Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-10-16 Thread WebDawg
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Todd Russell wrote: > Final update on this issue. When I took it down, I pulled the drive and > started a Level 2 SpinRite on it while I took out and reseated the RAM then > ran memtest. I found no errors in either test, so I also took out the

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-10-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 02 Sep 2016 13:33:35 NZST +1200, compdoc wrote: > As for me, these days I install only SSDs in desktop systems that run > 24/7, and also use them as boot drives for servers. Over the years I > have had only one SSD fail, and it did show pending sectors in SMART. That's not my observation

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-10-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 02 Sep 2016 10:14:59 NZST +1200, Todd Russell wrote: > I will just run level 2 SpinRite on the SSD to force the drive to read > every spot, which should trigger the error correction if that is happening. Ehh, you use what for that? Toss spinrite into the bit bucket as suggested. Log into

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-08 Thread Espen Johansen
Compdoc: Your spinrite comments just show how dangerous some knowledge is without propper understanding. Spinrite does indeed force SSDs to "fix" themselves because it reads extensively (causes heat) and forces "half" working areas to be marked bad. Most SSDs has minor defects from day one. Just

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-08 Thread Todd Russell
Final update on this issue. When I took it down, I pulled the drive and started a Level 2 SpinRite on it while I took out and reseated the RAM then ran memtest. I found no errors in either test, so I also took out the Intel 4 port gigabit card and reseated that, then put everything back together.

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread compdoc
>I'd suggest that before you slag programs, you not rely on old, outdated, >biased information. Spinrite 6 is a twelve year program that seemed cool back in the day, but I would never recommend it to anyone now. Repairing computers for a living, Im always on the lookout for useful

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread WebDawg
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Walter Parker wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:06 PM, compdoc wrote: > >> >>Coming back tonight to do memtest, SpinRite on the SSD, etc..., >> >> Spinrite on an ssd is a terrible idea. It's an ancient program thats even a

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Walter Parker
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:06 PM, compdoc wrote: > >>Coming back tonight to do memtest, SpinRite on the SSD, etc..., > > Spinrite on an ssd is a terrible idea. It's an ancient program thats even a > bad idea to use on hard drives. > > It doesn't even work on drives larger

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread WebDawg
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Todd Russell wrote: > 1 possible clue I didn't mention. Early in the week, I enabled ssh for the > first time and it started generating ssh keys... but it never finished. > Hours later I still couldn't ssh in and shrugged my shoulders and forgot

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Todd Russell
1 possible clue I didn't mention. Early in the week, I enabled ssh for the first time and it started generating ssh keys... but it never finished. Hours later I still couldn't ssh in and shrugged my shoulders and forgot about it. After the first hard lock reboot, the next time I logged into the

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Todd Russell
> > If that supermicro atom board is not ecc then memory could be a > culprit. I agree though: Spinrite on an SSD? > See above about SpinRite. Actually have seen Level 2 force a Samsung SSD to do the error correction to silently recover data that was not being read back before. > How are you

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Todd Russell
I will just run level 2 SpinRite on the SSD to force the drive to read every spot, which should trigger the error correction if that is happening. I was planning to check the caps when I get here later tonight as I have plenty experience with that scourge. :/ I did use the diagnostics in the web

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread WebDawg
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Todd Russell wrote: > Everything had been fine for ages. Had a hard lock Tuesday before lunch... > couldn't ping it, no response at physical kb, had to hard reboot it. > > Came back late that night to apply 2.3.2 update. Had another hard lock >

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Moshe Katz
I have seen those symptoms on three different machines over the years, and all of them were hardware failures - RAM on one of them, power supply on another, and an old consumer-grade PCI network card on the third. (Most of the pfSense machines I support are running low-end salvaged hardware, so in

Re: [pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread compdoc
>>Coming back tonight to do memtest, SpinRite on the SSD, etc..., Spinrite on an ssd is a terrible idea. It's an ancient program thats even a bad idea to use on hard drives. It doesn't even work on drives larger than 1TB, because it was written in a time when drives were not that big. And there

[pfSense] 3 hard locks this week... any ideas?

2016-09-01 Thread Todd Russell
Everything had been fine for ages. Had a hard lock Tuesday before lunch... couldn't ping it, no response at physical kb, had to hard reboot it. Came back late that night to apply 2.3.2 update. Had another hard lock today a little after noon. Was looking into it and getting set up to ssh in from