Re: Comcast mail
With register.com, you own your domain name. Register.com doesn't know what your email address is, necessarily. Joel mailbank.com). Either way, for a nominal fee you get out of being email shackled to your ISP. and sells your e-mail address to every spamming slime in the world? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
That has been one of the pleasant surprises of my mailbank acct - almost no spam after having the same addr for 5+ years. Compare that to the ISP addr I have at swbell.net (began receiving spam immediately) or (gasp!) yahoo or hotmail (both are spam magnets). Bill Campbell pontificated eloquently: and sells your e-mail address to every spamming slime in the world? -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:20:44AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: With register.com, you own your domain name. Register.com doesn't know what your email address is, necessarily. There should be working e-mail addresses in the Admin, Technical, and Billing information in their ``whois'' database. Network Solutions seems to sell their whois database to every marketing sleaze on the planet. Register.com appears to be the registrar for far too many spamhauses, and their abuse people have never made any constructive response to complaints about spam advertising sites where they're the registrar. They don't seem to do any checking on the contact information they publish in their ``whois'' data so the spammer's contact info is frequently totally bogus. Joel mailbank.com). Either way, for a nominal fee you get out of being email shackled to your ISP. and sells your e-mail address to every spamming slime in the world? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Avoid revolution or expect to get shot. Mother and I will grieve, but we will gladly buy a dinner for the National Guardsman who shot you. -- Dr. Paul Williamson, father of a Kent State student ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
snip FYI, Joel: I just went to http://www.comcast.net and was allowed to go to member services and create additional users. Got the same names as before. I had to use MSIE, since the page wouldn't load properly in Mozilla. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:46:01PM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: snip FYI, Joel: I just went to http://www.comcast.net and was allowed to go to member services and create additional users. Got the same names as before. I had to use MSIE, since the page wouldn't load properly in Mozilla. There was an article in the Seattle Times this morning on Comcast tracking the web sites their customers visit. I read the whole thing, but if they're using something like akami to proxy web requests, this would be easy for them to do. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``The children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society that is coming, where everyone would be interdependent.'' 1899 John Dewey, educational philosopher, proponent of modern public schools. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Bill Campbell wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 01:46:01PM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: snip FYI, Joel: I just went to http://www.comcast.net and was allowed to go to member services and create additional users. Got the same names as before. I had to use MSIE, since the page wouldn't load properly in Mozilla. There was an article in the Seattle Times this morning on Comcast tracking the web sites their customers visit. I read the whole thing, but if they're using something like akami to proxy web requests, this would be easy for them to do. Really? Even if you don't use their proxy server? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:43:06PM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: Bill Campbell wrote: ... There was an article in the Seattle Times this morning on Comcast tracking the web sites their customers visit. I read the whole thing, but if they're using something like akami to proxy web requests, this would be easy for them to do. Really? Even if you don't use their proxy server? I can't say for sure as I've never looked at the details of how the akami servers work. I know that Akami installs their own servers at the ISP's site, and their servers gradually mirror major web sites (the owners of these web sites pay Akami for this, and the servers don't cost the ISP anything beyond rack space and power). My guess is that requests to port 80 are diverted to the local Akami servers. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Never chastise a Windows user...just smile at them kindly as you would a disadvantaged child.'' WBM ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Joel Hammer wrote: I run an imap server on my home box but don't allow access to it for security reasons from outside my home network. I pop the mail off @HOME for her. I may have to do make her use hammershome for her mail address. Joel Hi, You could always try imap over SSL (imaps) - port 993 IIRC. It should be reasonably secure. AFAIR Netscape supports it. HTH, John V. -- _/- John Voigt - K9GBO -|- Registered Linux User #38558 --_/ _/- Reclamation Specialist --|- IN Dept of Natural Resources -_/ _/- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|- (812) 665-2207 --_/ There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. -- Steven Wright ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:06:17AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: What a @#$%^ service. I use my hammershome address for most of my stuff but my daughter needs an email address, too. I suppose she'll need to use aol. There are other e-mail alternatives to AOL (I can tell from your e-mail address you're either a goat-herder or a cartoonist -- Scott Adams). We set up our cable customer's e-mail to send/receive all their e-mail through one of our mail servers using uucp over tcp/ip either through their own registered domain names or through a subdomain of one of our domains. This is pretty easy to set up Linux/Unix systems. I know, you say uucp's an obsolete protocol, but it works very well, isn't blocked by any ISPs I've encountered (many responsible ISPs block outgoing port 25 to prevent spamming by their customers or their open mail relays), and doesn't even require a network connection, plain dialup is OK. We have been providing uucp e-mail connections to people in the Puget Sound area since 1984, and still have dialup customers who have not network connection at all. One of which, luckypet.com, has a co-located web site that sends orders to them by e-mail which come to our system, ours dials theirs using a normal character dialup (e.g. not PPP), sends the e-mails where they're processed by their SCO OpenServer system automatically. I have also been working with Caldera's Volution Messaging Server here. This makes it reasonably easy to set up e-mail only accounts which are accessible externally via POP/IMAP clients, and also has a webmail interface using horde/imp. The major problem with this now is that there are some modifications necessary to allow external POP/IMAP clients to relay mail through the server after reading mail. This can be done by adding whosond support to the cyrus-imap, and postfix servers. We haven't been pushing this type of service, largely because I've never been able to figure what it's worth for people to have reliable e-mail addresses that aren't tied into a specific ISP, are Linux Friendly, etc. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your consul, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget ye were our countrymen.'' -- Samuel Adams (American Patriot) ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
How is this different from a thing like Register.com? Register.com seems to provide similar sames services, and for the same price ($36.00 per year). Joel Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:09:21PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: Bill, FWIW, I have for years now been using the services of www.mailbank.com. For $10US per year I get an email addr that is pop accessible, isn't dependent on my ISP (which has changed 5 times in the interim), provides me with an SMTP server, and has lots of addresses covering lots of names, professions, hobbies. Just something to use as a reference. Bill Campbell pontificated eloquently: We haven't been pushing this type of service, largely because I've never been able to figure what it's worth for people to have reliable e-mail addresses that aren't tied into a specific ISP, are Linux Friendly, etc. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: How is this different from a thing like Register.com? Register.com seems to provide similar sames services, and for the same price ($36.00 per year). Not real familiar with Register.com, but ultimately it looks about the same. Only diff is that R.com you actually buy a domain name rather than just renting an email address off an existing domain of theirs (like at mailbank.com). Either way, for a nominal fee you get out of being email shackled to your ISP. -- Michael R. Hipp Microsoft Windows XP: Just say no. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:59:39PM -0600, Michael Hipp wrote: Joel Hammer pontificated eloquently: How is this different from a thing like Register.com? Register.com seems to provide similar sames services, and for the same price ($36.00 per year). Not real familiar with Register.com, but ultimately it looks about the same. Only diff is that R.com you actually buy a domain name rather than just renting an email address off an existing domain of theirs (like at mailbank.com). Either way, for a nominal fee you get out of being email shackled to your ISP. and sells your e-mail address to every spamming slime in the world? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``I have no reason to suppose that he, who would take away my Liberty, would not when he had me in his Power, take away everything else.'' John Locke ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Comcast mail
Any comcast users here? Currently I have multiple mail boxes on my @HOME account. The people at comcast tell me that I can only have one mailbox (account name) when I switch over to the comcast mail server. Can this be true? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
What a @#$%^ service. I use my hammershome address for most of my stuff but my daughter needs an email address, too. I suppose she'll need to use aol. Thanks, Joel On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:02:10AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: Any comcast users here? Currently I have multiple mail boxes on my @HOME account. The people at comcast tell me that I can only have one mailbox (account name) when I switch over to the comcast mail server. Can this be true? Joel AFAIK, that's true, for the time being. Eventually, we're supposed to be able to set up a total of 7 e-mail addresses. They will not guarantee that all non-primary users will get the same e-mail address names. quote from Comcast e-mail Things to Keep in Mind: * Your e-mail address will change from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) * Coming soon, you will have the ability to create up to 6 additional e-mail addresses (for a total of 7) should you prefer to use a different e-mail address than the one provided above. /quote That's one of the reasons I got aroud to setting up sendmail to send and receive mail. One less thing I need to rely on Comcast to provide me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
I feel your pain... You could always run a pop3 server, or imap, and allow external access to hammershome.com. Better than having her use AOL... BTW, my wife uses yahoo web-based mail. She switched everything over to that after @home lost her configuration data and her e-mail was inactive for 3 days (happened over a weekend last year sometime and nobody was available that could fix their database...). I've read that you can even get POP access to your yahoo account, if you agree to receive spam^H^H^H^Hadvertising. Regards, Tim Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: What a @#$%^ service. I use my hammershome address for most of my stuff but my daughter needs an email address, too. I suppose she'll need to use aol. Thanks, Joel On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:02:10AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write: Any comcast users here? Currently I have multiple mail boxes on my @HOME account. The people at comcast tell me that I can only have one mailbox (account name) when I switch over to the comcast mail server. Can this be true? Joel AFAIK, that's true, for the time being. Eventually, we're supposed to be able to set up a total of 7 e-mail addresses. They will not guarantee that all non-primary users will get the same e-mail address names. quote from Comcast e-mail Things to Keep in Mind: * Your e-mail address will change from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) * Coming soon, you will have the ability to create up to 6 additional e-mail addresses (for a total of 7) should you prefer to use a different e-mail address than the one provided above. /quote That's one of the reasons I got aroud to setting up sendmail to send and receive mail. One less thing I need to rely on Comcast to provide me. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. -- Caldera eWorkstation 3.1, kernel 2.4.9, KDE 2.2.1, Xfree86 4.1.0 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:28:23 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read that you can even get POP access to your yahoo account, if you agree to receive spam^H^H^H^Hadvertising. I use yahoo as backup, and download it using pop. You do get a little spam, and it's annoying, but not excessive. You can use the webmail interface and not get as much spam, but I prefer pop mail clients. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Comcast mail
I run an imap server on my home box but don't allow access to it for security reasons from outside my home network. I pop the mail off @HOME for her. I may have to do make her use hammershome for her mail address. Joel On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:28:23AM -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: I feel your pain... You could always run a pop3 server, or imap, and allow external access to hammershome.com. Better than having her use AOL... BTW, my wife uses yahoo web-based mail. She switched everything over to that after @home lost her configuration data and her e-mail was inactive for 3 days (happened over a weekend last year sometime and nobody was available that could fix their database...). I've read that you can even get POP access to your yahoo account, if you agree to receive spam^H^H^H^Hadvertising. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
