RE: white wine
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples back in November does not seem to be available over here at all. Why ship the good stuff to the ignorant Brits when they can keep it for themselves? Sounds like pretty good thinking to me. Which reminds me - when the Brits acquired a taste for lager rather than ale, why did we start drinking lager from every country in Europe except Germany, who are the only ones to actually make drinkable stuff?
Re: white wine
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:22:27AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples back in November does not seem to be available over here at all. Why ship the good stuff to the ignorant Brits when they can keep it for themselves? Sounds like pretty good thinking to me. Which reminds me - when the Brits acquired a taste for lager rather than ale, why did we start drinking lager from every country in Europe except Germany, who are the only ones to actually make drinkable stuff? Because we didn't acquire a taste for lager but rather had it shoved down our throats by marketroids who saw an opportunity to mass-produce fizzy crap instead of brewing properly. Anyway, Shurely you're forgetting about the Netherlands, Belgium and the Czech Republic, all of whom manufacture some fine lagers. -- David Cantrell | Doesn't Do Lager | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. PGP signature
Re: white wine
At 00:07 27/03/2001, you wrote: * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ooh good. I got one of them for Christmas and still haven't gotten around to drinking it. Not sure I'll like it though, because Italian reds tend to be very thin, and I like chewy wines. We'll see. I don't want to sound like a twat, but it may be too late already so here goes, one of the things i hate about going out to a italian restaurant is the wine. Nonsense. You just order the most expensive Barolo on the wine list. Dave... [Who doesn't understand this fascination with white wine - nasty stuff] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mag-sol.com Data Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross/
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From: "Dave Cross" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't want to sound like a twat, but it may be too late already so here goes, one of the things i hate about going out to a italian restaurant is the wine. Nonsense. You just order the most expensive Barolo on the wine list. homer mmm Barolo /homer Dave... [Who doesn't understand this fascination with white wine - nasty stuff] I'm with you there... /Robert
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:09:21PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: /me only drinks belgian beers/lagers.. or ales/bitter esp not any of that american crap. Ahem. There are some fine american beers. You probably just don't see them over there (lord knows they're hard enough to find here...) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ tastes filling! less great! - ignatz in #perl
Re: white wine
DavidC: According to the critics, it is 'acceptable if not great' but fuck it, *I* liked it. Remember a lot of wine suffers from the holiday effect, and doesn't seem quite as nice on a wet blustery Thursday night. Lachryma Christi del Vesuvio, in case anyone is interested. Ah, I have heard of it (my Italian knowledge is very limited), so I guess it wouldn't be too hard to come by. Of course, the Internet is crap for this sort of thing. RobinS: Also (being half Hungarian) am rather fond of Tokai .. 5 Putonyos of course. Quite a different taste to most other things. I haven't seen it mentioned, but a few weeks ago Tokai was in danger because of flooding - it was only an inch or two away from flooding the entire cellars :( Anyone know a decent London win merchant who stocks a good range of German or Austrian wines. Not just the desert wines, but the lighter ones too. I've only ever seen eiswine for sale in a small number of restaurants, usually at 10UKPS / glass + There's one that advertises in Wine magazine as a German specialist. I remember when I was hunting down mythical German Reds (in the end I went to Germany and bought some myself). Wine magazine is probably a good place to find Italian specialists as well. You can always hide it in a brown paper bag ;) c. (too young to really believe he's having this conversation)
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 12:09:21PM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: DavidC: According to the critics, it is 'acceptable if not great' but fuck it, *I* liked it. Remember a lot of wine suffers from the holiday effect, and doesn't seem quite as nice on a wet blustery Thursday night. Ah no, the few bottles I did bring back with me were just as good as I remember. Particularly on a wet blustery Thursday night in Cornwall just before christmas, IIRC. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: white wine
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:31:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: then we get on to the 'wine so sweet you could stand a spoon up in it'. I am a complete sucker for anything from Sauternes, Lupiac, Pauliac, Graves, Monbazilac etc. and had a very nice Trochenbeerenauslese a You would enjoy the _Monsieur Pamplemousse_ detective series then. Paul
Re: white wine
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: Just to get us back on topic I just had to buy a bottle of Pendulum Zinfandel at the weekend - its Italian and comes in a shiny gold bottle ... and despite appearances its actually a fairly good red wine. /J\
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:34:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: I just had to buy a bottle of Pendulum Zinfandel at the weekend - its Italian and comes in a shiny gold bottle ... and despite appearances its actually a fairly good red wine. Ooh good. I got one of them for Christmas and still haven't gotten around to drinking it. Not sure I'll like it though, because Italian reds tend to be very thin, and I like chewy wines. We'll see. -- Disillusion? I can make it for you at home!... Besides, why else did you come to the City of Expiring Dreams (apologies to Matthew Arnold)? -- Katherine Kaye, on Oxford.
Re: white wine
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 12:07:30AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: I don't want to sound like a twat, but it may be too late already so here goes, one of the things i hate about going out to a italian restaurant is the wine. twat me too /twat but then I don't like the wine in many other restaurants either. Beer all the way for me. Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples back in November does not seem to be available over here at all. I keep meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least point me at a merchant over here who can. According to the critics, it is 'acceptable if not great' but fuck it, *I* liked it. Lachryma Christi del Vesuvio, in case anyone is interested. The red is an excellent accompaniment to spicy pizzas, and the white is fooking great for quaffing during a day lazing in the sun chugging around Sicily's offshore islands in a boat. I bought a mixed case before we headed south from Naples, brought a few bottles back with me but have finished them all now. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: white wine
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples back in November does not seem to be available over here at all. Why ship the good stuff to the ignorant Brits when they can keep it for themselves? Sounds like pretty good thinking to me. -- teco /dev/audio - Ignatios Souvatzis PGP signature
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, you wrote: * Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: know what is. ughh ,,, chardonay .. toilet water :) it all depends, the one i recommeded has body I am of cours always ready to be educated .. by practical demonstration ;) then we get on to the 'wine so sweet you could stand a spoon up in it'. I well here we go into the realms of hungarian desert wine, now i am going to try this one phonetically (i.e. i have no chance at getting the spelling right), anyway its called ... too-kai its measured with a number and thats the number of shovels of over ripe grapes in each barrel, the higher the number the sweeter the wine Also (being half Hungarian) am rather fond of Tokai .. 5 Putonyos of course. Quite a different taste to most other things. ah, this is one of the cases where one should read then reply, rather than reply as one reads ooh I dunno .. so much more fun this way :) his use of 5 is the shovels i believe it is indeed .. My Father who has knowledge of such things tells me 5 'large wickerwork baskets' of over ripe grapes .. but baskets, shovels .. the principles the same. Bigger the number, sweeter (and more honey coloured) the wine. As far as I know it only gos up to 5 .. but if anyone has a 6, I'll help them test it. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: white wine
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least point me at a merchant over here who can. Alternatively, if TPC5 is held in Monterey again you can partake of the local plethora of vineyards in the area. They do very enjoyable and cheap, often free, tastings all the way down the peninsula and you could return to the UK with some excellent Syrahs and Merlots (my personal faves) at wholesale prices. That is of course if you don't pass out with a blissful expression in some field somewhere... Paul, central coast local
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 06:17:29PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: meaning to ring the vinyard to see if they can send me a case, or at least point me at a merchant over here who can. Alternatively, if TPC5 is held in Monterey again you can partake of the local plethora of vineyards in the area. On the other hand, since it's going to be in San Diego, maybe not... dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a red headed girl" - James Adie
Re: white wine
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: it is indeed .. My Father who has knowledge of such things tells me 5 'large wickerwork baskets' of over ripe grapes .. but baskets, shovels .. the principles the same. Bigger the number, sweeter (and more honey coloured) the wine. As far as I know it only gos up to 5 .. but if anyone has a 6, I'll help them test it. there is a large agricultural show every year in edinburgh, called - the royal highland show (IIRC), it was here that a rather nice wine promooter took me on ... gusto the Tokai trail ! /gusto it was basically going from 3 upwards to 6,7,+ (can't quite remember) and its quite a journey -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: white wine
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, you wrote: Just to get us back on topic I heartilly recommend Terrazaz Chardonnay, its very nice for a chardonnay - which reminds me of one of the most pretentious things i ever heard said ( i can't remember if it was on tv, radio or in the flesh, but i have a horrible feeling it was in the flesh ) When asked what wine someone wanted, they replied `ABC'. When the recipient of this response said, quite naturally - `What?', he first person replied - `Anything But Chardonnay'. Now if this isn't justification to beat someone to death with the arm you've just ripped out of their socket i don't know what is. ughh ,,, chardonay .. toilet water :) I my favourites 'light' wines at the moment are the Mosel Valley, (Trauben Traubach and Erden in particular) ... much under rated and often lumped together with some very poor wines, but actually quite good, if you like that sort of thing. then we get on to the 'wine so sweet you could stand a spoon up in it'. I am a complete sucker for anything from Sauternes, Lupiac, Pauliac, Graves, Monbazilac etc. and had a very nice Trochenbeerenauslese a month or so ago that I reckon was just s good (and it should have been too at that price) Sadly you rarely see that at a price that doesn't make you cringe... Also (being half Hungarian) am rather fond of Tokai .. 5 Putonyos of course. Quite a different taste to most other things. -- Robin Szemeti The box said requires windows 95 or better So I installed Linux!
