booted OK, but by that time, I had already
deleted all partitions - so too late to fix the original MBR.

Don't ask why I didn't think to try a different CD drive sooner.  Dumb,
dumb, dumb.

So now I am back up and running again in Win XP Pro.  Anyone know why I
can't open and read mail attachments from linux-users' mail list in Outlook
Express?

I will install SuSE 7.3 Pro after lunch.  Things will go better after my
belly is full, right?

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: NO $#@^*% MAIL!

2002-02-06 Thread Glenn Williams

Actually, I got 6 or 7 replies.  Thanks to all.

commercial message
Amateur packet radio, one mode of operation of many available to licensed
amateur radio operators throughout the world, is ***about*** networked
computers!  Each time a packet operator connects to another packet station
via HF or VHF/UHF radio signal, he/she becomes part of a packet LAN.  Some
years ago, before the World Wide Web was a household word, there were many
packet LANs across the US, Canada and the UK.  At that time, TCP/IP (adapted
for packet radio by networking genius Phil Karn, KA9Q) was very popular, and
operators could connect to packet stations around the world by merely
entering an IP address.  I corresponded daily with a packet station in North
Wales (UK), very close to where linux-users lister Peter Ruskin lives, in
the 1990s.

If you'd like more information on becoming a licensed ham radio operator, or
about ham radio in general, please contact me off-list.

/commercial message

73 de Glenn

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- Original Message -
From: R. Quenett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: NO $#@^*% MAIL!


 from Glenn Williams:

  Would some kind soul please e-mail me off-list if you see
 this message?

 How many gadzillion replies did you get?g

  Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988

 /yasl(yet another stupid look:)  Is packet radio at
 all/likely to ever be suitable/cheap enough for computer
 networking?  I ask out of idle curiosity while wondering
 vaguely what the rest of us will do if/when buddy bill
 completes his takeover of the existing internet and puts
 the boots to us rabble. /yasl (yes, it does occasionally go
 away;)

 R

[snip]

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Re: NO MAIL

2002-02-06 Thread Glenn Williams

Michael:

Thanks for sharing your ELX experience, and the url for another distro.  I
will have a look.

Regards,

Glenn

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- Original Message -
From: Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: NO MAIL

[snip]

 Elx did the same to me. Fortunately with 3 other Linux partitions to
choose
 from, it wasn't hard to get into one of them and re-install GRUB (I use it
 as my boot selector).

 Elx also crashed several different times during install. Found out there
 are several places not to click on the screen while installing. Took near
 10 tries just to get an install. Promising distro, but not there yet.

 Check out Lycoris Desktop/LX: http://www.lycoris.com. Appears to be
similar
 philosophy to Elx but more stable at this moment.

 Michael


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NO $#@^*% MAIL!

2002-02-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Would some kind soul please e-mail me off-list if you see this message?

Thanks.

Regards,

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Re: ISO image files

2002-01-28 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: ISO image files


 Ken Moffat wrote:

 [...]


  The command I use to burn a cd from an iso image is:
  cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data filename.iso
  Of course you need to be root, and use the proper device, determined
by
  'cdrecord -scanbus', and set your preferred speed and the
appropriate
  filename. Works for me, ymmv. Any second opinions?

 This is what I use, too.  You can play with the speed - I have a cheap
writer that
 should go higher than 4x but doesn't.  Try it out with -dummy to see
whether
 you'll have buffer underruns or other problems, and to time the actual
writing.

 You don't have to be root to do this, assuming your device permissions
are
 acceptable.  cdrecord will complain in that case - it tries to set its
priority
 and such to prevent underruns and only root can do those things.  But
it seems
 harmless, despite the warnings.

 Dave

My thanks to all who responded with instruction and advice.  I hope to
get to try this out later in the day.

Best regards to all.

Glenn

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ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

I have looked in all the familiar sources of info, and have come up
empty.  I have a binary file in .iso image format.  What do I need to do
to install it?

The file is in my download directory, but I want to burn a CD and
install it from that.  I did this some time back, but my memory has
deserted me on this one.

Can someone help?

TIA

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi:

I forgot to mention in my recent post, that I checked the iso file
against the published md5 checksum using md5sum, and it matches okay.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: New Address, Job OT

2002-01-22 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: New Address, Job OT


 Hi, list,
 
 As hinted in other threads, I'm no longer a Hoosier. I accepted a
 position with a Linux startup based in Pittsburgh, PA, TimeSys
 Corporation, http://www.timesys.com/. 

[snip]

Kurt:

Congrats, and best of luck in your new venture.

Regards,

Glenn

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Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Andrew:

I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail.  Thanks for
sending that info.  I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working
with it.

In the meantime, I went to the mailing list archives to see what mail
I've missed, and when I finished one message in a thread, and attempted
to move to the next one in the sequence, the site went down (apparently)
because no matter which message I tried to read, I got a this page
cannot be displayed error, even after reconnecting and re-navigating.

I'm sending a CC: of this message to the list, so you will receive two
copies of this.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

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Fw: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams

Hey, Group:

Here's the latest on the mail delivery problem.  It should be resolved
soon.  Thanks for you help and patience.

Regards,

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- Original Message -

From: Jane M. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:23 AM
Subject: Problem Identified


 Dear Glenn,

 As it turns out, as a result of the new Spam Control, the abq-nm.com
domain
 is not working. We asked Gordon and the Postini people to figure it
out. It
 could be typo in a mail configuration or a server, but I don't know
for
 sure. Very sorry. This is really maddening. Hope we can fix it quick.




 At 09:41 AM 1/21/2002, you wrote:
 Dear Jane:
 
 I appreciate your willingness to work with me on resolving this
e-mail
 problem.  I am attaching 2 files from a 'returned mail notification'
 message I received yesterday from a subscriber of one of the mail
 reflectors I mentioned earlier, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in hopes that
 this information will be useful.
 
 Still no mail from the above mentioned mailing list.

[snip]

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Re: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams

Yes, I am.  I resemble that remark.  VBG

Regards,

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- Original Message -
From: Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: Problem Identified


 Is someone from this list in the ABQ area?

  Hey, Group:
 
  Here's the latest on the mail delivery problem.  It should be
resolved
  soon.  Thanks for you help and patience.
 
  Regards,
 
  Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994
  Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Jane M. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:23 AM
  Subject: Problem Identified
 
 
   Dear Glenn,
  
   As it turns out, as a result of the new Spam Control, the
abq-nm.com
  domain
   is not working. We asked Gordon and the Postini people to figure
it
  out. It
   could be typo in a mail configuration or a server, but I don't
know
  for
   sure. Very sorry. This is really maddening. Hope we can fix it
quick.
  
  
  
  
   At 09:41 AM 1/21/2002, you wrote:
   Dear Jane:
   
   I appreciate your willingness to work with me on resolving this
  e-mail
   problem.  I am attaching 2 files from a 'returned mail
notification'
   message I received yesterday from a subscriber of one of the mail
   reflectors I mentioned earlier, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in hopes
that
   this information will be useful.
   
   Still no mail from the above mentioned mailing list.
 
  [snip]
 
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Re: OT ABQ List Members

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams



- Original Message -
From: Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: OT ABQ List Members


 Tyler Regas wrote:
 
  I guess I should have said that I am too G How nice. I've been
  work-related anti-social for quite some time now. Might be time to
change
  that.
 
  Tyler
 
 snip

 Why give up a good thing? g
 That makes at least 3 of us then, though I actually commute from
 Ponderosa to Santa Fe. It's 80 miles each way and Bernalillo is about
 halfway. I'm now working as Systems Administrator for the State
Supreme
 Court's Judicial Information Division there. Had to do a crash course
in
 AIX but IBM has some good tools to run linux on AIX. We're at 4.3.x,
not
 5L though. But bash, ssh, webmin, gcc, fileutils and many others seem
to
 build and work properly. Is there an Abq. LUG?
 --
 Andrew Mathews
 
   4:55pm  up  7:34,  4 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.07, 1.02
 
 What good is a ticket to the good life, if you can't find the
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There is a ABQ LUG, and I joined it some time ago, but it's not very
active (and I certainly contributed to that inactivity).  I lost the
info I had about web site, reflector (if any), etc.  I'll do a search
and see what surfaces.  Letcha know.

73 de Glenn


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Albuquerque LUG

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams

Here's some info on the New Mexico Linux Users' Group:

New Mexico Linux Users Group 
  Contact James Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Postal address NMLUG c/o James Hamilton
  5021 Indian School NE STE 600
  Albuquerque NM 87110
  USA 
  Started on 1999-06-14 
  Size 130 
  Status informal 
  Last changed on 2001-01-02 
  Editor's access
  (password protected) 
 


FWIW

Regards,

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No mail

2002-01-20 Thread Glenn Williams

I have had NO mail from the list during the past 72 hours.  Will someone
please drop a note to me off-list, if this message appears in the
linux-users mail (and explain to me what the hell's going on, if
possible)?

TIA

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: Test

2002-01-11 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Ron:

Yep, it made it this time.

73 de Glenn

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- Original Message -
From: Ron White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux users group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:26 PM
Subject: Test


 Can't get email sent to list.
 Hope this one made it.
 Ron

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Re: Copying boot disk

2002-01-11 Thread Glenn Williams

Hello, Lee:

I don't wish to belabor this point.  Evidently I was misunderstood, or 
perhaps there were errors in what I wrote.

Four or 5 months ago, I tried to make a copy of the LILO boot floppy 
that was created when I installed SuSE Linux 7.2  I discovered it was 
impossible to do so.  I later read that the reason it can't be copied 
has to do with the unique file system installed on the floppy disk 
before the boot info is copied to the disk.

Ron White related a similar experience, IIRC.  I believe he wrote to 
SuSE to ask why he was unable to copy his LILO boot floppy.  As I 
recall, he did not get a satisfactory explanation.

I sent a more detailed message to you privately in hopes it would be 
clearer than the vague procedure I outlined in my first reply to you.

Moments ago, to prove (again) to myself that it could be done, I 
duplicated that procedure, and created a LILO boot floppy,  not an 
installation boot disk.  Here's what I did:

Click the YaST2 icon in the panel.  Click Control 
Center=System=Configure Boot Mode.  A Custom LILO Installation dialog 
appears.  There are 4 radio buttons; click the 2nd button (Create boot 
floppy).  You may not be prompted to insert a (IBM) formatted floppy; 
do so anyway.

I was lucky - several nights ago, we had a 1 hour power outage, 
complete with surges and sags.  Both my Linux/Windows XP machines were 
running.  When the dust settled, I could not boot into this Linux 
automatically using the LILO on the hard drive.  I whipped out my 
handy-dandy LILO boot floppy, repaired LILO on the hard disk and went 
merrily on my way.

Best regards,

Glenn
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Re: Copying boot disk

2002-01-11 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Copying boot disk


[whole lotta snippin']

 I'm not sure what you mean by a boot floppy.  If you mean a floppy
that
 boots a kernel it contains (and probably mounts / as a ramdisk
contained on
 another floppy) then what you did or dd are both good ways to make
another.

Well, as I said, I was unable to read the LILO floppy by any means I
knew of, back then.  I *assume* there's a copy of LILO on the disk, and
it simply runs LILO to boot the installed system(s).  In SuSE 7.2 and
7.3, creating the LILO floppy is an option offered during the
installation.  Sometimes it is *not* an option - it is done by default.
In just such a case, that was initially the reason I wanted to copy it
(to a file on the hard drive) - so I could then use a readable copy to
build my /etc/lilo.conf on the hard drive, which the installation failed
to create on my hard drive.

I didn't try the method Bruce suggested - but I am sure I will do so at
my next opportunity, since it's a little easier than the YaST2 method.

[snip]

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Re: Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-10 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: Copying Boot disk.


 Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To
 keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a
 floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate boot
 disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that
 says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy boot
 disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy boot
 disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in
 general and SuSe in particular.

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I have run into this problem, as well.  I finally found out that the distro
I was using, installed a Minix file system on the floppy before copying the
boot data to the disk.  YMMV.  I think I was running a SuSE distro at the
time.  Seems to me they used the minix fs to save space on the floppy.

If you are running SuSE 7.2 or 7.3 Pro, check the Reference Manual - look in
the index for boot disks or rescue disks.  Sorry I can't give you more
specific information.

OTOH, since you *are* running a recent SuSE distro, you should be able to
make a duplicate in YaST 2.  Look at YaST 2=Control Center=System, and
then under boot disks or rescue disks - I'm kinda hazy on the last stop,
there.

HTH

73 de Glenn

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Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive

2002-01-08 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive


 I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can
 get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too.

[schnippen]


Hi, Joel:

Take a look at:

www.bcd2000.com

They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at
$159.

FWIW

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: Hi there

2002-01-04 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Bill Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:39 PM
Subject: Hi there


 Thought I would check this list out


Well, then... Hey! and welcome!

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-03 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Thanks to all for the many helpful suggestions and ideas.  I will make
the lilo boot floppy first and then follow the original plan.  I should
have thought of that - I have a lilo boot floppy on my other Linux box.

I did a little research on restoring the MBR in WinXP, and discovered
that the Windows XP installation CD can be used to enter a recovery
mode from which a DOS prompt allows the user to run the fixmbr
command, which accomplishes the same thing as fdisk /mbr in earlier
versions of DOS.

If all is as it appears, (assuming the boot loader is in the /boot
partition and not the mbr) it won't be necessary to modify or restore
the mbr.  But then, we have no use for fire insurance until the house
burns down.

Regards,

Glenn

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From: Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: Memory lapse


[snip]


  
   dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda  bs=446 count=1
 
  Pardon a detail improvement, but I believe it actually is bs=512.
This
  can be checked by simply doing ls -l /boot/boot.0300. The MBR is 512
  bytes long, so the memory creaks out.
 

 Before you try anything, first create a working lilo boot disk with
your
 existing and functional ilo.confby changing the root=/dev/hda to
 root=/dev/fd0 and then /sbin/lio.  Verify that the boot disk works,
then
 make your attempts to modify the mbr.

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Re: Will they recommend LINUX????

2002-01-02 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: R. Quenett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Will they recommend LINUX


Perhaps they'll urge Americans to switch to a safer OS  ;-)
   Not likely during the current administration.
 
  Or any other.

 Government doesn't _do_ 'open'.  It's poisonous to the culture.

 R

I think that will prove to be an unwarranted assumption.  NASA and a
number of other government institutions are currently using Linux.
Either the Space Lab or the shuttles use Linux - at the moment I cannot
remeber which, but possibly both.

Regards,

Glenn

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Memory lapse

2002-01-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi,  Group:

I want to delete this Linux and the associated partitions from my hard 
drive.  Currently, I dual-boot SuSE 7.2 and Windows XP.  I think LILO 
was installed in the MBR.  

IIRC, that's what boot=/dev/hda means.  I've attached my 
/etc/lilo.conf in hopes some kind reader will verify that this is so.

I remember that there's a command line exercise that will restore the 
original MBR, but I can't find it and don't remember it.

I suppose if all else fails I can boot with a Windows 9x boot disk and 
restore the original MBR with fdisk /MBR.

Any help?


Here's /etc/lilo.conf:

# LILO configuration file
# Start LILO global Section
# If you want to prevent console users to boot with init=/bin/bash,
#  restrict usage of boot params by setting a passwd and using the 
option
#  restricted.
#password=bootpwd
#restricted
append=BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi
boot=/dev/hda
#compact   # faster, but won't work on all systems.
vga=771
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=Wg:kw:Wg:Wg
read-only
prompt
timeout=80
# End LILO global Section
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  root = /dev/hda3
  label = linux
  initrd = /boot/initrd
 
#
image = /boot/vmlinuz.suse
  root = /dev/hda3
  label = suse
  initrd = /boot/initrd.suse
  optional
 
#
other = /dev/hda1
  label = windows
  table = /dev/hda
 
#
image = /boot/memtest.bin
  label = memtest86


Thanks, best regards, and Happy New Year to all who may choose to 
observe the custom.

Glenn

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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Thanks, Ian:

I want to download elx, and I don't have a large enough staging area on
my hard drive to hold the iso files.  I plan to install elx on this
machine later, but in the meantime I can delete the SuSE partitions and
then resize the Windoze partition to accomodate the large download.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

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- Original Message -
From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Memory lapse


 Glenn Williams wrote:
 
  Hi,  Group:
 
  I want to delete this Linux and the associated partitions from my
hard
  drive.  Currently, I dual-boot SuSE 7.2 and Windows XP.  I think
LILO
  was installed in the MBR.
 
  IIRC, that's what boot=/dev/hda means.  I've attached my
  /etc/lilo.conf in hopes some kind reader will verify that this is
so.

 That's what I see in the file you included.

  I remember that there's a command line exercise that will restore
the
  original MBR, but I can't find it and don't remember it.

 see 'man lilo'.  Read the '-u' and '-s' options.  And look for a file
in
 your /boot dir called something like 'boot.0#00' where # is equal to
the
 major number for the device lilo installed to.

  I suppose if all else fails I can boot with a Windows 9x boot disk
and
  restore the original MBR with fdisk /MBR.

 The above is quite simple, and something that is good to know.  But
yes
 you *could* do that.
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Re: Memory lapse

2002-01-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Ian:

I simply neglected to change the Windows label in LILO after upgrading
to XP, so it still refers to Win98SE.  It dual-boots SuSE and WinXP just
dandy.

Or perhaps I misunderstood your warning?

Thanks for your alert!

Regards,

Glenn

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From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Memory lapse


 Ian wrote:
 
  Glenn Williams wrote:
  
   Hi,  Group:
  
   I want to delete this Linux and the associated partitions from my
hard
   drive.  Currently, I dual-boot SuSE 7.2 and Windows XP.  I think
LILO
   was installed in the MBR.
 SNIP
   I suppose if all else fails I can boot with a Windows 9x boot disk
and
   restore the original MBR with fdisk /MBR.
 
  The above is quite simple, and something that is good to know.  But
yes
  you *could* do that.

 Actually, if this machine is XP don't assume that will work, I
realized
 after my last message blinked off the screen, that 9X is still on top
of
 DOS, XP has left it behind (I think, I only use 98SE and 2K)
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Re: elx

2001-12-30 Thread Glenn Williams

Vern:

In view of the foregoing, (in this thread) I feel compelled to point out
that the plural form of typo is typos and not typo's.

FWIW

Regards,

Glenn

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From: Vern W Heesch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: elx

[snip]


 I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely shows
how
 much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more
companies
 putting things out with typo's in them, it's pathetic.

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Re: Windows98: Command prompt?

2001-12-22 Thread Glenn Williams

Joel:

Isn't  the command prompt simply command.com?  Do a search for that
filename, or better yet, go to Start=Run and in the window type

command.com

and hit ENTER.  I can't try that here because I have only Windows XP
available, where the command prompt is a menu item under
Start=Programs=Accesories=MSDOS Prompt (which, come to think of it,
that might not be a bad place to look on Win 98).

HTH

Good luck,

Glenn

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- Original Message -
From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 8:02 AM
Subject: Windows98: Command prompt?


 A bit OT but:
 Does anyone know how to get a MSDOS prompt on a window98 computer
which
 doesn't list that option anywhere?
 My son needs to backup everything from his new laptop which has
windows98.
 It would be easiest just to run ftp from the command line but we can't
find a way to get an
 MSDOS prompt on his fancy HP powerful laptop computer.  The fancy
windows
 GUI ftp client doesn't have a way to select all files at the same
time.
 I know, I know, dump windows, but he has to use windows at school.
 Everytime I work with windows I am astounded by what an awful
operating
 system it is but its what we have to work with.
 He is tired of windows98 crashing several times per day.
 So, he is going to install XP professional ($20 [no upgrade] from his
school
 bookstore.) I may be tempted at that price.
 Joel

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Re: Win95 replacement

2001-12-17 Thread Glenn Williams

Derek:

Is it possible that the original owner of the computer and hard drive would
have used one of the proprietary hard disk installation overlays to allow
use of the entire 6 gigs of real estate on a machine with a BIOS that only
recognizes 2 gig?

There are several of these overlays around; two that come to mind are
Western Digital's EZ-Install utility and Maxtor's Max Blast Plus.  I
don't recall what Seagate calls their utility, but I have downloaded it from
their web site.

You must have the utility on a floppy or CD in order to restore the hard
drive to its original state.  Once this has been done, up to 2 gig will be
available for normal use.

I don't think you can install Linux on a hard drive on which the utility is
still in place.

FWIW

Regards,

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- Original Message -
Subject: Re: Win95 replacement


 On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:18, Derek Blazer enunciated:

  I could always stand to do some more reading on linux, but I have
  successfully installed linux before using these disks.  Before posing my
  problem to the list, I did do a brief search in the Caldera users list
  archive and the step by step site.  I would gladly read up on kernel
  panic errors if somebody would point me to a reference.


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Re: I'm back

2001-11-25 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Ron:

Good to hear from you again, and glad you're feeling better.

I am typing this on my new computer - Pentium 3, 1 GHz, with 1 GB of
RAM.  Works pretty good!

TTYL

73 de glenn

- Original Message -
From: Ron White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux users group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: I'm back


 Had a total hip replacement, but am back at the computer now and it
sure
 feels good.
 Ron

 Ron White
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Apology to the list

2001-11-25 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi:

I apologize for sending to the list, what was intended as a personal
reply; I did not look at the reply address when I hit the 'send' button.
sigh slap!

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Re: OT Volume Down?

2001-11-16 Thread Glenn Williams


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- Original Message -
From: Burns MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: OT Volume Down?


Is it my imagination, or is the volume on this list way down over what
it was just a month or two ago?

Did we lose a bunch or people that never re-subbed during the hardware
failure crisis?

Hi, Burns:

To the former: my perception is yes.

To the latter: probably.

Regards,

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Re: Lilo Final. Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-11-02 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 01 November 2001 21:08, you wrote:
 On Friday 02 November 2001 06:39, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Then I made sure I can boot both Linux and XP with PM 7 Boot Magic.
   BM

 this is *not* a flame at you. I have never properly understood why
 people insist on using $60 flakey software when lilo (or grub) do the
 job. 

[snip]


 the following lilo.conf is a 90% garanteed success. it is THIS
 SIIMPLE

 (ignore all #comments)

 boot =/dev/hda # THE MBR
 install=/boot/boot.b # THE contents of that mbr
 map  =/boot/map  # internal use

 linear  # THE method of disk accces, there are others, this one
 works.

 prompt  #rubbish
 timeout=50  #rubbish
 message=/boot/message  #rubbish
 read-only   #yeah yeah

 #--linux OS fragment

 image=/boot/vmlinuz_think_of_a_number

   label=TOMATOES

 root=/dev/hdb2   # THE disk and THE partition

 #-- DOS OS fragment

 other=/dev/hda1#THE disk and THE partition

   label=PORRIDGE
 -


 repeat the above fragments for as many different kernels and OS's
 that give you a thrill, remembering to mount those fragments prior to
 issuing /sbin/lilo

 /sbin/lilo will scream it's head off if any syntax above is wrong,
 (or if the item ain't mounted), it is THAT simple.

 

 It doesn't matter a rat's *rse whether the OS booting to, uses
 a left knee over toehold, reverse dihedral double dichotomy file
 system, with pretzels. Whatever that file system 'is', it has no part
 to play during booting because it can't be implemented in 446 bytes!
 Whatever the OS, linux included, that file system, and all
 parephenalia associated with it, is NOT part of the boot process, it
 is 'somewhere else'.

Very instructive... and *way too* funny!
ROTFLMAO


 All that is ever required, is to provide the incredibly imple syntax
 above, so that lilo can point to 'something else'.

Hi, Mike:

First of all, let me say that I did not take offense to your comments 
in the least.  They seem to have been written in the same tone as your 
tutorial on LILO in the SxS - which I think (tone) is very good.

Second, your dry, but not-so-suttle, uproariously irreverent sense of 
humor bleeds through your writing in a most entertaining but immensely 
instructive way.

Third, I learned something from this experience.  Most importantly, 
this time I did *not* panic.  I actually had some fun putting things 
back together. I got helpful suggestions from several list members, and 
I don't mean to minimize their help, but mostly, I relied on what I 
already knew (if I would only take the time to think about it), and 
what I could find in the many good books I have.

Reduced to a paragraph or so, here's what I did:

I first used YaST2 to make a system boot floppy by writing my existing 
LILO to a floppy.  I tested it and it works.

Then I used YaST2 (could have done that from the command line) to  
write the same LILO to the Linux partition of the hard drive.  Next, I 
restored the original MBR using a DOS boot floppy and the DOS fdisk 
/MBR command.  Then I installed Partition Magic 7 Boot Magic and made 
sure that would boot both OSs.  Finally, I rounded the final turn by 
disabling Boot Magic and writing LILO to the MBR.  Which 
is, of course, where I began.  ;0)

I know that wasn't the best or most straight-forward approach, but it 
was a worthwhile experience, all in all.  Everything boots nicely.  And 
I may remember some of this as late as next Wednesday.

Thanks for your comments, Mike.

Regards,

Glenn  

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-11-01 Thread Glenn Williams


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From: Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: Someone has to ask...


 On Wednesday 31 October 2001 02:32, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Hi, Group:
 
  I know it's a nasty question, but someone has to ask it; will the
  current LILO boot Windows XP?

 it boots the vfat format quite ok, am running so-called xp
'professional'
 here. I cannot tell you if it works in nTFS format which is what xp
will try
 and do on a clean install. Probably all is ok.


Hi, Mike:

Thanks for the insight.  I upgraded my win98SE to winXP Home Edition
and in the process destroyed my LILO.  I am working on recovering, now.
I used the recipe for making a system boot disk which is found in the
SuSE 7.2 Pro Reference Manual, and also the one on SuSE's web site
(Knowledge Base), but both failed to boot my installed system.  I can
boot it OK with the official boot disk and CD # 1 of the boxed set,
but that takes a long time and it's a royal PIA.

There were several references on the SuSE mailing list to /boot/vmlinuz
and /boot/vmlinuz.suse being the same kernel; the second copy is there
in the event you destroy your original.  Maybe I should try making a
boot disk using /boot/vmlinuz.suse.

My biggest problem is that I'm not sure how to restore LILO to the MBR,
where it used to live.  I had to do fdisk /MBR just so I could boot
'something.'

Well, I didn't intend to go on like this.  Anyway, thanks for
responding, Mike.

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: Someone has to ask

2001-11-01 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 01 November 2001 09:34, you wrote:
 Hi Glenn,
 something similar happened to my dual boot Win 2K pro and Suse 7.2
 Pro box- I booted from the 1st CD like you did, once in, I pulled up 
 and ran the Yast2 module, from there you can rewrite the MBR in
 system section.

 Kirk


Hi, Kirk:

Thanks for the tip - I will give that a try right now.

Regards,

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-11-01 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 13:46, Bob Brown wrote:

 I am booting XP (Home Edition) without problems using the current
 LILO.

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Hi, Bob and Kirk:

Well, there's good news...  and GOOD NEWS!

First, I used YaST2 to make a system boot disk by copying my existing 
LILO to a floppy disk.  Then I checked it out to be sure I could boot 
XP and SuSE Linux from the floppy.  This is a really cool way to make a 
system boot disk.

Next, I wrote LILO to the Linux root (/) partition, instead of the MBR, 
which upgrading to XP had destroyed.  I used YaST2 to perform this 
wondrous feat, also.

Then I made sure I can boot both Linux and XP with PM 7 Boot Magic.  BM 
isn't my preference, but right now I prefer it to looking at a blank 
screen.

I will work on replacing PM 7 Boot Mgagic with LILO next.  Then I'll be 
back to normal (whatever that might be).

Thanks to both of you for your help, suggestions and encouragement.

Regards,

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-10-31 Thread Glenn Williams

On Wednesday 31 October 2001 07:26, you wrote:
 I'm booting Windows XP pro using grub with no problems.  Also running
 it in VMware with no problems.



Hi, Ray:

Thanks for letting me know.

Regards,

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-10-31 Thread Glenn Williams

On Wednesday 31 October 2001 07:26, Ray Russell wrote:
 I'm booting Windows XP pro using grub with no problems.  Also running
 it in VMware with no problems.

Hey, Group:

Well, I played with fire and I got burnt!

I upgraded win98 to winXP home edition using the upgrade.  I *formerly* 
used LILO to dual-boot SuSE Linux 7.2 Pro and win98.

The upgrade over-wrote the MBR.  I restored the original MBR (windoze) 
and completed the upgrade.  I tried using PQ 7 BootMagic temporarily to 
see if *it* would boot Linux, but I got the same thing as when I tied 
to boot Linux from the SuSE splash screen - LIL_

I might have been able to repair LILO, but instead (probably foolishly) 
chose to restore the original MBR so I could finish the winXP upgrade.

I am composing this message in KMail, having booted into SuSE Linux 7.2 
Pro using the boot disk and CD #1.

I am feeling pretty sheepish about all this, and my ass is pretty raw - 
but go ahead - feel free.  I deserve it!

I could sure use some help on how to proceed.

Regards,

Glenn

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Someone has to ask...

2001-10-30 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

I know it's a nasty question, but someone has to ask it; will the 
current LILO boot Windows XP?

Regards,

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-10-30 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 09:17, you wrote:
  Glenn Williams wrote:
   Hi, Group:
  
   I know it's a nasty question, but someone has to ask it; will the
   current LILO boot Windows XP?
 
  Dunno, I have a co-worker named _Milo_ who'd like to _boot_ the XP
  developers in the arse though...guess that doesn't help though.
 
  Sorry. :P

 I was wrong in my previous email.  XP must stand for eXtra Payments. 
 (now and in the future)  :o)


Hee hee - you got it right that time.

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Re: Someone has to ask...

2001-10-30 Thread Glenn Williams

Hey, Bob:

Thanks for responding.  This is good to know.

Regards,

Glenn

On Tuesday 30 October 2001 13:46, you wrote:

[snip]

 Glenn

 I am booting XP (Home Edition) without problems using the current
 LILO.

 Regards...Bob

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Re: OTFwd: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

2001-10-28 Thread Glenn Williams

On Sunday 28 October 2001 17:11, you wrote:
 oh my god... I would turn around and leave right then and there

How did that photo of my ham radio bench get released?

Regards,

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Re: linux withdrawal ahead ot

2001-10-26 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 25 October 2001 20:22, you wrote:
 Well I'm off air until next Wenesday.  My 40th high school reunion in
 Texarkana.

 Unlike Kurt's traveling, there's no woman involved. grin

 Although my daughter did say: Dad, are you sure there's not an old
 girl friend waiting for you?

 Looks like I'll be back before the snow flies.  I don't own a laptop,
 so I'll have to do without my daily linux fix for a while.

 Catch up with you next week.

Hi, Collins:

You will have a blast.  I wouldn't worry too much about Linux 
withdrawal.  My 40th was in Chicago 14 years ago.  I survived and so 
will you.  My soon-to-be new wife went with me.  It was a great time!

Have fun!

Glenn

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Re: Barbie.com and KDE 2.1.2

2001-10-02 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 02 October 2001 16:02, you wrote:
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  When my girls try to visit Barbie.com using Konq the screen won't
  load.  Is this a windows site?  They don't have any problems
  accessing the site in windows (using ie or netscape).  Is there
  anything I can do to get it to load - plugins, settings?

 Don't know about Kong, but barbi.com isn't a windows-only site.  I
 just checked by going there using nutscrape under Solaris 7 on an
 UltraSparc 30 here.  Hadn't realised it was there, though I should
 have.  This will make my 8 yr old daughter quite happe.

 rickf

Hi, Rick:

I just navigated to the Barbie web site - www.barbie.com - and it plays 
like a Wurlitzer (including sound) for me.  I am using Konqueror as my 
browser, and SuSE 7.2 Pro on a P3 - 450 Mhz machine w/ 256M of RAM.  
The KDE version is 2.1.2

HTH

Regards,

Glenn

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Windows XP

2001-09-26 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Is Windows XP a *real* operating system yet, or is it another GUI shell 
running on top of MS-DOS v X.x???

Does anyone know?

Regards,

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Re: I am afraid...

2001-09-21 Thread Glenn Williams

On Friday 21 September 2001 06:52, you wrote:

[snip]


 I just heard on the radio that the FAA has now restricted flying
 within *3* miles of any outdoor sporting event or assembledge of
 people..   This would include a high school football game.

 They didn't mention any altitude with this.   This to me would
 essentially ban all flight.  There's no way to let pilots know where
 these 'restricted areas' are or to easily avoid them even if the
 pilot did.

 A real overreaction in my opinion.



Right you are.  Someone obviously did not think this through.


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Re: [SLE] A gentle request

2001-09-21 Thread Glenn Williams

On Friday 21 September 2001 15:24, you wrote:

[snip]

  To whom that applies
 
  When replying to a mail please _DO_NOT CC to the person. As this
  person is on the list also you are just increasing bandwith usage
  for both sides. Since the only way you can send an email to any
  SuSE mailling Lists is only if the person is subscribed what is the
  benefit of CC'ing to the others who tried to provide an answer
  unless the original email sender has requested to be CC'ed.

Here's the problem (mail-client-specific - in my case, Kmail):

Like many of you, I subscribe to 2 Linux mail lists; the SuSE list and 
the generic list Doug hosts.  If I want to reply to something on the 
linux-users list, I click the 'reply' icon.  If I do the same thing on 
the SuSE list, the reply goes to the *author* and not the list, so then 
I must open the address book, find the address for the SuSE list, click 
on it, and then delete the author's address.

Big deal! you say.  But it is a royal PIA from where I sit.  If I 
remember, (*if*) I can click the  'reply ALL' icon and then remember to 
delete the extra address.  It would be great if they both worked the 
same way - but they don't.

My 2 kopecks...

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Re: I am afraid...

2001-09-18 Thread Glenn Williams

On Monday 17 September 2001 20:07, you wrote:
 On Monday 17 September 2001 21:07, Chang wrote:
 | Then find out why Ladden did it? Talk to him before making a
 | military arrest.  :)

 as i understand it, our arrest of him will be under a provision of
 british military law, rule .303. we had a version of that, rule .308,
 but we wimped out and now are stuck with our own rule .223.

How about this rule: U.S. Pistol, cal .45, M1911A1

Glenn

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RAM

2001-09-17 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Somehow, the answer to this simple question slipped past me during my 
'basic' training.  All else being equal, can I use PC133 RAM in a 
machine with a 100 MHz bus?  Or even a 66 MHz bus?

Any consequences?

Regards,

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Re: RAM

2001-09-17 Thread Glenn Williams

On Monday 17 September 2001 08:20, you wrote:
 On Monday 17 September 2001 07:41 am, you wrote:
  Hi, Group:
 
  Somehow, the answer to this simple question slipped past me during
  my 'basic' training.  All else being equal, can I use PC133 RAM in
  a machine with a 100 MHz bus?  Or even a 66 MHz bus?
 
  Any consequences?
 
  Regards,
 
  Glenn

 Yes

It will default to the slowest memory. I am doing that now on a
 box.

 cheers


Thanks to Rick and Ron for your answers.

Strange - I was sure that this would work, and in fact, without looking 
to confirm this, I'm sure I am already doing it with at least one other 
machine.  But when the question arose, my between-the-ears memory did a 
total flameout!

Thanks.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: RAM

2001-09-17 Thread Glenn Williams

On Monday 17 September 2001 09:01, you wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:41:35 -0600, Glenn Williams wrote:
 Somehow, the answer to this simple question slipped past me during
  my 'basic' training.  All else being equal, can I use PC133 RAM in
  a machine with a 100 MHz bus?  Or even a 66 MHz bus?

 I am.  But the only pitfall I have found is that I can't now add a
 PC100 DIMM to the system  The PC133 DIMM disappears


Hi, Shawn:

The inability to add slower RAM to existing faster memory is duly noted.

Thanks!

Regards,

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Re: A sad day

2001-09-15 Thread Glenn Williams

Shawn:

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family...

Glenn

On Saturday 15 September 2001 13:35, you wrote:
 Its is with a very heavy heart that we must announce the passing of
 our daughter, Sydney K. Tayler.  Sydney was stillborn at 10:26PM,
 Sept 14, 2001.  We do not know the reason why Sydney was taken from
 us.  She was found to have no heart beat during a routine weekly
 checkup.  An ultrasound examination at Washoe Medical Center,
 confirmed that she had left us.

 stayler

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Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-14 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 13 September 2001 17:55, you wrote:
 Glenn Williams wrote:
  On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote:
 
  [snip]
 
   Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan.
 
   After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans
 
   was joy that the war was over.
 
  If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT
  paying attention.
 
  With indignation,
 
  Glenn


[snip]

...Skippy replied:

 I was alive then and aged 12, and like everyone else on the allied
 side we were just estatic that it was finally over, boy were we
 paying attention.

I don't want to belabor this, but I also prefer not to be 
misunderstood.  What I am trying to convey here, is that as a nation, 
we were deleriously happy the war finally ended.  

But that was not the only sentiment expressed by Americans.  There was 
also a national feeling of sadness and despair that the lives of 
thousands of non-combatants were obliterated so quickly and summarily 
that in these times the event could be likened to pressing the delete 
key on a computer keyboard.

I was 14 when General MacArthur accepted the surrender of the Japanese. 
I don't believe we owe the world an apology for using the bomb, but 
the memory of those times saddens me (and millions of other Americans) 
deeply.

Glenn



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Re: New York WTC

2001-09-14 Thread Glenn Williams

Skippy  wrote:
 
 All cliques aside, I would like to see a surgical operation,
 something well planned and executed, similar to Entebbe. One that
 exorcises the cancer but leaves the good flesh still there.


I agree.  This seems to me the most sensible approach.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: New York WTC

2001-09-14 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 13 September 2001 22:16, you wrote:
 Bruce Marshall wrote:
  It would be great if they allowed people with carry permits to
  carry weapons on board with prior notification.   I think they
  should do the same for teachers with permits with proper storage of
  the weapon.   Sure would have saved some lives in the past.

 Let us NOT forget that we are talking not just American Airlines. I
 shudder to think of some airlines were passengers were allowed to


 carry guns, you might end up with a flying collander.
  



 --
 Keith Antoine aka Skippy

Skippy:

Not a funny topic, but your metaphor is hilarious!  ROTFLMAO

Regards,

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Re: Fwd: Miami Herald Editorial

2001-09-13 Thread Glenn Williams

On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:48, you wrote:

[snip]

 Later, we dropped atom bombs on Japan.
 After the atom bombing, the only sentiment expressed by Americans was
 joy that the war was over.

If you were alive during this time, you sure as hell were NOT paying 
attention.

With indignation,

Glenn


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Re: Evangelism (dep style)

2001-09-07 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Tim:

Very informative reply.  Mucho gracias.

Regards,

Glenn

On Friday 07 September 2001 06:22, you wrote:
 Glenn Williams wrote:
  Hi, Tim:
 
  What is a mozilla nightly?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Regards,
 
  Glenn

 Mozilla - the open source development project for Netscape 6 (and
 some other, lesser known, companies) - builds versions of the browser
 package every day with the latest changes and calls them nightlies.
 It's quite different using a nightly than a point release. You get
 additional bug fixes *and* bugs. Sometimes the thing won't even run
 (which is what my son found out this morning).

 Typically, I'll pull a nightly down every couple of days to see how
 things are coming along.

 More info can be found at http://www.mozilla.org.

 Regards,
 Tim

  On Thursday 06 September 2001 19:41, you wrote:
 My son has succumb to pressure from the old man to use linux full
 time (that and he couldn't get windows to install for some reason
  and I refused to help him...). So taking in the advice of dep's
  latest .comment on linuxplanet, I'm trying to be a good guru.
  Unfortunately, he's asked a question that I don't know the answer
  to.
 He's downloaded a couple of mozilla nightlies and has liked what
  he's seen. His initial comment was something like, wow, that's
  fast. Of course, the last time he tried Mozilla was probly two
  months ago. Anyway, I walked him thru downloading a nightly tar
  binary and extracting it to a local folder to run and he seemed
  happy with that. Now, though, he wants to automate the process.
 So he asked me if it could be done and how. I told him that I'm
  sure it could be done, but I don't know how. SO the task at hand
  is to downoad the latest mozilla nightly and untar it to a local
  folder autmatically every night. Any scripting gurus out there
  wanna share their expertise with a budding 13-year old linux geek?
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-06 Thread Glenn Williams

Very cool, Bruce:

Thanks for posting this.  I have it bookmarked.

73 de Glenn

On Thursday 06 September 2001 09:30, you wrote:
 Thought you might want to make a note of this site:


 http://www.whatismyip.com/


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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Joel:

Thanks for the firewall tutorial.  I'm sure it will be useful, once 
I've digested all the information in it.  I'm grateful to you for 
taking the time to send this to me.

I have some books on TCP/IP and one which specifically covers firewalls 
and Internet security, but they are obsolete - written in the mid-90s 
when I was using TCP/IP in amateur packet radio networks.

I'm using the SuSE 7.2 Pro personal firewall which is 
non-configurable.  It's either enabled or disabled, and that's about 
it.  However, there's a SuSE Firewall that ships with this distro, and 
it is *very* configurable.  So I will examine that with deeper scrutiny.

I'll also check amazon.com for what books are available on-line about 
firewalls and security.

Thanks again for the advice and information.

73 de Glenn

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 18:25, you wrote:
  DENY  tcp  l- 0xFF 0x00  eth1 0.0.0.0/0  24.182.146.18 * -  
 1:1023 rule protocol log Who knows  NIC  any ip   my ip  from any
 port to your ports

 Translation:
 Deny tcp packets, logging it, Huh??, to my eth1 from any ip on the
 planet to the ip address of the NIC of my router (which connects to
 the internet) from any port to my ports 1 to 1023.
 ip's are in dot quad format with a netmask if needed.
 0.0.0.0. is host 0.0.0.0 but 0.0.0.0/0 is any ip.
 127.0.0.0/24 is the local host.
 Firewalls are simple once you have the few rules figured out. Here is
 a simple rule from my firewall. It denies all requests from any host
 to my internet facing NIC to access the ports from 1 to 1023 (These
 are the privileged ports to which various services, like ftp, telnet,
 printing, and others listen for requests for services. You likely
 didn't know that port 515 (port for printing local or network files)
 is ripe for exploitation.

 You are at a crucial stage. If you don't learn this simple stuff, you
 will be like those poor souls in Shakespeare, who, not catching the
 tide at its flood, will wallow in the shallows, etc., at least as far
 as security.

 For your own good, and for the good of your security, firewalls are
 way too important to leave to magic security scripts.
 You should know which other ports you have to protect, like 6000
 (your X server) and make sure to prevent unwanted people from
 attaching to such services. I just edit my firewall using vi. It is
 so simple that way.
 ipchains-save  file
 Edit the file
 ipchains -F; cat file | ipchains-restore -f
 Piece of cake.
 Buy a book or read about firewalls. You have been warned.
 In addition, if you want to arrange ipmasq or use nonstandard ports
 for services (Say, to disguise your web page from your ISP which bans
 such things), knowing about firewalls is essential.
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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-05 Thread Glenn Williams



Thanks, Tim:

Obviously I did not read the info on the grc site carefully.  I'll give 
that a try.

Regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 08:57, you wrote:
 Glenn Williams wrote:

 snip

  grc.com was not much help.  First of all, I had to switch to
  windoze and a different firewall.  They report my IP address as
  10.0.0.2, and then gave me a boilerplate blurb about how IETF in
  their wisdom set aside a large block of addresses for internal
  network use (which was rather astute, and all very true, of
  course).
 
  Thanks.

 snip


 IIRC, you downloaded and ran IP_agent. That does require windows to
 run, it's a windows program. grc.com offers a Shields Up scan that
 tells you you external IP address, the IP that the Internet sees. I
 just navigated to the shields up page from RedHat,
 https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2, running the scan is not
 OS-specific.

 On that screen, just navigate down past the Free IP Agent BS and
 click on the button for Test My Shields!. There's also a button
 there for a minimal Port scan.


 No download of any software should be required.


 HTH,
 Tim




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Re: [SLE] mounting and formating a second Hdd (hdb)

2001-09-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Matt:

Could this be due to an older BIOS?

What does Windows/DOS fdisk report?

What does Linux fdisk or cfdisk report?

I confess I have not followed the thread so I amy be way off the target 
here.

Regards,

Glenn


On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:29, you wrote:
 Ahhh spoke to soon...

 I have seem to have a problem the disk size is 18G
 however when I run fdisk it seems to only see 130 cylinders
 which relates to 1044244+ blocks.

 However there are 4 partitions on the disk 2 x 5G and
 3 x 1G all formatted under Windows98.

 If I fdisk the disk under linux SuSE7.2 I can only create
 a 1G partition.

 Any ideas ?

 Regards

 Matt

 Matt wrote:
  Wow thats great.
 
  Question formatting..
 
  mke2fs -cv /dev/hdb1
  formats to e2fs.
 
  How do you format to vfat ?
 
  Regards
 
  Matt
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jostein Berntsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:10 PM
  To: Matt; suse-linux-e
  Subject: RE: [SLE] mounting and formating a second Hdd (hdb)
 
  Hi,
 
  Here is a short and concise explantion:
 
  http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue38/cooper.html
 
  Jostein
 
  = Original Message From Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
  Hi,
  
  I have a removable hdd it is seen by boot
  but I am unable to mount it.
  
  mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /hdd2
  wrong or bad block device I think was the returning error
  
  Question
  
  How do I mount it and always mount it when I boot up
  I think I have to alter the /etc/fstab file.
  
  Also I would like to reformat one partition on the
  drive as linux (it has 3 partitions all vfat at present).
  
  Also is there a control center command or tool for this ?
  
  Step by step instructions please.
  
  Regards
  
  Matt

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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Bruce:

Thanks for the scan and analysis.  I found a couple of my old books on 
TCP/IP (published in '91 and '92 respectively), but could not find the 
one called 'Internet Security and Firewalls' so I will be browsing 
amazon.com for something along those lines.

If anyone has a favorite title or recommendation, I'd like to hear it 
while I'm in a browsing mode.

Best regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:23, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2001 11:30 am, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Thanks, Tim:
 
  Obviously I did not read the info on the grc site carefully.  I'll
  give that a try.
 
  Regards,
 
  Glenn

 Here's your NMAP scan:

 Starting nmap V. 2.53 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( www.insecure.org/nmap/
 ) RTTVAR has grown to over 2.3 seconds, decreasing to 2.0
 Interesting ports on  (66.55.21.94):
 (The 1522 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
 Port   State   Service
 23/tcp opentelnet

 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2228
 seconds


 One port open...  and just the port you don't want open.

 And here's what I got when I tried to telnet to it:

 bmarsh@linux1:~  telnet xxx.xx.21.94
 Trying xxx.xx.21.94...
 Connected to xxx.xx.21.94.
 Escape character is '^]'.


 User Access Verification
 Password:*
 Password:**
 Password:


 Didn't ask for a userid  so maybe this is your router responding  and
 it just needs a password.

 In any event, looks like your pretty well protected.

 +
+ + Bruce S. Marshall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Bellaire, MI
 09/05/01 12:20  +
 +
+ Murphy's Eighth Corollary:
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools
   are so ingenious.
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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Joseph:

Yep - I took note of that when I read the info on the web site - or 
perhaps it was in the README.  Anyhow, thanks for the 'heads-up.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 03 September 2001 23:29, you wrote:
 fyi the original linuxcare BBC developers have left linuxcare and are
 now updating their product under the LNX BBC name.

 http://www.lnx-bbc.org/

 Glenn Williams wrote:
 Hi, Collins:
 
 That's exactly what I was looking for.  Mucho gracias.
 
 Regards,
 
 Glenn

[snip]

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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Joel:

I followed your suggestion, and the results are meaningless to me; the 
output gave a list of sources and destinations, and the IP addresses 
were all 0.0.0.0s.  Port 53 figured prominently in the output also, if 
that has any significance.

I am nearly 8 years away from my amateur packet radio experience with 
TCP/IP and I have forgotten what little I knew.

I am grateful for your reply.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 03 September 2001 22:45, you wrote:
  I set up the Personal Firewall a while ago and now I'm wondering
  how I can tell if it's working.  I edited the appropriate file a la
  the configuration manual, to enable it.  It is non-configurable;
  it's either on or off.  A look at /var/log/boot.msg yielded the
  following

 Is this ipchains? If so, there are ways to look at it to tell if it
 is working.
 ipchains -L -vn | less for example. Do it in an xterm with font set
 to medium.
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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Bruce:

I appreciate the offer.  However, my ISP uses a DHCP server, so I dunno 
how we could do that using my IP address.  Cann one use the current 
dynamic address for that purpose?

Regards,

Glenn

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 06:34, you wrote:
 On Monday 03 September 2001 07:38 am, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Hi, Bruce:
 
  Thanks for the info.  I went to 'vulnerabilities' web site and
  initiated a scan of my ISP, not knowing what else to use for a host
  address to be scanned.  It returned the following result:

 You would want to put in your own IP number as determined by the use
 of the ifconfig command.

 However, my scan too timed out.   Don't know what their problem is.

 Next choice would be to get someone else to run the scan for you.   
 I'd be glad to do it if we can coordinate.   You'd have to send me
 your IP address via email   and I'd run the scan.

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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Bruce:

Busy morning - later getting back to you.  Here's the output of 
'ifconfig' (long form):



eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:47:95:E1:B5

  inet addr:10.0.0.2  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  ^^^
  inet6 addr: fe80::203:47ff:fe95:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
  inet6 addr: fe80::3:4795:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:72619 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:8775 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:9553606 (9.1 Mb)  TX bytes:1018790 (994.9 Kb)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0xf000

Thanks.

Regards, 

Glenn



On Tuesday 04 September 2001 09:56, you wrote:
 On Monday 03 September 2001 10:32 am, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Hi, Bruce:
 
  I appreciate the offer.  However, my ISP uses a DHCP server, so I
  dunno how we could do that using my IP address.  Cann one use the
  current dynamic address for that purpose?

 Yes...  you would:

 1) Connect up and stay connected.

 2) Do an ifconfig to find your current IP address.

 3) Send me email with same.

 4) I run the scan.



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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Bruce:

Sorry - I guess I neglected to mention - as of last Thursday I am on 
DSL - hot all the time.  No dial-up or dial-on-demand.

Anything else I should furnish?

Regards,

Glenn


On Tuesday 04 September 2001 12:03, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 September 2001 01:42 pm, Glenn Williams wrote:
  Hi, Bruce:
 
  Busy morning - later getting back to you.  Here's the output of
  'ifconfig' (long form):

 Well yes,   but don't you dial up on the phone??   I would need the
 ppp0 part of the ifconfig  output.   The  10.0.0.2  address must be
 your local LAN address.

  eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:47:95:E1:B5
 
inet addr:10.0.0.2  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
^^^
inet6 addr: fe80::203:47ff:fe95:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
inet6 addr: fe80::3:4795:e1b5/10 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:72619 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:8775 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:9553606 (9.1 Mb)  TX bytes:1018790 (994.9 Kb)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xf000
 
  Thanks.
 
  Regards,
 
  Glenn
 
  On Tuesday 04 September 2001 09:56, you wrote:
   On Monday 03 September 2001 10:32 am, Glenn Williams wrote:
Hi, Bruce:
   
I appreciate the offer.  However, my ISP uses a DHCP server, so
I dunno how we could do that using my IP address.  Cann one use
the current dynamic address for that purpose?
  
   Yes...  you would:
  
   1) Connect up and stay connected.
  
   2) Do an ifconfig to find your current IP address.
  
   3) Send me email with same.
  
   4) I run the scan.
  
  
  
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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

Bruce and Tim:

Thanks for your help and comments.  More info follows, below:

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 13:32, you wrote:

[snip]

 Hey Glenn:

 I assume you have only one nic card in your machine

 What is the output of your 'route' command?

 The problem is to find out what your IP address is on the far side of
 whatever box you have connected to eth0

 You might also try:traceroute  yourisp.com   and see whether we
 can determine anything from that.

Bruce:

The 'route' command yields a *totally* blank routing table.  
'Traceroute' gives:

traceroute to www.cybermesa.com (209.12.73.3), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
packets
 1  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 2  66.55.21.1 (66.55.21.1)  51 ms  56 ms  56 ms
 3  www.cybermesa.com (209.12.73.3)  56 ms  54 ms  56 ms

FYI:  I rebooted into windoze and downloaded IP Agent (IP_Agent.exe) 
from grc.com and ran it from windoze.  It said that addresses such as 
mine (10.0.0.2 - current dynamic address) are recyclable, and 
unreachable from the external public Internet, and thus secure against 
typical threats and discovery from passing Internet scanners.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: Personal firewall

2001-09-04 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 04 September 2001 16:49, you wrote:

 Try this sometime:


  1)  Send me an email that you are about to:

 2)  telnet  bmarsh.com

 I can then match up the email time with the time that I find someone
 knocking on my door..

 Just for grins


Okay, Bruce:

Here goes...  I don't know what to expect, so I'll just 'wing it.'
It is 5:42 MDT.
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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-03 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Collins:

That's exactly what I was looking for.  Mucho gracias.

Regards,

Glenn

On Sunday 02 September 2001 07:05, you wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 05:33:56 -0600 Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Hi, Collins:
 
  My CD-R/RW is EIDE/ATAPI, but with scsi emulation enabled in LILO.
 
  I remember seeing (a long time back (which for my 70 year old
  memory could mean 'last night')), something about how to find out
  if my dev=0,0 or what - but I can't remember what I saw or where to
  find it.
  I'd like to try the command line version.

 Enter 'cdrecord --scanbus'.  You will get a display similar to this

 0,0,0 0) 'HP  ' 'CD-Writer+ 9100 ' '1.0c' Removable
 CD-ROM
 0,1,0 1) 'I/OMAGIC' ' 48SB CD-ROM' 'M2.8' Removable
 CD-ROM
 0,2,0 2) *
   . . .

 The last two digits in 0,0,0 are the digits to use in dev=0,0.

 Good luck.
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Personal firewall

2001-09-03 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

I am running SuSE 7.2 Pro on an Intell P3 @ 450MHz w/ 128M memory.  
My DSL ethernet card is an Intel eePro 10/100.  DSL is working just 
dandy, thank you very much.

I set up the Personal Firewall a while ago and now I'm wondering how I 
can tell if it's working.  I edited the appropriate file a la the 
configuration manual, to enable it.  It is non-configurable; it's 
either on or off.  A look at /var/log/boot.msg yielded the following 
line:

Starting personal-firewall  (initial)   [active]done

However, the word active is grayed or dimmed.

Anyone see anything similar in their lash-up?

TIA

Regards,

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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Hello, Lonni and the Group:


On Sunday 02 September 2001 00:04, you wrote:


 This is your problem.  You didn't burn an ISO image.  You burnt the
 file instead.

I followed these steps when when I downloaded the file lxcr-lbt-2_0.iso 
from the Linuxcare site:

Downloaded the file and the MD5 checksum to my Windows/Downloads   
 
  directory

Downloaded the file and MD5 checksum to /home/gaw/ directory in Linux

Verified checksums of both downloaded files

Copied file in Windows to a CD-R disk using Adaptec's Easy CD Creator  
  ISO9660 format

Copied file in Linux to a CD-R disk using Xcdroast ISO9660 file format

Verified MD5 checksum on both CD copies.

Checked CMOS settings on both Linux boxes to be sure they were set to  
  boot from CD

Attemted to boot both machines from Linuxcare Emergency Rescue CD.

Both attempts failed.

Read SuSE 7.2 Pro Applications Manual pages on Xcdroast.

Read CD-Writing HOWTO.

I still don't know what I did wrong.  Anyone care to offer a 
step-by-step on how to get this done?


  I used xcdroast to make the ISO9660 CD on one trial, and I used
  Adaptec
  Easy CD Creator v. 3.5 to create another ISO9660 CD (in windoze, of
  course).
 
  If there needs to be boot files added from a boot floppy to the CD
  to make it bootable, I am sure you would have made that clear
  earlier.

 Nothing needs to be added.  The ISO has all the files.  You just need
 to burn it correctly.

  Now I wonder if I have a corrupt image.

 Possible, but unlikely.  THis sounds like user-error to me.

[snip]


 Linux FAQ  Step-by-step help:http://netllama.ipfox.com

The above link returns a message like 'temporarily unavailable.'

[snip]

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Since the file I downloaded was already an .iso file, should I have 
used the Rock Ridge extensions to transfer the file to the CD with 
Xcdroast?

Just an afterthought.

Regards,

Glenn


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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

On Sunday 02 September 2001 15:53, Bruce Marshall wrote:

 I did much the same but didn't mess with the  MD5 stuff.   Used
 xcdroast to write the image to a CD.

 I haven't booted it yet but it looks good when I mount it.  Been
 playing with the floppy you can build to boot it.

 Anyway, sounds like your method for writing the CD isn't correct.  It
 took me awhile to figure out how to do it with xcdroast.

 You need to go to the setup...and place the directory where your
 image is into the HD settings areas.

 Then save that and go to the main menu and 'create CD'

 Under CD/image info  you should find your image listed on the right.

 Then go to  'Write Tracks'  and  'layout tracks'  and select your
 image and 'add' it.

 Accept track layout and then under  'write tracks'   do a 'write it'.

 It is NOT intuitive.

Hi, Bruce:

Thanks for responding.  I'm gonna give your suggestions a try right 
now.  I'll letcha know 'was gibt' shortly.

Regards,

Glenn

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Linuxcare RE CD - SUCCESS!

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Hey, Group:

Thanks to Lonni, Collins, and others, and especially to Bruce, whose 
suggestions were just what I needed to see where I went wrong.

I made two copies (just because I *could*!!! very broad grin).  They 
work on both machines.

Prolly something about my HP writer, but X-cdroast would not work with 
the Disk-At-Once option; I had to choose Track-At-Once to light the 
pilot light.

Way to go, guys.  Thanks again.

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Collins:

My CD-R/RW is EIDE/ATAPI, but with scsi emulation enabled in LILO.

I remember seeing (a long time back (which for my 70 year old memory 
could mean 'last night')), something about how to find out if my 
dev=0,0 or what - but I can't remember what I saw or where to find it.  
I'd like to try the command line version.

Can you help?

Regards,

Glenn

On Sunday 02 September 2001 03:58, you wrote:
 On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 03:39:48 -0600 Glenn Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Hi, Group:
 
  Since the file I downloaded was already an .iso file, should I have
  used the Rock Ridge extensions to transfer the file to the CD with
  Xcdroast?

 All that gui stuff is complications you don't need.  All I did was
 download the iso file (Opera), su, cd to the directory with the iso
 file, and 'cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0 xxx.iso', and
 success.

 With my HP cd-writer, I get toasters if I use speed faster than 2. 
 My CD-RW is 0,0; yours may vary.  You may even have a true scsi;
 mine's an ide jobber.

 Good luck.

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Re: Linuxcare RE CD - SUCCESS!

2001-09-02 Thread Glenn Williams

Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!

Subject line in last message should have read:

ER CD - SUCCESS!

instead of:

RE CD - SUCCESS!

Sorry.

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-01 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Lonni:

I am at a different machine, so this is a new message, not a reply 
generated by Kmail.

Yes, I can boot both Linux machines from a CD, and I had that option 
enabled in CMOS setup when I tried the CD in each machine.

I can mount the CD and list the contents with ls -l or the Konqueror 
file manager in su mode.  It shows a single file - ER-iso.

I used xcdroast to make the ISO9660 CD on one trial, and I used Adaptec 
Easy CD Creator v. 3.5 to create another ISO9660 CD (in windoze, of 
course).

If there needs to be boot files added from a boot floppy to the CD to 
make it bootable, I am sure you would have made that clear earlier.

Now I wonder if I have a corrupt image.

Can you tell me where you originally downloaded the image?  Maybe I 
should try to get a fresh, clean copy, and begin anew.

Thanks.

Regards, 

Glenn
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Re: Linuxcare ER CD

2001-09-01 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Just before supper, I went to the web and did a Google search for 
Linuxcare, and found a downloadable image of the ER CD, and the MD5 
checksum for same.

I downloaded them during supper.  Tomorrow I will burn the CD using the 
new image and post the results here.

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: mouse help please

2001-08-23 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Ron:

I did not see any answers to the three questions you posed in this 
post. I'm not sure I can answer them, either.  I am posting the 
relevant sections of /etc/X11/XF86Config, and /etc.XF86Config

from the /etc/X11XF86Config file:

Section InputDevice
  Drivermouse
  IdentifierMouse[1]
  OptionDevice/dev/mouse
  OptionProtocol  imps/2
EndSection


and from the /etc/XF86Config file:

Section Pointer
  Device/dev/psaux
  ZAxisMapping  4 5
  Protocol  imps/2
EndSection

Now I am wondering if you'll have to go back to the Installation 
routine to see if you can change the mouse (without doing a complete 
re-install.  Your mouse is a USB device, and mine is a PS/2, so the 
entries in the config file will be different, of course.  (Did your 
mouse come with a USB/PS/2 cable adapter?)

My hunch is that the /etc/XF86Config is the one you want to edit, since 
it was automatically generated by SaX during the installation.

Sorry I can't help.

Regards,

Glenn


On Wednesday 22 August 2001 06:33 pm, Ron White observed:
 Hi,
 I installed SuSE 7.2 a few days ago while I was using an older serial
 mouse. I later got a Logitech usb optical mouse and I have been
 trying to install it
 without success.

[snip]


 Question 1 - Which of the two XF86Config files do I change to install
 this mouse -
/etc/X11/XF86Config  or  /etc/XF86Config?

 Question 2 - Can I add a second Section InputDevice for the new
 mouse so the old mouse will still work in case I goof up the new
 section?

 Question 3 - What should be in the Section InputDevice for the new
 mouse?

 Thank you for any help you can give me.

 Ron

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Re: SOLVED! Re: I'm in LILO hell

2001-08-22 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Lonni:

Well, it took a long time to download, but that's the least of my 
problems.  Now I can't find it.

When I clicked the URL, it just began the file transfer in a small 
dialog box with a progress bar.  I never did see a file name, but I 
assumed it would go to my home directory, and rationalized  that a 47.5 
M file shouldn't be too hard to identify.

Maybe I'll just download it again tonight over the faster of the 2 
phone lines, when there's no chance anyone will be using the phone.

Anyway, thanks for making it available.

Regards,

Glemm

On Tuesday 21 August 2001 05:36 pm, Net Llama observed:
 I thought i posted the URL, but since so many are still asking for
 it, i'll post it again:
 ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/support/lfriedman/disk/

 Please let me know if you have any problems downloading and/or
 burning it to a CD.

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Re: SOLVED! Re: I'm in LILO hell

2001-08-21 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 21 August 2001 10:04 am, Net Llama observed:


[snip]

 So i booted off of a very, very handy
 Linuxcare Emergency boot CD (think Tom's RBD on crack).  Its a 40MB
 CD the size of a business card that has basically 95% of /sbin, /bin
  /usr on it, making it a mini-OS on a CD.  Anyone interested in
 getting an ISO of this CD, let me know, and i will gladly post it
 somewhere publicly accessible.  Granted, you'd not be able to squeeze
 it onto the business card shaped CD, but it would  still be a life
 saver.  I personally find TRBD a royal PITA, since it has very
 limited tools on it.  anyway, i digress...

[mehr schnippen]

Hi, Lonnie:

Glad you are up and running again.

I would like a copy of the Linuxcare Emergency Boot CD.  I won't have 
broadband service for another 2 weeks or so, but I ought to be able to 
download 40MB with a dialup modem okay - so I am definitely interested.

TIA

Regards,

Glenn

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Re: I'm in LILO hell

2001-08-20 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Jerry:

I wonder if there's a way to get this info into the SxS.  If you have 
the URL handy, send it to me and I'll take a look at it with that in 
mind.  I'll check google.com in the meantime.

I'd have to know more about the rules for SxS vis-avis copyright, 
plagiarism, etc.

I think it would be nice to put the information where is't most 
accessible.

Regards,

Glenn

On Sunday 19 August 2001 10:19 pm, Jerry McBride observed:
 There's a HARD DISK UPGRADE MINI-HOW-TO on the linux documentation
 project website that goes into detail how to copy one hard drive to
 another... making the
 target harddrive bootable. It covers how to fool lilo into writing
 the boot info where
 you want it, on the newly created disk...

 Makes for great reading and a neat way to mirror linux harddrives.
 You can commit
 the process to a bash script if you wish even. :')

 Cheers, Jerry.

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Re: you guys see this?

2001-08-18 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

I read it - but did not understand half of what I read.  I suppose it's 
unfortunate that I never studied CommerSpeak; I am intellectually 
challenged in that area.

His Desktop seems to have taken on a meaning that's diametrically 
opposed to the traditional meaning, or at least vastly different from 
my understanding of the term.

FWIW - my 2 kopecks' worth.

Regards,

Glenn

On Friday 17 August 2001 08:41 pm, dep observed:
 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2805330,00.html

 ransome on the desktop.

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Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!

2001-08-15 Thread Glenn Williams

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 22:28, you wrote:
 Re: Administrivia - Everyone please read!



 It's truly odd that some folks can be offended (to the point of
 unsubscribing) by something as natural as the human body, even in the
 least provactive of poses... while yet others (such as those in the
 incident outlined above) insist on turning it into something lurid
 and unclean. People are the funniest of animals.

Hi, burns and group:

Looked like FINE ART to me...  And I am ^not^ too old to give a damn.

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: Ode to the Spellchecker OT

2001-08-13 Thread Glenn Williams

This is marvelous, Mike; definitely a keeper!
ROFLOL

Regards,

Glenn

On Sunday 12 August 2001 09:10 pm, Mike Andrew observed:
 You don't deserve this but, for the benefit of our literary genuises
 on this list (no names but their initials begin with Dep, Kurt,
 Bandel)

 I submit the following for their consideration when writing their
 next book.

 Ode To The Spell Checker
 
 Eye halve a spelling checker
 It came with my pea sea
 It plainly marks for my revue
 Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

 Eye strike a key and type a word
 And weight four it two say
 Weather eye am wrong oar write
 It shows me strait a weigh.

 As soon as a mist ache is maid
 It nose bee fore two long
 And eye can put the error rite
 Its rare lea ever wrong.

 Eye have run this poem threw it
 I am shore your pleased two no
 Its letter perfect awl the weigh
 My checker tolled me sew.

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Re: Ode to the Spellchecker OT

2001-08-13 Thread Glenn Williams

No, it was Andrew Jackson who said that.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 13 August 2001 10:45 am, Bill Campbell observed:
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 07:38:49AM -0600, Glenn Williams wrote:

 Wasn't it Mark Twain who said that anybody who could only spell a
 word one way lacked imagination?

 Bill

[snip]

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Re: External CD-RW question

2001-08-08 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Trevor:

Point your browser to:

http://www.linux.nf/stepbystep.htm

and in the index on the left side of the page you will find a listing 
for CD Burners.  I also suggest you bookmark this site.  It's an 
excellent resource.

I don't know about drives connected to the parallel port.  That may be 
a separate issue.  But again, I suggest you begin looking at the SxS 
site.

Since you don't say which distro you are running, I don't know where 
the doc files are on your machine, but you might also look in your /usr 
directory and subdirectories for anything related to CD-R / CD-RW 
drives.

HTH

Regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 03:53 am, Trevor Stuart observed:
 I have an external HP CD-RW attached to a parallel port.
 It works under M$ but I'm wanting to move to a linux only
 environment. So, how do I set this up under linux?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Many thanks in advance.
 Trevor Stuart


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Re: adobe pdf virus

2001-08-08 Thread Glenn Williams

The article reference that was posted here (yesterday?) said it does 
^^not^^ work in Acrobat Reader - only in the full Acrobat program.

FWIW

Regards,

Glenn

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 09:00 am, Stuart Biggerstaff observed:
 Actually, the way I read this, the script is embedded in the PDF. 
 Not clear on whether it only works with Acrobat full, or if it works
 in Reader, but you just have to double-click the link instead of just
 clicking.

 At 09:56 AM 8/8/01 +0800, you wrote:
 it uses the PDF extension only so that file association could
 get the script executed...right?
 
 Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
 not sure if this is real but it sounds like it is.
 http://www.coderz.net/zulu/outlook.pdfworm.txt
 
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Re: Floppy boot disk boot options

2001-08-06 Thread Glenn Williams

On Monday 06 August 2001 11:35 am, Mike Andrew observed:

 [snip]


 I don't have much experience with rescue boots fortunate grin The
 one that works for me is generally via a cd rom boot (any distro)
 and goes

 linux number root=/dev/hd?? nointrd

Mike:

Hmmm.  That's interesting.

May we have an example of number in the line above, please?  Is it 
the kernel version number, or the distro number, or you fill in the 
blanks, please.

Thanks.
Regards,

Glenn

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Floppy boot disk boot options

2001-08-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

I've spent all morning looking for a list of options that will be 
accepted at the boot: prompt, when booting from a home brew or boxed 
set boot disk.

Can anyone help?

Regards,

Glenn
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Re: Peculiar email received and backgrounds in kde

2001-08-05 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Skippy:

Yes, it is one of the current crop of virii and worms.  I read the 
description a few days ago, but did not retain much of what I read.  
The request for advice is its hallmark.

Doubtless someone on the list will furnish all the gory details.

Regards,

Glenn


On Sunday 05 August 2001 03:43 pm, Keith Antoine observed:
 Umm, I am I guess niave when it comes to virii and worms. Just in
 case I took a does of combatrin today, just in case I had been
 infected by worms.

 After i had installed the WS 3.1 and started it up and got kmail
 working, I downloaded mail and also sent a message to say i was
 backup in Linux. I saw a mail notificaion in the list::-
 slamdunk 1   Sun Aug 52001

 The name alerted me, so I looked at it::- (I have only included the
 text)





 slamdunk
 From: 1[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 05:25:26 +0900


 --168E5737_Outlook_Express_message_boundary
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Content-Disposition: message text

 Hi! How are you=3F

 I send you this file in order to have your advice

 See you later=2E Thanks

 --168E5737_Outlook_Express_message_boundary
 Content-Type: application/mixed; name=slamdunk.zip.bat
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 Content-Disposition: attachment;  filename=slamdunk.zip.bat

 After this is a coded area ending with a another::
 Outlook_express_message_boundary  (comment)

 It was a bit hard to get rid of and the computer slowed down. I am
 guessing that its a virus of some type, but seeing it was undone in
 linux it was not operative, even though it seemed to try.

 BTW I have not destroyed this as yet.

 On another tack entirely, I had backgrounds working but saw that they
 were not those I had listed. They were coming from the same area but
 it was giving me 'all' and not a selection I had made. I stopped this
 and now once again no backgrounds, I assume this is a kde problem.

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Re: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers

2001-07-12 Thread Glenn Williams
No change, burns.  It still looks the same.

Are others reporting a strange-looking font?  If not, I might need to 
change my reader config.

Regards,

Glenn

On Thursday 12 July 2001 05:28 am, you wrote:
 Glenn Williams wrote:
  The font still looks like that on an xt console here.

 Just now had time to get back to this.

 How's this then?

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Re: Stupid newbie network question

2001-07-11 Thread Glenn Williams

It seems to me the SxS is more dynamic, as well as often more specific 
than the HOW-TOs.  Also, they were written to be read by folks.

At least, that's my 'take.'

Regards,

Glenn.

On Wednesday 11 July 2001 10:17 am, you wrote:
 Tim Wunder wrote:
 SNIP

  Then again, I wonder if there's a How-To already in existence at
  LDP... I'll read this,
  http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Remote-X-Apps.html, at first
  glance it looks promising.
 
  Regards,
  Tim
 
  PS Now that the SxS is distro-agnostic, what is the REAL difference
  between it, and the How-To's?

 The amount of time it takes to make use of the information.  Most of
 the HOWTO's are long on theory and short on example.

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Re: General question regarding formatting floppies...

2001-07-10 Thread Glenn Williams

Roger, Dodger

The /u switch for unconditional format was added with MS-DOS 5.0

Regards

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 09:48 pm, you wrote:
 FYI. DOS 6.22 (and 5.0?) also got un-conditional format
 if I remember corretly.
 I think /u was added after DOS 4 when unformat become available.

  Furthermore, I mistakenly stated that DOS 7.0 will not accept
  format a:/u whereas I just proved to myself that it will.  
  However, DOS 6.22 will not.

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Re: Can't read floppy disk

2001-07-10 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Mike:

Before I screw around with this SuSE 7.2 boot disk (which is currently 
my only means to boot the system) I will need to go into YaST2 and make 
another boot disk.

(Does anyone else get the feeling that someone at SuSE has had problems 
with their Shift or CapsLock keys?)

According to fdisk, there are several partitions with different file 
types, among which are both Unix and Linux.

Thanks for the info.  Also, thanks to others for their suggestions.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 05:06 pm, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 July 2001 05:41, Tom Wilson wrote:
  Glenn Williams wrote:
   Hi, Michael:
  
   No, the mount point is actually /media/floppy (see the fstab
   entry below in my original message).  I could edit the fstab and
   change it to

 [snip]

 'auto' will only work if the module for the detected file system is
 already loaded. eg vfat, ntfs, whatever. (Bare in mind this statement
 like all thingz Linux, changes within one week)

 Seems like you have a catch 22 where you don't know the fs to use in
 order to load the module grin.

 use fsck man options or fdisk to 'discover' what this floppy
 actually is.

 PS: I didn't understand your reference to read only.

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Re: Can't read floppy disk

2001-07-10 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Group:

Many thanks to all who responded to the many e-mails on this subject.

The problem is with that particular floppy disk.  The SuSE install 
program offers to create a boot floppy and also to write the LILO 
information to the same disk.  The disk was somehow corrupted and had 
no identifiable file system(s) on it.

I made another boot floppy and the system mounted and read it without 
difficulty.

Sheesh!

Best regards,

Glenn


On Monday 09 July 2001 06:57 pm, you wrote:
 Ok so try this then:

 mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy

 stayler

 On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:18:43 -0600, Glenn Williams wrote:
  mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
 
 and it produced the following error message:
 
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
or too many mounted file systems
 
 I tried it as su also, although that should not have been necessary.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion

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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

2001-07-10 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Rick:

Could this be a problem processing stage 1 (or beyond) of GRUB?

Regards,

Glenn

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:28 am, you wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:26, you wrote:
  Collins
 
  2 Quick questions,
 
  1.
  I have followed you SxS for 2.4.3 Kernel build except I am
  building 2.4.6.  When I issue the following:
  make dep  make clean  make bzImage 
  make modules  make modules_install
 
  a complete compile to objects is performed, but it appears we are
  linking to a wrong library here, there are a lot of the depmod: ***
  Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/ listings. I
  beleive there was a thread about a month or so back about headers
  for kernels. Could this be my problem here?
 
  depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
  /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/pcmcia/ide_cs.o depmod:
  ide_unregister
  depmod: ide_register
 
  Directory containing the source:
  /projects/src/linux2.4.6off of the root /  I am in root
 
 
  2.
 
 Just Installed the e-Workstation 3.1 to a new system. Installed
  as per ed 2.4 great. Setup system thru Control Panel great Printing
  Samba telnet all are great. Now reboot system as to come back up on
  line as normal system. I get the following error message
 
  stage 1 Hard Disk Error
 
  Any one have a clue. This drive did start with e-server 3.1 beta
  install ok. Then install new 3.1 release.
 
  Thanks

 List
 please ignore #1  fixed

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Re: Can't read floppy disk

2001-07-09 Thread Glenn Williams

Hi, Lonni:

I tried your version of the mount command:

mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy 

and it produced the following error message:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
   or too many mounted file systems

I tried it as su also, although that should not have been necessary.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 01:28 pm, you wrote:
 My guess is that that floppy was formatted as ext2, which is why
 windoze can't read it.  Does this work:
 mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy

[snip]


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