Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Cheryl Lead
I was actually a judge for the AIMIA awards and it was interesting going through the judging criteria. Accessibility and Usability were judged together, I think for a total of 15 or 20 points. The first thing I looked at was the code on all the sites - out of the 5 sites I was judging, 4 of them

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Lachlan Hardy
What about W3C validation especially for business.gov.au 60 HTML errors, meta tags, alt tags? I haven't worked on the business.vic.gov.au site since early 2006, but at the time it had almost perfect validation. There were some errors still remaining in various pockets of content transferred

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 1/24/07, Cheryl Lead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did write a lot of comments about it though so hopefully these comments will make it back to the site owners. It's just such a shame that in 2006 (when the judging was done) the majority of companies are still so unaware of accessibility

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Cheryl Lead
AIMIA is traditionally very multimedia-based rather than web-based, which influences the types of entries, I think. In previous years it's always been the Flash-driven and very flashy sites that have won over the usable and accessible. So true - I wanted the usable accessible sites to win in

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Noah
So indicative of the fine line between good design and good business, which often do not seem to take notice of each other until someone truly inspired gets a chance to make an impression on the delivery method. True online accessibility must also be visually appealing, while

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
[...] Nothing bugs me more than a super-cool looking site that shows off the ability of the artist who built it, yet does nothing for the idea, product or service it promotes. Art for art's sake is fantastic. Businesses need more. Noah But any design without art, feeling and emotions

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Noah at 01/24/07 11:10... Nothing bugs me more than a super-cool looking site that shows off the ability of the artist who built it, yet does nothing for the idea, product or service it promotes. Or, of course, breaks the law. Accessibility is a legal requirement in Australia[1],

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer at 01/24/07 11:32... But any design without art, feeling and emotions is trivial and boring We can be artistic and accessible, and need to prove it time and time again to dispel the myth that accessible is ugly. Artists and techies can work

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
We can be artistic and accessible, and need to prove it time and time again to dispel the myth that accessible is ugly. Artists and techies can work together - I've done it before AND we were still talking to each other at the end ;-) -- Matthew Smith Of course Matthew - You've got right

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Noah
It's really the only way to go if you want to deliver true value to your clients and provide forward-thinking results on the cutting edge. Anybody can make pretty pictures; true value is in making those designs do more than just look good. Noah Quoting Matthew Smith [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 12:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists Quoth Noah at 01/24/07 11:10... Nothing bugs me more than

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
- Be my Guest! Mobile contact: +44 079.23.388.905 (UK) - Original Message - From: Noah To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists Quoting Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoth Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Tim
Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Smith Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 12:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists Quoth Noah at 01/24/07 11:10... Nothing bugs

RE: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 1:19 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists No Andreas http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html

RE: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Jermayn Parker
Asfar as I know accessibility compliance is a requirement for every new govt website project that is out for tender. Yes that is right. I am involved at the moment of a redesign of a gov website and we have to create the website to cover level 3 standards...

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread russ - maxdesign
They are flawed and stay flawed everyday. Get real Andreas. Everyone please take a deep breath and calm down. We are all on the same side. No need for friendly fire. :) Russ (Admin - with flack jacket on) *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Tim
:19 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists No Andreas http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html Australian gov websites are not tested for accessibility before they are launched. I am sure there are lots of people on this list that will disagree

RE: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-22 Thread Samuel Richardson
It's interesting that under the Childrens section, Click Suite has picked up awards for both Moa and Survivor. Both produced by Click Suite (an NZ agency) and Te Papa (the New Zealand museum) This is for the Australian Interactive Media Awards! Is this another case of Australia trying to steal

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-22 Thread Seona Bellamy
I've just started working for the company responsible for one fo the finalists (the Pioneer site). I've only been here a week, though, so I can't take any kudos for it other than vicarious ones. ;) I have to admit, I've noticed that very thing about the sites that I've been playing with here

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-22 Thread Jeffery Lowder - Accessibility 1st
Yeah I was involved in 2 http://www.business.vic.gov.au - I did the accessibility audits for this site for iFocus http://www.actnow.com.au/ - I created the HTML templates for this site for Massive With regard to accessibility not being an issue, it was a big issue for the Business Vic

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-22 Thread Lachlan Hardy
On 23/01/07, Jeffery Lowder - Accessibility 1st [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.business.vic.gov.au - I did the accessibility audits for this site for iFocus I worked on this one for iFocus too. My job was working out how to fix the things that the accessibility testing found. As well as

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-22 Thread Tim
But Jeffery, Lachan and Seona et al, What about W3C validation especially for business.gov.au 60 HTML errors, meta tags, alt tags? I just completed a brief review of a small sample of AIMIA winners for W3C validation, the few I tested did not validate! The McFarlane awards had better standards