Re: tape changes

2001-06-04 Thread Chris Benson

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 08:04:46PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> 
> umm .. 
> 
> so .. you people with boxen in various places .. quick show of hands:
> 
> is 15 quid a shot
> cheap [  ]
> normal[  ]
> expensive [  ]
> 
> for lobbing a dat tape into a box and slinging in a new one?

That seemed the going rate for the dirt-cheap boxhosters I looked at.

OTOH It makes Nildram's gbp2000 p.a. including 15mins of technician/day to
do whatever you need seem very good value.

This is the difference between a company looking at every person
as a cost centre who has to earn their keep (by screwing the customer
as often and as deeply as possible) and someone looking to provide a
service by offering the customer what they need.

(I also liked that boxen at Nildram were only a link or two from LYNX
while a couple of the large co-locators I considered were 10 hops inside 
BT's tangled web away).
-- 
Chris Benson
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Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread David Cantrell

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:31:39PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:

> > Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
> > Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
> > that?)
> 
> It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
> a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

True, cos that would tend to unsettle your troops.  However, as a post
facto rationalisation, it's great.  Look at how well off you are under
your Roman overlords!  Your kings no longer drink your blood!

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Re: tape changes

2001-06-04 Thread Roger Burton West

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 08:04:46PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:

>is 15 quid a shot
>cheap  [  ]
>normal [  ]
>expensive  [  ]
>for lobbing a dat tape into a box and slinging in a new one?

It's not Telehouse prices, but it sounds expensive to me.

R



No Subject

2001-06-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe

Oh my word, why *is* Nathan Barley on 18:23 from Cannon Street?

/J\




tape changes

2001-06-04 Thread Robin Szemeti


umm .. 

so .. you people with boxen in various places .. quick show of hands:

is 15 quid a shot
cheap   [  ]
normal  [  ]
expensive   [  ]

for lobbing a dat tape into a box and slinging in a new one?

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Real Solutions For A Virtual World 



Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Wistow

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Downside is that it is not all that large, and gets horribly crowded on a
> summers evening.
> Lots of students and workers from nearby Guys.
> The tiny bar serving areas get chock-a-block.
> Also, IMHO, to beer is not kept that well, and I've never had a good pint
> there.

I'm going to have to agree with. Never really liked that pub and I
*REALLY* don't like drinking with Medics. And I live with and hang
around with Guy's [0] medics.

In that area though there's Davey's Pot house under the bridge which
serves ale in pewter mugs, port in pitchers, has sawdust on the floors,
no stairs, is quiet and has nice food and also a there's pub in the
market which I can't remember the name of but is quiet nice when it
iusn't heaving.

Simon

[0] Technically Guy's, Kings and St Thomas'. 


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Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Cozens

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:38:44AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson.

On this list, anything is possible.

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Re: Hang the Java programmers

2001-06-04 Thread AEF


 No, Java programmers are not hanged, they are burned at the stake.

 Tony




Re: Hang the Java programmers

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Fowler

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jonathan Peterson wrote:

> But then I'm not a real programmer.

You eat quiche?

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Hang the Java programmers

2001-06-04 Thread Jonathan Peterson



While unwillingly attempting to educate myself in the dark arts of Java, I 
came across this in a bit of (official Sun) documentation:

"Passivation is the opposite of activation. "

Only a Java programmer could be that f**cking bloody minded, pig ignorant, 
or both. Amusingly, ejbPassivate is a method of entity beans, which look 
suspiciously like on of the most stupid things I've ever come across. But 
then I'm not a real programmer.



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Re: [PUB] Possible candidate

2001-06-04 Thread john . hearns

Robert Thompson wrote:

>
> There's The George and Dragon just south of London Bridge. Easily walkable
> from LB station or even the City (I used to go there a lot).
>
> Unfortunately I haven't been there for a while, but hopefully it's still as
> good as I remember.
>

Sorry to speak up against the George.

It does have a lot of history, and is well worth a visit of a Saturday
afternoon.
Last coaching inn left from a street once full of them, Dickens drank there
etc.
It is also the only pub run by the National Trust.

Downside is that it is not all that large, and gets horribly crowded on a
summers evening.
Lots of students and workers from nearby Guys.
The tiny bar serving areas get chock-a-block.
Also, IMHO, to beer is not kept that well, and I've never had a good pint
there.

On the accessibility front, it is not that good.
The ladies loo is on the same level, but there are steps and uneven floors
everywhere.
The gents loo is in a  modern block out in the courtyard.





Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Jonathan Peterson

At 14:31 04/06/01 +, you wrote:
> > Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
> > Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
> > that?)
>
>It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
>a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

Sure you do. That way everyone thinks they are barbarians, and they don't 
mind you invading them and civilising them. As it happens the Celts were 
barbarians*, and the Romans did bring civilisation to them (insert relevant 
Life of Brian sketch).

You also spread rumours of there being lots of gold and "so many pearls 
they lie uncollected on the beaches". Works like a charm.


*This is not a value judgement so just don't start.


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Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Batistoni

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:31:39PM +, Redvers Davies wrote:
> > Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
> > Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
> > that?)
> 
> It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
> a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.

Well why not? It allows you to claim a moral reason for conquering them in the first 
place (which is as
necessary for keeping morale and a sense of purpose among your own people as anything 
else), and quite
possibly has longer-term military benefits, as in "The Celts were a bunch of mad, 
blood-drinking nutters, 
But we conquered them anyway, so why don't you open your doors and play nicely, and we 
won't have to
unleash our fearsome military power upon you".

For some reason, the mental image of a horde of wild Celts quaffing blood keeps mixing 
in my head with that
of a bunch of perl programmers in a cellar bar, quaffing TVRs...

Must be the full moon :)

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Re: TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Leon Brocard

Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:

> Cool. When are you doing that? Sunday?



Leon
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Re: TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Wistow

Cross David - dcross wrote:

> Cost me £660, but I notice that this morning Ebookers are showing only £1200
> seats left on those flights :(

Eeeek. Must. book. Flight.


> p.s. Oh, and I'm staying in the East Tower of the Sheraton.

Moi aussi I think.

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Re: crazy golf

2001-06-04 Thread Redvers Davies

> Assuming you're not a Masai tribesperson. And assuming that the
> Romans weren't lying about the Celts (Though why would they want to do
> that?)

It would seem to me to be counter-productive.  If you want to conquer
a country you don't spread rumours that they drink their victims blood.




Re: TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Simon Wistow

Leon Brocard wrote:

> Hey, groovy, you can join Simon and me on a drive down to crazy
> Mexico. We'll pick up beer, chicks and crazy Mexican guitar-playing
> people. Just remember to bring a stake just in case we happen to bump
> into a vampire-filled bar...

or a handy vampire slayer.



RE: TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TPC Travel

> Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:
> 
> > I booked my TPC flights yesterday. If anyone fancies joining me, the
> > flight details are:
> 
> Hey, groovy, you can join Simon and me on a drive down to crazy
> Mexico. We'll pick up beer, chicks and crazy Mexican guitar-playing
> people. Just remember to bring a stake just in case we happen to bump
> into a vampire-filled bar...

Cool. When are you doing that? Sunday?

Dave...

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Re: TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Leon Brocard

Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:

> I booked my TPC flights yesterday. If anyone fancies joining me, the
> flight details are:

Hey, groovy, you can join Simon and me on a drive down to crazy
Mexico. We'll pick up beer, chicks and crazy Mexican guitar-playing
people. Just remember to bring a stake just in case we happen to bump
into a vampire-filled bar...

Leon
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TPC Travel

2001-06-04 Thread Cross David - dcross

I booked my TPC flights yesterday. If anyone fancies joining me, the flight
details are:

21st Jul BA 2275 LGW 11:15 -> SAN 14:20
28th Jul BA 2274 SAN 16:40 -> LGW 11:00 (+1)

Cost me £660, but I notice that this morning Ebookers are showing only £1200
seats left on those flights :(

Dave...

p.s. Oh, and I'm staying in the East Tower of the Sheraton.

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Re: [OT] BUFFY No spoilers

2001-06-04 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:34:10AM +0100, Dean wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:29:14AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > ah well, we can probably also expect "The Rock" from WWF
> > to show up and lay the smack down on some vamps, also 
> > expect to here plans for a BtVS movie as well, so they
> > can get use out of the sets one more time.
> 
> The movie has been in the planning for a while now, the main bad guy has
> been rumoured to be the "Ultimate Evil" from the Buffy Xmas episode where
> Angels tries to kill himself (in series three.)

Is "Ultimate Evil" related to "Evil Dave"?  If so, will he discuss the
project with us?

-Dom

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Re: [OT] BUFFY No spoilers

2001-06-04 Thread Dean

On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 09:29:14AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> ah well, we can probably also expect "The Rock" from WWF
> to show up and lay the smack down on some vamps, also 
> expect to here plans for a BtVS movie as well, so they
> can get use out of the sets one more time.

The movie has been in the planning for a while now, the main bad guy has
been rumoured to be the "Ultimate Evil" from the Buffy Xmas episode where
Angels tries to kill himself (in series three.)

Dean
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Re: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAS T NIGHT

2001-06-04 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:43 AM
> 
> [there are actually no spoliers left in this post so I'm removing the
> spoiler space]
> 
> > i'm a little worried that the next season will suck.
> > lets wait and see if the warning signs are there, more
> > weird settings i.e. they all get sucked into the
> > movie casablanca and the episode is entirely in black
> > and white, guest appearances from other shows/from
> > major celebrities.
> 
> Apparently they're planning a musical episode[1]
> 

ah well, we can probably also expect "The Rock" from WWF
to show up and lay the smack down on some vamps, also 
expect to here plans for a BtVS movie as well, so they
can get use out of the sets one more time.

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RE: BUFFY - SPOILERS , DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN SKY 1 LAST NIGHT

2001-06-04 Thread Cross David - dcross

From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:43 AM

[there are actually no spoliers left in this post so I'm removing the
spoiler space]

> i'm a little worried that the next season will suck.
> lets wait and see if the warning signs are there, more
> weird settings i.e. they all get sucked into the
> movie casablanca and the episode is entirely in black
> and white, guest appearances from other shows/from
> major celebrities.

Apparently they're planning a musical episode[1]

Dave...

[1] This is not a joke!

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