Fw: ELX Linux Interview
FYI Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:39:54 -0800 From: TApologist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: (none) Newsgroups: borland.public.kylix.non-technical Subject: ELX Linux Interview Paul and others have mentioned how much they like ELX Linux. Here's a link to an interview with the founder of ELX: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT6850645834.html Enjoy. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
Thanks Ken, I'll try that. Ray On 6 Feb 2002, at 20:53, Ken Moffat wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:33 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot unmount them as it thinks they are busy. I disabled supermount by changing the /etc/fstab lines, which cured my cd problems. Here are the new lines I use. /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/floppy /mnt/floppy vfatdefaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0 I use append append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi to enable my cd-rw and dvd for scsi emulation. This is mostly untested, but both show in cdrecord -scanbus -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:05:16 -0800 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800 Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote: Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! Elx is good. A problem I've had is with supermount, which was causing excessive delays while searching for media in cd's and mounting file systems. So I change my /etc/fstab file to a conventional mount point for the cd's and floppy, which fixed that problem. The Samba networking works well with my win95 box. The eth0 setup was a breeze, and the scsi emulation for my cd's works well, just added appends to lilo.conf. I'd like a few more window managers included, (just kde and gnome). And I don't like the windows like addons (network neighborhood, control panel) which are repackaged webmin utilities. But overall I'm impressed. It works and it's quite fast on my Athlon 1.4. They use kernel 2.4.13. Kylix2 runs well. I had a problem with permissions for cd sound, but added my user to the disk group and fixed that. (Also changed permissions to 666 on /dev/dsp, don't know if that was necessary) Anyway it works. It's a bit large at 3+ megs for full install. Yep, it's great, and David Bandel appears to be the only one I've heard of who can't get it to run; surely he's not the only Athlon user. ELX is gathering momentum. I just read in an article on the Elx home page today We have a record that out of more than 40 thousand ELX users world wide, there is not even a single after-install crash problem reported so far...The current release of ELX (prel/rc2E) has no known bugs. That's a pretty impressive user count for a new distro. I've just completed moving my wife and daughter back to my K6/II 300 machine which has Win98 (it works) and blown away WinME (locked up continually) on the HP PIV/900 box. I've just reinstalled my ELX rc1 isos including the option to write to the mbr, and it works like a champ - everything operational except sound, and that's primarily a KDE problem, although the usual lack of permissionos on /dev/dsp didn't help. rant Why does every distro feel the need to secure secure the sound card! I don't really think the script kiddies are going to write .wav files to my sound card. /rant Now that I've put xfce and sylpheed back on the box, all I need to do is prune the forest of daemons again and put up a current kernel. Someone mentioned problems with letting ELX write to the MBR, but on this box even the ide-scsi append statement for my CD_R W was generated correctly. Normally I don't do that anyway, but this box was empty, so no harm done. ELX even properly detected and setup my brandx ethernet card (installed by ATT way back when) and didn't get tangled up by the presence of a second ethernet card in the box. Yes, the KDE menu is a little strange, but new-to-linux users wouldn't have a clue about this, so it's a big deal. I like having both kde and gnome available, for once in a blue moon. If they just included xfce and sylpheed, it would be perfect our of the box. Actually, with gnome its more than once in a blue moon, since I'm a died-in-the-wool galeon fan. Oh yes, CUPS and my printer (laserjet) are working just fine. I did have to do a little tinkering with my Intel I810 video card, but even this worked out of the install. So, another successful ELX install - just plain boring. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area ELX-rc1 with xfce and sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
I have installed ELX Linux also. I am very impressed. At first I didn't think to much of the My Computer and the Network Neighborhood on the desktop but after playing around a little and using the different features of them, I found them rather handy. But then, I'm not a real dyed in the wool Linux user either. The one thing I found interesting is that I have 2 harddrives in the box. Elx installed on the proper drive but doesn't see the other drive (windows) so that I could mount the windows drive. Altho it did find the other 2 machines on my network (both Windows) and set them up with Samba. I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot unmount them as it thinks they are busy. Overall I would say its an excellent distro and would recommend it especially for Windows users who want to ease into a Linux enviornment. Ray Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:33 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still having issues with the CD-RW and CD-R and Floppy drive and the locks. Once in a while I can get to them but then cannot unmount them as it thinks they are busy. I disabled supermount by changing the /etc/fstab lines, which cured my cd problems. Here are the new lines I use. /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 defaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0/dev/floppy /mnt/floppy vfatdefaults,user,rw,noauto 0 0 I use append append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi to enable my cd-rw and dvd for scsi emulation. This is mostly untested, but both show in cdrecord -scanbus -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Elx Linux
Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a couple of posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line for the finished product. If your looking for a new distribution of Linux head of to their web site at http://www.elxlinux.com/; and see the good things their doing. Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Elx Linux
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:36:55 -0800 Mike Mckinlay mike@CX43837-A wrote: Folks: I hate sound like a newbie but, after hearing about Elx linux in a coupleof posts to the list I cruzed over to their web site to look them over and decided to give their latest beta release a spin and all I can say is WOW! If this is a beta you can sure I'll be standing in line for the finished product. If your looking for a new distribution of Linux head of to their web site at http://www.elxlinux.com/; and see the good things their doing. Mike Elx is good. A problem I've had is with supermount, which was causing excessive delays while searching for media in cd's and mounting file systems. So I change my /etc/fstab file to a conventional mount point for the cd's and floppy, which fixed that problem. The Samba networking works well with my win95 box. The eth0 setup was a breeze, and the scsi emulation for my cd's works well, just added appends to lilo.conf. I'd like a few more window managers included, (just kde and gnome). And I don't like the windows like addons (network neighborhood, control panel) which are repackaged webmin utilities. But overall I'm impressed. It works and it's quite fast on my Athlon 1.4. They use kernel 2.4.13. Kylix2 runs well. I had a problem with permissions for cd sound, but added my user to the disk group and fixed that. (Also changed permissions to 666 on /dev/dsp, don't know if that was necessary) Anyway it works. It's a bit large at 3+ megs for full install. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: ELX linux (and Mandrake - sluggish?)
Was it [EMAIL PROTECTED] who wrote on Wednesday 09 January 2002 06:27: I thought it was a bit sluggish too. But not as sluggish as Mandrake 8.1 Was running on AMD K6 2-500 with 256MB ram on its own HD. On 8 Jan 2002, at 19:19, Ken Moffat wrote: Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? (maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?) This trespasses on one of my pet hates. I'm told that linux is faster, runs the pc cooler, etc, etc. There's so many scripts in any distro that the time taken to run the stuff on my pc is drastic. I'm not in the super pc league (details below), but if things were compiled, instead of scripted, and if checks like (Is there scsi devices attached? Does Netscape exist? etc) were not made, these systems would fly AMD K6/2-3D 500 Mhz, 64MB SDRAM, 100 Mhz bus Via Apollo P5MPV3 chipset, Opti Mad 16 931 soundcard Video= AGP S3 Trio, w/8MB RAM, PS/2 mouse. Realtek 8029 pci bus network card. Award BIOS 56K external modem on /dev/ttyS1. PS/2 mouse. /dev/hda=2.5 Gig Maxtor 82560A4 drive(windoze 95) /dev/hdb=6.4 Gig Fujitsu MPC 3064AT Drive (boot, swap, root) Unused usb ports. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX linux
Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? (maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX linux
I thought it was a bit sluggish too. But not as sluggish as Mandrake 8.1 Was running on AMD K6 2-500 with 256MB ram on its own HD. Ray On 8 Jan 2002, at 19:19, Ken Moffat wrote: Date sent: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:19:11 -0800 Anyone trying ELX think it's a bit sluggish? (maybe it's because I have it about 40 gigs in to a 60 gig drive?) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
Was it Collins Richey who wrote on Sunday 30 December 2001 00:36: Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've switched back to elx at least temporarily. A few notes: 3) I found rpm versions of xfce and sylpheed, and they went in without a hitch, even though not specifically designed for elx. It appears that anything redhat/mandrake crafted will work. I have been running Mandrake for a while now, and allow me to add that IMHO, Red Hat and Mandrake are no longer fully compatible, just alike. Elx has probably done what Mandrake did - started with a basic Red Hat file arrangement and then added their own work. They have differed widely in areas, and Mandrake has added loads of 'drakes (Harddrake, diskdrake(out yet?), drakfont, rpmdrake, XFdrake,) mainly dodges so they don't have to explain anything. Thay have you testing for them (e.g. crashtester, 'cooker') before they will do that. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:39:30 + Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was it Collins Richey who wrote on Sunday 30 December 2001 00:36: Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've switched back to elx at least temporarily. A few notes: 3) I found rpm versions of xfce and sylpheed, and they went in without a hitch, even though not specifically designed for elx. It appears that anything redhat/mandrake crafted will work. I have been running Mandrake for a while now, and allow me to add that IMHO, Red Hat and Mandrake are no longer fully compatible, just alike. Elx has probably done what Mandrake did - started with a basic Red Hat file arrangement and then added their own work. They have differed widely in areas, and Mandrake has added loads of 'drakes (Harddrake, diskdrake(out yet?), drakfont, rpmdrake, XFdrake,) mainly dodges so they don't have to explain anything. Thay have you testing for them (e.g. crashtester, 'cooker') before they will do that. You're most likely right. I haven't kept up with Mandrake since the 8.0 (???) Beta which I liked better than the final product. They wouldn't really explain much to me, even when I was on the 'cooker' list. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:02, Ted Ozolins wrote: On another note, I can not seem to be able (or programs) to use ttyS0 or any serial port as a mere mortal. ttySX is owned by root and in the group [snip] temporarily (at least) cripple out GiveConsole and TakeConsole in /etc/X11/~ -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Re: elx linux
Previously, Ted Ozolins chose to write: On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:07 am, you wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to run their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting to look and feel ___ almost Micro$oftish :( Has anyone been able to find any source code on their site? If its there, I'm definately missing it, I've looked but no joy. Subject: Re: elx linux Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:24:49 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ted, This spell check is not matured in K mail , it is still an experimental feature which soon be made proper. In linux world every bit of code is written with great passion and on the best effort basis. But we are working to make things better. ELX believes that the main user will always be root and therefore it does not give full priviledges to all users. To grant access to any device you can log in as root and run open your file manager and can grant access to any device or file. This is more of a secuirty feature. Please do keep sending your suggestions and input. Ted, I believe you are misinterpreting their response (Indian British English?). What I think they are saying is logon as root and change the permissions to grant access to a particular device which is exactly what I've had to do for /dev/dsp on many distros to get any sounds played by mere mortals. not really since and I quote ELX believes that the main user will always be root seems very clear to me. This is not a good thing. I think they mean that root is the main user in that it is the user that shall control other users and what the other users have access to. Not that you should use the system mainly as root. I think they do not mean 'main' as 'primary'. In other words, I think you lost something in their translation ;) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:58:16 -1000 (HST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30-Dec-01 Collins Richey wrote: [snip] 5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3 was to edit /etc/inittab and reboot. [snip] telinit is just a link to init init 3 doesn't work either. init should be in /sbin. Is it there? You may need to execute '/sbin/init 3' Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Re: elx linux
-- Forwarded Message -- Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to run their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting to look and feel ___ almost Micro$oftish :( Has anyone been able to find any source code on their site? If its there, I'm definately missing it, I've looked but no joy. Subject: Re: elx linux Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:24:49 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ted, This spell check is not matured in K mail , it is still an experimental feature which soon be made proper. In linux world every bit of code is written with great passion and on the best effort basis. But we are working to make things better. ELX believes that the main user will always be root and therefore it does not give full priviledges to all users. To grant access to any device you can log in as root and run open your file manager and can grant access to any device or file. This is more of a secuirty feature. Please do keep sending your suggestions and input. Thanks for your support Happy New Year ELX Team Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:32:52 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2001 07:12 am, you wrote: /etc/inittab and reboot. [snip] telinit is just a link to init init 3 doesn't work either. init should be in /sbin. Is it there? You may need to execute '/sbin/init 3' Works on this install of elx. I use init 3 and seems to do what its suppose to. On another note, I can not seem to be able (or programs) to use ttyS0 or any serial port as a mere mortal. ttySX is owned by root and in the group uucp. even if I place the user in the group uucp I can not gain access to ttyS0 as user. I had no problems getting lp0 up and running as a user (as default it is not accessable by progs run by user other than printing) I use Pony_program_2000 to program pics and other devices and at first could do so only as root. I can at least now use it as a user on the par port but not on the serial port. Even if I change perms on (I really do not like doing this) ttyS0 I still can not access it as a user. Am I missing something here? You could try updating the uucp entry in /etc/group to read uucp:x:14:uucp,collins where 'collins' is my normal user name. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Re: elx linux
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to run their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting to look and feel ___ almost Micro$oftish :( Has anyone been able to find any source code on their site? If its there, I'm definately missing it, I've looked but no joy. Subject: Re: elx linux Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:24:49 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ted, This spell check is not matured in K mail , it is still an experimental feature which soon be made proper. In linux world every bit of code is written with great passion and on the best effort basis. But we are working to make things better. ELX believes that the main user will always be root and therefore it does not give full priviledges to all users. To grant access to any device you can log in as root and run open your file manager and can grant access to any device or file. This is more of a secuirty feature. Please do keep sending your suggestions and input. Ted, I believe you are misinterpreting their response (Indian British English?). What I think they are saying is logon as root and change the permissions to grant access to a particular device which is exactly what I've had to do for /dev/dsp on many distros to get any sounds played by mere mortals. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: Re: elx linux
On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:07 am, you wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 07:48:54 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Here is the reply I received from elx re: some short-coming with their distro. Its almost scary to think that anyone would be foolish enough to run their system mainly as root. Their approach is starting to look and feel ___ almost Micro$oftish :( Has anyone been able to find any source code on their site? If its there, I'm definately missing it, I've looked but no joy. Subject: Re: elx linux Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:24:49 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ted, This spell check is not matured in K mail , it is still an experimental feature which soon be made proper. In linux world every bit of code is written with great passion and on the best effort basis. But we are working to make things better. ELX believes that the main user will always be root and therefore it does not give full priviledges to all users. To grant access to any device you can log in as root and run open your file manager and can grant access to any device or file. This is more of a secuirty feature. Please do keep sending your suggestions and input. Ted, I believe you are misinterpreting their response (Indian British English?). What I think they are saying is logon as root and change the permissions to grant access to a particular device which is exactly what I've had to do for /dev/dsp on many distros to get any sounds played by mere mortals. not really since and I quote ELX believes that the main user will always be root seems very clear to me. This is not a good thing. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
elx linux evaluation continued
Well, my beloved gentoo distro has become somewhat unstable, so I've switched back to elx at least temporarily. A few notes: 1) I've stripped out some of the offending daemons, so startup/shutdown is a little faster. Still looking at removing others, but going slow to avoid breaking anything. 2) The sysv editor they offer on the kde menu is broken - segfaults immediately, but they do offer tksysv which works. 3) I found rpm versions of xfce and sylpheed, and they went in without a hitch, even though not specifically designed for elx. It appears that anything redhat/mandrake crafted will work. 4) Most of my problems with the 2.4.17 kernel are not compiler related, but rather due to the elx default kernel config compiling everything under the sun. When I backed out to my standard config, even the much maligned (by me) gcc3 compiler works ok. Now I'm up and running on the new kernel, but elx wants something called 'supermount' in the kernel. Causes a few failed messages at boot, but nothing serious. Will need to track down. 5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3 was to edit /etc/inittab and reboot. 6) The earlier reported inability to get to cd-rw devices was solved by the earlier post from Mike Andrew - elx uses /dev/scd0... instead of /dev/sr0 7) Still running on reiserfs - will investigate ext3 soon. 8) Even found an rpm version of aterm that works. 9) Found and fixed the beloved by mandrake, et al., but not by me, aliases that make every rm command prompt for permission. elx sticks this in the ~/.bashrc file, so I probably need to trash it in the skeleton file for users as well. 10) Still finding and fixing font sizes for various apps, since elx brought up my screen in the highest resolution available. Yeah, I know how to change the resolution, but I like the additional screen real estate provided by the higher resolution. 11) Still need to drag over some of my ...rc files for xfce so I can get rid of the ugly gray terminal screens. May the force be with you! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: elx linux evaluation continued
On 30-Dec-01 Collins Richey wrote: [snip] 5) Unlike every distro I've used in the past, elx does not include the telinit command, so the only way I could switch to run level 3 was to edit /etc/inittab and reboot. [snip] telinit is just a link to init -- Gary 2:58pm up 40 days, 5:10, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
On Saturday 29 December 2001 04:36 pm, you wrote: 4) Most of my problems with the 2.4.17 kernel are not compiler related, but rather due to the elx default kernel config compiling everything under the sun. When I backed out to my standard config, even the much maligned (by me) gcc3 compiler works ok. Now I'm up and running on the new kernel, but elx wants something called 'supermount' in the kernel. Causes a few failed messages at boot, but nothing serious. Will need to track down. Perhaps because it calls for supermount in fstab. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux evaluation continued
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:28:42 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 29 December 2001 04:36 pm, you wrote: 4) Most of my problems with the 2.4.17 kernel are not compiler related, but rather due to the elx default kernel config compiling everything under the sun. When I backed out to my standard config, even the much maligned(by me) gcc3 compiler works ok. Now I'm up and running on the new kernel, but elx wants something called 'supermount' in the kernel. Causes a fewfailed messages at boot, but nothing serious. Will need to track down. Perhaps because it calls for supermount in fstab. Yes, indeed it does, but only for cdrom floppy which are not critical Any idea where this little devil gets enabled in the kernel, ie save me the tedium of going through the config? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
See bottom. Recently, somebody somewhere said: On Wednesday 26 December 2001 11:40 am, you wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. What port are you trying to connect to? Webmin (depending on the version) is usually at: http://localhost:1 or https://localhost:1000 (secure) I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me. I've never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro (Caldera, Redhat, Mandrake nor Redmond) I have not had much time to play with this, I'll hack at it some more tomorrow. The login window comes up, I enter root and mypassword_for_root and each time it returns LOGIN FAILED:( I got this, and some nice guy threw me this lifeline: Check for /etc/securetty. Mine reads like this # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty1 # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty2 # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty3 # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty4 # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty5 # Mandrake-Security : if you remove this comment, remove the next line too. tty6 -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
Recently, somebody somewhere said: Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work. SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data. Ahem, beg pardon of my ignorance, but have you tried /dev/scd0? It seems to work for me. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 02:36 am, you wrote: Recently, somebody somewhere said: Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work. SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data. Ahem, beg pardon of my ignorance, but have you tried /dev/scd0? It seems to work for me. Been using Caldera for so long never thought of scdX as the dev's. You are right, I deleted /dev/cdrom and linked cdrom to scd0 and all works just great. I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
Ted Ozolins wrote: I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. What port are you trying to connect to? Webmin (depending on the version) is usually at: http://localhost:1 or https://localhost:1000 (secure) -- Andrew Mathews 12:38pm up 5:12, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.15, 1.15 My doctorate's in Literature, but it seems like a pretty good pulse to me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 11:40 am, you wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. What port are you trying to connect to? Webmin (depending on the version) is usually at: http://localhost:1 or https://localhost:1000 (secure) I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me. I've never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro (Caldera, Redhat, Mandrake nor Redmond) I have not had much time to play with this, I'll hack at it some more tomorrow. The login window comes up, I enter root and mypassword_for_root and each time it returns LOGIN FAILED:( Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
Just wondering, has anyone sent an email to ELX on these couple of items we are all having a problem with? After all, their site says its supposed to be set up so any novice can immediately work in Linux and basically have no problems. Ray On 26 Dec 2001, at 10:32, Ted Ozolins wrote: On Wednesday 26 December 2001 02:36 am, you wrote: Recently, somebody somewhere said: Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work. SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data. Ahem, beg pardon of my ignorance, but have you tried /dev/scd0? It seems to work for me. Been using Caldera for so long never thought of scdX as the dev's. You are right, I deleted /dev/cdrom and linked cdrom to scd0 and all works just great. I still can not log into webmin. I'll rpm -e webmin and re-install it and see if that fixes the beast. I can log into swat with no problems. I'm using Mozilla as the browser. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 01:16 pm, you wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: snip I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me. I've never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro (Caldera, Redhat, Mandrake nor Redmond) I have not had much time to play with this, I'll hack at it some more tomorrow. The login window comes up, I enter root and mypassword_for_root and each time it returns LOGIN FAILED:( Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Did you try running /usr/libexec/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root (newpasswd) to reset the password? The problem is with the webmin config file as it has the wrong host name. Changing this to just localhost fixed the login problem. It has been some time since I've worked with lilo so I'll have to RTFM and find the correct syntax for adding the notail option since this is runing the reiserfs file system. Other than that everything else seems to just work. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:59:36 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 December 2001 01:16 pm, you wrote: Ted Ozolins wrote: snip I've tried both with no joy. This is definately a first for me. I've never had prob's logging into webmin on any other distro (Caldera, Redhat, Mandrake nor Redmond) I have not had much time to play with this, I'll hack at it some more tomorrow. The login window comes up, I enter root and mypassword_for_root and each time it returns LOGIN FAILED:( Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Did you try running /usr/libexec/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root(newpasswd) to reset the password? The problem is with the webmin config file as it has the wrong host name. Changing this to just localhost fixed the login problem. It has been some time since I've worked with lilo so I'll have to RTFM and find the correct syntax for adding the notail option since this is runing the reiserfs file system. Other than that everything else seems to just work. Sample /dev/hdc7 / reiserfs notail,auto 1 1 -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 06:31 pm, you wrote: /dev/hdc7 / reiserfs notail,auto 1 1 Thank you... ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Dec 24 Collins Richey was heard saying: -Navigate to http://www.elxlinux.com/ for more info. -My initial experience with this distro is positive: snip -8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake. *** My obvious reaction would be why not use Mandrake then? I wouldn't mind a bit more details about why this distro should be preferred above the Mandrake. -Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper -and mysql. I'll have to *** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the slight difference that Mandrake 8.1 asks what daemons you want to start at boot before finishing the install. That is an advance in some respect. Elx sounds to me as pre Mandrake 8.1, where the so called novice distributions would start the most obscure and unnecessary daemons so the newbies could be more easily hacked... Cheers, Zoran. -- Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free... -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake (was elx linux distro)
Recently, somebody somewhere said: -8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake. -Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper -and mysql. I'll have to *** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the slight difference that Mandrake 8.1 asks what daemons you want to start at boot before finishing the install. That is an advance in some respect. Elx sounds to me as pre Mandrake 8.1, where the so called novice distributions would start the most obscure and unnecessary daemons so the newbies could be more easily hacked... Mandrake (and afaik Red Hat) supply ntsysv, which is a console based program which offers you a choice of daemons to start with init; you can get in and simply hack the list to suit yourself. Then it works. No effort. There's even an explanation of what they do. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 02:10 am, you wrote: On Dec 24 Collins Richey was heard saying: -Navigate to http://www.elxlinux.com/ for more info. -My initial experience with this distro is positive: snip -8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake. *** My obvious reaction would be why not use Mandrake then? I wouldn't mind a bit more details about why this distro should be preferred above the Mandrake. One reason (for newbies, at least) might be the uncluttered distribution sequence - not very many choices, since everything critical is autodetected under the covers. Another reason might be - give the little guys a chance. Also, I like to tinker. My gentoo distro is so reliable, it's boring, so life on the edge helps me get by. Another reason might the the substantial amount of documentation that comes with the distro. Even topics like how to use autoconf, make, etc. that may prove helpful for newbies that want to stray into the realm of development. Why did I climb the mountain? Because it was there. -Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper -and mysql. I'll have to *** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the slight difference that Mandrake 8.1 asks what daemons you want to start at boot before finishing the install. That is an advance in some respect. Elx sounds to me as pre Mandrake 8.1, where the so called novice distributions would start the most obscure and unnecessary daemons so the newbies could be more easily hacked... The daemons started aren't particularly obscure, just (from my standpoint only) unneeded. FYI, everything in the distro is quite up to date. Only the cups, e2fsprogs, glibc, and perl packages are one notch lower that what I have on gentoo. Elx has chosen rpm 4.0.3-1, so there shouldn't be the usual problem with rpms that fail to install because they are packaged for the newer rpm. All the development rpms have been installed, so installing more software should not be a problem. I'm looking forward to putting up xfce and upgrading the kernel. I'm not looking forward to dealing with rpm again - yuck! Thanks, Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
I also did the download of Elx. I did 2 installs with it, same machine twice. MachineVia Apollo chipset, AMD K6 2-500, 256 megs ram, PCI Riva TNT Graphics Card, Fijitsu 10 meg primary with Windows, Western Dig 20 Gig blank secondary, Lite-on CD-RW, Generic 56x CD, Sylvania F74 monitor, MS Mouse, Sound Blaster 16 PCI. First Install Custom Went pretty much as Collins did except that I installed everything. Just to see what would happen. The Partitioning I think is a minor problem as I had the same problem being unable to select which hard drive. However after pressing tab and watching closely, eventually you could see a faint highlight on the Drive section then use the down arrow to select hdb. The rest of the install went pretty smooth and didn't have to do much at all except indicate DHCP and root password. After the reboot I entered KDE. Ran the config wizard that comes up to set up KDE Desktop. All went well. The panel and menus are re- done not standard KDE that we are all familiar with however its not that big a deal. Actually makes more sense and does not have as much duplication. The panel or taskbar at the bottom of the screen is totally different offering a selection of icons that launch a button menu of various programs. One such is the Internet button. Clicking it brings up a window of icons with all the internet programs such as browsers, messengers, email programs, download mgrs, etc, there is a 'help' or description screen at the bottom of the window as you rollover each button. In all there are about 6 of these icons in the panel. Desktop, Internet, Office, Development, Configuration, My Computer. Oh yeahOn the main desktop is an Icon for My Computer, very similiar in function to Windows my Computer, and also an Icon for Network Neighborhood, also similiar to Windows. I had 3 problems with the custom install, ELX did not configure my sound card correctly, nor did it configure the CD-RW or CD-R properly so that I could pop in a cd and browse. And finally while it did find not only the Windows hard drive on the machine, and 2 other machines that were also on the network. I could not browse or mount them for browsing. Because of the above problems, I decided to try a reinstall, so I deleted the partitions and did a. Default Install Almost is hands off install. had to select DHCP and root password, also had the option of choosing pkgs and whether to make a boot disk. Went well, it found and partitioned HDB and left alone the Windows Drive. Everything else was about the same. Had the same problems with the CD-RW and CD-R, Same Sound problems, Same no browsing of Network Machines. However, I had to leave for awhile and shut down the machine, when I came back and rebooted it, it went to Kudzu and found the sound card and configured it correctly. Still could not browse the CD-RW or the CD-R. I set up a new Icon for the desktop and discovered the problem or at least part of it. FSTAB had both set as CDROM not CDROM and CDROM1 also did not have the CDRW as a SCSI device altho CDR-Toast did recognize it and allowed me to configure it. I tried browsing, both but for some reason couldn't. I looked in the file manager and there were locks placed on /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/cdrom1, and /mnt/floppy. Why I haven't a clue at this point. Still couldn't browse or mount the other networked machines. Probably some simple configuration or other. The Distro appears to be either Mandrake or RH based. Uses RPM's. Default is Reiserfs. I felt a lot of thought and work has gone into the menus and into the installation and probably would work ok with only one CD-RW or CD-R. I also felt it would be a pretty good distro for a Linux Newbie. As long as there was someone to help out nearby if they ran into a problem. Sorry this is not more technical, but I wanted to 'play dumb' and see if it would do everything without any knowledge of Linux. As this is actually a pre1 distro, I didn't really expect it to be foolproof yet. One last thing, I was disappointed with the speed it operated on my machine, altho it was a bit faster than Mandrake 8.1 it was much slower than Libranet 1.9.1 all of which I have recently tried on this machine. Oh well, its sold for Xmas and I had to clean it off so don't have to worry about it anyway. hahaha Merry Xmas to all Ray Plummer Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake (was elx linux distro)
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 05:42 am, you wrote: Recently, somebody somewhere said: -8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake. -Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper -and mysql. I'll have to *** Yep, that looks much like Mandrake (a.k.a. Red Hat :-). With the slight difference that Mandrake 8.1 asks what daemons you want to start at boot before finishing the install. That is an advance in some respect. Elx sounds to me as pre Mandrake 8.1, where the so called novice distributions would start the most obscure and unnecessary daemons so the newbies could be more easily hacked... Mandrake (and afaik Red Hat) supply ntsysv, which is a console based program which offers you a choice of daemons to start with init; you can get in and simply hack the list to suit yourself. Then it works. No effort. There's even an explanation of what they do. Yes, nysysv and appropriate man entries are available on elx, too. Thanks, Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 10:53 am, you wrote: After the reboot I entered KDE. Ran the config wizard that comes up to set up KDE Desktop. All went well. The panel and menus are re- done not standard KDE that we are all familiar with however its not that big a deal. Actually makes more sense and does not have as much duplication. T Oh yeahOn the main desktop is an Icon for My Computer, very similiar in function to Windows my Computer, and also an Icon for Network Neighborhood, also similiar to Windows. gnome is setup pretty much the same - the Windows user will feel right at home. I had 3 problems with the custom install, ELX did not configure my sound card correctly, nor did it configure the CD-RW or CD-R properly so that I could pop in a cd and browse. No problems with my essolo1 sound card. Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work. SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data. One last thing, I was disappointed with the speed it operated on my machine, altho it was a bit faster than Mandrake 8.1 it was much slower than Libranet 1.9.1 all of which I have recently tried on this machine. Oh well, its sold for Xmas and I had to clean it off so don't have to worry about it anyway. hahaha Pretty slow here, too. I'm compiling a kernel now and will soon pare down the daemons. We'll see. Thanks, Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 10:53 am, you wrote: I also did the download of Elx. I did 2 installs with it, same machine twice. Well, this one is doa! They've picked a compiler (gcc-3.0.2) that doesn't do kernels! You'd think distro makers would learn? This is what I would expect from Redhat! Plonk! Thanks, Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: elx linux distro
Collins Richey wrote: Yep, you're right about the CDROMS - no devices sg0-1 and sr0-1, I'm buggered how to set them up; MAKEDEV doesn't seen to work. SCSI support is there, however. cdrecord --scanbus returns the expected data. Try man mknod. And you may need to look at devices.txt in the kernel docs to get major/minor numbers. MAKEDEV is a wrapper for mknod. I've urged the LFS people to use mknod instead, at least initially, so that people will be introduced to it. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
elx linux distro
Navigate tohttp://www.elxlinux.com/ for more info. My initial experience with this distro is positive: 1) Download and burn two cd's worth of day (about 1hr:45mins on cable, 40 minutes to burn on my slow cd-writer. 2) Boot from CD (I have to toggle this setting on my BIOS each time). The CD detects everything necessary (including exact details of my video card and monitor - kudos) and starts X - everything else is eye-candy gui based. 3) Don't choose the default option if you have anything other than Windows to preserve on your harddrive! elx would clear off everything but the windows partitions! 4) I chose the custom option and chose everything except the server category. This amounts to about 2.6G. The partition selection is a bit confusing since they show the hard drives in one pannel and the partitions in another, and you can click on the hard drive choices untill you are blue in the face - only the partitions in the other panel are selectable. Fortunately, the default choice is a reiserfs system. 5) After everything loaded down, and I created a boot floppy, the system booted without a hitch into run level 5. I chose the gnome option first, and I still don't like gnome any better that the last time. 6) dhcp works A-OK, and there's a lot of browsers to choose from, including my favorite, galeon. There were no questions to answer, but elx did the right thing for my tulip card. Galeon segfaulted after the initial wizard series, but it came right back. 7) kde works, too, and kmail, as you can see. The only immediate flaw I see is that the fstab entry for the root file system doesn't have the notail option, which would create a problem for grub. I fixed that in short order. 8) All in all, this looks very much like Mandrake. Elx starts every imaginable daemon, including webmin and portmapper and mysql. I'll have to see how much effort it is to strip it down to a reasonable size. Right now it's a pretty sluggish startup. Should be fairly simple. It's a standard sysvinit type setup with the usual Sxx and Kxx startup and shutdown scripts. It appears to be LSB (or Redhat) compliant - nothing in /opt except wine. It's supposed to be rpm based. 9) My soundcard was detected and works (elx is using alsa). Cups was setup properly, and a quick visit to cups admin setup my printer in short order. Cups is very up to date - first time I've seen a choice for my hp lj1100. It has the right interface for the lpxxx/cups stuff, so the normal lpxx commands work without a hitch. 10) There's a lot of documentation online - I haven't looked at it in depth. 11) This would be a really good distro for a novice - pretty painless to install. If you have a speedier computer, you probably won't notice the lengthy startup as much. 12) Alas, no xfce or sylpheed. I'll give these a try and put up the current kernel and chop away a few of the started daemons. Enjoy, Collins ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ELX Linux
For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available for download today. The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. you can get it at www.elxlinux.com click on download Ray Ray Nancy Plummer Copper, Elektra WOK http://www.nanray.cjb.net/gsdped/gsdbintro.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ELX Linux
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:50:17 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of you who like to try new distros, ELX Linux is available for download today. The FTP connection didn't work but the HTTP one did. I haven't finished downloading it yet so don't have any other comments. you can get it at www.elxlinux.com click on download Must have just been max connections open on the server. I'm downloading it now using the ftp connection. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 22DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
