Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/4/06 2:29 AM "Suliana Abbay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: > Another helpful article on creating great HTML e-mail messages.. > This article have managed to sum up all the important info. into a short > article as opposed > > http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/html-emails Only

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Suliana Abbay
@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Peper Sent: 04 July 2006 08:38 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? Bojana Lalic wrote: > I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn't > displaying the co

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Christian Peper
Bojana Lalic wrote: > I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn't > displaying the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two > columns it only displays one and also strips out all the css. [schnipp] > Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Mathew Patterson wrote: I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email. However, in a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon. Mathew On 03/07/2006, at 6:45 PM, Mark Harris wrot

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? ADMIN

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris
russ - maxdesign wrote: ADMIN This thread is only just on-topic. While we are talking about HTML email styling and markup it is still of value. However, we will NOT get into debates about the good and bad of HTML email on the list. This is definitely off-topic and can quickly degenerate into fl

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? ADMIN

2006-07-03 Thread russ - maxdesign
ADMIN This thread is only just on-topic. While we are talking about HTML email styling and markup it is still of value. However, we will NOT get into debates about the good and bad of HTML email on the list. This is definitely off-topic and can quickly degenerate into flame wars. Please keep dis

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Frances Berriman
  I work for a marketing company, and in my experience of doing mailers, clients always prefer them to be singing all dancing multicoloured atrocities, and they claim they get better feedback from HTML emails (click-thru hits), over text with links to landing pages.   So, it’s pretty hard

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris
I wrote Email is SMTP or POP3 - (X)HTML is web. The servers are different, the protocols are different - everything is different. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You spoil your argument entirely there by mixing your network layers: HTML is NOT a protocol, it runs on top of HTTP, which is an

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Jan Brasna
a problem with setting a negative top margin Hotmail doesn't handle margin property, see - maybe there's a valid reason for going this way:

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Jan Brasna
I have my email set to text-only Me too... because I don't use Outlook or OE Same here... ... however this doesn't mean I can judge this and simply overlook the reasons for sending those. How these facts affect the validity of the reasons for sending HTML e-mails? You should always get th

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Steve Green
td / First Accessibilitywww.testpartners.co.ukwww.accessibility.co.uk   From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pdr ListsSent: 03 July 2006 12:37To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote: I'

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread pdr Lists
On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email.  However, in a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon. Is this just a generally accep

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread michael.brockington
> -Original Message- > From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harris > > Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That > is, don't > do HTML email) > > > Email is SMTP or POP3 - (X)HTML is web. The servers are > different,

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Carolyn Diaz
Or...give subscribers the ability to choose whether they would like to see a test-based newsletter or (X)HTML one in the same sentence in the bottom where you've put the link for them to unsubscribe if they wish. You do have an opt-out option, don't you? On 7/3/06, Mathew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mathew Patterson
On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:Exactly Mark, There is no friendship between online marketing and usability to the people. online marketing has raped the functionality and destroied people to poeple usability. Other peoples online marketing doesn't stop you using text to emailpeop

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Michael Persson
Exactly Mark, There is no friendship between online marketing and usability to the people. online marketing has raped the functionality and destroied people to poeple usability. Email spammers are a pain i the ass and we cant get rid of it... thats the backside of the internet and unfortunat

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mathew Patterson
I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email. However, in a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon. Mathew On 03/07/2006, at 6:45 PM, Mark Harris wrote: Can I be the fly in t

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris
Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That is, don't do HTML email) I have my email set to text-only as HTML email has caused me more problems over the years than anything else. It's a standard vector for malware and viruses, it downloads megs of unwanted crap to my system,

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:32:32 +0930, Bojana Lalic wrote: > Thank you all who have replied to my question. I have managed to > "fix" most of the styling in hotmail by using inline css. However, > I've got a bit of a problem with setting a negative top margin. > Surprise, surprise, it displays fine in

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew Pennell
There's an excellent article on what sort of email styling is supported in what browsers/apps here:http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_1.html **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://web

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Bojana Lalic
being read, and the same goes for padding. Regards Bojana From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Green Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:54 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] email stripping out the cs

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Germ
That is really nice of you...I may take up that offer soon as I have a few clients who are wanting the email facilitiesOn 7/3/06, Steve Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Ordinarily I would offer to test the email for you and help fix it (free of charge) but I am up to my backside in alli

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Steve Green
icSent: 03 July 2006 00:57To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? No, at the moment my css is embedded in the html, in the part. I am trying to force the table to display the text with the particular styling.   Is the following code valid? It

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Mathew Patterson
The best information I have seen on the subject is here:http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/html-emailsMathew Pattersonhttp://www.signal7.com.auhttp://www.designersinhouse.comOn 03/07/2006, at 9:39 AM, Bojana Lalic wrote:Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatl

RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Bojana Lalic
style etc.       From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lazar Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:18 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?   Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet

Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Nick Lazar
Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet in the header? i.e http://your-domain.com/css/stylesheet.css" type="text/css" media="screen" />I think you'll find it will work if you do this. It's also a good idea to include the absolute URL for any images as wellRegards,Nick.On 3 Jul 2006, at