Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/4/06 2:29 AM "Suliana Abbay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:

> Another helpful article on creating great HTML e-mail messages..
> This article have managed to sum up all the important info. into a short
> article as opposed
> 
> http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/html-emails

Only thing is one should read the entire thread first. Your link has already
been posted.

But thanks for the reinforcement! :-)

Rick



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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Suliana Abbay
Another helpful article on creating great HTML e-mail messages..
This article have managed to sum up all the important info. into a short
article as opposed 

http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/html-emails

Hope this helps.
Suli


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Sent: 04 July 2006 08:38
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Subject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

Bojana Lalic wrote:
> I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn't 
> displaying the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two 
> columns it only displays one and also strips out all the css.
[schnipp]

> Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be 
> greatly appreciated.

Please read CampaignMonitor's outstanding article on CSS support in various
email clients such as GMail, Hotmail, Yahoo and popular clients.
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_1.html

It is a continuation of Xavier Frenette's work.
http://www.xavierfrenette.com/articles/css-support-in-webmail/

Hope this helps.
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-04 Thread Christian Peper
Bojana Lalic wrote:
> I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn't
> displaying the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two
> columns it only displays one and also strips out all the css.
[schnipp]

> Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatly
> appreciated.

Please read CampaignMonitor's outstanding article on CSS support in
various email clients such as GMail, Hotmail, Yahoo and popular clients.
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_1.html

It is a continuation of Xavier Frenette's work.
http://www.xavierfrenette.com/articles/css-support-in-webmail/

Hope this helps.
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor

Mathew Patterson wrote:
I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email.  
However, in

a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails
in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon.

Mathew

On 03/07/2006, at 6:45 PM, Mark Harris wrote:

Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That is,  
don't do HTML email)





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HTML emails with images etc...

I have to make these things all the time, your best best is to use 
tables for layout, and place all your style definitions WITHIN the body 
tag, not the head tag.  Inline styles are not necessary for the most 
part.  Of course testing needs to be involved.


Yes, this is a far cry from how a compliant web page would be built, but 
in the same respect this is a totally different animal altogether.


Using that method has had pretty consistent results across most of the 
interfaces people use to read email.


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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? ADMIN

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris

russ - maxdesign wrote:

ADMIN

This thread is only just on-topic. While we are talking about HTML email
styling and markup it is still of value.

However, we will NOT get into debates about the good and bad of HTML email
on the list. This is definitely off-topic and can quickly degenerate into
flame wars.

Please keep discussions focussed around Email styling and markup only!



Your list, your rules.

But I think you're mistaken. It's an issue that confronts web developers 
trying to apply standards to their work. Discussion of why a particular 
route is taken should be as on-topic, IMHO, as how to make it happen.


And, frankly, given the virtual flame-fests that have abounded on this 
list recently, I for one was enjoying a civilised debate that explored 
some assumptions and experiences relevant to our work.


However, I'll now bow out of the conversation.

Mark Harris.


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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables? ADMIN

2006-07-03 Thread russ - maxdesign
ADMIN

This thread is only just on-topic. While we are talking about HTML email
styling and markup it is still of value.

However, we will NOT get into debates about the good and bad of HTML email
on the list. This is definitely off-topic and can quickly degenerate into
flame wars.

Please keep discussions focussed around Email styling and markup only!

Russ
Admin




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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Frances Berriman









 

I work for a marketing company, and in my
experience of doing mailers, clients always prefer them to be singing all dancing
multicoloured atrocities, and they claim they get better feedback from HTML emails
(click-thru hits), over text with links to landing pages.   So, it’s pretty
hard to argue against that.  I’d prefer no mailers at all…  they seem
dated to me.

 

Frances

 

 

 

FRANCES
BERRIMAN

http://www.fberriman.com

 





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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris

I wrote


Email is SMTP or POP3  - (X)HTML is web.  The servers are 
different, the 
  protocols are different - everything is different.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You spoil your argument entirely there by mixing your network layers:
HTML is NOT a protocol, it runs on top of HTTP, which is an equivalent
transport protocol to SMTP.

Please re-read what I wrote, Mike. I did not say that HTML was a 
protocol - I said it was for the web. In the 13 odd years it and I have 
been acquainted, this has been the case. The argument is not spoiled at 
all; it doesn't even appear bruised.


HTTP is as equivalent to SMTP as a Mack truck is equivalent to a courier 
van - they run on the same roads and enable stuff to get from A to B. 
The equivalence ends there and you choose the right vehicle for the job 
at hand.


My argument is that using (X)HTML for email is a poor choice as many 
people use roads that won't allow it to travel to it's destination. It 
also consumes more bandwidth than the text equivalent and is a security 
hazard.



The default transmission on HTTP is plain text, just as it is for SMTP,
it is only the relative conformity of the user-agents that make HTML
safe to use on the web.


And my argument is that an email package makes a lousy user agent for 
HTML-based mail, especially when trying to design to standards - there 
aren't any.


This is the *Web* Standards Group, not the Email Standards Group. Yes 
there are RFC's about encapsulating MIME types, but there is also RFC 
1855 on Netiquette Guidelines (among others), which is still enormously 
relevant. A good resource (for the geeky) is 
http://www.imc.org/rfcs.html  (IMC is the Internet Mail Consortium)




For more info on how to do it successfully, try Sitepoint:
http://www.sitepoint.com/search/search.php?ps=10&q=email+format



And, for the other side, see  Alan Isaac's article "HTML Email: Whenever 
Possible, Turn It Off!" at http://www.american.edu/cas/econ/htmlmail.htm


"Abstract
HTML email can impose costs on the recipient. Therefore HTML mail should 
be an act between consenting parties. Unless you know that you are 
writing to someone who does not mind HTML email, send plain text. "


cheers

mark


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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Jan Brasna

a problem with setting a negative top margin


Hotmail doesn't handle margin property, see 
 
- maybe there's a valid reason for going this way: 



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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Jan Brasna

I have my email set to text-only


Me too...


because I don't use Outlook or OE


Same here...

... however this doesn't mean I can judge this and simply overlook the 
reasons for sending those. How these facts affect the validity of the 
reasons for sending HTML e-mails? You should always get the message (see 
below).


Email is SMTP or POP3  - (X)HTML is web.  The servers are different, the 
 protocols are different - everything is different.


Well, maybe have a look at RFC and MIME, which is apparently more 
normative than some opinions on mailinglists.


Send a link to a web-based newsletter via email, or a text version of 
the newsletter


These two should be both included every time (the latter in every 
multi-part mail as a text alternative).


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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Steve Green



Last year the W2K News email newsletter changed from 
HTML to text and there was a massive backlash from the readers, after which the 
publishers made the format optional. After this cock up they polled the 
readership for their preferences and the majority wanted HTML, but unfortunately 
I can't find the poll results.
 
I don't have any figures for marketing campaigns but it 
is my preference to receive some types of email (such as newsletters and 
promotions) from trusted sources in HTML format.
 
Steve GreenDirectorTest 
Partners Ltd / First Accessibilitywww.testpartners.co.ukwww.accessibility.co.uk
 


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wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the 
css from tables?


On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:


  I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is 
  best for email. However, 
in
  a corporate setting HTML emails consistently 
  outperform text only emails
  in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going 
  away any time soon.
Is this just a generally accepted view, or has this been studied, with hard 
evidence and so on?

Not that I am suspicious, it's just that people are often told something is 
true, and they tell others and so on until it becomes a "generally accepted 
view".

I'd be keen to see data to support it.

Regards,
Peter



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On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email.  However, in a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon. Is this just a generally accepted view, or has this been studied, with hard evidence and so on?Not that I am suspicious, it's just that people are often told something is true, and they tell others and so on until it becomes a "generally accepted view".I'd be keen to see data to support it.Regards,Peter --Peter Dominic Ryan | raycity* : new media solutions : proven[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://raycity.com | mb: 0419 229 738 
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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread michael.brockington
> -Original Message-
> From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harris
> 
> Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That 
> is, don't 
> do HTML email)
> 

> 
> Email is SMTP or POP3  - (X)HTML is web.  The servers are 
> different, the 
>   protocols are different - everything is different.
> 

You spoil your argument entirely there by mixing your network layers:
HTML is NOT a protocol, it runs on top of HTTP, which is an equivalent
transport protocol to SMTP.

The default transmission on HTTP is plain text, just as it is for SMTP,
it is only the relative conformity of the user-agents that make HTML
safe to use on the web.

For more info on how to do it successfully, try Sitepoint:
http://www.sitepoint.com/search/search.php?ps=10&q=email+format

Regards,
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Carolyn Diaz
Or...give subscribers the ability to choose whether they would like to see a test-based newsletter or (X)HTML one in the same sentence in the bottom where you've put the link for them to unsubscribe if they wish. You do have an opt-out option, don't you?
On 7/3/06, Mathew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:
Exactly Mark, 
 
There is no friendship between online marketing and usability to the people. online marketing has 
raped the functionality and destroied people to poeple usability. Other peoples online marketing doesn't stop you using text to emailpeople does it? 
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mathew Patterson
On 03/07/2006, at 7:44 PM, Michael Persson wrote:Exactly Mark,  There is no friendship between online marketing and usability to the people. online marketing has raped the functionality and destroied people to poeple usability. Other peoples online marketing doesn't stop you using text to emailpeople does it? Mathew
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Michael Persson

Exactly Mark,

There is no friendship between online marketing and usability to the 
people. online marketing has

raped the functionality and destroied people to poeple usability.

Email spammers are a pain i the ass and we cant get rid of it... thats 
the backside

of the internet and unfortunately... the illness of daily work...

Find a better solution and get rich...

Michael




Mathew Patterson wrote:

I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email.  
However, in

a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails
in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon.

Mathew

On 03/07/2006, at 6:45 PM, Mark Harris wrote:

Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That is,  
don't do HTML email)





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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mathew Patterson
I'd agree from a personal perspective - text is best for email.  
However, in

a corporate setting HTML emails consistently outperform text only emails
in marketing campaigns, so I can't see them going away any time soon.

Mathew

On 03/07/2006, at 6:45 PM, Mark Harris wrote:

Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That is,  
don't do HTML email)




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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-03 Thread Mark Harris
Can I be the fly in the ointment here and say "don't!"? (That is, don't 
do HTML email)


I have my email set to text-only as HTML email has caused me more 
problems over the years than anything else. It's a standard vector for 
malware and viruses, it downloads megs of unwanted crap to my system, it 
never looks right in my email package (even when I view it as HTML) 
because I don't use Outlook or OE - so many reasons not to allow it.


Sure, yours might be standards capable or non-threatening or benign, but 
so many are not that I'm not prepared to take the risk. I know plenty of 
mail admins who block HTML email precisely because of the potential for 
damage.


Email is SMTP or POP3  - (X)HTML is web.  The servers are different, the 
 protocols are different - everything is different.


I don't drive a Porsche in 4WD country - it's not suited to it. It's the 
sane with (X)HTML and email - they're two different species and 
web-based stuff is just not suited to email, despite the shenanigans you 
can get up to to make it work.


Send a link to a web-based newsletter via email, or a text version of 
the newsletter - it's more accessible and more likely to get through 
business firewalls.


just my standards-based $0.02

Mark Harris


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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:32:32 +0930, Bojana Lalic wrote:

> Thank you all who have replied to my question. I have managed to
> "fix" most of the styling in hotmail by using inline css. However,
> I've got a bit of a problem with setting a negative top margin.
> Surprise, surprise, it displays fine in the browser and outlook
> email but margin isn't being applied when viewed in hotmail.
>
Hi Bojana,

I tried using styled email a year ago. At that time, I noticed that
Hotmail stripped out all references to "margin" properties, both
inline and embedded. Take a look at the source HTML to find out
if that is still the case.

Cordially,
David Hucklesby
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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew Pennell
There's an excellent article on what sort of email styling is supported in what browsers/apps here:http://www.campaignmonitor.com/blog/archives/2006/03/a_guide_to_css_1.html


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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Bojana Lalic
Thank you all who have replied to my question. I have managed to "fix" most of 
the styling in hotmail by using inline css. However, I've got a bit of a 
problem with setting a negative top margin. Surprise, surprise, it displays 
fine in the browser and outlook email but margin isn't being applied when 
viewed in hotmail.

Here is the code:

 
Title 
Subtitle 


Is my code valid?
How do I force the negative top margin to be displayed in hotmail?

By the way, changing the top margin to a +ve 100px doesn't make any difference 
in hotmail, it just isn't being read, and the same goes for padding.

Regards

Bojana


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Steve Green
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:54 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

We do loads of email testing on a wide variety of email clients and web-based 
email services and I endorse everything in the article that Mathew recommended 
- it's spot on. In particular the web-based services do some horrible things; 
in one email we tested, one of them (Hotmail or Yahoo, I can't remember) 
rewrote the code for a form so it used GET instead of POST, with the result 
that the form no longer worked.
 
Ordinarily I would offer to test the email for you and help fix it (free of 
charge) but I am up to my backside in alligators this week - hence I'm working 
at 1am on Sunday night! I would be happy to do this in the future if anyone has 
a similar problem.
 
Steve Green
Director
Test Partners Ltd / First Accessibility
www.testpartners.co.uk
www.accessibility.co.uk

 

From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Bojana Lalic
Sent: 03 July 2006 00:57
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?
No, at the moment my css is embedded in the html, in the  part. I am 
trying to force the table to display the text with the particular styling. 

Is the following code valid? It probably isn't, as it doesn't work, but how do 
I use inline styles to force the whole table to a certain font style etc. 





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Lazar
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:18 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet in the header? i.e http://your-domain.com/css/stylesheet.css"; 
type="text/css" media="screen" />

I think you'll find it will work if you do this. It's also a good idea to 
include the absolute URL for any images as well

Regards,

Nick.

On 3 Jul 2006, at 09:39, Bojana Lalic wrote:

Hi all

I am building a newsletter for the email.

I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn't displaying 
the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two columns it only displays 
one and also strips out all the css.

I have now started modifying the template and plan to use a table (the client 
doesn't care) and a lot of inline styles. So far, I have included a table, 
however, when the newsletter is sent in an email the table doesn't seem to 
preserve the styling any more. It looks perfect in the browser but not in the 
email. Is email stripping out the css out of tables a known problem?

Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatly 
appreciated.

Regards

Bojana Lalic



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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Germ
That is really nice of you...I may take up that offer soon as I have a few clients who are wanting the email facilitiesOn 7/3/06, Steve Green
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Ordinarily I would offer to test the email for you and 
help fix it (free of charge) but I am up to my backside in alligators this week 
- hence I'm working at 1am on Sunday night! I would be happy to do this in the 
future if anyone has a similar problem.
 

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2006-07-02 Thread Steve Green



We do loads of email testing on a wide variety of email 
clients and web-based email services and I endorse everything in the article 
that Mathew recommended - it's spot on. In particular the web-based services do 
some horrible things; in one email we tested, one of them (Hotmail or Yahoo, I 
can't remember) rewrote the code for a form so it used GET instead of POST, with 
the result that the form no longer worked.
 
Ordinarily I would offer to test the email for you and 
help fix it (free of charge) but I am up to my backside in alligators this week 
- hence I'm working at 1am on Sunday night! I would be happy to do this in the 
future if anyone has a similar problem.
 
Steve GreenDirectorTest 
Partners Ltd / First Accessibilitywww.testpartners.co.ukwww.accessibility.co.uk
 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bojana 
LalicSent: 03 July 2006 00:57To: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] email stripping out the 
css from tables?


No, at the moment my 
css is embedded in the html, in the  part. I am trying to force the 
table to display the text with the particular styling. 

 
Is the following code 
valid? It probably isn’t, as it doesn’t work, but how do I use inline styles to 
force the whole table to a certain font style etc. 
 
 

 




From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Nick LazarSent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:18 
AMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] email stripping out the 
css from tables?
 
Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet in the 
header? i.e http://your-domain.com/css/stylesheet.css" 
type="text/css" media="screen" />

 

I think you'll find it will work if you do this. It's 
also a good idea to include the absolute URL for any images as 
well

 

Regards,

 

Nick.

 


On 3 Jul 2006, at 09:39, Bojana Lalic 
wrote:


Hi 
all
 
I am building 
a newsletter for the email.
 
I used css 
initially but then the client complained that html wasn’t displaying the content 
as it should be. Instead of displaying two columns it only displays one and also 
strips out all the css.
 
I have now 
started modifying the template and plan to use a table (the client doesn’t care) 
and a lot of inline styles. So far, I have included a table, however, when the 
newsletter is sent in an email the table doesn’t seem to preserve the styling 
any more. It looks perfect in the browser but not in the email. Is email 
stripping out the css out of tables a known problem?
 
Any tips 
regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatly appreciated.
 
Regards
 
Bojana 
Lalic
 
 



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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Mathew Patterson
The best information I have seen on the subject is here:http://www.thinkvitamin.com/features/design/html-emailsMathew Pattersonhttp://www.signal7.com.auhttp://www.designersinhouse.comOn 03/07/2006, at 9:39 AM, Bojana Lalic wrote:Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Bojana Lalic








No, at the moment my css is embedded in
the html, in the  part. I am trying to force the table to display
the text with the particular styling. 

 

Is the following code valid? It probably isn’t,
as it doesn’t work, but how do I use inline styles to force the whole table to
a certain font style etc. 

 

 



 









From:
listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lazar
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:18
AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] email stripping
out the css from tables?



 

Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet in the header?
i.e http://your-domain.com/css/stylesheet.css"
type="text/css" media="screen" />



 





I think you'll find it will work if you do this. It's also a good idea
to include the absolute URL for any images as well





 





Regards,





 





Nick.





 





On 3 Jul 2006, at 09:39, Bojana Lalic
wrote:









Hi all

 

I am building a newsletter for the email.

 

I used css initially but then the client complained that html
wasn’t displaying the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two
columns it only displays one and also strips out all the css.

 

I have now started modifying the template and plan to use a table
(the client doesn’t care) and a lot of inline styles. So far, I have included a
table, however, when the newsletter is sent in an email the table doesn’t seem
to preserve the styling any more. It looks perfect in the browser but not in
the email. Is email stripping out the css out of tables a known problem?

 

Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be
greatly appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Bojana Lalic



 

 









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Re: [WSG] email stripping out the css from tables?

2006-07-02 Thread Nick Lazar
Do you have an absolute path to the style sheet in the header? i.e http://your-domain.com/css/stylesheet.css" type="text/css" media="screen" />I think you'll find it will work if you do this. It's also a good idea to include the absolute URL for any images as wellRegards,Nick.On 3 Jul 2006, at 09:39, Bojana Lalic wrote:Hi all I am building a newsletter for the email. I used css initially but then the client complained that html wasn’t displaying the content as it should be. Instead of displaying two columns it only displays one and also strips out all the css. I have now started modifying the template and plan to use a table (the client doesn’t care) and a lot of inline styles. So far, I have included a table, however, when the newsletter is sent in an email the table doesn’t seem to preserve the styling any more. It looks perfect in the browser but not in the email. Is email stripping out the css out of tables a known problem? Any tips regarding the use of css and tables in emails would be greatly appreciated. Regards Bojana Lalic  Global Summit 2006: Technology Connected Futures -- 17-19 October, Sydney, Australia. Visit our website http://globalsummit.educationau.edu.au for further details. IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party.This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise.It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects.education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email.**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list & getting help** nick lazar8bits Mediahttp://8bits.com.auph: 07 5492 4713mob: 0423 023 613skype: nick_lemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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