Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
begin Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:51:39 -0800) On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:16:29AM -0500, Matthew Carpenter wrote: unless of course you meant to type rm -rf *.bak and accidently typed rm -rf * (and hit return prematurely) DOH! slaps himself in the face for past mistakes Experience is the best teacher :-). Only for those willing to learn :) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Yeah, sure. So I can have users losing entire directories. I will never forget the time I was called frantically to restore accounting information to someone's server because it was missing. It being on NetWare I attempted a Salvage, but couldn't find anything to salvage. Well Chief, to make a long story short, someone had dragged the directory into one of the surrounding subdirectories. While Konqueror would have asked Move, Copy, Link, Exploder didn't think to and simply moved it. DOH! begin Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:00:20 +1130) On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 05:21, Bill Campbell wrote: I learned a long time ago (1) to always ``cd'' to a directory before doing an ``rm *'' in that directory instead of ``rm dir/*'' since a space after the slash does nasty things, and (2) to think really hard before using the ``*'' to make sure I've typed it correctly. This is where a gui widget helps. A delete widget (button or icon) is context sensitive, it might operate on some highighted info, or many other criteria. The only thing context sensitive about the cli method is the current path (dot)(slash) A gui widget learns from it's mistakes. Ie it is automated better by each iteration of the code underlying it. It might do self checks, it might 'understand' what can / can't be deleted, it might be full bloat and actually do hidden backups. Point being, it can be automated with intelligence. The same intelligence you have to 'learn', it can too. The difference is the gui widget is an accumulator of knowledge. It doesnt forget, or make typos, or unlearn. You can create this fundamental, identically, using cli script. Ie overwriting the basic rm command with an alias to a written script of your own which would exhibit the same strengths as a gui-widget (because basically all scripts are widgets). Where the gui method differs is that all possible options (can be) presented in your face so to speak, with radio buttons or check boxes. There's nothing different about using 'no operator intelligence required' gui button and an equally 'no intelligence required' script. Both are implemented with the same goal in mind. But give me a gui anyday to remove the typos, and remind me, of all possible options that I can't remember, or much much worse, how to present them, on the command line. Secondly, a gui widget is a token. A picture of a crimson pink elephant means something. awk, grep, Grep, grEp, GRep, and grePpp mean nothing and are impossible to remember (the classic cp -r ... and chown -R .) Using a mouse (gui), or, using the up-arrow (cli), has the same degree of laziness, except mice can't type miStakeZ. The idea of 'you can type the command quicker and easier', frankly, fills me with horror. Been there dun that, and recovered. SOME installations ban all use of the cli for this reason. (VisaCard servers eg). *nix makes much of the security aspect linux won't let you.. This is fuddelbunk when it comes to individual users. Linux very weak in protecting a user from himself. The idea that a scientist deleting his 2,000 page thesis by accident is 'too stupid to use a computer' doesn't wash well. Up arrows create havoc each day every day. One final thing to say about gui widgets is there is a disconnect between the command option and the literal. With cli, once you determine that --elephants means ignore timeouts, that's it. In most cases, 'elephants' is position sensitive as well. You can't change the name, nor it's position relative to other commands (without serious wurries). Filenames are particularly notorious, eg copy this = that, or is it copy that-this ? With a gui, the visual front end can be radio-button-elephants and next version radio-button:giraffes if that has more contextual sense, and options have no position sensitivy. A text box saying input file name is pretty clear. This means that revision of a gui widget doesn't automatically break the underlying code, nor, does it inhibit revision. The dangers inherent in changing how a cli verb operates has indeed prevented many of them from being revised and is the reason why we cannot have a uniform set of -a, -b -c switches. They can't even agree on --help, /h -h, --H, -i, --I, -v or -vV. The F1 key is agreed on. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business
Re: MySQL front ends, was: Re: no printing from kmail
By Front End do you mean something like Access has for it's own databases? With most SQL RDBMS's you will find that the best front end for them is a GUI tool which allows you to send SQL commands in a simple way. For this, I like KMySQL. Other than that, you aren't going to find any Access-like front ends for real database servers. Even Access won't allow you to create databases and tables on MSSQL servers. You still have to use the tools for the DBMS, some of which are better than others. begin David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:08:15 -0500) On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:38:23 +1130 begin Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:18, Ted Ozolins wrote: Aside from tutorials on the web, and help from some local programmers, I'll be attempting to set up Mysql for this. sometimes I practice really really hard to be an idiot. This is one where I went the extra mile and outdid myself. I cannot find *anything* out there in gui land that even begins to do it. All this talk about mysql etc is find and good but what front end are you going to use. I've tried Kylix, hk_classes, even kde's not-for-public-consumption Kbase, I cannot find a single front end that will let me enter data into a (mysql) dbase or any other 'server'. And it's this that gets me really really confuzed because, if there's a server such as mysql, where the hell is the front end for it? What obvious bit have I missed? xmysql, webmin mysql module, phpmysqladmin, and there are others (tk module, ...) Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: new ibm ad
Speaking of all this I just read a good article from NetworkWorld on Linux in the Enterprise, and I have to give you this quote: On Windows NT/2000 servers, we wind up just prophylactically rebooting servers and scheduling downtime once a week. - Joe Inzerillo United Center of Chicago Way to tell it like it is, Joe. above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Fw: gandalf.eisnet 02/06/02:15.45 system check
Thanks, Llama. The reason for 2.4.2 is because I attempt to stick with Caldera-stock kernels. Granted, I have not done any updates to this box since install... the reason is the reason for the last install (say that 10 times fast and it'll STILL sound impressively confusing). It's a long story but last time I upgraded everything the box no longer booted and I have had too much to do to worry about it. It'll take a few more times on other boxes before I feel secure again stress. I have a feeling this has something to do with a combination of things... partly having to do with the Mandrake box being bounced, and partly having to do with the Samba differences, and possibly kernel-related. I'll have to do another stab at the upgrade process. Any ideas on the CDROM icons? That flipped me out! Thanks again. On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:28:59 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, this is quite impressive. I've never heard of the system load hitting 618 before. I'll admit outright that i'm no samba guru, so if this is caused by Samba, i don't know that i'll be able to offer much assistance. That said, the first thing i'd do is disable Samba, and see if the problem returns. A few things that jumped out at me: 1) You're running some fairly old packages (samba kernel for starters). THat kernel has a known significant filesystem corruption bug. I can't think of any good reason to run a 2.4.2 kernel when a 2.4.17 kernel has been out for roughly 2 months. 2) The error below file-max limit 8192 reached kinda speaks volumes. Sounds like your box is opening alot of files at boot (for no reason apparent to me). 3) There are some known interoperability issues between really old and relatively new samba versions. Something you never commented upon is what (if any) changes you've made to the system recently. If you've made no changes, then i'd say that there are two possibilities: 1) Hardware failure 2) The system has been compromised, and someone is maliciously breaking things. SNIP _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Fw: gandalf.eisnet 02/06/02:15.45 system check
Please accept my apologies for cross-listing this. I have trimmed where I could. Basically the background info is like this: I have a machine running COLS3.1 with KDE2.2.1 and configured to do multiple duties, among which is being a workstation at times. Others duties include file/print, DNS/DHCP and mail-serving. I am mirroring a DNS config of about 1000 TLD's and about 10,000 domains total. This machine connects to other Samba machines and runs Samba 2.0.8. the primary machine it connects to is running MDK8.1 and Samba 2.2.2. The reason I mention this is that I have had occasions where filesystem oddities have occurred which look to have something to do with Samba-for instance, ll and df hang the shell. This box sits at my house, which is connected to the corporate network via routed ISDN (Cisco). Early this afternoon I watched the ISDN link fail from work as pings would drop going to this machine and to the router. When I called my wife, she said the link lights were not lit. I figured the telco had an issue and had the line called in. I came home to find the CH1 and CH2 lights still dark, and found this machine locked hard at the Matrix screen-saver (not moving of course). Getting on another box next to it, I was able to port scan it and find all the appropriate ports answering but no services responding. I attempted to ssh into it without any luck. Upon rebooting the system, I logged into KDE and found my desktop covered with ?-picted icons all over my screen and one overlapped group flashing (creating more) for like 5 minutes. They were various CDROM icons with names like CD-Drive 2yyuWjb.new and CD-Drive 20FfVjb.new. They were all 0-length files. When I was able to get this to settle down and get them deleted, I noticed this email from gandalf (the machine that locked-up) from LogCheck (an AWESOME app, I might add). Thank you for your time and I am sorry to waste your bandwidth. Matt ps. Please note that some of the shares mentioned in the logs are valid Samba mounts, some are valid NCP mounts (NetWare), and some are actual files and softlinks. It looks like the machine bounced once before locking up. begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 15:45:04 -0500 From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gandalf.eisnet 02/06/02:15.45 system check Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 6 13:25:57 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find gandalf/.directory failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:57 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:57 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:58 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //gandalf failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:58 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:58 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //SOFTWARE failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //SOFTWARE failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //GZ08 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //GZ08 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //linunity.pdf failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:25:59 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //linunity.pdf failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //IS01 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //IS01 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //silentm failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //silentm failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //WW29 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //WW29 failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //mgc failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //mgc failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //FIREWALL failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_retry: signal failed, error=-3 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf kernel: smb_lookup: find //FIREWALL failed, error=-5 Feb 6 13:26:00 gandalf
Re: some bits and trivia
begin Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:40:57 -0500) I have been trying to get hold of the latest release of Caldera to no avail. Their site is constantly full and the mirrors do not have the latest release still. Does any one out there have a copy of the 3 iso's as yet or know of a reachable site? Good luck.. I've had to use wget -cmt0 ftp://ftp.iso.caldera.com/pub/OpenLinux/3.1.1/ or something to that extent. Even then, it fails for what seems like forever and just keeps trying until it gets its chance. I'm currently d/ling the Workstation ISO(s?). I have the Server1 and Server2 and I18n ISO's . This is one big d/l The reason is that I am using Mandrake 8.1 after giving the Suse 7.3 Distro a flick due to incompatabilityies with my setup. Mandrake is far better with my h/w but still a few annoying glitches, the worst is vmware. I cannot get it to 'see' the local files and system files, even though I have setup as normal with other distros it works but not this one. It uses samba but i am unsure whether that is running, ps -aux does not show it up. How can I check ? Thing is that networking is enabled insofar as I can use nutscape to get to the net. ps ax |grep mbd will should bring up one or more instances of smbd and nmbd if Samba is running. I feel your pain about vmware. I have been trying to get it to work successfully on kernels configured for 64GB RAM. No go. (COLS) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
I agree whole-heartedly with everything you just said. Webmin and
webmin-like tools are excellent and will get even better as better
error-checking is written into the code. The biggest problem with Webmin
is that it is all done in perl. I'd like to see the main system rewritten
using J2EE (at least servlets) on Tomcat. I believe it would be much
faster (yes, Bevis, I said that Java would run faster than something). I
was comparing SSH to the GUI admin tools of lesser-fortunate OS'es like
Windows Terminal Services and Remotely imPossible. Things of that nature.
Web GUI's are where it's at for GUI over the internet, although the CLI
is still much more powerful. GUI makes it clean and neat and nifty... but
there ain't no grep, awk, perl, cut, {insert favorite CLI tool} in a web
GUI. Note that Novell NetWare will is heading toward complete Web GUI
administration as well. They have seen that light... and others. Look
for Novell to treat Linux as a normal desktop OS. I have heard relyable
rumors of Desktop admin tools for Linux Desktops in the very near future.
On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 10:07:08 -0600
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You make good points, Matthew. But seems to me that something Webmin-ish
should be able to run over most any link. Webmin, imho, is the best
candidate for a be-all administrator's gui tool. (Its many current
shortcomings notwithstanding).
But on the desktop I wish the likes of Mandrake, et al would stop
mucking with their very functional but utterly oddball things like
HardDrak and such. If we could put all their efforts into Kde Control
Center the issue could shortly be put into the solved problem file.
above URL.
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Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
Not that I am at all anti-GUI. But there are and will ALWAYS be good reasons for a CLI. For instance, there are simple CLI tools which can be combined in any number of ways to find information and sort/cut/copy/mail/fold/spindle/mutilate/etc... which would take a long time to create a GUI to do. Oftentimes the knowledgeable mind wishes to do something not commonly done but very time-saving and helpful (eg. manipulate a listing of a domain). He can spend time thinking of an extensible design for a GUI (which would allow him to add on in the future as different needs arose), or he could understand the tools that already exist (building-block tools) and go to bash and type: nslookup ls amway.com amway exit grep router amway and have a listing of every listing in the amway.com network that has the work router in it. Now if he wanted to change the formatting or pipe it into some other program or file, it's a simple couple key-strokes. Not that you couldn't do ALL these things in a GUI. But in that 30 seconds it just took you to do all that, it would take at least a week to write some code to do the same thing in a GUI and debug and extend and create a system which would allow you to be creative and change the output and routing/mangling next week. It just doesn't make good sense. Because you may never do the same thing twice. In order to build a GUI tool which does all that you need, it would take you hundreds of times longer than just using the tools for the flexibility that they offer. On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:39:15 -0700 Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:04 AM 2/4/2002, you wrote: Bovine defacation! Doug Gwyn put it best when he said ``GUIs make simple things simple, and complex things impossible''. Doug Gwyn was incorrect. Good GUI design makes everything simple. Bad GUI design makes doing anything unbearable. I'm not saying that GUIs aren't useful for many things, and I certainly would find life a lot harder without them. On the other hand, there are many things I can do much more easily and quickly from the command line than I can poking through endless menus and screens to accomplish the same thing. It's a lot easier to copy all the text files in a directory to a floppy by typing ``cp *.txt /auto/floppy'' than it is to select them with a GUI, right-click copy, go find the floppy in another file manager, then right-click paste. How many times have you been selecting files from a dialog box with ctrl-leftclick, only to let up on the ctrl key, and loose all the ones you had selected? While I've never had to use two file managers to copy files to a floppy I can certainly understand why you selected this task as one complicated by a GUI. Of course, I'm talking about GUI design and not existing GUI technology. One should be able to select a number of files and then send them to floppy with a one click affair. A five file transfer should take no more than six clicks, seven tops. I also commiserate with you on the multiple select problem, but consider how much time it would take to copy several files of varying extension types from different directories to a floppy. Some applications are by nature GUI. GUIs make the infrequently performed system administration jobs more convenient. GUIs make it extremely difficult if not impossible to automate jobs. I think you have this backwards. A CLI tool is fine for infrequent management tasks. You can call it easily from a console. You can add it to a script or automate it with cron or what have you. You can concatenate it with other tools. OTOH, a GUI is well suited to frequent tasks for reporting and administration. Being able to glance at an activity monitor or click once to add a user is a time saver. The best GUI administration tools are basically front ends for command line programs, and either display or log the commands they execute so that jobs that are done frequently can be repeated very quickly by putting those commands in a script. Here, I emphatically agree with you. And its really this that offers the best tool for what the user prefers. Prefer the CLI, use it. Want a GUI, here it is. Same tool, different interface. Then again, there are some tools that are, as you've stated before, decidedly GUI oriented. A paint or illustration tool ala GIMP is a good example. --- Tyler Regas PHM Editor-in-Chief [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pdahandyman.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:23:38 -0500 dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has a caldera-like desire to achieve and maintain stability. mandrake is in many ways little more than a broken red hat. Ouch! I thought RedHat was broken enough! _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:34:59 -0500 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that SuSE is common in Europe and 7.2 and 7.3 Pro are getting rave reviews as a server load, but for all intents and purposes, SuSE just doesn't exist in the North American corporate market. FWIW, I am running SuSE 7.2 Pro Maybe it's whiplash from their 6.x days when dieser dokumentation wast very Duetsche! Their broken english scared me off. They were the first distro I ever installed. Now I remember why Caldera is my first love. They were the second install (COL2.2) and the difference was night and day. (To say nothing of the fact that SuSE didn't get X working and COL was GUI from bootup/install. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
While I agree with some of what you said, Mike, I must add that as of February 4th, 2002, GUI apps for remote administration are still infants. They are relatively insecure and bloated in their use of bandwidth when compared with the their slick cousin, SSH. Yes, you can get lost in bash/etc... but that is because it is so powerful, as is the CLI. GUI's are great and I love to see more added to Linux all the time. I fight for Linux on the desktop and GUI-everything is what it is going to take. But when I administer remote clients (especially the poor souls locked into a 5 year contract with their 56k ISDN connection) SSH and the command line is what I want. Dated and trapped in a time-warp? Perhaps. Pragmatic? You betcha. On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:17:38 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:41, Burns MacDonald wrote: frontal lobotomy can produce a Windows OS clone. You're opinion is always worth respecting Burns but that's a cheap throway shot at explaining away the need to make an OS user friendly. A killer line to knock out opposition. (anyway, it takes a real idiot to create 10million lines of code and call it Windows, a lobotomy would have reduced the line count) The arcane blitheringly stupid cli syntax of Linux can get consigned to the dustbin where it deserved to be 20 years ago. The cli is an embarassment to those who use it. I no longer need to grep an awk before I bash it. It hasn't put one more hair on my chest. While I've learned a few more verbs since 1972 *nix hasn't kept up beyond the monosylable. We're stuck in a time warp with ls, tre, man, and a host of other inscrutable geek. The only reason people defend tar: a tape archiver for god's sake, is because it brings back fond memories of Bob Dylan, Coffee Shops and Duffel coats. (Ask them to be rational and the expression mists over) I'd call this geekspeak a high entry barrier when what I want to do is design T shirts and run accounts. If that were my profession, i'd like to love Linux, not wrestle it to the mat. CP/M did better. Bash syntax and the engine that runs it is more profuse with bloat than any complaint about kde. (read the maintainers' comments on same subject) Gui's and point n click assist in a need, and it doesn't equate to being a Windows clone. X is a good idea(tm). If there are similarities, then it's because Bill was savvy enough to use the original Xerox reccomendations, and the laid-in-concrete specifications for the 'special' keys of the keyboard, Not many people realise that the feel in windows look 'n feel is an IBM dictation(SAA something) for System 36/8 in existence prior to the PC, adopted by DEC, and passed on (partly) via the x-motif widget set. I would certainly back you in an argument where some distro was stupid enough to chase the Windoze market by emulating Windoze, but being a self-confessed gui-adorer doesn't make me a me-too Windoze luser. then maybe there are some users we just don't need to attract. /sunday evening rant too bloody right. I've never been attracted to *nix. I use it because Bill Gates and Steve Jobs gave me no choice. Linux has some way to go before I 'like' it. A decent gui is one. The MAC suffered because they insisted on a completely proprietary model in an increasingly generic market model. They were clobbered by the dominance of the PC clone model and all the explosive cross-development that brought with it. I would argue with you here, not on the clearness of above, but Steve's greed. The cause of all of the above ills were and are that Macs are crazily, greedily, unnecessarily, expensive. It was the Apple ][ that introduced the bus concept, *the* item from above that made all the difference for the Oem. Motorola fuelled to the 68040, a far better cpu in all respects than it's 80486 counterpart (not my say so, industry definition), Apple would not reduce the price sufficiently to get the cpu chip-volume up, Motorola, sensibly, gave the public what it deserved. Intel. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: logcheck error
There should have been another message with this one telling who the message was to. The relay here would suggest that this was sent from your machine. Are you using fetchmail? On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:08:13 +0800 Chang[linuxism] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for asking silly question again. What is this time? Was it just a probe? Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 2 14:00:18 server sendmail[31113]: g1260IN31113: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2667, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=02bc01c1abad$fb23bdc0$b7b8f9c1@foxil, bodytype=7BIT, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002
I've been pretty happy with Mandrake on my desktop. I only wish they'd stick a little closer to the normal menuing system. I find mdk's customized menu rather annoying. One thing nice I've found about SuSE, BTW, is that it includes FreeSWAN VPN solution in the box. Caldera, RH, and I believe Mdk can't say that. On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:33:55 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how true this is. Mandrake is notoriously bleeding edge. No company is going to want to install their product for normal usage. --- zohar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mostly SUSE and mandrake are going for servers with partners like IBM and such big names so they are trying to ignore the normal user and marketing of them to big firms is only done with the partner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Fwd: SuSE noshow at LWCE NY 2002 Ted Ozolins wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:52 am, Tony Alfrey wrote: o: SuSE Linux List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I was at LWCE yesterday and found SuSE to be absent from the floor. I came to know later that they cancelled their spot. So with this and coupled with the fact that they laid off most of the US staff, does it mean that SuSE is no longer interested in US market? Lenz? I was also surprised to see Mandrake booth. This year, the floor was even smaller and attendence lighter. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Mandrake. Lately, they have begun to show an agressive streak. Imagine that the French advance while the Germans retreat. The next thing you know somebody will let the cat out of that bag that Gates runs Linux on his home computer. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast question: dynamic ip and hostname
She pings from 167.ville. On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:41:34 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed over to a dynamic ip from a static ip number with comcast recently. I got an ip number and ran nslookup against it to see what my new host name was, and it was: pcp361333pcs-udp079123uds.towson01.md.comcast.net Now, when I run nslookup against my ip number, which hasn't changed, I get: tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net I called comcast tech support but they were clueless about this. Or, better put, I was unable to make them appreciate my concerns. My major concern is to maintain my current ip number, which is reachable from anywhere on the internet as hammershome.com. SO, any comcast users here? Have you tried to reboot your machine to see if you maintain the same ip number. Have you tried to use the new hostname with the -h parameter with dhcpcd? Also, I would like to know if the new name is resolvable on the internet, so, would someone, NOT on the comcast network, kindly ping that name(tow33dhcp1252.towson01.md.comcast.net) and see if you get back: 68.33.4.228 ? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: 63%
What? On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:01:59 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a fire in linux.advocacy... Here's why: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Market share for top servers across all domains, August 1995 - January 2002 Active Sites Developer December 2001 Percent January 2002 Percent ChangeApache 8588323 63.34 8997645 63.69 0.35 Microsoft 3609428 26.62 3683141 26.07 -0.55 iPlanet 3830782.83 4228062.99 0.16 Zeus 1723521.27 1711971.21 -0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: opinions on this iptables script
That's what I mean by nasty... Retaliation (albeit mild). That's the way to go IMHO. Just haven't had the time to automate one. On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:31:23 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: I've done a bit of civil using the standard chains of responsibility, butnasty has been very tempting... especially with the SSH_Version_Mapper crap... ___ not nasty per say... just turning the attack around and using an IIS exploit to shutdown the machine that's attacking mine -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf She's gone! Oh my God, she used me. I was used. I was used! Cool ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Large cracks in the Windoze, a fud warning.
Note that I just read an article in which Ballmer is quoted as stating that Windows 2000 is more stable than Linux, among other BS. Laughable, but public perception is no laughing matter when the whole world is involved. Note On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 21:56:30 +1130 Mike Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our dear friend Big Bill has a fearsome reputation for discerning the next big direction in computing, and thus keeping his Company afloat. Unlike all others in the game (except notably IBM), all others made the mistake of living off their killer app, and consequently being consigned to history. (aka Novell, visicalc, Digital Research, to name a few). Where Bill is uncanny is his insistence on moving Msoft, boots 'n all into whatever it is. Thus he re-invents Msoft every decade. Remember microsoft? that company that just did Dos and Basic? Thus the occaisional missives from him to all staff to move from DOS to Win3.1 (he sacked the entire DOS6 dev staff) The subsequent all out focus on Word and Excel, the marriage of convenience to Novel when he saw ethernet being 'it', the marriage to IBM while gui desktops were still being accepted... and, recently, his inspired guess that Internet was 'it'. His misguided attempt to kill Internet stone motherless dead and replace it with his (original) version of MSN. The flat out, mad-pace development of IExplorer (just 6 weeks for christ sake!) and, now. The missive from Gates is: stop work on every single project and development, add no more features, and concentrate *solely* on making our products 1) secure, 2) stable. In context to the 1st paragraphs, this missive is the same gigantic leap into something new. He is past the point of just being 'worried' and sees the demise of Msoft on the horizon because of the TWO issues. Recall, he saw correctly, the demise of Windoze without IExplorer. Now, if this OS of his, *is* unstable, and *is* insecure, the bottom line to that is who gives a sh*t when nothing else is available? The arrogance of pumping crap out for a decade was because he could. For a decade now, there was indeed NOTHING else (that worried Bill enuff). The only reason Bill is taking this issue as strong as he can, is he can see people flocking (I use the word advisedly) to Linux and it's derivates. The word from the industry watchers (Gerian, DB Associates, Standard Poors) is too little, too late. We live in interesting times. Knowing Msoft history makes me think these pundits are wrong, yet-again. Bill will simply create a new Xindows that IS secure. And now a warning. There are a (very) small number of people on this list, who will confirm for you, that FUDmongery is real and was a paid for veritable disease in the OS/2 vs Msoft warz. The basic rules are, you take your opponent's os apart and find anything sloppy. You then innocently post 'bug reports' into mailgroups. ANY response of any kind to these bugs (real or imagined), prompts a wave of auto-generated hate mail from umpty dozen new mail@somewheres, How can it be like this, I thought you said it was 'perfect, I agree with Fred, your OS is crap When genuine weakneses run out, you then look for ones that can't be verified. 'The team' supplies a stream of questions on issues that can't be proved or disproved. Purpose? Confusion, doubt, unsure-ness. What Bill's boys will now (desperately) attempt to do is DIScredit Linux's famed stability and security. They don't actually have a choice if they wish to survive, because they have to show Windoze is MORE secure than *nix. It's that serious, for them. You may laugh, I may laugh, at this obvious untruth, Windoze isn't secure, probably can't be (but knowing Bill, that may not be true forever). The point is, they are going to go flat out with the unwashed masses, convincing them that Linux, it's grandathers, and it's children are cr*p. This won't affect THIS mailer directly because the corporate mind is thinking Redhat, but Be warned. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: opinions on this iptables script
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:02:03 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, I prefer to let the hits in, as I have things in place to trap them and .. uh.. deal with the offending machine g Are we talking about civil or nasty modes? I've done a bit of civil using the standard chains of responsibility, but nasty has been very tempting... especially with the SSH_Version_Mapper crap... ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
I'm impressed with ATI!
Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions honestly and fairly. Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on. While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat it much like they do. They give links to OpenSource sites for support and suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org. As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they make available. I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as I am interested in video capture and conversion. AIW seems to be the way to go. I am interested in others' input about this topic. Thought I'd let you know. Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fw: gandalf.eisnet 01/04/02:21.15 system check
Anyone familiar with this device? Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:15:02 -0500 From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gandalf.eisnet 01/04/02:21.15 system check Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 2440468 Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 5039592 Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 7136680 Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 9233768 Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 11330856 Jan 4 21:04:49 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 13427944 Jan 4 21:04:50 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 16170412 Jan 4 21:04:50 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 16170952 Jan 4 21:04:50 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 16240180 Jan 4 21:06:41 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 4156032 Jan 4 21:06:41 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 4156048 Jan 4 21:06:41 gandalf kernel: I/O error: dev 0b:01, sector 4156032 -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error
I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5. It's an old box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok. I am attempting to update my lilo config and running into problems. Here is my lilo.conf file: prompt timeout = 100 boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1 map = /boot/map install = /boot/boot.b message = /boot/message default = linux image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label = linux-up initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this: [root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman Reading boot sector from current root. Merging with /boot/boot.b Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Secondary loader: 11 sectors. Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf Removed temporary file /boot/map~ It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is. I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around in everywhich way... Here's the last intriguing tidbit: When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] tag at the bottom of the screen Would this make a difference? Thanks all, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx
not to use the power of root. I don't have any serial devices, Ted, so I can't comiserate. The elx distro has been easier for me to install, manipulate, and tailor than any I've used in the past. I would not hesitate to recommend this one to a newbie. Us anal types? uncool, unnecessary.and with that I'm done. Vern, i hope that's only with this thread... there is another solution it's called a killfile. i'm about to use it right now... collins -- PLONK have a nice day. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Lilo question (HW-RAID5)/Error
Sorry to reply to my own post, but the issue WAS the [dos] file. I copied and pasted the config into a new file in vi and lilo ran flawlessly. Thanks anyway! Matt On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:01 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have RH7.2 installed on a Compaq Dual-PPro with HW RAID5. It's an old box (200MHz for each proc) but it seems to run ok. I am attempting to update my lilo config and running into problems. Here is my lilo.conf file: prompt timeout = 100 boot = /dev/ida/c0d0p1 map = /boot/map install = /boot/boot.b message = /boot/message default = linux image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10smp label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10smp.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label = linux-up initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img read-only append = mem=256M root = /dev/ida/c0d0p2 When I attempt to execute /sbin/lilo -v -v -v it gives me this: [root@lngi56 etc]# lilo -v -v -v LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger 'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman Reading boot sector from current root. Merging with /boot/boot.b Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Secondary loader: 11 sectors. Device 0x4801: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 4110 cylinders, 32 sectors. Partition offset: 73440 sectors. Syntax error near line 2 in file /etc/lilo.conf Removed temporary file /boot/map~ It doesn't seem to matter what line 2 is. I've rearranged the lilo.conf file around in everywhich way... Here's the last intriguing tidbit: When I edit /etc/lilo.conf, vi puts the [dos] tag at the bottom of the screen Would this make a difference? Thanks all, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: Q: Caldera Update script
they come down as -rw-r--r--1 root root 11308760 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-binary-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1004741 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-include-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 474500 Nov 5 18:38 linux-source-i386-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm And when I go back and manually rpm them, they install fine. --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: what's up with the Permission Denied messages I get? I run this as root. that's a new one. what are the perms on that rpm? is the rpm complete? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net /* vsprintf.c -- Lars Wirzenius Linus Torvalds. */ * * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-) */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/lib/vsprintf.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users = Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Linux Dial-up Server
Thanks guys! I knew asking you was the right way to go. Stew, Bruce, thanks. On question- Bruce, does the Moxa require 2.4.16? Or would a 2.4.2 stock W3.1 kernel do just fine? When I do things for clients, I try to stick to the KISS principle and right now, that's COL3.1 with a modified Hunley update script. The version I have didn't support 3.1, since Caldera threw in the additional Server or Workstation in their ftp path. You'd think they didn't WANT the script to work, or that they don't pay attention to their install-base... Either could be made arguments for. On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:20:24 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Chang. Actually that's the first place I normally go. The problem is that there is no hardware listed. What do I buy if I want to have say 8 modems? Or 4? What are others using? Does Digiboard work with Linux and is it the best for Linux like it is for Win? On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:31:34 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check http://linux.nf bill parker's article in ppp section. Matthew Carpenter wrote: I am interested in what people are using for Linux dial-up servers these days. I have a mid-sized company interested in providing dialup for their users and I need to put together a proposal soon. Rather than investigate all the options, I thought I'd ask people who do it already. -- The pivotal point is the second chance, judged by another set of criteria. In Linux We Trust -- http://linux.nf _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: IMPAP server configuration question
IMAP configuration, as I have found it, is nonexistent. Either you allow it or not (though your inetd config) and you control access to the service (hosts.allow and hosts.deny, I suppose iptables as well). It's essentially on or off. If I'm wrong, please tell me otherwise. I created a directory called MAIL off my user directory and it is where all my mail is stored, etc... In Sylpheed (my IMAP client) there is a configuration IMAP server directory which I type in MAIL and everything works. I believe Netscape has the same option. On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 11:04:41 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to make my linux box an imap server. It is amazingly hard to find info out about this. My Programming Internet Mail book from O'Reilly doesn't mention anything about setting up the server. Using the defaults, everything works fine for mail that goes to my standard mailbox, the one in my environmental variable MAIL. However, I am not sure of the best way to allow for other mailboxes to be serviced by the server, eg. how to allow the imap client to subscribe to them. Now, when I try to subscribe from Netscape 6.2, every file on my home directory seems to be presented as a mail box. So, should I be fiddling with the client (what is user space, anyway?) or should I fiddle with the imap server? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Q: Caldera Update script
what's up with the Permission Denied messages I get? I run this as root. Begin forwarded message: Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:53:41 -0500 From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Caldera Update script Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Last installed update was #000 Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Trying to find update #001 Sat Dec 15 10:52:25 EST 2001 - Attempting to retrieve update #001 SNIP 10:53:40 URL: ftp://ftp.caldera.com/%2Fpub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/SRPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.src.rpm [731857] - ftp.caldera.com/pub/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/SRPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.src.rpm [1] FINISHED --10:53:40-- Downloaded: 1,035,920 bytes in 6 files Sat Dec 15 10:53:40 EST 2001 - Checking for retrieval success/failure Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Update #001 downloaded Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Installing fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm... Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - ...using fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm /sbin/cal_up.sh: /sto/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/RPMS/fetchmail-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm: Permission denied Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - Installing fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm... Sat Dec 15 10:53:41 EST 2001 - ...using fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm /sbin/cal_up.sh: /sto/updates/OpenLinux/3.1/Server/001/RPMS/fetchmailconf-5.4.0-5a.i386.rpm: Permission denied ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Linux Dial-up Server
I am interested in what people are using for Linux dial-up servers these days. I have a mid-sized company interested in providing dialup for their users and I need to put together a proposal soon. Rather than investigate all the options, I thought I'd ask people who do it already. Thanks! -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CAL_UP.SH and Douglas
I just scraped 4.2.0 off my Internet server. Here it is. On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:07:53 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: Hey! Doug! What ever happened to cal_up.sh? The freshmeat pointer points to broken links. I still rely on that little puppy. freshmeat isn't supposed to point to it anymore. it's gone. I lost it during that ridiculous hardware crash a while back... hope you still have a copy somewhere (if so, send me one) -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business cal_up.sh Description: Bourne shell script
CAL_UP.SH and Douglas
Hey! Doug! What ever happened to cal_up.sh? The freshmeat pointer points to broken links. I still rely on that little puppy. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Procmail not invoking as expected
I am using procmail in various Caldera server installs (3.1 and 2.3). For some reason, procmail does not automatically invoke on local delivery although the cf, mc and m4 files would suggest that this should be the case. ie. I'm running procmail from .forward, which is fine, but I was under the impression that this was unnecessary. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CNA, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Procmail
No, but the sendmail.cf file seems to have /usr/bin/procmail, which is correct. I simply added MAILER(procmail) to the generic-openlinux.mc file. The FEATURE line was already there... On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:17:47 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter wrote: % I am unable to get procmail to work! I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file % to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok. I have a .procmailrc % file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs % of what isn't happening! ARG! Help? This is running on COLS3.1 and does include the added bonus of using fetchmail. REPEAT: This is NOT the actual target of the mail. The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the originator. Did you defined PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH? Kurt -- Did I say 2? I lied. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CNA, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Procmail
I am unable to get procmail to work! I have re-m4-ed my sendmail.cf file to include MAILER(procmail) and everything LOOKS ok. I have a .procmailrc file in the user's home directory, and yet I get no difference and no logs of what isn't happening! ARG! Help? This is running on COLS3.1 and does include the added bonus of using fetchmail. REPEAT: This is NOT the actual target of the mail. The mail is pulled from another server using POP3 using fetchmail, but fetchmail is supposed to connect to port 25 to deliver the mail just like it WAS the originator. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CNA, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:49:46 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must also admit that to me vi is an editor that I thouroughly hate, it was as AFAIAC written by a certifiable geek, on a bad trip with drugs. So I would not have got far here, joe, jove are my limits. VI was written so you could BE on drugs and get out of the file without hidden stuff. It's ugly, but so is BIND when you don't know exactly what those zone files are made of! g ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: router with one interface
On the machine that is configured for 1.2.3.5
ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
On the machine that is configured for 192.168.1.2, make its default gateway 192.168.1.1
SNAT is for Statically NATting the source address.
DNAT is for Statically NATting the destination address.
You may overload an ip address, but it acts as loadbalancing, not sharing.
Masquerading acts more like PAT (port address translation). The MASQERADE-ing machine
handles the address sharing.
Matt
- Original Message -
From: Razvan Cosma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:35 PM
Subject: router with one interface
Hello,
Any idea on how to get two computers to share the same ip if the linux
box
only has one interface? the basic sheme would be:
ISP (1.2.3.4) eth0 (1.2.3.5)Linux
eth0:0 (192.168.1.1) box
|
(192.168.1.2) box #2
i have tried
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255 -j SNAT --to-source
1.2.3.5
ping from 192.168.1.2 to 1.2.3.5 :works
ping from 192.168.1.2 to 1.2.3.4 :timeout :(
ping www.somwhere.com -I 192.168.1.1 :works
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward:1
all necessary modules loaded
still..?
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Re: Opera 6 beta available
Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG HTML Editor? Not just what NetScape and Mozilla have, I am looking for something I can use to do things like FORMS, and it'd be a big plus to have something like DreamWeaver's capability of using Layers to place content, but with the capability of converting to tables. While I realize that no Open Source HTML project has climbed to that extent yet, is there anything with the first requirements? I have been unhappy with the acclaimed tools like Quanta since I am looking for WYSIWYG. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 03:00:43 + dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, Yes, it seems well tested and stable. No crashes, freezes or anything like that. I have had in about 18 hours now without a hitch but YMMV as you know :) Thus spake Ken Moffat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I think I can save it. Does the new one seem stable? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered Linux User #213656 access to power must be limited to those who are not in love with it --Plato ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
DVD Playing
Do I hear anyone willing to put together an SxS on how to use DeCSS to make Xine play standard DVD's without the stupid decoder card? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: replacing win98
I have spoken to several Linux-geeks who need occasional access to a windows box, and most are happy with the VNC setup you described (little headless NT/2000 box under the desk) On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:30:35 -0500 Wade Barocsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My office manager's win98 system is problematic, with frequent crashes, etc. I am looking to replace this system with linux. This system (k6-400,256mb) runs a foxpro database-office management system, and basic office software. The office software can easily be handled by linux, but what is the best approach in operating the database? VNC off a win2k box? A new virtual machine in vmware run local or remote? Any thoughts? Thanks Wade ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: strange processes
No. They're related to the kernel. :) On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 21:06:28 +0800 Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are those k* proceses related to KDE? # ps ax | more 2 ?SW 0:00 [keventd] 3 ?SW 3:00 [kswapd] 4 ?SW 0:00 [kreclaimd] 5 ?SW 0:03 [bdflush] 6 ?SW 0:20 [kupdated] 7 ?SW0:00 [mdrecoveryd] 108 ?SW 0:00 [khubd] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: weirdness w/ Samba
If you're on the same subnet, you shouldn't need either. Broadcast should work then. On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:52:36 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Marchak babbled on about: Quoting Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you configured the Samba server for WINS support and put its IP in the client's WINS entry in the TCP/IP control panel? That's the first thing I'd doublecheck, since if WINS is working right you won't need lmhosts. Doug, Now I remember...if you have WINS configured correctly you don't need /etc/lmhosts! that explains it. I had previously used WINS. doh! :) This raises a question for me though, when going from one *nix samba host to another, how would WINS server info be specified? Also, Doug, how are you making out with this? various other issue have caused me to reinstall the OS on the offending machine. so, I'm trying to make XP happy right now.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This happens to us all the time with computers, and nobody thinks of complaining. -- Jeff Raskin, interviewed in Doctor Dobb's Journal ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Request to mailing list Linux-users rejected
Well, since kdesud is 52kb and the list will only allow 40kb I guess I can't send it to you. Contact me offlist if you would like to fix Konqueror's Password-Amnesia in KDE2.2.1 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:15:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your request to the Linux-users mailing list Posting of your message titled Re: KDE 2.2.1 Konqueror and .htaccess passwords has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: Your message was too big; please trim it to less than 40 KB in size. Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: weirdness w/ Samba
What are the .12 and .13 boxen running? How about nmbd, is it running ok? What do the log files say (if anything)? (/var/log/samba.d/* on Caldera). BTW-192.168.1.11 is most likely not the name of the machine. Put the NetBIOS name in that location. If you need to specify the IP address for some reason, use the -I option. On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:52:03 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: I've got Samba 2.2.2 installed (and working) on 192.168.1.10 Seems to be working fine in that 3 shares are being successfully mounted on all my other machines (192.168.1.11-13). However, I have a printer hanging off the .11 box that is being shared as a network printer (WinME for the OS). The .12 and .13 boxes can print to it without issue. However, the .10 box can't seem to see any SMB shares on the .11 box... smbclient -U id%pass -L 192.168.1.11 returns: added interface ip=192.168.1.10 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.0.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 session request to 192.168.1.11 failed (Called name not present) session request to 192 failed (Called name not present) session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present) I'd really like to be able to print from the .10 box... ideas anyone? Is/are your /etc/lmhosts file(s) in order? -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Remote X login (SOLVED)
Was this just enabled in eD and eS? I know that I never had to do that back then... All I had to do there was uncomment the * line in Xaccess. On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:29:28 -0700 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: At the bottom of the /opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file is this section: [Xdmcp] Enable=false KeyFile=/etc/X11/kdm/xdm-keys Willing= Xaccess=/etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess I changed the Enable=false to true, restarted X and lo and behold, the kdm login screen appeared on my son's PC. Should this info be put on the KDE pages? This is KDE 2.2.1 specific. I've seen no other documetnation anywhere that mentions that the kdmrc file needs to be edited to enable remote logins. There's no SxS for Remote X logins, either, but this sure seems to be SxS fodder. If the powers that be feel it's worthy of its own page, I'll write something up. This is *definitely* SxS material. Kurt -- It's so beautifully arranged on the plate -- you know someone's fingers have been all over it. -- Julia Child on nouvelle cuisine. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Remote X login (SOLVED)
I'm still not there yet: I am attempting to start the remote X session in runlevel 5 by using the following command: X :1 -query www.xxx.yyy.zzz I see the following in response after all the X messages (screen size, refresh,etc..): AUDIT: Sat Nov 3 09:07:11 2001: 1550 X: client 1 rejected from IP remote ip port 42502 Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1 On the remote system, I see this in /var/log/messages: Nov 3 10:18:56 gandalf kdm[5367]: server open failed for elandyl:1, giving up Nov 3 10:18:56 gandalf kdm[31019]: Display elandyl:1 cannot be opened Any Ideas? It's like my local box is rejecting the remote system's attempts to give me a login screen. My next step is to make this a part of the bootup (dual X, one remote). Would this be best achieved by entering the following as the next line in Xservers? :1 path-to-X/X :1 -query gandalf (or IP address) Thanks. Matt On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:29:28 -0700 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: At the bottom of the /opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file is this section: [Xdmcp] Enable=false KeyFile=/etc/X11/kdm/xdm-keys Willing= Xaccess=/etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess I changed the Enable=false to true, restarted X and lo and behold, the kdm login screen appeared on my son's PC. Should this info be put on the KDE pages? This is KDE 2.2.1 specific. I've seen no other documetnation anywhere that mentions that the kdmrc file needs to be edited to enable remote logins. There's no SxS for Remote X logins, either, but this sure seems to be SxS fodder. If the powers that be feel it's worthy of its own page, I'll write something up. This is *definitely* SxS material. Kurt -- It's so beautifully arranged on the plate -- you know someone's fingers have been all over it. -- Julia Child on nouvelle cuisine. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Remote X login (SOLVED)
It's a good bet that this is a Caldera-Specific thing. Has anyone seen this on other distros? On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:29:28 -0700 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Wunder wrote: At the bottom of the /opt/kde2/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file is this section: [Xdmcp] Enable=false KeyFile=/etc/X11/kdm/xdm-keys Willing= Xaccess=/etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess I changed the Enable=false to true, restarted X and lo and behold, the kdm login screen appeared on my son's PC. Should this info be put on the KDE pages? This is KDE 2.2.1 specific. I've seen no other documetnation anywhere that mentions that the kdmrc file needs to be edited to enable remote logins. There's no SxS for Remote X logins, either, but this sure seems to be SxS fodder. If the powers that be feel it's worthy of its own page, I'll write something up. This is *definitely* SxS material. Kurt -- It's so beautifully arranged on the plate -- you know someone's fingers have been all over it. -- Julia Child on nouvelle cuisine. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Remote X login (SOLVED)
On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:08:24 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have /etc/X0.hosts and X1.hosts files on the server? They should contain the hosts (hostnames, resolvable by /etc/hosts, or IP addresses), one per line that are allowed access. I have X1.hosts configured as a symlink to X0.hosts. I don't have either of those files on either machine. Due to the ambiguity of Client and Server with regards to X, could you use Local and Remote and restate this? Is the DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 line commented out of the kdx/xdm-config file with a bang (!)? yes. I did... on the remote host. That is how I got to this point. Previously I didn't get THIS far. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
test
test. I still don't seem to be getting messages sent to the list. The last one I got was 10/10/01 from kbb0927 -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Am I exiled?
It occurred to me the other day that possibly the list isn't quite, just that I'm no longer on it? -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Caldera RPM Putting!
Where would I place Caldera RPMs? I try to anonymous ftp to ftp.caldera.com but am unable (permission denied) to write any files there. Anywhere? I have Snort (and associated libpcap), althea, gtknw, ncpfs, and sylpheed on this machine, and much more on others, but I have nowhere to put them to make them available to the public. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RPM Messages...
package .anchors not listed in file index package common not listed in file index package index.docbook not listed in file index When I did rpm -Uvh kdelibs2-2.1.2-1.i386.rpm I got the messages. What do they mean and will this bite me later? ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
CUPS Printing from Konqueror... Status 32!
Perhaps someone cann shine some light on an issue for me: I have having an issue printing using CUPS from Konqueror. SPECS: COL Server 3.1 on a Celeron-450, Canon BJC7004 CUPS URL causing problem: http://www.brasseagle.com/products/product_detail.asp?item_num=1410cat=Markers Problem: error_log shows the following (note the stopped with status 32!): I [08/Sep/2001:13:45:06 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 5087) for job 16. I [08/Sep/2001:13:45:06 -0500] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/cupsomatic (PID 5088) for job 16. I [08/Sep/2001:13:45:06 -0500] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel (PID 5089) for job 16. E [08/Sep/2001:13:45:07 -0500] PID 5088 stopped with status 32! This is a problem since I'm attempting to print out Christmas Gift ideas for my wife! G I haven't been able to find what that error message means... Thanks all Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CNA, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
