[WSG] Re: Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Thierry Koblentz writes: Actually, using images to explain this behavior makes perfect sense. These would say "CSS" in LTR *and* RTL These would say "CSS" in LTR but "SSC" in RTL one of the issues with your example is that you set the unicode-bidi attribute to "embed". If you didn't hav

Re: [WSG] IE-png transparency hack for background images

2006-10-20 Thread Michael Cordover
Hi Everyone, So I've been having troulbe with IE-PNG relations - not entirely surprising. Doing a search through my WSG archives I found the email to which this responds. The trouble is, it's not working. In fact, it's giving an identical result to no correction. Then again, so does trying ba

Re: [WSG] Re: Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Andrew Cunningham wrote: > It displays in Firefox and IE as I would expect. > > Since you have each list item displaying as an inline element rather > than a block element, it should behave just like any other inline > element, and thus whitespace is important. > although, in the first example you

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles Roper wrote: On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where does it say in the spec that an href attribute has to point to to a network-retrievable resource? It explicitly allows URIs, including both URLs and URNs. OK, I should rephrase that to "If it were a URL then that

Re: [WSG] IE6 -> IE7

2006-10-20 Thread David Cameron
I've got an installation of Win XP Pro on WMware and it and the 'real' version on my PC validate and accept updates without problems. Perhaps it's because I'm using a static IP and the same internal IP for both, and that the setup (mobo, RAM, gfx etc) is identical. Using the virtual setup to c

[WSG] Re: Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Andrew Cunningham
It displays in Firefox and IE as I would expect. Since you have each list item displaying as an inline element rather than a block element, it should behave just like any other inline element, and thus whitespace is important. Remember that the text you are using in your excample is inherentl

Re: [WSG] IE6 -> IE7

2006-10-20 Thread John Faulds
I agree, though, that a virtual machine is the way to go for those who need multiple installs, especially given that Virtual PC for Windows is now a free download. Does using Microsoft's Virtual PC make any difference as to the legality of running the same copy of Windows on different virtu

RE: [WSG] IE Issue: focus not set on image buttons within a floated div

2006-10-20 Thread Richard Ishida
I don't know if it's actually related or not, but we had to change our pages to work on IE7. See for example http://www.w3.org/International/articles/language-tags/ The stuff floated to the right (ie. that column) was only partially visible and you couldn't click inside the search field or on a

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> I just found the issue and put something together: >> http://www.tjkdesign.com/test/whitespace_and_rtl_direction.asp > Just an observation: whitespace doesn't matter in Opera 9 (from prev1 > onwards). > So, whitespace may be important to browsers

RE: [WSG] IE Issue: focus not set on image buttons within a floated div

2006-10-20 Thread Ruiz, Kevin
okay team...I solved my own problem. In case anyone has a similar issue in the future the solution was as simple as adding a margin to the inputs within the floated divs. #btn_back input, #btn_next input { margin:1px; } kind of embarassing the solution was so si

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't this make it inappropriate for an href in the context of a > web page? No. The attributes: href, cite, data, src, longdesc, etc. are defined to contain URIs, not just URLs. It is not unprecedented to use a URN in such an attribute.

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I just found the issue and put something together: http://www.tjkdesign.com/test/whitespace_and_rtl_direction.asp Just an observation: whitespace doesn't matter in Opera 9 (from prev1 onwards). So, whitespace may be important to browsers when dealing with such cases, but

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles Roper wrote: On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles Roper wrote: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class="urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114" Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in o

RE: [WSG] IE Issue: focus not set on image buttons within a floated div

2006-10-20 Thread Ruiz, Kevin
If I include an additional element, a form field or even a single character, in the div the focus ring is visable. I'm not suggestion this as a solution...just hopefully something that will trigger an idea from someone as to how to fix this properly. -Original Message- From: listdad@web

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 20 Oct 2006, at 15:26:10, Lachlan Hunt wrote: escape sequences allow the use of absolutely any character at all. Yes, but the linked part of the CSS 2.1 spec states of identifiers used in CSS, including class names used in class selectors, that "they cannot start wi

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Lachlan Hunt wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> I have two Unordered Lists: >> - one contains text in A elements (Text) >> - one contains image in A elements () >> CSS: >> li {display:inline} >> >> How come the display of the two is *different* (regarding >> orientation) when I use "RTL" with the

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 18:34:44, Charles Roper wrote: OK, so "urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114" would actually be a valid class name then? The LSID would almost certainly never be used as a CSS selector (should never rule the possibility out, though), so if it's valid in its unescaped form then th

Re: [WSG] IE6 -> IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 17:26:35, Rahul Gonsalves wrote: Ted Drake wrote: I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 15:26:10, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 20 Oct 2006, at 13:42:51, Anders Nawroth wrote: Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 Good point, Anders; Charles, please note this as a c

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
On 20/10/06, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Charles Roper wrote: > I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): > > class="urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114" Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in or maybe . It's actu

Re: [WSG] IE6 -> IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Ted Drake wrote: I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn't going to help your web development. Ted Paranoia? I

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Charles Roper wrote: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class="urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114" Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place for it is in or maybe . From what I gleaned from the CSS spec, I escaped it to this: c

Re: [WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I have two Unordered Lists: - one contains text in A elements (Text) - one contains image in A elements () CSS: li {display:inline} How come the display of the two is *different* (regarding orientation) when I use "RTL" with the DIR attribute? Can you publish some mini

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread David Dorward
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 04:45:49PM +0100, Charles Roper wrote: > >From what I gleaned from the CSS spec, I escaped it to this: > > class="urn\:lsid\:ubio\.org\:namebank\:530114" > Is that now valid (in terms of CSS) as far as anyone can see? You need to escape the characters in the _CSS_, not in

RE: [WSG] IE6 -> IE7

2006-10-20 Thread Ted Drake
I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn't going to help your web development. Ted -Original Message- From

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
Thanks all - what a great response. I did end up reading the CSS 2.1 spec but as has been pointed out, a CSS selector does not necessarily equal an HTML class name. Here's a bit of background: I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a microformat): class="urn:lsid:ubio.org:nam

RE: [WSG] IE Issue: focus not set on image buttons within a floated div

2006-10-20 Thread Ruiz, Kevin
Thanks for the replies...I had to put this on the backburner for a while but would like to pick it up again. To answer your questions: 1. The focus does appear when the div is not floated 2. I'm using my code looks like... when I float the two divs i assign them IDs of "btn_next" and "btn_

[WSG] Lists and DIR=RTL

2006-10-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I have two Unordered Lists: - one contains text in A elements (Text) - one contains image in A elements () CSS: li {display:inline} How come the display of the two is *different* (regarding orientation) when I use "RTL" with the DIR attribute? I can get both showing RTL using "display:table-cell"

[WSG] Is my DOM-script best practice?

2006-10-20 Thread Keryx webb
Hello all! On the page http://keryx.se/dev/brCh/browserval.xhtml I have a DOM-scripting demo. (For reasons I'll explain below you can't use MSIE to view the page.) The page per se is not meant to be accessible or good design, but the script is supposed to be an example of best practice DOM-scr

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 20 Oct 2006, at 13:42:51, Anders Nawroth wrote: Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 Good point, Anders; Charles, please note this as a correction to the relevant part of my own response

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 13:42:51, Anders Nawroth wrote: Charles Roper skrev: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Anders Nawroth
Charles Roper skrev: Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. Be aware that there are different rules for class names in CSS vs. HTML! http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#q6 In CSS 2.1, identifiers (incl

Re: [WSG] Combined rounded and squared corner tabs

2006-10-20 Thread Clint Ecker
The niftycube method claims to be able to do rounded tabs: http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/index.html See example 4: http://www.html.it/articoli/niftycube/nifty4.html You and mix and match curved and uncurved, I'm sure. Clint On 10/19/06, TomGou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, An

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 20 Oct 2006, at 12:41:02, Charles Roper wrote: Hi, Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched and searched but can't find a definitive list. When in doubt, read the spec ;-) HTML 4.01 defines

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Mihael Zadravec
interesting question..I always use only alphabetic caracters and sign "_" to make multiple_word class names...numeric caracters are alse valid...On 10/20/06, Charles Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of charactersthat are valid to use in H

Re: [WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread David Dorward
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 12:41:02PM +0100, Charles Roper wrote: > Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters > that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched > and searched but can't find a definitive list. It's a CDATA list, you can use any characte

[WSG] Valid characters in class names

2006-10-20 Thread Charles Roper
Hi, Can anyone point me to a reference (or simply post here) of characters that are valid to use in HTML class attribute values. I've searched and searched but can't find a definitive list. Many thanks, Charles *** List Guideline

Re: [WSG] styling the optgroup

2006-10-20 Thread Mihael Zadravec
Try this link:http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/form.htmlOn 10/20/06, Designer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Am I correct in thinking that styling the optgroup (and label) with CSS simply doesn't work?I am trying to get some vertical space around the label element, but sofar my expts have produced no effe

[WSG] styling the optgroup

2006-10-20 Thread Designer
Am I correct in thinking that styling the optgroup (and label) with CSS simply doesn't work? I am trying to get some vertical space around the label element, but so far my expts have produced no effect whatsoever. I've googled this, but only found a 2004 ref which seems a bit bleak. As it's