Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)
Dave Cross wrote: The language spoken by the droogs in 'A Clockwork Orange'. Isn't it a pidgin mix of Russian and English?
Speaking Welsh (Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions))
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 11:47:44AM +, Redvers Davies wrote: And possibly some welsh... The welsh word "drwg" (pronounced the english way is "droog") and means 'Bad, naughty, evil, wicked' etc. Anthony Burgess spoke fluent Welsh (his first wife was Welsh), so I'd have thought that was quite likely. .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:47:52AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some stuff into a database to use LRP. [snip interesting discussion] Can we see the result? I'm fascinated... .robin. -- "You are bound to be in a state of mental unrest, even turmoil. And of course there can be no inner peace: be proud of it!"
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
Robin Houston wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:47:52AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some stuff into a database to use LRP. Can we see the result? I'm fascinated... Well, you asked for it. Here it is, cleaned up just a little bit (mostly line length reformatting -- hopefully Outlook doesn't break it that way) and with username and password XXX'd out. Enjoy! (I note while looking at it that it isn't a rewrite of the other script as I had imagined it to be -- it only selects instead of inserting. But the DBI code is roughly the same.) (I had to "use DBI" ahead of LRP because "ute DBI" failed due to the -I ending; and the "doneq" at the end is the English word "done" with a random letter to mask the -e ending.) Cheers, Philip #!/vmp/app/ActivePerl-5.6/bin/perl -w use DBI; use Lingua::Romana::Perligata; ute mysql intra DBD. Looking tum up inquementum tum biguttam tum novumversum oraculo scribe. meo blanko lacunam da. praecide blanko. wordere sic coniungementum blankum tum applicamentum sic indementum hoc cis haec cis meo dsno da wordementum LXVIII tum LXVI tum LXXIII tum LVIII tum CIX tum CXXI tum CXV tum CXIII tum CVIII tum LVIII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum XCVII tum XCVIII tum XCVII tum CXV tum CI tum LXI tum CX tum CI tum CXIX tum CXVI tum CXI tum CX tum LIX tum CIV tum CXI tum CXV tum CXVI tum LXI tum CII tum CV tum XCIX tum CXVII tum CXV tum XLVI tum CII tum CXIV tum CXI tum CIII tum CXV tum CXII tum XCVII tum XCIX tum CI tum XLVI tum CX tum CI tum CXVI. meo usernameo da wordementum XXX tum XXX tum XXX. meo passwordo da wordementum XXX tum XXX tum XXX. meo attributibus. RaiseError inquemento attributuum da unum. AutoCommit inquemento attributuum da unum. meo classo da wordementum LXVIII tum LXVI tum LXXIII. meo dbho da classum tum dsnum tum usernameum tum passwordum tum ad attributibus connectementum intra DBI morive errstrum intra DBI. oraculo scribe Selecting inquementum tum novumversum. meo selecto da wordementum LXXXIII tum LXIX tum LXXVI tum LXIX tum LXVII tum LXXXIV tum XXXII tum CV tum C tum XLIV tum XXXII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum CXVII tum CIX tum XLIV tum XXXII tum XCVII tum CX tum CXXII tum XCVII tum CIV tum CVIII tum XLIV tum XXXII tum CI tum CXV tum CXV tum CI tum CXIV tum XXXII tum LXX tum LXXXII tum LXXIX tum LXXVII tum XXXII tum CI tum CXV tum CXV tum CI tum CX tum XXXII tum LXXXVII tum LXXII tum LXIX tum LXXXII tum LXIX tum XXXII tum C tum XCVII tum CXVI tum CXVII tum CIX tum XXXII tum LXI tum XXXII tum LXIII. meo todayo da wordementum L tum XLVIII tum XLVIII tum XLVIII tum XLV tum XLIX tum L tum XLV tum XLVIII tum LVI. meo stho da selectum prepareementum apud dbhum. todayum executee apud sthum. meo rowo da fetchementum apud sthum. nisi non confirmamentum rowum fac sic oraculo scribe nullimum rowum arcessementorum tum biguttam tum lacunam tum tertium rowum arcessementorum tum novumversum. cis finishe apud sthum. disconnecte apud dbhum. oraculo scribe doneq inquementum tum novumversum.
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 02:29:38PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
How would the user get round this? I mean sure they could if they had
access to the source code but ...
I'm writing something at the moment that's got lots of
sub do_summat
{
my ($self, $userid, $arg1, $arg2) = @_;
return access_denied('do_summat') unless (grep {/^$userid$/}
$self-acl-{do_summat});
}
so this was just a way of automating that.
I think I misunderstood you before. I thought you were trying
to restrict what could be done by code which uses your module.
Obviously that's not what you're doing; because in the code
above, anyone could pass in any userid (not necessarily their own).
OTOH, if your program is running locally then it can't do
anything that the user couldn't do directly anyway (unless
it's SUID, which is too frightening to contemplate). So
presumably it's some sort of network-available service.
I think I see where you're coming from now. Sorry for the
confusion.
.robin.
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Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
Mark Fowler wrote: May I suggest that we die at this point? And throw a Error::AccessDenyed object or something? Dieing's probably a bad idea. The idea was for it to set an error stack so that even if you were using this module you would do stuff like my $do = new DO; $do-something(); warn ACL::last_error()."\n" if ACL::error(); which would print out something like "Access to DO::something denied for user x";
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Jan 15, 1:50pm, Simon Wistow wrote: Something like that, probably called it Symbol::ACL or summat. I'll stick it in my todo list right after Flash stuff, Mail::Hotmail, Net::IP2LL, Fuky widget set thingy, WMLScript compiler in Perl and learning Japanese. I started learning Japanese when I joined Canon as they were offering free lessons to all research staff. I stopped soon after. philosophical Success is (partly) about being able to differentiate between the things you're good at and the things that you'll never be good at. Spend time on the former and don't waste time getting nowhere with the latter. /philosophical In my case, Japanese was very much the latter. I have deep respect for anyone who can master it. A -- Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signature regenerating. Please remain seated. [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a good time: http://www.kfs.org/~abw/
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
* Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Jan 15, 1:50pm, Simon Wistow wrote: Something like that, probably called it Symbol::ACL or summat. I'll stick it in my todo list right after Flash stuff, Mail::Hotmail, Net::IP2LL, Fuky widget set thingy, WMLScript compiler in Perl and learning Japanese. I started learning Japanese when I joined Canon as they were offering free lessons to all research staff. I stopped soon after. I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence it was a good way to meet a brand new batch of girls. I stopped soon after. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
RE: Access Control Lists and Functions
In my case, Japanese was very much the latter. I have deep respect for anyone who can master it. The only Japanese I know: "Anata no zubon wa taihen kirena desu!" Not many applications. -- matt "What? I don't speak your crazy moon-language."
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
* Matthew Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In my case, Japanese was very much the latter. I have deep respect for anyone who can master it. The only Japanese I know: "Anata no zubon wa taihen kirena desu!" the only japanese i know is - hi, i don't think i've spoke to you before, i'm greg X why thats a lovely name X oh really, what do you think of this japanese class X yes i have exactly the same opinion as you X etc -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
Marcel Grunauer sent the following bits through the ether: Do it like Memoize.pm (i.e., generalize the wrapper mechanism or just nick ... http://search.cpan.org/doc/JDPORTER/Hook-WrapSub-0.03/lib/Hook/WrapSub.pm Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/ ... All new improved Brocard, now with Template Toolkit!
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 05:17:08PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: Sounds like the business. There have been quite a number of Perl modules lately that are more about the syntax and the way the language is being used than for any specific tasks, such as: Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) I don't know when the module was actually released onto CPAN, but I saw it for the first time at the weekend. It is ... staggering ... Anyone written any programs using it? .robin. -- "do not assume that you are in control of your own actions, but take responsibility for them anyway."
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:53:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence it was a good way to meet a brand new batch of girls. I stopped soon after. Hey ... I never got opportunities like that! Was this only out in strange places? Or just after/before my time? Tony -- - Tony Bowden | Belfast, NI | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.tmtm.com | www.blackstar.co.uk paradox contrast variety change history repeats but it's never the same -
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:53:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence it was a good way to meet a brand new batch of girls. I stopped soon after. Hey ... I never got opportunities like that! well you had to a particular ``sensitive'' and ``caring'' individual, able to deal with the harsh realities of the ``enforced prejudices'' Was this only out in strange places? Ballymena is not a strange place! But i think it was across N.I. even the more backward places such as Cullybacy, Carnlough and of course Belfast Or just after/before my time? way after your time Tony, way way way after --- just the hip young things like me got this sort of thing (this is my attempt to hang on the every slipping idea that i am still young) anyway back to watching Detroit Rock City Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Access Control Lists and Functions
Dieing's probably a bad idea. The idea was for it to set an error stack
so that even if you were using this module you would do stuff like
my $do = new DO;
$do-something();
warn ACL::last_error()."\n" if ACL::error();
which would print out something like "Access to DO::something denied for
user x";
Why can't you do this with the standard die semantics?
eval
{
my $do = new DO;
$do-something();
}
if ($@)
{
warn $@;
}
(will work if both $@ is a string or a object that is overriden)
Of course if you were using Error.pm you could even use 'try' and 'catch'
as syntatic suger. See the Error perldoc.
Later.
Mark.
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Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:51:38PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote: On Jan 15, 4:24pm, Robin Houston wrote: Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) Conway-san, your programming challenge for this week is: Lingua::Nihon::Perldes (but with an English - Japanese translation interface for those of us who didn't last out the Japanese classes) does lingua::nadsat exist yet? or anything along those lines? Never mind all that. Does anyone speak enough (I think) Klingon to understand what the status of the Lingua::tlhIngan::yIghun module is (see http://yetanother.org/damian/projects.html)??? dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ I drink to my coming cirrhosis... - Charles Aznavour
